Planet X/Nibiru/Tyche/Hercolobus/Elenin

[Hervé]

From: http://astroblogger.blogspot.com/201...recovered.html



Sunday, October 23, 2011

Comet C/2010 X1 Remnants Recovered.



Where comet Elenin should have been, the faint debris doesn't register of this stack of 5 x 2 minute exposures taken with GRAS-05.

After intense searching for the remnants of comet C/2010 X1 Elenin, which began to disintegrate back in August, there finally appears to be confirmed images of a debris field (that the Moon has waned somewhat probably helps too) .

Images from Rolando Ligustri show a nebulosity stretching along the predicted position of Elenin. Similar nebulosities at the predicted location of Elenin, found at different times (ie the debris field is moving along Elenin's orbital path) are found in these images from Leonid Elein, Michael Jäger , Jakub Cerny and Juanjo González Díaz.

The remnants are very faint, for example Rolando needed to stack six X five-minute exposures from a sensitive CCD camera (GRAS-20) together to show the dim cloud of material. Scientifically, this is very interesting, we have few examples where we can follow the debris trail of a disintegrated comet. How long amateurs can follow this faint patch of dust for is unknown, but it will probably continue to fade rapidly. Update: Rolando's latest image suggests that the remnants are fading fast.

The only people realy disappointed by this is the Doom-sayers, who will no longer be able to terrify people with lies of the scary comet Elenin.

[blufire]

You know I love you guys but I become somewhat amused at all the “tree peeing” going on here. You can’t seem to see the “forest” because of your own “personal opinion tree” you keep marking.

The undeniable fact remains that there was a 7.2 quake in India around the projected alignment . . . . not only that quake but numerous others around the world within a narrow time frame. There were aurora borealis lights far into the south here in the US . . . .as far as Memphis Tennessee . . . . a result from a major solar flare or cme. As well as, major flooding Thailand and Italy is occurring.

SOMETHING caused these significant events!!!

But, it doesn’t really matter WHAT is causing these geophysical events only that they are happening and at an exponential rate as far as magnitude and frequency.

Acknowledgement of truth is the first step into gaining wisdom.

[Hervé]

Posted by blufire (here)

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SOMETHING caused these significant events!!!

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Acknowledgement of truth is the first step into gaining wisdom.

Yes: the Sun!

[truthseekerdan]

For those that believe we have 'dodged the bullet'... Watch this video presentation, and pray that we'll avoid this coming one too...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=YftG3PgY4qM

[yiolas]

Hi TSDan, today was such a lovely day, that yes I thought that in fact we had dodged the bullet. I as well keep up with Nania's videos. Her persistence has to mean something. She does bring up some good points about the date of November 9th. There is so much going on these days, that it's almost impossible to keep up with. Change is definitely in the air. I don't know about you guys, but as the world scene around us changes from day to day, so do my personal circumstances and relationships. Lately, I don't know what each day will bring. It seems that we haven't reached a crescendo yet.
Good Luck and Much Love to everyone.

[truthseekerdan]

Posted by yiolas (here)
Hi TSDan, today was such a lovely day, that yes I thought that in fact we had dodged the bullet. I as well keep up with Nania's videos. Her persistence has to mean something. She does bring up some good points about the date of November 9th. There is so much going on these days, that it's almost impossible to keep up with. Change is definitely in the air. I don't know about you guys, but as the world scene around us changes from day to day, so do my personal circumstances and relationships. Lately, I don't know what each day will bring. It seems that we haven't reached a crescendo yet.
Good Luck and Much Love to everyone.

Hi Yiolas, though I don't follow anyone in particular besides my 'divine intuition within', stumbling upon her video made sense to post it here. After all we're each others teachers and students learning to live by acquiring the wisdom to see things as they really are, without prejudices or biases based on superiority, hatred or delusion.

Namaste ~ Dan

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by truthseekerdan (here)
For those that believe we have 'dodged the bullet'... Watch this video presentation, and pray that we'll avoid this coming one too...

I stopped watching after 29 seconds, when the video claimed that ELE NIN = ELEven NINe = 11/9.

[truthseekerdan]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by truthseekerdan (here)
For those that believe we have 'dodged the bullet'... Watch this video presentation, and pray that we'll avoid this coming one too...

I stopped watching after 29 seconds, when the video claimed that ELE NIN = ELEven NINe = 11/9.

That is your freedom of choice in action, brother Bill. Nobody can force you to watch anything, if it's against your will...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=F4caLsG6-ZA

[Kronuise]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by truthseekerdan (here)
For those that believe we have 'dodged the bullet'... Watch this video presentation, and pray that we'll avoid this coming one too...

I stopped watching after 29 seconds, when the video claimed that ELE NIN = ELEven NINe = 11/9.

Bill you must get so disheartened by looking at the numerous posts by people jumping to conclusions based on ill-founded proof and dare I say YouTube videos!

When you had the vision to start an on line community for likeminded & enlightened individuals to share their thoughts, ideas & research did you ever envisage this would be the result?

I was misguided enough to think that as soon as this elenin mania was over we could get back to the real ethos of what this forum was originally set up to do but reading posts like this makes my heart sink.

I feel for you Bill I really do.

[efields]

It's Melancholia.....See it!!!

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Kronuise (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by truthseekerdan (here)
For those that believe we have 'dodged the bullet'... Watch this video presentation, and pray that we'll avoid this coming one too...

I stopped watching after 29 seconds, when the video claimed that ELE NIN = ELEven NINe = 11/9.

Bill you must get so disheartened by looking at the numerous posts by people jumping to conclusions based on ill-founded proof and dare I say YouTube videos!

When you had the vision to start an on line community for likeminded & enlightened individuals to share their thoughts, ideas & research did you ever envisage this would be the result?

I was misguided enough to think that as soon as this elenin mania was over we could get back to the real ethos of what this forum was originally set up to do but reading posts like this makes my heart sink.

I feel for you Bill I really do.

Thanks for your very perceptive post. Yes, I do get disheartened sometimes.

Many YouTube videos are made by people with rather more enthusiasm than scientific training or basic let's-look-at-all-the-evidence rationality. The entire Elenin fiasco (not to mention 28 October, and -- soon coming and passing, I'm glad to say -- 11/11/11) has been a massive misdirect of the time and attention of millions of people away from the actual, important issues.

Benjamin Fulford has not helped us one bit with his extreme and unprovable claims that are leaped on a little too soon by those desperate to hear good news. I've lost count of the number of people who've approached me personally in the last month to ask my view on his claims. (I reply tactfully and graciously that Fulford is well-intentioned but frequently and deliberately misinformed -- and those I'm talking with almost always nod sagely and agree. The problem is always that they wanted to believe it was all true.)

The White Hat Reports can also be discounted: anyone referring to the long-awaited, mythical 'settlements' is merely taking their readers for another fantastical journey that has nothing to do with reality. The NESARA 'settlements' do not exist except in the pages of Rumor Mill News. You can quote that from me anywhere, including to Kerry -- who is brave, determined, impeccably intentioned, and sometimes a little too credulous.

And no, there's not been any splitting into "Two Earths". Nobody's loved ones, buddies, neighbors, or pets are suddenly going to disappear. You can quote that to Inelia, who should have known better (she was influenced by Lucia Rene) -- and reference to her my explanation here:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post301587

[Metaphysical interlude: Our higher selves can certainly 'birth' and 'parent' more than one personal 'soul' identity at this Games level -- and maybe also multiple version-copies of you on more than one timeline, simultaneously experiencing different realities. In this way, each of us may be like just one finger on our own 'real' hand. But this is not connected with or related to the 'Two Earths' idea.]

There'll be no sudden 'rapture' or 'ascension' which gets us off our own karmic hook. We all have a great deal to do before we're each truly free of our own past and everything we've all done which has contributed to creating the world as it is. We should all beware of claimed quick-and-easy solutions. There are none -- on a global scale.

With personal dedication, one can personally get out of the web, to a substantial extent, in one lifetime -- but it may take a couple of decades of committed practice. Those who are doing this personal work are all helping to 'raise the vibration of the planet': Inelia is quite correct about this.

Has an important tipping point been reached? Yes, it's quite possible. But the transformation of Planet Earth, and its 7 billion beleaguered citizens, is still no easy mountain to climb. It's far harder than Mount Everest: this is the Olympus Mons of all ascents. It's extraordinarily challenging and complex... and I'm sure this is why you -- reading this -- are here.

We have hard work before us that will take several generations. This has always been obvious to me, and I've always maintained this. And I'm optimistic. But only in the long-term. I've been more than disappointed by many in the alternative community this year. I honestly can hardly wait till we get to 1 January, 2013.

Timelines have changed (since the late 1980s, there's definitely been a steady divergence away from what so many people were 'expecting') -- and consciousness is gradually increasing. It will continue to increase worldwide during the next decade. As Inelia says, just hold your space, be positive in all you do -- and be aware of all your choices.

[passiglight]

Personally i find a lot of what follows to be very noteworthy,,,,,,,,

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=rUlYE_tbuAw

http://youtu.be/rUlYE_tbuAw


energy as love

[Carmody]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

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We have hard work before us that will take several generations. This has always been obvious to me, and I've always maintained this. And I'm optimistic. But only in the long-term. I've been more than disappointed by many in the alternative community this year. I honestly can hardly wait till we get to 1 January, 2013.

Timelines have changed (since the late 1980s, there's definitely been a steady divergence away from what so many people were 'expecting') -- and consciousness is gradually increasing. It will continue to increase worldwide during the next decade. As Inelia says, just hold your space, be positive in all you do -- and be aware of all your choices.

I think they may have gone through the given standard psychological hurdles in a given 'area' of (passage of) time.

For example, the finding of the hangnail of realty, then the chewing it off, the pain of finding more..then the search for a solution.

Then the human mechanism looking for the easy way out, the first thing that pulls it out of the given quicksand, stew, boiling pot, or however one may wish to express it.

I believe the ratio 'of those who look for the deeper aspects of the given subject -vs- the folks who search for the simple direct answer, in their ignorance of such depths', is the same as it has always been.

The difference here, being that the 'thing' they are moving toward is the actual relief of their given human ignorance. THE original and deepest problem source of all issues, is the actual issue on the table.

Which, due to the standard psychological response pattern, is going to naturally take a circuitous route to this slow rolling 'mass enlightenment'.

The trick, while wandering and gaming here and there.... is to not pick up too many plush toys of illegitimate representation, while journeying on the way to the doors of the playground.... where the din and noise ends ...and clarity can be found via rumination and reflection.

To understand that both the good and the bad will hawk untenable solutions on and in a scenario that engages the human tactic of willful ignorance in complex situations, this is key to understanding the length of time it is going to take.

This is not about a solution to a problem but the solution to the ignorance that brings about all problems. This ignorance is a base psychological issue of the human edifice, an edifice that has many self (ego/edifice cross confusion and self identification) protection mechanisms (for the egoic duality system) buried under the given human 'conciseness' 'hood' (of the given avatar vehicle), and thus the levels of entrapment and self delusion outstrips normal 'problem-reaction-solution' scenarios by a few magnitudes, at minimum.

What I'm saying is that the complexity of the issue is logically small but the stubbornness of the being inside to externalize the issue ----is as big as the life itself (both individually and collectively), as big as the one(s) attempting to break the logjam.

Thus many false paths can be and will be projected by both internal and external forces, this, regarding what the individual and thus the collective sees and involves themselves with.

[Hervé]

Here is the crux and depth of the "problem" to resolve:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
jorr, thank you for posting that video!

As he keeps repeating: it doesn't matter anymore if you shower them with documented facts... they won't believe you anyway! There's your answer Siberia9 and Seikou... just demonstrating that it doesn't matter any longer.

The "in your face" not even hiding in "plain sight" anymore.

His statements finally gave me the clue as to what was happening, for example since it works at all scale, on the Elenin threads:

Exposure to true information does not matter anymore: A person who is demoralized is unable to assess true information.

The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with informations [which are] authentic, true, with documents, with pictures [...] he will refuse to believe it.

That's the tragedy of the demoralization [step].

It gives the rationale behind all these Doom & Gloom propaganda from all corners that have been going on for so long... and no amount of actual facts could deter the believers... indicative of their state of mind!

The Rockefeller funded Russian "revolution" has been at it for a long time... ever read this booklet: The Soviet Art of Brainwashing?

This also provides an explanation as to why the likes of Alex Jones, David Ickes or Bill Deagle are still alive since, first, it doesn't matter anymore, second, their data still further the doom & gloom and, third, they gather in their wakes the ones to be targetted for further demoralization...

Since no amount of real, actual facts have any bearing on changing this planned, intended situation... there isn't much left in term of solution except the one advocated by Bill and Inelia: the raising of individual vibration (see this page for why that would work).

Here is the video originally posted by jorr:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=jMWVUoYNezU

[truthseekerdan]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Many YouTube videos are made by people with rather more enthusiasm than scientific training or basic let's-look-at-all-the-evidence rationality. The entire Elenin fiasco (not to mention 28 October, and -- soon coming and passing, I'm glad to say -- 11/11/11) has been a massive misdirect of the time and attention of millions of people away from the actual, important issues.

Hello Bill,

With all due respect, would you care to elaborate what are to you the "actual important issues"? (you don't have to include the Charles saga) Thank you in anticipation!

On a different note I would like to remind everyone here that we're all playing a 'holographic game' of duality that only exists in our minds (brain) -- therefore anything can happen 'suddenly' when one is least expected. Yes, this is a fact...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=gIzZuuRpd6k

Much Love to you and All

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by truthseekerdan (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Many YouTube videos are made by people with rather more enthusiasm than scientific training or basic let's-look-at-all-the-evidence rationality. The entire Elenin fiasco (not to mention 28 October, and -- soon coming and passing, I'm glad to say -- 11/11/11) has been a massive misdirect of the time and attention of millions of people away from the actual, important issues.

Hello Bill,
With all due respect, would you care to elaborate what are to you the "actual important issues"?

Here's the opening paragraph of Thom Hartmann’s masterwork, The Last Hours of Ancient Sunlight:

In the 24 hours since this time yesterday, over 200,000 acres of rainforest have been destroyed in our world. Fully 13 million tons of toxic chemicals have been released into our environment. Over 45,000 people have died of starvation, 38,000 of them children. And more than 130 plant or animal species have been driven to extinction by the actions of humans. (The last time there was such a rapid loss of species was when the dinosaurs vanished.) And all this just since yesterday.

In addition, between next month and mid-2012 there's likely to be major financial instability at best (or something that would make 1929 pale in comparison, at worst) --

(read http://projectavalon.net/Aftershock_...ed_chapter.pdf)

and the real possibility of major solar activity in 2013 that might bring down the grid in significant parts of the world, at best -- or throw many of us all temporarily into the Stone Age for a number of months, at worst.

(read http://projectcamelot.org/electrical_engineer.html)

Meanwhile, consciousness and awareness on the planet will continue to expand -- slowly but surely. Nothing instant will happen: just a gradually building wave of awareness, responsibility and demand for change.

And in the meantime, the controllers may not give up their many thousands of years of extreme hegemony all that willingly. Interesting times lie ahead.

No easy way out -- just a wild ride, maybe getting wilder, and as interesting as it comes. That's why this planet is the subject of so much attention.

All best wishes, Bill

[learninglight]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
No easy way out -- just a wild ride, maybe getting wilder, and as interesting as it comes. That's why this planet is the subject of so much attention.

All best wishes, Bill

Hi Bill...Thank you for your input most interesting

Just 1 queation....This planet is the subjuect of so much attention from whom?

much love

[Bill Ryan]

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A personal PS to the above. I was privileged today to share lunch with Seth Beaudreau, who showed those present round the table a slideshow of some of his photos taken throughout North America. We were spellbound.

http://photosbyseth.com/landscape/index.html

This planet is a marvelous, magical place. It's a jewel in the cosmos -- literally. We're trashing it mercilessly. If we do not find or create a way to prevent this, we will lose it all.

[yiolas]

Breathtaking photos Bill ! Thank-you for bringing it down close and personal.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by learninglight (here)
Just 1 question....This planet is the subject of so much attention from whom?

1) Extraterrestrial beings (some very powerful) -- both positive and negative.

Some of these groups and races have resources and abilities "indistinguishable from magic" (Arthur C. Clarke quote). Some of these have interacted openly with us in earlier times and were considered to be 'gods' by previous civilizations.

Some are very much on our side. Others are absolutely not. Some are just observing. Others are waiting for legitimate opportunities.

Those not on our side have been interfering and negotiating with those in power on Planet Earth, often tricking them in the process.

Those on our side are supporting in every way that is ethical -- including incarnating as humans.

2) Discarnate astral beings (some very powerful) -- both positive and negative.

Some of these are extremely ancient -- and, again, and have been perceived as 'gods' by previous civilizations. Again, some are very much on our side. Others are absolutely not.

Those not on our side are overtly interfering: sometimes using direct negative intervention, and sometimes using subtle trickery and deception (e.g. using channeled messages and other forms of persuasive communication which are believed by the uninformed).

Those on our side are supporting in every way that is ethical -- including incarnating as humans.

That's the set-up. The prize is the freedom or enslavement of humanity.