David Wilcock receives very serious death threat, after Fulford gets kidnapped

[jackovesk]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
Jack:

If this Drama goes on for too much longer, without anything of (Substance) surfacing in the next few weeks - say End of December 2011...

Set aside Fulford alleged capture and Wilcock alleged death threat for a minute.

Don't you find the details laid out in the public domain regarding the lawsuit ... of substance???

Yes, I do but why isn't the likes of Jeff Rense who knows Fulford better than most about reporting on it..?

Why did he show him the door in the 1st place..?

Ben was spouting his stuff on several other radio shows before he came and knocked on Wilcock's door..!

Then all of a sudden 'Kapow' the Drama started...

Its, like we are continually being Dragged On & On with no end in sight...

It's extremely Frustrating IMHO...

[mountain_jim]

Have any of you been to the site David mentioned yet:

http://www.deepblacklies.co.uk/deepblacklies_new.htm

I had been following info about financial corruption for years, but was unaware of this site until today, and it appears on first look to have a lot about the history that Ben and David are referencing there.

[taliesin]

Just listening to it now. The anonymous guy is masking an Australian accent, he's probably of irish/northern irish/scottish extraction hence certain words and mannerisms of speaking are quite effective. But the words that are difficult to mask sound australian to me as do his more "relaxed" phrases.

All feels like a bit of a storm in a teacup. I doubt anything will happen to David, though I can appreciate he is scared. Time to walk his talk. His intent feels sincere and to have integrity, but the rest of it, that FIAT currencies are actually backed by looted gold (hidden in the Mariana trench) and not FIAT at all - ludicrous. I do buy the gold in 9/11 going missing story and the Kennedy bonds/Chinese gold swap.

The lawsuit very well may be real and based in fact, but all this hype around it just sounds like drama and publicity making.

BS radars picking it up, never bought the Fulford personality.

Just my 2 cents.

Love and blessings
xxx T

[take]

A transcript of the interview would be nice. It's hard to hear/understand the "irish" accent at times.. :/

[Calz]

Posted by jackovesk (here)

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
Jack:

If this Drama goes on for too much longer, without anything of (Substance) surfacing in the next few weeks - say End of December 2011...

Set aside Fulford alleged capture and Wilcock alleged death threat for a minute.

Don't you find the details laid out in the public domain regarding the lawsuit ... of substance???

Yes, I do but why isn't the likes of Jeff Rense who knows Fulford better than most about reporting on it..?

Why did he show him the door in the 1st place..?

Ben was spouting his stuff on several other radio shows before he came and knocked on Wilcock's door..!

Then all of a sudden 'Kapow' the Drama started...

Its, like we are continually being Dragged On & On with no end in sight...

It's extremely Frustrating IMHO...

Rense has plenty of detractors ... I stopped visiting his site a long time ago.

Doesn't mean some good material does not come through there ...

Bottom line is that ... "it is what it is" regarding the lawsuit. Wilcock has suggested within the last couple weeks since his interview of Fulford he has come across material 90% of which Fulford has not brought out (being in touch with those bringing the suit).

I feel the frustration regarding information gathering from any source.

Whether or not the lawsuit "goes" anywhere is one thing. The information flowing into the public domain is quite another.

I know if I was a bankster ... I would be a bit itchy about the world's military/intel folk catching wind of what has been going down for a long long time ...

[jackovesk]

Posted by take (here)
A transcript of the interview would be nice. It's hard to hear/understand the "irish" accent at times.. :/

To be Sure..

[Arrowwind]

So, was Benjamin Fulford actually kidnapped on Dec 15? Anyone heard from him?

[Whiskey_Mystic]

Posted by jackovesk (here)


I wish the 'Anonymous Irishman' was a friend of mine..!

Jacko, I'm pretty sure he is. :-)

[joedjemal]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
Jack:

If this Drama goes on for too much longer, without anything of (Substance) surfacing in the next few weeks - say End of December 2011...

Set aside Fulford alleged capture and Wilcock alleged death threat for a minute.

Don't you find the details laid out in the public domain regarding the lawsuit ... of substance???

For me it's not of substance until after the period allowed for response (60 days on the part of the UN) and the evidence is presented without the case being dismissed as spurious. At present it could be any old nonsense, anyone can bring any sort of case, it's what happens with it that matters and for that we have to wait until the 28th of January

[Calz]

Well ... 8:15 am in DW's time zone and still no promised update for "Part 2".

Thought he was pulling an "all nighter" since so much for him personally depended on it (and that could still be the case).

Could be he was simply exhausted and figured his message got out to enough people with Kerry's radio spot ... and with assurance of "protection" that he is sleeping and will update later.

Don't want to add any energy to any other "possibility" at this point.

Be well David.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Posted by Arrowwind (here)
So, was Benjamin Fulford actually kidnapped on Dec 15? Anyone heard from him?

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...953#post380953

viking

[Calz]

Posted by joedjemal (here)

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
Jack:

If this Drama goes on for too much longer, without anything of (Substance) surfacing in the next few weeks - say End of December 2011...

Set aside Fulford alleged capture and Wilcock alleged death threat for a minute.

Don't you find the details laid out in the public domain regarding the lawsuit ... of substance???

For me it's not of substance until after the period allowed for response (60 days on the part of the UN) and the evidence is presented without the case being dismissed as spurious. At present it could be any old nonsense, anyone can bring any sort of case, it's what happens with it that matters and for that we have to wait until the 28th of January

Good point ... but as of now my focus would be on the material being released into public domain as opposed to what (if anything) happens in court.

Legal system (like most everything else) is so corrupt that the only way anything good can come of this is through numbers.

Big numbers.

[Lazlo]

I'm calling BS on Fulford's backstory. The klaxons started blaring when he said that 600 bankers went down with the Titanic, and that they were set up by JP Morgan. It is true that Morgan chose not to board at the last minute...

BUT, There were a total of 805 men on board who were not crewembers. 175 in 1st class; 168 in 2nd class, and 462 in 3rd class.

Of these, 659 men went down with the ship. 118 in 1st class; 154 in 2nd class, and 387 in 3rd class.

Sorry the numbers just don't add up. I'm not buying it that the world's power elite, who were set to stop the formation of the Federal Reserve, were mostly booked into 3rd class, and that the ship was deliberately run into an iceberg. When Fulford is willing to state something so obviously wrong, and that anyone with a computer can check for themselves, and when Wilcock is ready to swallow this hook, line, and sinker: It makes the entire story into a joke. I am not even going to waste my time fact checking the rest of it.

And I said it elsewhere, ANYONE can file a lawsuit, based on ANYTHING, naming WHOMEVER they want as defendants. All it takes is the payment of a nominal filing fee.

If I was so inclined, for about $10, I could file a lawsuit against the Vatican, on behalf of Catholics everywhere, for the return of all of the tithes paid over the last 1600 years, because they lied to us about Aliens.

Filing a lawsuit doesn't make it true, meritorious, or even sensible.

It's this kind of crap that makes the vast majority of the populace dismiss the alternative community as a bunch of tin foil hat wearing crackpots. ARGHHHHH!

[9eagle9]

That's good. The epic drama of the shaman/witch/ psychic battle, witch war only serves to drag people of that ilk back into the game that's been going on since time out of mind . It's a very low level and rather juvenile fourth dimensional mind trap. David W would be wise to follow his own advice and know that if the psychic attempt fails it's forced out into the physical. And so instead of focusing on what is occurring here which is the same old same old, I'd focus on what it's telling....instead of doing. What it's doing is setting a stage for another fear drama, but what is it telling is.....??????

As I like to say, Everything serves my purpose ........if I don't make it self serving.

So we have big dicks swinging with a bunch of covert secret information they don't want anyone to know about because they have attached a great deal of importance on it. It's valuable to them. And someone else finds out the secret covert information and treats it with as much secret covert importance, and places as much value on it as the big dicks and the big dicks get a hard one because someone they don't percieve as a big dick has their big dick information, so on on and on and on and on and on it goes. The Nixon Admin comes to mind here....

If you ever have the opportunity to observe a witch war one could be amused at its Monty Python-esque feelings it evokes in one. One could be amused but for the prevalency of how people who have a potential for something greater tie their energy and authority up in that sort of thing. Mostly what you will find two people clawing at each other's ego fears. And the winner is the one who walks away with the bigger ego because their opponent has fed it by making agreement to feed into that sort of thing.

One's power is demonstrated by not walking into the game, once again. This is not passivity one just rises above the level of where all this hoo hoo is acted out and sees the game for what it is. Resisting temptation as it were, to trip trap into what is essentaily yet another dick swinging contest. And basically the voting and presidential thing is just a physical demonstration of a psychic witch war, inacted out in the 3d world. We know its rather useless but still we keep walking to the voting box. Feeding the belief that we are actually doing something but just feeding the old systems again and again.

This has nothing to do with how I percieve Ron Paul personally. If we want Ron Paul in power we're going to have find a new way of doing things. Meaning we first have to stop intiating in the old way of doing things. If we charterted a helicopter and personally dropped him into the White House that MAY not work but at least it wouldn't be the old paradigm way of doing things.

It would at least be a start, a willingness to demonstrate that we are capable of doing things a different way.

Posted by araucaria (here)

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
Now that is some great advice. Well done.

Serenity

Posted by Carmody (here)

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)

Posted by araucaria (here)
It's not a matter of having a six-shooter and counting your bullets and counting your targets. Just staying focused should be enough to provide a modicum of help wherever it is needed.

I'd forget about what may be happening somewhere on your blind side. If I may say so, you seem to have everyone covered anyway

Writing this, I've just had a high energy cartridge-shaped battery fall over of its own accord just beside me - lookslike I just fired a shot

Well, it's obvious to me you have never been in a "witch" war. Intention and attention play key roles in how things happen. People are much more powerful than they give themselves credit for, and being distracted by a little trash can fire can keep one from noticing the inferno blazing elsewhere or about the be set afire

Absolutely.

I'm still..as I said back with the Whole Charles affair..I'm staying on target. No matter what runner comes flying into the camp with news about any given situation....

....I'm still sitting in the camp, sharpening my sword.

Stay on target.

* * *

The USA's indefinite detention bill just went forward, what, yesterday?

I don’t disagree with you guys. Do it your way. If you can get Ron Paul into the White House, then go for it!

However that is a very diffuse target. You have millions of voters using Diebold machines to sway, and a media blackout to overcome, etc etc.

Also, once your man is in, he may find himself powerless to act. He is going to need help all the way.

Also, this strikes me as a very American solution to a global problem.

Why was the Charles thing a distraction? Because while preaching action he was making sure nothing got done.

Why is the Wilcock/Fulford affair not a distraction? Because it has created a specific focus for action, namely one lawsuit, and the outcome of this single issue will have truly colossal planetwide repercussions.

You are right, I am no witch, but if I had just one choice of a place to push, this would be it.

[transiten]

Posted by joedjemal (here)
I was once threatened by a French security type in Brussels when I went to a sustainability forum and tried to talk about peak oil and food security (an EU thing) It was pretty scary and face to face but I didn't start blubbering, I told him that I didn't care, the issue was too important and had to be discussed. I've always felt a little uncomfortable with David Wilcox's overblown ego but this collapse into jelly because of a third hand threat really takes the cake.

Anyone can file a lawsuit, I'm yet to be impressed by any of this. The threats we face as a species are physical and absolutely real. No matter what the elite may or may not do or wish to do we're facing a dieoff of 90% of us unless there's some sort of miracle. That's what happens in nature EVERY SINGLE TIME when a species goes into overshoot just as we currently are. I'll be less sceptical of all this when we see a bit more than single source drama. Wilcock, Fulford, Zagami, the galactic federation of light, the disclosure project etc etc etc all seem to be about giving hope but there's never anything concrete, it's all vague wierd stuff with virtually nothing real behind it. I don't trust any of it and I won't until we see more hard data and less breathless drama. Sorting out where your next meal is going to come from when the cash machines stop working (an absolutely real, indeed inevitable, problem) is rather more important than worrying about bagging the illuminati.

Oh so you think it's a sign of courage not to be frightened? It's the other way around: To do what you have to do even if you're terrified.

To the three of you that have made dispiseful comments on David Wilcock i would recommend reading "Move into the Magic" by Maxime Taylor. The book is about releasing your programming from childhood. I've been raised as a boy taught not to cry whatever horrors i experienced.

I've finally learned to cry a river and I have the feeling that you guys have not had the loving support you needed when you grew up, programmed with the mantra "Big boys don't cry" using most of your energy trying to control your "weakness" since you are terrified of someone going to use it against you. As Kerry says in the end of the first interview, showing your true feelings is a sign of strenght and a passionate heart not a sign of weakness.

"The meek shall inherit the earth"

[spiritguide]

IRS report on the Obamas being filed.....another piece to the deflation of the cabals.

http://tdarkcabal.blogspot.com/

No place to run and no place to hide!

[YvonneG]

I was very touched to hear David cry...still listening. Thank you Kerry for interviewing him...

much love
yvonne

[RMorgan]

Posted by Lazlo (here)
I'm calling BS on Fulford's backstory. The klaxons started blaring when he said that 600 bankers went down with the Titanic, and that they were set up by JP Morgan. It is true that Morgan chose not to board at the last minute...

BUT, There were a total of 805 men on board who were not crewembers. 175 in 1st class; 168 in 2nd class, and 462 in 3rd class.

Of these, 659 men went down with the ship. 118 in 1st class; 154 in 2nd class, and 387 in 3rd class.

Sorry the numbers just don't add up. I'm not buying it that the world's power elite, who were set to stop the formation of the Federal Reserve, were mostly booked into 3rd class, and that the ship was deliberately run into an iceberg. When Fulford is willing to state something so obviously wrong, and that anyone with a computer can check for themselves, and when Wilcock is ready to swallow this hook, line, and sinker: It makes the entire story into a joke. I am not even going to waste my time fact checking the rest of it.

And I said it elsewhere, ANYONE can file a lawsuit, based on ANYTHING, naming WHOMEVER they want as defendants. All it takes is the payment of a nominal filing fee.

If I was so inclined, for about $10, I could file a lawsuit against the Vatican, on behalf of Catholics everywhere, for the return of all of the tithes paid over the last 1600 years, because they lied to us about Aliens.

Filing a lawsuit doesn't make it true, meritorious, or even sensible.

It's this kind of crap that makes the vast majority of the populace dismiss the alternative community as a bunch of tin foil hat wearing crackpots. ARGHHHHH!

I agree absolutely. Just a lawsuit, by itself, doesn´t prove anything.

Now, IF the this lawsuit is successful, it will prove something indeed, but until there, it´s just a lawsuit, like any of the other millions of ongoing lawsuits.

Lets not allow ourselves to be carried out by sensationalism.

Cheers,

Raf.

[9eagle9]

What is there to be afraid of? What is the actual authentic fear here? It's based on ....what? We know that something has been 'done' but what is actually being told here?

Oh so you think it's a sign of courage not to be frightened? It's the other way around: To do what you have to do even if you're terrified.

"The meak shall inherit the earth"


They already did....lol. And apparently the meek just told David Wilcox they were going to kill him.

[joedjemal]

Posted by transiten (here)

Posted by joedjemal (here)
I was once threatened by a French security type in Brussels when I went to a sustainability forum and tried to talk about peak oil and food security (an EU thing) It was pretty scary and face to face but I didn't start blubbering, I told him that I didn't care, the issue was too important and had to be discussed. I've always felt a little uncomfortable with David Wilcox's overblown ego but this collapse into jelly because of a third hand threat really takes the cake.

Anyone can file a lawsuit, I'm yet to be impressed by any of this. The threats we face as a species are physical and absolutely real. No matter what the elite may or may not do or wish to do we're facing a dieoff of 90% of us unless there's some sort of miracle. That's what happens in nature EVERY SINGLE TIME when a species goes into overshoot just as we currently are. I'll be less sceptical of all this when we see a bit more than single source drama. Wilcock, Fulford, Zagami, the galactic federation of light, the disclosure project etc etc etc all seem to be about giving hope but there's never anything concrete, it's all vague wierd stuff with virtually nothing real behind it. I don't trust any of it and I won't until we see more hard data and less breathless drama. Sorting out where your next meal is going to come from when the cash machines stop working (an absolutely real, indeed inevitable, problem) is rather more important than worrying about bagging the illuminati.

Oh so you think it's a sign of courage not to be frightened? It's the other way around: To do what you have to do even if you're terrified.

To the three of you that have made dispiseful comments on David Wilcock i would recommend reading "Move into the Magic" by Maxime Taylor. The book is about releasing your programming from childhood. I've been raised as a boy taught not to cry whatever horrors i experienced.

I've finally learned to cry a river and I have the feeling that you guys have not had the loving support you needed when you grew up, programmed with the mantra "Big boys don't cry" using most of your energy trying to control your "weakness" since you are terrified of someone going to use it against you. As Kerry says in the end of the first interview, showing your true feelings is a sign of strenght and a passionate heart not a sign of weakness.

"The meek shall inherit the earth"

I wasn't disrespecting his fear, I don't believe his fear is real. I think it's manipulation and I do not respect that.