The Breaking of the Loop Current in the Gulf Stream

[Helvetic]

The Breaking of the Loop Current in the Gulf Stream

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=s_Hy9AhOdec

Science shows the Loop Current in the Gulf Stream has broken. Will this mean an end to the icefree Northern Hemisphere?

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[Elandiel BernElve]

Thanks Helvetic, I'll guess we'll have to wait and see how our next summer and winter is gonna be..
Not mentioning the impact of the strange behavior of the Sun lately, we're in for climatic change anyway

[Etherios]

omg i always thought the oil had to get to the atlantic to create a problem... but this ... i wish ppl with climate knowledge talk more about this here ... we need this info..

[ascendingstarseed]

Wow! That's serious news, I wonder what the this means for all the oil in the Gulf. All a long they've been saying that the current would take the oil up the Atlantic coastline and then out towards Northern Europe, will most of the oil and toxins stay in the Gulf like a toxic stew?

If this is permanent it can't be good for weather patterns in the farm belt either...

[Etherios]

Posted by ascendingstarseed (here)
Wow! That's serious news, I wonder what the this means for all the oil in the Gulf. All a long they've been saying that the current would take the oil up the Atlantic coastline and then out towards Northern Europe, will most of the oil and toxins stay in the Gulf like a toxic stew?

If this is permanent it can't be good for weather patterns in the farm belt either...

man gulf stream effects the Atlantic currents... if this stops ... it WILL effect the weather globally... lets hope this isnt going to happen.

[ascendingstarseed]

thanks for the post, this is very serious indeed...

[jack]

This happens at around and about the same time every year, no real need to worry guys. Just take a look at the graphs for the loop current this time last year, they are almost identical ; http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1004083920.htm

Last year at this time ; http://argo.colorado.edu/~realtime/g...h/gmt.9492.gif
This year, right now ; http://argo.colorado.edu/~realtime/g...h/gmt.9670.gif

We are the ones who have control over the fear and panic that is used to make us create a false reality. Be careful not to jump on the fear bandwagon.

[Humble Janitor]

Can you say MORE DOOM? LOL.

I would take a wait-and-see attitude before panicking. Of course, GLP and ATS must be having a field day with these pictures.

[TOTHE]

Loop current surface velocity: still in the eddy formation. Make your own map for whatever year you want in this link..also day to day "eddy watch". Time to start worring??
http://argo.colorado.edu/~realtime/g...l-time_velmag/

[MorningSong]

I found an email with this "info" that the Gulf Loop had "broken" on Saturday and spent the most of the afternoon researching on the net.

I started here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loop_Current which gives an overall definition of the phenom.

Part of the Gulf Stream, the Loop Current is a warm ocean current in the Gulf of Mexico that flows northward between Cuba and the Yucatán peninsula, moves north into the Gulf of Mexico, loops west and south before exiting to the east through the Florida Straits.

A related feature is an area of warm water called an "Eddy" or "Loop Current ring" that separates from the Loop Current, somewhat randomly. These rings then drift to the west at speeds of about 5 cm/s (0.18 km/h or 0.11 mph) and bump into the coast of Texas or Mexico.

Around 1970, it was believed that the Loop Current exhibited an annual cycle in which the Loop feature extended farther to the north during the summer. Further study over the past few decades, however, has shown that the extension to the north (and the shedding of eddies) does not have a significant annual cycle.

From there I was led to the mentioned Colorodo Altimetry site mentioned on other posts. I must have gone through 2 years of info adn found that in 2008 a similar situation diveloped. Here is a view of the data from Aug 1st, 2010.



As you can see, the current IS flowing into the Gulf through the Yucatan pass, a new "loop" IS forming in the Gulf and, also what's important, the warm current IS flowing out of the gulf under Florida which will head up the east coast.

I did find this article from the 22nd of July, stating that the breaking of the Gulf loop meant that the oil would not find its way out of the Gulf (at that time) which is/was good for the east coast, but I assume, bad for the Gulf.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/environ...-break/1110244

The main eye-opener, for me, was that the eddy now formed in the Gulf is very warm water that could accellerate a hurricane should one pass over it before it (the loop) dissipates against the Texas coast.

From WIKI:

The Loop Current and its eddies may be detected by measuring sea surface level. Sea surface level of both
the Eddies and the Loop on September 21, 2005 was up to 60 cm (24 in) higher than surrounding water,
indicating a deep area of warm water beneath them.[1] On that day, Hurricane Rita passed over the Loop
current and intensified into a Category 5 storm with the help of the warm water.

Now what would be very serious is IF the current from the Yucatan moving INTO the Gulf or the current moving OUT of the Gulf under Florida should stall... but this is just IF, people, and it hasn't happened yet, so don't let this report of the "broken" loop frighten you. And yet, if you really want to see the (mis?) info, unfortunately, you can read it here (I hate that Marshall put this out as many people will think it is "absolutely correct" info, and it might be, but I seriously doubt it).

http://yowusa.com/earth/2010/earth-0810-01a/1.shtml

Search, research and decifer for yourselves.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by MorningSong (here)
I found an email with this "info" that the Gulf Loop had "broken" on Saturday and spent the most of the afternoon researching on the net.

I started here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loop_Current which gives an overall definition of the phenom.



From there I was led to the mentioned Colorodo Altimetry site mentioned on other posts. I must have gone through 2 years of info adn found that in 2008 a similar situation diveloped. Here is a view of the data from Aug 1st, 2010.



As you can see, the current IS flowing into the Gulf through the Yucatan pass, a new "loop" IS forming in the Gulf and, also what's important, the warm current IS flowing out of the gulf under Florida which will head up the east coast.

I did find this article from the 22nd of July, stating that the breaking of the Gulf loop meant that the oil would not find its way out of the Gulf (at that time) which is/was good for the east coast, but I assume, bad for the Gulf.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/environ...-break/1110244

The main eye-opener, for me, was that the eddy now formed in the Gulf is very warm water that could accellerate a hurricane should one pass over it before it (the loop) dissipates against the Texas coast.

From WIKI:


Now what would be very serious is IF the current from the Yucatan moving INTO the Gulf or the current moving OUT of the Gulf under Florida should stall... but this is just IF, people, and it hasn't happened yet, so don't let this report of the "broken" loop frighten you. And yet, if you really want to see the (mis?) info, unfortunately, you can read it here (I hate that Marshall put this out as many people will think it is "absolutely correct" info, and it might be, but I seriously doubt it).

http://yowusa.com/earth/2010/earth-0810-01a/1.shtml

Search, research and decifer for yourselves.

Thank you, MorningSong - good information, and very much appreciated.

An excellent example of how this forum can be a place of sharing research.

[Operator]

Posted by MorningSong (here)
The main eye-opener, for me, was that the eddy now formed in the Gulf is very warm water that could accellerate a hurricane should one pass over it before it (the loop) dissipates against the Texas coast.

I had the same thought ... if warm water is not able to 'escape' it will be feeding potential hurricanes more when they pass.
Since the gulf is 'fed' by a stream passing the Yucatan peninsula there is a potential that the Caribbean sea will warm up eventually ...

Fortunately the approaching storm (Colin) seems to sway of north instead of entering the Caribbean ...

[norwaymike]

Great info about the loop current! The film link, about Nibriu... At best, Nibriu must be placed into a context of mankind's spiritual evolution. This film does not attempt even to bring this event into context. Therefore it seems to be just part of that general background noise of speculation, conjecture, dreaming and fragmentation that gets people caught up in details that take their attention away from the task at hand - increasing the number of spiritually awakened human beings on this planet as, again this time as a MINIMUM necessity for regaining a really sustainable future - either in 3,4,or 5 density as they call them!

[TOTHE]

This is the best scientific write up I found on the loop current so far. Fascinating read.
Abrupt Climate Change: Should We Be Worried?
Part of text from link below.
By Robert B. Gagosian
President and Director
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution
Prepared for a panel on abrupt climate change at the
World Economic Forum
Davos, Switzerland, January 27, 2003
".......About 12,700 years ago, as Earth emerged from the most recent ice age and began to warm, the Conveyor was disrupted. Within a decade, average temperatures in the North Atlantic region plummeted nearly 5°.
This cold period, known as the Younger Dryas, lasted 1,300 years. It is named after an Arctic wildflower. Scientists have found substantial evidence that cold-loving dryas plants thrived during this era in European and US regions that today are too warm. Deep-sea sediment cores show that icebergs extended as far south as the coast of Portugal. The Younger Dryas ended as abruptly as it began. Within a decade, North Atlantic waters and the regional climate warmed again to pre-Younger Dryas levels.

A similar cooling occurred 8,200 years ago. It lasted only about a century—a blip in geological time, but a catastrophe if such a cooling occurred today."
http://www.whoi.edu/page.do?cid=9986&pid=12455&tid=282

[MorningSong]

Very good info. Thanks Tothe!

[TOTHE]

Monitoring the Gulf of Mexico Conditions During the Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill From the Oil Spill Response Workshop NOAA/AOML and NOAA/SEFSC sites. This is an alternative way for us to monitor the Gulf and dispel any "false flag" panic attack attempts. So far the loop looks good with a large eddy to the North that WILL turn the Gulf into a warm pond to feed the engines of any stray or passing hurricane.
Here is the index for all the GOM products.
http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/phod/dhos/index.php
Latest loop current "plug-in" map from the NOAA/AOML and NOAA/CoastWatch
http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/phod/dhos/geos.php

[TOTHE]

Now we have 3 sources for GOM plug in maps for speed/currents, SSH & SST.
Lets see who is the most un-biased re. latest Marshall Masters update!
Update# 1 http://yowusa.com/earth/2010/earth-0810-05a/1.shtml

From the US Naval Research Laboratory
http://www7320.nrlssc.navy.mil/global_nlom32/skill.html
Snapshot & movies of GOM note: get a load of the July 13 loop current stall.
http://www7320.nrlssc.navy.mil/global_nlom32/gom.html

From The Colorado Center for Astrodynamics Research
http://argo.colorado.edu/~realtime/g...l-time_velmag/

From NOAA/AOML and NOAA/SEFSC
Index.
http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/phod/dhos/index.php
"plug-in" map
http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/phod/dhos/geos.php

Index of all Ocean Conveyer articles of research from the Hole
http://www.whoi.edu/page.do?pid=12455

[MorningSong]

Tothe, I have only just now seen Marshall's update:

Lets see who is the most un-biased re. latest Marshall Masters update!
Update# 1 http://yowusa.com/earth/2010/earth-0810-05a/1.shtml

Very interesting....
Hmm... now I begin to doubt my own small research since I, too, used the same source of data [New?] as the researcher himself [Old and New]... I'm asking myself if the data I looked at is reliable..what a pity! I will be taking a look at the Navy data for comparison.

Now, his appology to the University in question is quite revealing, too. Someone stomped on his toes!

Although I am not a Nuclear Physicist nor an Oceanography expert, I still believe that the "broken loop" is a natural and cyclical phenom BUT a close friend has mentioned that the oil/dispersant could effectively impact the current as well as the temperature of the water in the Gulf in the absence of the typical loop at this time. I will be watching with great curiosity this possibility.

[HORIZONS]

Dr Deagle reveals a source and talks about this towards the end of this show on fri. http://podcast.gcnlive.com/podcast/n...ed/0806102.mp3
His claim is that it is not a broken loop current but a dead one. Hopefully this is false. We shall see!

[TOTHE]

MorningSong; I agree with your conclusions and concern.
All we can do is watch the frequency of the interruptions and hope they do not increase. Each interruption as it moves up the Ocean Conveyer will have an effect on the weather as Greybeard commented on his experience this year. The Icelandic Volcano hammered the upper part of the Atlantic Conveyer this year I am assuming. None of this stuff good as it adds to the disruption vectors present to the worldwide conveyer system. So far hurricanes have been most common natural disrupters.
I am not an expert either, my hydrology experience is limited to the study of mud puddles when I was 6 years old.
Looking at 3 of the maps of the GOM I can see that the current stall develops is when the Franklyn Eddy breaks off. The cyclonic spin of the eddy blocks the current. Then the anti-cyclonic eddy moves in from west between Franklyn Eddy and the Current just at the 'pinch' to get the Current restarted. So again, we have to be concerned with the frequency of the stalls with a historical reference going back a couple of years before we start jumping to conclusions.
Sigh, now I have to look and see what Dr. Deagle says in the link of the previous post...every day seems to be a big test on my objectivity.