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    Quote Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
    The beginning of this video is very graphic and shows the Colonels last moments.
    I can't look at it - even though they gleefully show it on the MSM. Such unworthy shocking violence. NWO at its most blatant. Brutality of 'kick em when they're down' cowardice makes my stomach turn.

    LS, you earlier posted something like 'Oh no. Pray it isn't true' when the first reports came in. I agreed then. I agree now that citizens of the true civilized world mourn for a nation that had so much going for it and now face the terror of the NWO.


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    BTW, EXCELLENT thread LS!!
    One of your finest..
    Thanks nugget, much appreciated.

    Heartily agree. Great post, LS! Telling it like it really is behooves you. As usual.

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    Why do they say "odd"?

    http://www.observer.ug/index.php?opt...news&Itemid=59

    There's nothing odd about it...it means he was a normal healthy guy who loved his mom and wanted to make things better for people who were being oppressed. And he's got a great sense of humour....i think he's Irish (sorry Paul, hehe)

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    Women are never locked in their homes while their husbands, fathers and brothers go to work. Gaddafi forbade restricting women’s mobility.

    Women have full rights to drive cars (unlike their sisters in Saudi Arabia). Women also keep their passports. In several Arab countries, a woman’s husband holds her passport so she cannot travel outside of the country without his permission.

    No person can force a Libyan woman to marry any man.

    The Imams are expected to protect the woman from abuse by relatives.

    A Libyan woman can leave a marriage any time she chooses.

    If a woman enters a marriage with her own assets and the marriage ends, her husband cannot touch her assets. The same is true of the man’s assets. <<---- this is important because our own laws are crippling us.
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    Hi Lord Sid,

    So sorry for you, Gaddafi's people, his family, Africa, the ones killed along side of him and for all people -for his consciousness brought much to all of the Nations.

    Someone mentioned he was killed on another thread under bearing the universal sign of the white flag..... we have forgotten. This truly a Red Flag moment.

    Quote Posted by astrid (here)
    The way he was killed and the way they have dealt with his body, if half of what was published was true,
    his spirit is very likely still very much with us.
    And if so, i can't image he is going to behave.
    Spirits often attach themselves to their killers, and they can cause havoc.
    Somehow i can't see him going home just yet........

    BTW, EXCELLENT thread LS!!
    One of your finest..
    For one who did so much for his people and being an example for all Nations
    his death although a travesty and of course a loss of Precious Human Life
    he will be stronger in spirit.....

    The day/night before his death I felt/sensed a strong shift in the Force

    Nora

    we are all related

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    Thanks for this, LS. Bless.

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    Default Re: Farewell Colonel, many of us will miss you.

    From the link our friend with all the numbers posted.

    Gaddafi’s odd love affair with women

    ‘I promised my mother to improve the situation of women in Libya…’

    The world might remember him as a despot, dictator and murderer, but at least one virtue will stick out: that the slain Libyan leader, Colonel Muammar Gaddafi, took good care of women. Not only did he support them, he also believed in their abilities and emancipation, moreover in a society where being a woman is normally associated with getting the back seat.

    Wearing heavy make-up and military fatigues, Gaddafi’s female bodyguards, better known as the Amazonian Guard, were synonymous with his presence. He paraded them as a symbol of his belief in women’s emancipation and their role in the defence of their country. He also had a team of female nurses led by his long-time Ukrainian nurse, Galyna Kolotnytska.

    Emancipation

    Central to Gaddafi’s 1969 revolution was the empowerment of women. His new regime made efforts to advance female emancipation. The new government encouraged women to participate in Libya’s political life and several cabinet posts were allocated to them. Women were also able to form associations.

    Bouseyfi Kulthum, Libya’s first female pilot, told BBC News that Gaddafi changed the social taboo that closed the space for women.
    Employment

    During Gaddafi’s reign, women also made great strides in employment, with improved access to education and acceptance of female paid employment. In 1970, the government passed a series of laws regulating female employment, including equal pay for equal work.

    By 2006, employment for Libyan women was estimated at 27%, a relatively high percentage for an Arab nation. During Gaddafi’s reign, working mothers enjoyed a range of benefits designed to encourage them to continue working even after marriage and childbirth, including cash bonuses for the first child and free day care centres. A woman could retire at the age of 55, and she was entitled to a pension.
    Education

    During the last decade of King Idris’ rule, females enrolled in primary education were only between 11-19%. However, in 1969, education was made a right. And by 1990, the figure stood at 48%. Women’s enrollment in higher education stood at 8% in 1966, but reached 43% by 1996, equal to that of males.
    Marriage

    In Gaddafi’s era, child marriages were banned and the minimum legal age to marry placed at 18. Since 1973, Libyan women have had equal rights in obtaining a divorce. Gaddafi also passed gender-friendly women’s laws on marriage and divorce.

    Amazonian guards

    “I love a girl in uniform,” the flamboyant colonel once said. His 40 lip-sticked, uniformed girls were charged with his security.

    He made sure the good-looking, well-trained soldiers wore make-up, thick lipstick, painted their nails, wore designer sunglasses and high heels, alongside their military camouflage, so that they performed this role without losing their femininity. Gaddafi pampered them, making them a media attraction wherever he travelled.
    Military academy

    Gaddafi established the Tripoli Women’s Military Academy in 1979 to advance women’s emancipation. The Amazonian Guard passed through this academy.

    “I promised my mother to improve the situation of women in Libya,” he reportedly said at the time. His mother, a Bedouin tribeswoman born when Libya was an Italian colony, was illiterate.

    “Without the leader, women in Libya would be nothing,” Fatia, a 27-year-old bodyguard trainee in Tripoli, once told a researcher.
    “He gave us life. I am ready to die for him. He is a father, a brother and a friend to whom you can confide. You have no idea how humble he is.”
    Gaddafi’s love affair with women stretched beyond Libya’s borders.
    Condoleezza Rice

    Rebels ransacking his palace found an odd photo album consisting of page after page of snapshots of the former US Secretary of State, Condoleezza Rice. Gaddafi had expressed his affinity for Rice before:

    “I ad-mire and am very proud of the way she leans back and gives orders to the Arab leaders... Leezza, Leezza, Leezza... I love her very much,” he once told Al Jazeera in an interview in 2007. In Uganda, he was known to be a very good friend of the Toro Queen Mother, Best Kemigisha.
    Bunga Bunga fan

    But Gaddafi also had his naughty side. He enjoyed a level of chumminess with Italian Prime Minister, Silvio Berlusconi. In November 2010, he flew several Italian women to Libya, intending to pair them off with Libyan bachelors. He also reportedly participated in Berlusconi’s Bunga Bunga (swimming costume) parties.

    Facts on women in Libya
    Women are never locked in their homes while their husbands, fathers and brothers go to work. Gaddafi forbade restricting women’s mobility.
    Women have full rights to drive cars (unlike their sisters in Saudi Arabia). Women also keep their passports. In several Arab countries, a woman’s husband holds her passport so she cannot travel outside of the country without his permission.
    No person can force a Libyan woman to marry any man.
    The Imams are expected to protect the woman from abuse by relatives.
    A Libyan woman can leave a marriage any time she chooses.
    If a woman enters a marriage with her own assets and the marriage ends, her husband cannot touch her assets. The same is true of the man’s assets.

    http://www.observer.ug/index.php?opt...news&Itemid=59

    Interesting article from the lamestream media.

    Some people are saying that the Colonel is still alive and that the poor sod that was murdered was a double.
    http://www.mathaba.net/news/?x=629132?rss
    I have commented and left a link to this thread there.
    I hope there is truth in this, even whilst not feeling good that an innocent man may have been killed by barbarians.
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    Why Libya Was Attacked

    10-27-11

    Obama's March 28, 2011 address at the National Defense University was true to form. It reeked of duplicity, hypocrisy, and ball-faced lies, saying:

    "For generations, the United States of America has played a unique role as an anchor of global security and as an advocate for human freedom."

    "....(W)e are reluctant to use force to solve the world's many challenges."

    "But when our interests and values are at stake, we have a responsibility to act. That's what happened in Libya...."

    For decades, Libya was "ruled by a tyrant....He has denied his people freedom, exploited their wealth, murdered opponents at home and abroad, and terrorized people around the world - including Americans who were killed by Libyan agents."

    Substitute Washington for Libya and he got it right. America is a rogue terror state, a menacing plague on humanity.

    Democratic values, human and civil rights, and rule of law principles are non-starters.

    Only corporate and imperial interests matter, not equity, justice, peace on earth, and government of, by and for the people while respecting the sovereign rights of other nations.

    NATO's war on Libya was planned many months in advance like all wars. Why is most important, or put another way - cui bono?

    Official accounts and media scoundrels never explain. Dozens of previous articles discussed relevant issues and answers, including one summarizing what's most important. More on that below.

    Historical Facts About Libya

    Like most parts of Africa for centuries, European colonial powers ravaged Libya. During the 1911 Turko/Italian war, Libya was invaded and attacked. Twenty years of resistance challenged Italian colonizers.

    From 1911 - 1943, Italy's occupation was brutal. Libyans never forgot. After WW II, America, Britain and France dominated the region. In 1951, they combined three distinct regions into Libya - Cyrenaica in the east, Tripolitania in the west, and Fezzan in the south.

    Britain enthroned King Idriss. He let America, Britain and France retain military bases and pursue corporate interests. America's Wheelus Air Base near Tripoli dominated the Mediterranean Basin. Washington wants one or more super-bases built on Libyan land as launching pads against the region.

    In 1955, Libyan oil was discovered. Three colonial powers controlled it until Gaddafi's bloodless September 1, 1969 coup, ousting King Idris. It was an anti-imperial socialist revolution. Foreign domination ended.

    Gaddafi supported pan-Africanism - a United States of Africa, free from imperial domination. It was a vision shared by Marcus Garvey, Kwame Kkrumah, Sekou Toure, Julius Nyerere, Jomo Kenyatta, William Tubman, Gamal Abd Nasser, and others. More on that below.

    He also wanted Libyans to share in the country's oil wealth, a notion foreign to America and other Western societies.

    Under his 1999 Decision No. 111, all Libyans got free healthcare, education, electricity, water, training, rehabilitation, housing assistance, disability and old-age benefits, interest-free state loans, as well as generous subsidies to study abroad, buy a new car, help couples when they marry, practically free gasoline, and more.

    Literacy under Gaddafi rose from 20 - 80%. Libya's hospitals and private clinics were some of the region's best. Now they're in shambles. Some, in fact, were bombed or damaged in other fighting. NATO lied saying only military targets were attacked.

    NATO's imperial strategy involves targeting civilians and vital infrastructure, including power, communications, medical care facilities, and other essential to life sites.

    Before war began, Libyans had Africa's highest standard of living. According to David Blundy and Andrew Lycett's book titled, "Qaddafi and the Libyan Revolution.http://www.amazon.com/Qaddafi-Libyan-Revolution-David-Blundy/dp/0316100420"

    "The young people are well dressed, well fed and well educated....Every Libyan gets free, and often excellent, education, medical and health services. New colleges and hospitals are impressive by any international standard."

    "All Libyans have a house or a flat, a car, and most have televisions" and other conveniences. "Compared with most citizens of Third World countries, and with many (others), Libyans have it very good indeed," including decent housing or a rent-free apartment.

    Gaddafi's Green Book, in fact, states, "The house is a basic need of both the individual and the family, therefore it should not be owned by others." It also covers other beneficial social policies, saying:

    "Women, like men, are human beings.

    ....(A)ll individuals have a natural right to self-expression by any means....;

    In a socialist society no person may own a private means of transportation for the purpose of renting to others, because this represents controlling the needs of others.

    The democratic system is a cohesive structure whose foundation stones are firmly laid above the other (through People's Conferences and Committees). There is absolutely no conception of democratic society other than this.

    No representation of the people - representation is a falsehood. The existence of parliaments underlies the absence of the people, for democracy can only exist with the presence of the people and not in the presence of representatives of the people."

    Green Book ideology rejects Western-style democracy and predatory capitalism, especially neoliberal exploitation. It's one of many reasons why Gaddafi was ousted.

    He provided impressive social benefits, including free land, equipment, livestock and seeds for agriculture to foster self-sufficient food production. Moreover, all basic food items were subsidized and sold through a network of "people's shops."

    Moreover, since the 1960s, women had the right to vote and participate politically. They can also own and sell property independently of their husbands. Under the December 1969 Constitutional Proclamation Clause 5, they have equal status with men, including for education and employment, even though men play leading roles in society.

    Until Washington and NATO blocked its approval, the UN Human Rights Council Libyan praised Gaddafi in its January 2011 "Report of the Working Group on the Universal Periodic Review: Libya Arab Jamahiriya."

    It said his government protected "not only political rights, but also economic, educational, social and cultural rights." It also lauded his treatment of religious minorities, and "human rights training" of its security forces.

    In eight months, NATO's killing machine destroyed 42 years of achievements, benefitting all Libyans. Why else would overwhelming numbers support him?

    After NATO attacked, hundreds of thousands rallied openly for him. On July 1, 95% of Tripoli's population (over a million strong) expressed support in Green Square.

    Before the war, he felt safe enough to drive unprotected through Tripoli streets. Residents lined up to cheer him. Some despot!

    America and other Western societies should have ones like him. Imperial wars would end. So would homelessness, hunger and human depravation. Instead, "new world order" imperialists want super-wealth and power shared only by their privileged few.

    Libya is one of many targets. Others will follow to extinguish freedom everywhere if they succeed. Universal opposition needs to stop them. Failure can't be tolerated. The alternative is too grim to imagine.

    Why Gaddafi Was Targeted

    Information below was discussed earlier. It bears repeating now. Gaddafi's vision marked him for removal. It was just a matter of when, even though he cooperated with Western powers post-9/11 on matters of intelligence and terrorism.

    Until vilified and targeted, he was welcomed in Western capitals. In 2003, he came in from the cold, became a valued Western ally, and had meetings and discussions with top officials like UK Prime Ministers Tony Blair and Gordon Brown, France's Nicolas Sarkozy, Italy's Silvio Berlusconi, US Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice, and others.

    He also participated in the 2009 G-8 Summit in L-Aquila, Italy as Chairman of the African Union. At the time, he met and shook hands with Obama.

    Moreover, ABC News interviewed him live, and on January 21, 2009, The New York Times published his op-ed headlined, "The One-State Solution" to resolve the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. He called "living under one roof....the only option for a lasting peace."

    On May 16, 2006, Washington restored full diplomatic relations, removing Libya from its state sponsors of terrorism list. At the time, Rice called the move:

    "tangible results that flow from the historic decisions taken by Libya's leadership in 2003 to renounce terrorism and to abandon its weapons of mass destruction programs....Libya is an important model as nations around the world press for changes in behavior by the Iranian and North Korean regimes."

    She also praised Gaddafi's "excellent cooperation" in fighting terrorism. Moreover, he opened Libya's markets to Western interests by arranging deals with Big Oil giants BP, ExxonMobil, Royal Dutch Shell, Occidental, France's Total, Italy's Eni Gas and others. By all appearances, he joined the club, so why turn on him?

    Though on board in some ways, he very much wasn't on others. He supported Palestinian rights, opposed Israel's occupation and Gaza's siege.

    Earlier he backed anti-apartheid struggles in South Africa, as well as others in Northern Ireland, Spain, and elsewhere.

    He had nothing to do with downing Pan Am 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland in 1988. Neither did Abdel Basset Ali al-Megrahi. Scottish judges knew he was innocent but were pressured to convict.

    Gaddafi never admitted fault. He took responsibility solely to have international sanctions removed. To this day, he and al-Megrahi stand falsely accused. Likely CIA /MI6/and/or Mossad involvement is never mentioned.

    America tried and failed numerous times to assassinate him, including Ronald Reagan's 1986 attempt. CIA covert efforts financed opposition groups. In 1981, they helped establish the National Front for the Salvation of Libya (NFSL) and its militant wing called the Libyan National Army based in Egypt near Libya's border.

    Along with US and UK Special Forces, it was directly involved in instigating insurrection last February. It wasn't homegrown. As in Syria, it was externally generated.

    Gaddafi opted out of AFRICOM. It's one of nine global Pentagon commands to control Africa and the Mediterranean Basin, including its strategic energy transit routes and choke points, crucial to keep open for world economies.

    All African countries participate except Sudan, Zimbabwe, Ivory Coast, Eritrea, and Libya until now. He also backed an initiative to create a United States of Africa, whereas Washington wants easily exploitable divisions. More on that below.

    Besides ranked ninth in the world with 42 billion proved barrels of oil reserves (and large amounts of gas), its untapped potential is believed much greater. Moreover, being nearly sulfur-free, it's even more valued for its extremely high quality. At issue isn't access, it's control over who develops, produces and receives it in what amounts.

    In January 2009, Gaddafi wanted to nationalize Libyan oil, but his timetable faced internal resistance. According to Pravda.ru's March 25, 2011 article titled, "Reason for war? Gaddafi wanted to nationalise oil," he considered the option because of low oil prices at the time, saying:

    "The oil-exporting countries should opt for nationalisation because of the rapid fall in oil prices. We must put the issue on the table and discuss it seriously. Oil should be owned by the State at this time, so we could better control prices by the increase or decrease in production."

    In February 2009, he asked for public support to distribute Libya's oil wealth directly to the people. However, senior officials feared losing their jobs "due to a parallel plan by Gaddafi to rid the state of corruption." Possible capital flight was also an issue.

    As a result, Libya's Popular Committee voted 468 - 64 to delay nationalization plans, even though a 251 majority viewed doing so as positive.

    Note: Gaddafi didn't consider how powerful insiders manipulate all markets up or down for profit, including oil, irrespective of demand. It's brazen fraud but goes on all the time, especially on Wall Street in collusion with Washington.

    Libya's Great Man-Made River (GMMR) was developing an ocean-sized aquifer beneath the desert for irrigation, human consumption, and other uses. At 2007 consumption rates, it could last 1,000 years. No wonder Gaddafi calls his Nubian Sandstone Aquifer System (NSAS) the "Eighth Wonder of the World."

    At issue, of course, is privatizing it, making water unaffordable for many, including most Libyans. In other words, Western predators want it exploited for maximum profits, not equitable use as a public resource.

    Ellen Brown's April 13 article titled, "Libya: All About Oil, or All About Banking?" raised another, easily overlooked, issue. Who controls Libya's money, the lifeblood of every economy? In 1970, Henry Kissinger said, "Control oil and you control nations. Control food and you control people." He left out money, the supreme power to control everything because without it economies collapse.

    At issue is public or private control like most nations, including America under Wall Street's owned and operated Federal Reserve.

    Under Gaddafi, the Central Bank of Libya was state owned. In other words, it created its own money, the Libyan Dinar, interest free to be used productively for economic growth, not speculation, profits and bonuses for predatory bankers.

    However, after Washington's led NATO intervention, the privately controlled Central Bank of Benghazi was established to let Western bankers, not Libyans, run things. Money control indeed appears an important reason for intervening, perhaps most important of all.

    On April 24, Manlio Dinucci's Global Research article headlined, "Financial Heist of the Century: Confiscating Libya's Sovereign Wealth Funds (SWF)," saying:

    Besides money, oil, gas, water, and other reasons, the "Libyan Investment Authority (LIA) manages" an estimated $70 billion, "rising to more than $150 billion (including) foreign investments of the Central Bank and other bodies. But it might be more."

    Confiscation gives US/NATO interests easy money for their own purposes. In fact, besides war, the business of America is grand theft in league with Western partners, Wall Street and other corporate interests.

    Gaddafi promoted pan-African unity, a United States of Africa he hoped to lead against Western powers wanting balkanized easily-controlled states.

    Libya was central to Africa's independence, including freedom from predatory central banks and international lending agencies, acting as loan sharks of last resort.

    He also funded Africa's only communications satellite. In doing so, he saved hundreds of millions of dollars for low-cost incoming and outgoing calls.

    In addition, he allocated two-thirds of the $42 billion needed to launch a public African Central Bank (HQ'd in Nigeria), an African Monetary Fund based in Cameroon, and an African Investment Bank HQ'd in Libya.

    The Obama administration stole the money and prevented it. If established, it would have provided low-cost (or perhaps interest-free) loans for health, education, and other social projects, as well as vital infrastructure development in participating African states.

    Washington and NATO partners destroyed his vision to rape Libya for profit and exploit its people. That imperialism's core element. Gaddafi wanted none of it. As a result, he had to go.

    He advocated a new "Gold Standard," replacing dollars with gold dinars. African and Muslim states supported it to provide real monetary wealth and value, free from predatory lending agencies and depreciating fiat currencies.

    Washington determined to prevent it to maintain petrodollar recycling and dollar hegemony as the world's reserve currency.

    In 1977, Gaddafi transformed the Libyan Republic into the Socialist People's Libyan Arab Jamahiriya - a "state of the masses." In 1979, he established direct participatory democracy, devolving power to tribal leaders. In 1986, Libya became the Great Socialist People's Libyan Arab Jamahiriya.

    A revolutionary leader, Gaddafi was a visionary. He wanted Libya's society based on equity, justice and fair distribution of wealth. Nasser said he represented Arab nationalism and unity.

    His faults aside, Libyans supported him overwhelmingly. They still do. His spirit drives their revolutionary struggle for freedom. They won't quit until it's achieved.

    http://rense.com/general95/hyd.htm

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    AHA! Speaking of the green book, here it is for your reading and perusing.Muammar-Qaddafi-Green-Book-Eng.pdf

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    Quote Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
    This is my tribute to Colonel Qaddafi.

    There is no electricity bill in Libya; electricity is free for all its citizens.

    There is no interest on loans, banks in Libya are state-owned and loans given to all its citizens at zero percent interest by law.

    Having a home considered a human right in Libya.

    All newlyweds in Libya receive $60,000 dinar (U.S.$50,000) by the government to buy their first apartment so to help start up the family.

    Education and medical treatments are free in Libya. Before Gaddafi only 25 percent of Libyans were literate. Today, the figure is 83 percent.

    Should Libyans want to take up farming career, they would receive farming land, a farming house, equipments, seeds and livestock to kickstart their farms are all for free.

    If Libyans cannot find the education or medical facilities they need, the government funds them to go abroad, for it is not only paid for, but they get a U.S.$2,300/month for accommodation and car allowance.

    If a Libyan buys a car, the government subsidizes 50 percent of the price.

    The price of petrol in Libya is $0.14 per liter.

    Libya has no external debt and its reserves amounting to $150 billion are now frozen globally.

    If a Libyan is unable to get employment after graduation the state would pay the average salary of the profession, as if he or she is employed, until employment is found.

    A portion of every Libyan oil sale is credited directly to the bank accounts of all Libyan citizens.

    A mother who gives birth to a child receive U.S.$5,000.

    40 loaves of bread in Libya costs $0.15.

    25 percent of Libyans have a university degree.

    Gaddafi carried out the world’s largest irrigation project, known as the Great Manmade River project, to make water readily available throughout the desert country.


    Hi Sid this is a great post

    I would just like to point out that the above information is something I have never heard before and i'm absolutely dumbfounded!!

    The Libyan people have been living the life of riley! why would they want the person who has brought all of this in for them to be taken out of power in the first place??

    It sounds like this country was being managed beautifully it's a thousand miles away from RIP OFF Britain - it's a shame there isn't more people like the Colonel around.

    Wow the Libyan people are in for a BIG shock now!! How ironic it is for them to think that they will be having a better life now he has gone.
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    Default Re: Farewell Colonel, many of us will miss you.

    If you want to see the Colonel, check this out.
    http://abcnews.go.com/Archives/video...dhafi-12966961

    Just found some more links to the interview. In parts, unfortunately.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Archives/video...links-12967036

    http://abcnews.go.com/Archives/video...amily-12967106
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    Default Re: Farewell Colonel, many of us will miss you.

    Quote Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
    Quote Posted by Anchor (here)
    They all traded with the enemy, until they decided they didn't want to play anymore and they didn't have central banks that were accountable/controllable by anyone but themselves.
    None of them had rothschild owned central banks issuing debt bearing currencies.
    But after they were all defeated, their nations did.
    Coincidence?
    And, if you recall, all three have been cast as mad, monsters and other things.
    Yet ''our'' nations use terror against us on the streets on a daily basis.
    They kill for profit.
    Never looked at it that way. Clever thinking! But I thought the Rothschild/Zionists funded the whole war ? Why funding Hitler and fighting him at the same time ?
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    Quote Posted by Black Panther (here)
    Quote Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
    Quote Posted by Anchor (here)
    They all traded with the enemy, until they decided they didn't want to play anymore and they didn't have central banks that were accountable/controllable by anyone but themselves.
    None of them had rothschild owned central banks issuing debt bearing currencies.
    But after they were all defeated, their nations did.
    Coincidence?
    And, if you recall, all three have been cast as mad, monsters and other things.
    Yet ''our'' nations use terror against us on the streets on a daily basis.
    They kill for profit.
    Never looked at it that way. Clever thinking! But I thought the Rothschild/Zionists funded the whole war ? Why funding Hitler and fighting him at the same time ?
    They didn't fund him after about 1935 or so.
    And the reason they fund both sides in war is this, they know one side will ''win'' and pay of the debt and that the other side will ''lose'', be looted by the ''winner'' and not be able to be pay the debt back, so they end up having all their stuff ''repossessed'', thereby the banksters win twice over.

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    Default Re: Farewell Colonel, many of us will miss you.

    Being the most cunning of all the Sith Lords, I have another video, totally unrelated to the thread, but functions as a bump.
    This is where Libyans will be.


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    Default Re: Farewell Colonel, many of us will miss you.

    Here is a story about someone else who wont toe the party line, so she was sacked.

    http://www.smh.com.au/world/model-lo...101-1mttw.html

    Quote A GERMAN company has cancelled a big advertising contract with an Italian-American model after she described her passionate relationship with Muammar Gaddafi's son, Muatassim, and praised his family.

    The telecommunications firm Telefonica Germany and its subsidiary, Alice, will stop working with 23-year-old model Vanessa Hessler and remove her face from its website, its spokesman, Albert Fetsch, said.

    ''Vanessa Hessler has failed to distance herself from her comments on the conflict in Libya,'' Mr Fetsch said. Hessler had been the company's advertising face for years, and giant posters featuring her were a highly visible fixture in many German cities.
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    Hessler told Italian magazine Diva e Donna that for four years she had been dating Muatassim Gaddafi, who was captured and killed in Libya alongside his father this month.

    ''I didn't have any contact with him since the uprising broke out, but our relationship was one of passion,'' she was quoted as saying by the magazine.

    ''The Gaddafi family is not as they are being depicted, they are normal people.''
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    Quote Posted by Anchor (here)
    Here is a story about someone else who wont toe the party line, so she was sacked.

    http://www.smh.com.au/world/model-lo...101-1mttw.html

    Quote A GERMAN company has cancelled a big advertising contract with an Italian-American model after she described her passionate relationship with Muammar Gaddafi's son, Muatassim, and praised his family.

    The telecommunications firm Telefonica Germany and its subsidiary, Alice, will stop working with 23-year-old model Vanessa Hessler and remove her face from its website, its spokesman, Albert Fetsch, said.

    ''Vanessa Hessler has failed to distance herself from her comments on the conflict in Libya,'' Mr Fetsch said. Hessler had been the company's advertising face for years, and giant posters featuring her were a highly visible fixture in many German cities.
    Advertisement: Story continues below

    Hessler told Italian magazine Diva e Donna that for four years she had been dating Muatassim Gaddafi, who was captured and killed in Libya alongside his father this month.

    ''I didn't have any contact with him since the uprising broke out, but our relationship was one of passion,'' she was quoted as saying by the magazine.

    ''The Gaddafi family is not as they are being depicted, they are normal people.''
    Thanks for that John.
    It seems that those who knew the family report the same things, they weren't demons, as the west would have us believe.

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    Default Re: Farewell Colonel, many of us will miss you.

    After a close and lengthy examinations of videos and photos, I have found that the alleged body of The Colonel is not him. Colonel Gaddafi has Moles under his left naustrial. The dead body resembling him is clear of any facial moles. They did get the goatee Right though.

    So where is the Colonel now?

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    Quote Posted by Davidallany (here)
    After a close and lengthy examinations of videos and photos, I have found that the alleged body of The Colonel is not him. Colonel Gaddafi has Moles under his left naustrial. The dead body resembling him is clear of any facial moles. They did get the goatee Right though.

    So where is the Colonel now?
    Alf Shukr, David.
    I hope that he is safe somewhere, waiting.

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    Default Re: Farewell Colonel, many of us will miss you.

    May the force be with the Colonel, master Sidious.
    Arabic recent news reports that his family crossed to Algeria including three children Hani-Ba'al, Mohammad and A'isha. They are under Algerian military protection.

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    Default Re: Farewell Colonel, many of us will miss you.

    Quote Posted by truth4me (here)
    Quote Posted by Dig (here)
    Quote Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
    Some may find it strange to miss a man that one has never met, or to even mourn his passing, but a real man is known by not just his words, but by his deeds also.
    And in this, the Colonel was a giant and will be known as such, once the banksters grip on the world is finished.
    Men like the Colonel are not only rare, but are priceless.
    I have heard recently that other countries consider the US as the Bullies of the world, except what we give you or you will be sorry, have you found this to be true?
    I find that to be true. I live in America and if I could afford to I would be out of this country in a heartbeat. That being said there are good people here but the government....oh the government stinks. I often wonder now why we in America decided to incarnate here or then again did we really have a choice? I know for what ever reason the whole Libya deal has blown me away.

    I guess since I'm awake more now then ever and can" see it " for what it truly is.....I know when I look at Hillary Clinton I just get a sick feeling that comes over me.......judge not the person but the actions of the person.....I tell myself this constantly.....
    Yes the USofA are the worlds greatest Terrorist & all other puppet nations follow(bullied) to share in the "booty/bounty".

    For fear that impossed sanctions will bought to bear on themselves

    My words to fellow Americans...is not to leave!..but stay put & make a difference...


    Good post Sid!!

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