The Truth Exposed by WellAware1.com?

[jorr lundstrom]

Well, question is : Is this Luke in a new role?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=rY_A1500sI4

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
You can't make up the rules as it suits, nor can you massage them to suit.

Lord Sidious,

You are inferring that Ilie made up some rules here.

He did not. He took no actions against any member here. Period.

Please remove your stiletto from Ilie's ribs.

Admins and mods can express their views here just as well as any other member can.

Thanks.

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
You can't make up the rules as it suits, nor can you massage them to suit.

Lord Sidious,

You are inferring that Ilie made up some rules here.

He did not. He took no actions against any member here. Period.

Please remove your stiletto from Ilie's ribs.

Admins and mods can express their views here just as well as any other member can.

Thanks.

No, I am not.
I am saying that you guys can't do that.
You should know me by now, if I have something to say to you, I will say it, I won't infer it.
And I am not attacking him.
This is part of the problem with some staff, any form of criticism is taken as an attack.
Well, guess what?
It may be, it may not be, but as adults, it would be good to figure out which way it is first.
And yes, they can express their views, but Ilie was suggesting more than just putting his views up.
And for your information, I have had issues in the past with some of you spreading bull**** to people about things I never said.
So don't start preaching holier than thou to me.
Ok?

And, for the information of everyone here, it so happens that I like Ilie.
I dare anyone to find info where I have said otherwise.

[Kamikaze]

delete it all.

[Elixer]

People saying it is definitely not her etc, might need to look a little deeper. Chiarini says that a lot of the work is done in post production, especially with voices.
Keep in mind also, that if this perspective is true, that all the videos featuring these possible imposters, would have been produced, choreographed, scripted, manufactured.
They make sure the same actor looks significantly different for each of the characters he/she plays, through disguises, as well as post production editting.

He doesn't spend much time on the Inelia item, so at this point it really is quite a baseless accusation. But like I said, he often follows up with more compelling evidence.

I do agree that he accuses a lot of people we think of as Good, throwing babies out with the bathwater.
He incidentally accuses Luke Rudowski as well, since he was mentioned here.
So, Ed might need to be a little more throrough and careful perhaps, before making accusations.
As I stated, he could be a paid disinfo agent or something. He could be part of the very thing he appears to be trying to expose. He might be Tony Greenberg himself

But the fact that he points the finger at 'loved ones' should not be the reason to think he is a fraud. And no, it doesn't mean you cannot speak up about it either. I am not asking anyone to be silent.
But there doesn't need to be this animosity either. These total dissmissals are unnecessary, IMO.

I also agree with the idea that Ed might be caught up in his own conspiracy. He is quite possibly obsessed, which may cause him to see things where there are none.
He sees Tony Greenberg everywhere, which becomes quite funny when you watch a few of his videos.

The fact is, we live in a Disinformation age. Nobody is really sure whom they can trust and there are many disagreements in this area.
It seems that recently though these questions have been brought to a higher level on PA, with the con artist threads etc.
We could really use some hardcore technical stuff to help us wade through this jungle of (dis)information.
Ed might be helpful in this area, once he steps up his game a little, or once we include him in our midst.

And I think especially with awareness as the theme, this type of topic is very good and helpful.
Because, as I mentioned, this confusion might cause us to start supporting ideas, rather than people and that would be a good thing.
It might help us take in information without necessarily identifying with it, which I also think is crucial.
And so on.

[jp11]

I'm sure everyone reading this is aware of Mission Impossible, etc. (I'm also referring to the original TV show). Disguise is an amazing thing. And then there is also similar body types and faces. How many times have you been asked if you are so and so, etc? For me many, many, many times.

While I haven't watched any of the videos but the one with Inelia, I think what this does is get our attention. Again, I'm sure you're aware of the supposed moon mission tapes, done with a green screen. What's the truth?

Elixer

As I stated, he could be a paid disinfo agent or something. He could be part of the very thing he appears to be trying to expose. He might be Tony Greenberg himself

I think it's just common sense and certainly wise to be on the lookout for mis and disinformation. I think this Ed may be a patsy, being set up by tptw, to not only get our attention (the Avalon forum) but plant doubt in some of the theories presented here and else where.

Elixer

The fact is, we live in a Disinformation age. Nobody is really sure whom they can trust and there are many disagreements in this area.
It seems that recently though these questions have been brought to a higher level on PA, with the con artist threads etc.

And if this is all by design to get us in this community to begin (or is it continue) to be in not only disagreement with one another but infighting as it were, do we really want to succumb to that?

Discussion is a good thing; different points of view can be an advantage if one can take the information to stretch one's awareness rather than inserting the ego and the need to defend one's point of view as being "who I am."

We are so much more than our egos...and tptw are freaking out because they know we know that!

[Kimberley]

The Ed videos have been being discussed in many different places on the internet such as among my facebook friends and read the youtube comments on the videos themselves (youtube is a social network too).

As I stated earlier I think a few of the things that Ed has posted are convincing although most of them are not even close to convincing ...case in point Inelia...that one cracks me up ... And I bet it will have her laughing too. Hey I look at the good side of things... I bet there are people that have viewed Ed's videos that never have heard of Inelia...

I think the most important benefit of Ed's videos is the reminder to trust no one and to be reminded to be skeptical about everything question everything. The only thing we/you can trust is your own inner knowing.

Ed's point about lighting and make up is truth ... and of course there are actors making false "news"... For example I know that actors are showing up at #Occupy locations being paid to cause trouble...

I am not sure where the arguing energy that has shown up on this thread came from...??? When I first saw some of Ed's videos I had an ah ha moment...however I too think Ed is a bit obsessed with his new found game... I believe he believes in his investigation... I think he is very silly on many, many of his comparisons... If nothing else the Ed videos are entertaining...

Anyway I found a video several days ago that I feel is a good one to post in this thread (it may have been posted somewhere else, but for those that have not seen this that are following this thread it is a great expose on how so much of mainstream "news" is being reported by a bunch of puppets that are parrots....) In the biz we call it rip and read news...

This video is less than 3 minutes... Much Love to us all!!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=GME5nq_oSR4

[cloud9]

I have seen some of his videos before and I always wondered if people would believe this BS.

All human beings have 2 eyes, one nose and one mouth so that makes us somehow alike. This guy takes 2 blond women and regarding the differences in their voices, bone structure, hair line, even age he want us to believe they are the same person.

I couldn't help but to laugh a lot, Camille Grammer is the same person as Inelia Benz and the other lady with black hair and dark eyes? Just between Camille and Inelia there's at least a foot difference in height!!! What's even worst, they don't look alike at all!

I saw several videos and all I can say is this person has a mental or eye problem, a big one!

There were several comparisons he made that are just... well, he thinks 2 different men are the same person just because the 2 of them are bald! And the Steven Greer one? Laughable! As all the rest.

[GCS1103]

I would like to comment on only one aspect of these videos, as it pertains to Inelia. I have met Inelia in person, spoke to her and stood next to her when we were in Ecuador. I have also sat next to Camille Grammer in Nobu, a restaurant in Malibu, Ca., when she was still married to Kelsey Grammer. We both got up at the same time when we finished our dinner. There is NO WAY these two women are the same. Not only is there a dramatic difference in height (Inelia is very petite, Camille is not) but they do not resemble each other at all. The facial features, the speech patterns are not even remotely similar. I have no idea what else is true or not, in these videos, but the part regarding Inelia is 100% incorrect.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Just a thought .....

I can't remember which interview it was...but do you remember Bill had mentioned that one of his contacts had said that the ptw would try to discredit whistlblowers and the likes of Bill and Co....ect

The other day we had the 'Sun' and 'Mail' trying to discredit David Icke!!

And now these videos have come to light...

Roll the drums...

Hmmmm!! ?

viking

[Arc]

Posted by seko (here)
I don;t think Inelia is that person in that video.....is just not her, may be many of the others are, but not Inelia.

Exactly my sense of it. I only watched this with up until the Inelia part. Up to that point I thought most of the supposed facial correlations were not really matching upon closer looks. There was only one that I thought matched which was the female Canadian officer to the topless protester. Otherwise, most of these were just folks with similar feature in my opinion. Haven't you ever had a friend or family member tell you they just saw your twin at the store the other day?

But, back to the Inelia part. I stopped watching at that point because it is clearly not her in the comparison clips. The eyes and nose are different, even the skin tone. But, according to the narrator, then every central or south american woman must be the same person because they have dark hair and brown eyes. Also, every blonde lady with a certain nose is the same lady, etc.

Spidey senses weigh in... feels like cointelpro to me. Muddy up the waters, albeit a more clever attempt than any others I have seen. That's my assessment at this point.

I wonder if this guy cracked the conspiracy of all the Elvis impersonators - how they are all actually Elvis!

[Ilie Pandia]

The thing is that the people in the videos, the so called "actors", may have children, families, relatives, colleagues, own property and so on!

You can't say two people are the same because of the ears (and some major surgery). It takes time to recover from surgery, and as I understand it, you cannot have surgery forever, as the body can't take it. I believe is much simpler to find a "look-alike".

Also, some of the people in the video have a body of work that takes time to build and to maintain. Skipping between media roles would not allow for that.

There are timing issues. People cannot be in two places at the same time and looking very different. (It just means they are different people). So the timeline must be checked. Also the "genetic print" can only be done with a "genetic test" not looking at ones ears...

That being said:

- are there fake news: Yes (I know for sure because, I've seen it here in Romania).
- are actors being used to stage some piece of news or to infiltrate groups - most likely, yes
- do they use the same actors/agents in different situations - I don't see why not
- is the green screen used to fake settings - probably yes

But to jump from that to what I've seen in "Ed"'s videos.... is too big a leap.

[Mark]

Posted by DNA (here)
I'm having a hard time with some of the folks he states are the same people.
They don't really look that similiar.

They're not similar. They're not the same people. I skipped through the first two vids every minute or so and the people he says are the same in no way are. This is disinformation. More fear, more attempts to sow confusion.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Some interesting stuff here, particularly in the first vid, then he loses track a little and begins to see 'conspiracy' everywhere. The Inelia thing ... nah, sorry don't see the resemblance to the other women he depicts, nor the topless one. I cannot think that they are the same person. And the guy on the street on 9/11 saying “he didn't have a role right now" or something, signifying that he is an actor, it may simply have been a reference to the police having cordoned off the area as alluded. The guy was probably watching and waiting to continue the relief effort, and was indeed as he said, just "standing by."

And Lady Gaga?? I don't think so. A similar 'ear' is not enough. Give me some accurate face-recognition software and a legitimate investigation of these claims, then yes, we can reach a much better conclusion. But one cannot faithfully trust all his arguments based on only visual determinations.

Like I said though, the first vid (and pieces here and there on the others) is compelling. I think he is onto something and has definitely scored some hits. However he's scored some misses too I'm sure of it.

[HaveBlue]

I do aggree with all that has been said so far. The seal team 6 stuff is worth paying attention to. Especially about the threat of being sued and then the facebook behaviour of the guy he's calling out.
I'm going to reserve judgement for now. I am struggling too with some of the claims but think he's onto something overall.

Inelia is the most difficult one for me. Greer is suspect overall, not because of this but some of his other behaviour. As with all videos, they are only a place to start. I can never be swayed 100% to believe anything I see on a TV screen. Especially if it is unbelieveable to begin with!

But people like Carol Rosin and William Pawlec are very credible as they are merely reporting the corruption we know goes on.
I would rather thank those like Bill and Kerry and Steven Greer than dismiss them because they get one or two (or however many) wrong.

Surely we don't expect any of these folks to be perfect. We sure know our courts and justice systems are not!
I will keep an eye on Eds' site as I do this one. I most certainly do not believe everything posted here. BTW how is charles doing these days?

[jaybee]

Posted by Kamikaze (here)
I thought it was kinda funny at parts. Almost laughed when Avalon and Greer were pulled in.
.

Almost?

I DID laugh. It's a spoof...satire.


Either done by genuine actor/artists or it's a little PSYOPS vignette.

[Lord Sidious]

I had a thought.
You avalonuggets remember that town in Arizona where the cops took the town over?
And there were allegations that major players were actors?
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...tzsite-Arizona
I wonder if that is connected with this?

[Jeffrey]

Maybe 1% of that had some truth to it. He calls those people actors... I say he's a director (or paranoid schizophrenic) and he's making fear porn. To each his own I guess, whatever blows your dodie.

[truth4me]

Posted by Moemers (here)
Devil's Advocate:

If the government has technology capable of Time Travel and Cloning Grey Aliens to use in MILABs etc etc., is it really that far of a stretch to assume that they have technology enough to change people's appearances drastically?

thank you!

[Seikou-Kishi]

I'm not sure. A lot of them look so little like the people they're supposed to look like. As for 'Inelia' lol, he seems fixated on ears because if he hadn't been, he might have noticed the eyebrows don't match, the shape of the eyes don't match... it's odd that any similarity between two people is evidence of deception, but any difference is explained away as purposeful.