Richard Hoagland

[alienHunter]

Posted by Daft Ada (here)

Posted by alienHunter (here)
My first impression. This site's link went to the 'other' site and the 1st thing I saw were pop ups asking for donations. I don't believe any of it.

I don't think the site it is on is anything to do with the chap who is telling his story Alien.

As always, I will reserve judgement.

[Daft Ada]

The problem is that the whole scene has grown into a cottage industry of its own. As more and more "whistleblowers" come forward with extraordinary claims, it ups the ante for everyone else. To make the headlines (or to make serious money) you have to be more outrageous & more extraordinary than the rest of the pack. The problem is, that as more and more of these prove to be total bunkum, the whole alternative community get painted as whackos and crackpots, and eventually nobody at all - including die-hard devotees - believes anything that's said.... In effect, it blows itself out.

I agree with that mate

[Tarka the Duck]

If a brain surgeon had been wrong as many times as Hoagland.....

[Daft Ada]

Good lord! that doesn't bear thinking about Tarka, it wouldn't be so bad if he would admit it, no one expects anyone to be perfect and I admire people who take their best shot and state what they believe. But if your wrong, your wrong just admit it and most will forgive and move on. To stubbornly refuse just makes him look like an ego maniac all the time. I'm noticing the usual names dissapearing of his facebook page and those who are there are talking about boring mundain things now.

[PathWalker]

Posted by DevilPigeon (here)

Posted by PathWalker (here)
Apparently Hogland is a whistleblower attacked by anonymous defamation and discredited.
This is a very good sign that he is getting closer to the juice and becoming dangerous.

This is just the signs of a credible whistleblower.
TPTW have the following techniques to eliminate opposition:
1. Ridicule
2. Deny income source and employment.
3. Bribe to silence
4. Kill and maim
5. Incarcerate / kidnap
6. Destroy creditability and reputation

Hogland has life insurance BIG one. TPTW know that, otherwise he would have killed long ago.
Think about your sources and they counter sources.

It is possible that Hogland is not willingly a double sided agent.
The lie is different at every level.

I think it's dangerous to assume that if a "whistleblower" is being attacked, then that means they must be on the right path....

Absolutely agree, but there is some truth. I sense his truth as well as his drama and ego starvation.
Yet he is giving TPTW hard time and I like that. That means he is poking and poked a bit.

[PathWalker]

Posted by Tarka the Duck (here)
If a brain surgeon had been wrong as many times as Hoagland.....

Brain surgeons and other professionals do their mistakes. More then you think. A humle drivers can do a single mistakes and kill many people .
So it is our faith, karma, path...

[Truthseeker512]

just how exactly is he giving tptb a hard time?

He was telling everyone to vote for Obama not soo long ago and while everyone on the internet was getting in a nizwoz about Elenine and YU 55 or whatever it may be called the bankers are systematically destroying the economy while at the same time terrible atrocities were and still are being carried our all around the world by NATO in the name of freedom.

How many people spent valuable time listening to his rubbish about a tetrahedron spaceship instead of being proactive and doing something about this mess. Disclosure this, meteor apocalypse that.
Seems to me he is giving tptb a great opportunity as truthers bark up the wrong tree.

If he is so dedicated to the truth, why does he (or any other talking head) not promote the Bosnian Pyramids?! (except Wilcock who mentioned it a few times). There is a god damn energy beam shooting into space with the potential for energy extraction and data transmission. Sounds right up Hoaglands street except wait.... This is a fact and can actually make a difference in this world.

This story is so out of this world people would rather listen to codswallop instead of uncovering the actual truth. The truth IS stranger than fiction and im beginning to think most of us cant handle it. or want it.

The whole movement is a joke, not just hoagland. Most ppl are totally full of sh1t who we go to for truth. The fact that people are not going crazy about these Bosnian Pyramids proves it. THEY ARE THE BIGGEST STRUCTURES KNOWN ON EARTH and they suddenly turned up in 2005?! The game is so far ahead of what we think it is.
And im sick of people defending Hoagland. Its so god damn obvious.

Heres the clip btw I made showing you that there is an energy beam and its potential function. No need to cook up ant fantastic space alien story about a comet that is a spaceship that isnt a space ship that is going to destroy the earth that isnt going to destroy the earth. Did I mention there is no double double triple cross either? Damn. Noone is going to pay attention then.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=sA5o8tCHZN4

[DevilPigeon]

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Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=V5mZKZtIy2k

[Tarka the Duck]

Posted by PathWalker (here)

Posted by Tarka the Duck (here)
If a brain surgeon had been wrong as many times as Hoagland.....

Brain surgeons and other professionals do their mistakes. More then you think. A humle drivers can do a single mistakes and kill many people .
So it is our faith, karma, path...

Yes, of course they do...we are all human...
My point is that when a brain surgeon makes a mistake, the consequences can be devastating.
When Hoagland makes a mistake, it just keeps the chattering classes entertained!!

[DouglasDanger]

Posted by Rahkyt (here)
The article admits that the writer isn't certain that Hoagland is a Mason. He makes an educated guess based on the fact that Hoagland was allowed to film inside of a Masonic Lodge.

If this is true and he was alowd to film in a masonic lodge, and it is a real masonic lodge( not some hokey lodge dressed up to look like one for the cameras).. Hogland would have to be a mason. Masons do not let visitors, family or friends in the lodge for any reason unless they are fellow masons, and reading he got a camera into one to film makes me second guesss if it was a real lodge or not..
I've always taken Hogland with a grain of salt....

[Cartomancer]

Posted by DouglasDanger (here)

Posted by Rahkyt (here)
The article admits that the writer isn't certain that Hoagland is a Mason. He makes an educated guess based on the fact that Hoagland was allowed to film inside of a Masonic Lodge.

If this is true and he was alowd to film in a masonic lodge, and it is a real masonic lodge( not some hokey lodge dressed up to look like one for the cameras).. Hogland would have to be a mason. Masons do not let visitors, family or friends in the lodge for any reason unless they are fellow masons, and reading he got a camera into one to film makes me second guesss if it was a real lodge or not..
I've always taken Hogland with a grain of salt....

Freeman of Freemantv.com has videos of him and a large group of others visiting the Masonic Lodge in Philly. I have also heard you can tour the Masonic Lodge in D.C. if you have a family member that is a Mason. The bit about Hoagland being a Mason is interesting though. A lot of NASA people are said to be Masons.

[Darla Ken Pearce]

I can neither defend nor defame Hoagland. He is who he is ~ a first rate showman. It matters not who you are, someone will always arise to rain on your parade but what is the question? I have his books but haven't really gotten into them. Too much going on LIVE to matter much. It is a part of duality that we love to build people up only to rip them off the very pedestals we've place them on. Much of these accusing pages are opinions and not facts. We like to pile onto things like his old speech to the U.N. just to become part of the trainwreck. It's the mob mentality in us. None of it has meaning today, it was too long ago to matter at all or mean much.

So now, the accuser of NASA lies, is now being accused of lies, as well? We need a reality check and a break from negative thinking in general.

Getting too complicated and dark for me. Mercury just went RETRO and so are we being guided ~ backwards ~ to review some old decisions. They say that many of our old Gurus will fall soon. I wonder ~ Who could those be?

This is to be expected while we are locked within 3D constructs from us ~ but I don't put much pudding in it. These gurus are only useful for a time anyway. Our gurus and rock stars always fall on cue. We must become better masters of our own hearts and minds working in concert and out of duality constructs. It's like getting into a vortex of vicious circles ~ of use to no one. "Build them up, pull them down," is the chorus. When others arise and they start up with the "He said, she said BS." I turn the channel. I turn off that TV broadcast without regret.

Please take no pleasure in tearing down people, it's not profitable to our hearts. Let's move on to something important that matters to us. Give others the benefit of the doubt like Hoagland until facts actually prove otherwise. Believe or don't believe, these are choices that change like the wind. I made judgmental comments about Steven Greer once on Avalon ~ that I regretted later because they weren't fair or kind. These negative "judgments" are not places we wish to dwell. IMHO. Take a deep breath and RELEASE. Blood has been drawn here, move on... We are all about healing now. xoxox

[Sirius White]

I've never really found an interest in Richard Hoagland. Many of my friends like him, and I think alot of people listen to him. But I usually only listen to people I can actually "absorb" valuable information. By that I mean, information that is not simply filler for my head, but something that my heart resonates and "absorbs" into my general morphogenetic field (and cellular memory). In otherwords I retain knowledge in a way that which information is actually valuable to me as a spirit, oddly enough it includes many interesting subjects (including conspiracy related). Hoagland has many things that do interest me and I absorb, but for the most part it just seems like a lot of "fluff." To put it succinctly. No offense of course, he is probably right about a lot of things but I haven't felt the need to listen to him....

[Laurel]

Posted by woodshreder (here)
I find it interesting that Mr Hoagland is for the first time ever hosting a full 3 hr C2C show, and just a week or so before the show is aired the CharacterAssasination card is thrown out into the mix to hopefully to attack his morality and credibility. I am not up to speed with what the attack is about but the timing is very suspicious IMHO
Peace Always Peace

Hmmm....just throwing this idea out there.... November Sweeps Ratings
This is giving Hoagland and C2C lots of free publicity

I don't understand (sorry if I missed it in the videos) why this Gary isn't making the claims himself.

Posted by Daft Ada (here)
I don't know where you're from but I would interpret calling someone a "Nugget" to be on a par with "Fool" or "Idiot" in the UK, your knowing it as different doesn't make it right.

I thought it was a poopy ball which, in my pre-politically-correct childhood, was a term of endearment. Scary but true.

So, have a good giggle, be happy, pick up a nugget and throw it back at him.

[Referee]

Posted by Chucky (here)
Must say it contains some pretty hard insights....... I can only say that I like his footage and I know Alex Collier once commented about asking Hoagland in person why he doesn't just put all his stuff out there now and he just said he didn't want to yet. or to that affect... I must also point to a comment made about the new world order. We need a new world order. DON'T FAINT cause I will tell you why. Alex said it too. BUT and it is a BIG BUTT! That is uniting as a species is a needed thing to do and achieve right now. The New World Order is words and they promote FEAR now by association. True I don't want a new world order either in any context of being killed off or slaved. I will be a part of a New World called EARTH. When we are responsible for ourselves and no coercion is present. Respect and Love is from our hearts because freedom is expected and upheld by everyone. Mutual, and always there for each other to learn and grow as a species which we can call EARTH our welcoming Home. Now we need to discern the obvious in any people who have claims and just except that they have their own reasons for what they do. Is Hoaglands service to self or service to others! Use the scales and see. He need to use them on himself like we all need to do and maybe he will come around and give the world the pics he has. Alex Collier believes he has them too. How ever the reasons are Hoaglands on why they aren't released yet. I pitty that bit because we see already on here everyone is now saying what we need to do the the government right. Show me the proof!!!! I hope so...
If he is for the money he will sue!!!! IMHO Thanks Chucky

Posted by Daft Ada (here)
Wow! this should make some sparks fly, I have read all 12 pages and I can't see how Hoagland can ignor the accusations in this and I think he will either have to take some legal action or come clean?

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1427/...SplittedPage=1

We are not ready as the race of Humans for one world government as you put it. I am sorry. too many evil doers. As far as Hogland. I always felt he was a troll he dances on the podeum too much

[Daft Ada]

Posted by Daft Ada (here)
I don't know where you're from but I would interpret calling someone a "Nugget" to be on a par with "Fool" or "Idiot" in the UK, your knowing it as different doesn't make it right.

I thought it was a poopy ball which, in my pre-politically-correct childhood, was a term of endearment. Scary but true.

So, have a good giggle, be happy, pick up a nugget and throw it back at him.

If it was a term of endearment then why didn't he just say so when I said I had no understanding of it's meaning in my very first comment on the point, instead he said it was a secret? The exact point I was making is that on a forum with multi national members, calling someone a name which only you and your mates understand can cause offence, as in their country it can have a completely different meaning.

Plus when I have seen the word used in this forum before it is used as a derogatory remark as in a post today called "Vaccine Nuggetry down under" and is about people behaving badly and forcing children to have a vaccine, so how is that endearment?
Plus why does the member feel he needs to use a term of endearment with me, I have never met him and I don't know him so it's very patronising like a father talking to his child. I don't need his approval or endearments, it's a bit like the boss giving the girl in the office a friendly pat on butt as he walks by, meant as endearment and approval, in fact sexual descrimination which will get you in court. People need to be aware and conscious of their behaviour with strangers and that is why in his profession I am amazed he is not aware of that. Do I really care or give a damn about being called a nugget? no I don't, but I have noticed this member using the term with people on this forum a great deal lately and some won't have the nerve to speak out.

[Lord Sidious]

Why can't you let it go?
I already apologised to you.
What more do you want?

[Daft Ada]

I was simply answering a statement from a member, would you like to give me a link to your apology. I don't see one Sid?

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by Daft Ada (here)
I was simply answering a statement from a member, would you like to give me a link to your apology. I don't see one Sid?

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post365851

[Daft Ada]

You call that an apology do you Sid? all you say is that you are sorry I took it that way and then procede to call me a nugget again. That is not in any way shape or form an apology