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[ghostrider]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by Mandala (here)
I have to ask about the Gabby Gifford thing and the number of people that would have to be involved. If Dallasgoldbug reports these are all actors, then what about the hospital (nurses and doctors), the little girl that was killed and her classmates/teachers that knew her.. . you mean that was all fabricated? I could see an isolated event, with no ties or background connection, but my question is could "they" pull this off with all the peripheral people involved?

''They'' pulled off 9/11, no?

sid always the voice of reason

[Unified Serenity]

Look at these doubles and tell me this guy wouldn't say they are the same person given what he deems as proof of these people in his videos being the same people in nefarious situations etc:




Nick Richmond / Sean Connery


Steve Sires / Bill Gates



One who was used to fool our enemy:


In 1944, shortly before D-Day, M.E. Clifton James, who bore a close resemblance to Field Marshall Bernard Montgomery, was sent to Gibraltar and North Africa, in order to deceive the Germans about the location of the upcoming invasion. This story was the subject of a book and film, I Was Monty's Double. http://www.oddee.com/item_86234.aspx

wow, pics not showing up. Go to the url see for yourself.

[modwiz]

Posted by ghostrider (here)
we must be skeptical , remember charles ? I do believe some are actors scripting events, some are not. the Inelia thing is hard to buy.

The Inelia thing is like a gullibility/intelligence test. Or, a hallucination test. Either way, believing that is Inelia would make me take away a few drivers licenses.

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by ghostrider (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by Mandala (here)
I have to ask about the Gabby Gifford thing and the number of people that would have to be involved. If Dallasgoldbug reports these are all actors, then what about the hospital (nurses and doctors), the little girl that was killed and her classmates/teachers that knew her.. . you mean that was all fabricated? I could see an isolated event, with no ties or background connection, but my question is could "they" pull this off with all the peripheral people involved?

''They'' pulled off 9/11, no?

sid always the voice of reason

I try to be, but sometimes I get involved in silly stuff.
None of us are perfect.
I try extremely hard to keep my ego in check.

[K626]

Look into typeage and early Russian experiments ie Eisenstien..


"2 concepts at the heart of E's sense of montage: 1) Psycho-physiological and
2) Hegelian theory.
Utilitarian purpose as well as artistic -- propaganda as well as art. Most important -- to affect the spectator. Wanted to electrify the masses. Psycho-phys. approach: Pavlov -- re-condition the reflexes of humans to lead them in a desired direction. E felt the cinema could create a physiological impression as it projects matter and bodies rather than just feelings. Have a physical response to shooting scene, for example.
Hegel -- idea of 2 opposing forces acting to produce a third, independent force. Synthesis of original thesis and antithesis.

Typage and montage central to Eisenstein's work.
Typage
-- no professional actors, talked with survivors -- typage theory -- people chosen on basis of their "type". Quote: "The only thing I need is contact with the people"
-- felt their was a greater sense of reality with this technique. Came from imagination and observation. Ex. Streetcleaner--> doctor
Philosophy -- a 30 year old playing a 60 year old --> rehearsal is weeks at tops. 60 year old playing 60 year old has a lifetime of rehearsal. Act as themselves.

Potemkin = montage of film pieces. Montage plus captions superseded acting and story conventions. Rhythmic and content montage used especially:
Rhythmic:"

The blending of actors and "real people" in the media is preparing us for things to come.


Peace

K2

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by jorr lundstrom (here)
The first video was interesting, then it gets very weird. To state that inelia

and that woman is the same is just too far out.

I agree, the first video caught my interest too jorr. But, the woman in the second video is absolutely NOT Inelia. I sat and had coffee with her and Bill when they were here in the area some months back, and I can assure everybody that attractive as she is, Inelia in NOT endowed like the topless woman. Nuff said.

If this guy is peddling that kind of garbage, then he's very likely got shenanigans going on with much of his other material. This makes it two thumbs down for my review.

[Debra]

QUOTING THE RESPONSE BY AVALON MEMBER K626 `The blending of actors and "real people" in the media is preparing us for things to come.'

The far reaching implications of this are unfathomable. I got severley rapped on the knuckles during my PhD in performance theory research when I blended actors amongst real people telling their stories .. all part of experimentation of trying to hand over the voice of the people within a theatre context. The lines were so blurred, even though the experiment was declared before they entered, the outcome was so stressful. On top of that, the event that I had created was a - ´symposium on alien- human relations' with speakers on the topic from the real world, with general audience participants who were invited to speak out as well. So, the subject alone was very uncomfortable for some, well for many really. The point is, having real actors in their midst, set up to encourage and invite their participation, actually got forgotten and out of hand, and when reminded, the feeling from people was so great. I can still feel the anger to this day. The sense of being manipulated was so insulting for them. I have to admit, that when Inelia-s face came up in the mix, along with Bill Ryan, I was dumbstruck. Of course, I have read as much as I can on this film maker, on what everyone else is saying, to get a handle on what the hell is going on here. I am not dissing everything that this documentary is putting forward. Absolutely not. But, who is the writer, what are his intentions? Going after Inelia (I cant buy the face matching by which he has drawn Inelia into this, some of the others, yes, but not Inelia). Nonetheless, I see this as a form of warfare, that works to manipulate us and to smear innocent people as well, who are deemed irritants, and especially threats.

[Maia Gabrial]

I think that alot can be done with cosmetics and all that Hollywood "stuff" they use to change features is valid. Even a small change would fool most people, unless it's someone trained to notice minute details. Moles can be added. Shapes of lips and hairlines can be altered.
Just look at what the experts in Hollywood can do.
Barring cosmetic surgery, I'm apt to believe most of the similarities he pointed out.
I also think that maybe he's got a problem with Avalon....

[Unified Serenity]

Posted by Maia Gabrial (here)
I think that alot can be done with cosmetics and all that Hollywood "stuff" they use to change features is valid. Even a small change would fool most people, unless it's someone trained to notice minute details. Moles can be added. Shapes of lips and hairlines can be altered.
Just look at what the experts in Hollywood can do.
Barring cosmetic surgery, I'm apt to believe most of the similarities he pointed out.

Those are valid points. I just think sometimes we look to hard for conspiracy.

[modwiz]

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)

Posted by Maia Gabrial (here)
I think that alot can be done with cosmetics and all that Hollywood "stuff" they use to change features is valid. Even a small change would fool most people, unless it's someone trained to notice minute details. Moles can be added. Shapes of lips and hairlines can be altered.
Just look at what the experts in Hollywood can do.
Barring cosmetic surgery, I'm apt to believe most of the similarities he pointed out.

Those are valid points. I just think sometimes we look to hard for conspiracy.

Yes, we do. There is enough to fill a dumpster without looking for more. Making it up is really being a buttnugget.

[Maia Gabrial]

Maybe Ed has a problem with Avalon....

[sunnyrap]

didn't snap to the Inelia business....thanx for that. I don't know how you could verify all his examples, but we could and should sure ask him to do so if he is to be taken seriously. It is certainly valid to demand that kind of research be backed by painstaking, meticulous research and not just a few facts sprinkled in with assumptions. It's either a case of conspiracy fever, or a clever way to fan the resistance flames just as he accuses others of. Sheesh...rabbit holes have too many blind tunnels and roots, don't they?

That is the value of forums like this...many views from many eyes and minds.

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I have to confess to being to quick to tip to the side of conspiracists...(SHEEPISH)

[Maia Gabrial]

When I put this thread out, I had hoped that it would be analyzed, and even sliced and diced. Everyone had a valid point about Ed's deductions, even differing points of view. Good. That's as it should be.
I think what bothered me was a comment someone made about it being a waste of time on this Forum, putting a thread out like this. What did you want nice safe (boring) topics? Every once in a while there's a thread that just sparks our minds. This thread was meant to make you think about the possibilities of how the public can easily be deceived. It was not meant to piss anyone off.

There were alot of good, valid points made that even made me reconsider my own views. And I thank you all.

But please don't say that this was unworthy of posting in this Forum....because we talk about many things here. Even ridiculous subjects. Or that we go off on wild tangents if it pleases us. That's what I love the most about this Forum. It ain't boring because we just don't let it become that way!

(And for the record, I didn't think the comparisons of Inelia and the other one was believeable either)....

[Unified Serenity]

This topic is most valid on this forum Maia. If anyone thinks it's beyond our gov't or tptb to put in actors to play their parts then I think they are sadly mistaken. Remember when 9/11 happened and that guy they interviewed on the street had this nice explanation to get the ball rolling along the lines they wanted the American people to buy? He was proven to be an insider dressed up to look like an average joe.

Thanks for the topic Maia.

[modwiz]

Posted by Maia Gabrial (here)
When I put this thread out, I had hoped that it would be analyzed, and even sliced and diced. Everyone had a valid point about Ed's deductions, even differing points of view. Good. That's as it should be.
I think what bothered me was a comment someone made about it being a waste of time on this Forum, putting a thread out like this. What did you want nice safe (boring) topics? Every once in a while there's a thread that just sparks our minds. This thread was meant to make you think about the possibilities of how the public can easily be deceived. It was not meant to piss anyone off.

There were alot of good, valid points made that even made me reconsider my own views. And I thank you all.

But please don't say that this was unworthy of posting in this Forum....because we talk about many things here. Even ridiculous subjects. Or that we go off on wild tangents if it pleases us. That's what I love the most about this Forum. It ain't boring because we just don't let it become that way!

(And for the record, I didn't think the comparisons of Inelia and the other one was believeable either)....

It was certainly worth discussion. Especially with Avalon and one of our featured interviewees being a subject. Ignore the nugget tossers.

[jackovesk]

Posted by Maia Gabrial (here)
These videos are pretty interesting in that he shows how the same people that he calls actors are involved in other protests and scam news. I have to admit that some people are really good at detecting minute details. It's worth watching just to see if you can agree with what he's pointing out. Get your conspiracy juices flowing....

(GREAT THREAD) Maia Gabrial (THANKYOU)

Regards,

Jack

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by Maia Gabrial (here)
I think that alot can be done with cosmetics and all that Hollywood "stuff" they use to change features is valid. Even a small change would fool most people, unless it's someone trained to notice minute details. Moles can be added. Shapes of lips and hairlines can be altered.
Just look at what the experts in Hollywood can do.
Barring cosmetic surgery, I'm apt to believe most of the similarities he pointed out.
I also think that maybe he's got a problem with Avalon....

This can be a very dicey thing we're talking about here. What I get from this guy is that he reminds me of Glenn (the false) Beck. You can get a lot of good information, and even some new ways to look at things, but if you're not extremely careful you'll be lead right off the edge of a cliff with the misinformation mixed in.

I don't doubt that there are actors out there doing this kind of thing, that's probably a good little nugget to be aware of, as it wouldn't surprise me a bit if we have some of those embedded in our midst here at Avalon. Thing is, with a whopper like the Inelia segment, once I catch someone doing that the trust is forever compromised. You know, fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me? Yes I'm willing to go along with the actor thing, to a point, but what are his intentions now that we know he will purposely and falsely accuse a person of being fraudulent?

For the record I didn't think the Fort Hood shooter he demonstrated looked right either.

I think this is a very important and multifaceted subject for us to be aware of and also discuss Maia, and thank you for bringing this to our attention.

[araucaria]

He knows that a serious researcher should be comparing voice patterns, so we get a few voice patterns on screen - his own! this strikes me as somewhat disingenuous to say the least.

I wonder does anyone recognize this guy's voice - could be interesting

[Ilie Pandia]

Perhaps a new reminder about this is needed: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ll=1#post63045

[13th Warrior]

Posted by Ilie Pandia (here)
Perhaps a new reminder about this is needed: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ll=1#post63045

Bill has been just as guilty of this as anyone else...