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    Default Re: Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

    A new thread on the Blue K might be an idea.
    As yet I have no opinion but anything that has the potential to raise consciousness has my interest.
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    Default Re: Nibiru and the fall of man... the coming deception

    Very interesting material. Thanks for posting.

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    Very interesting until one find that it will cost you $199 dollars to find the truth that every one seeks, and of course he has it at a price, even though the red planet is coming, he still needs that money???????????????

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    Default Re: Nibiru and the fall of man... the coming deception

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    Very interesting until one find that it will cost you $199 dollars to find the truth that every one seeks, and of course he has it at a price, even though the red planet is coming, he still needs that money???????????????

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    If you are referring to the inner circle, then yes he charges, but he has a lot of stuff on youtube. You can also just buy his book or join a month at a time which is roughly $20.00 and get the book and access to all his papers which are very valuable imho. I went ahead and signed up because I don't mind paying for someone's dedicated work. If I write and publish a book I would want to be compensated for my time. The book alone is worth $25.00 so I thought it was worth a months membership, and so far I am not complaining. I know if I go to a conference to learn from others I end up paying to go to the event, so I look at it like that in a way.

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    Default Re: Nibiru and the fall of man... the coming deception

    Thanks for posting this. I enjoyed it very much and am going to have to listen to it again. There is a lot of information there. It includes another prediction: 12-24-2011, related to the mayan calendar. But I'm sure due to the recent non-events on significant dates, we'll all have had enough of specifically dated predictions...

    I found this one to be very well done, one of the best pieces I've heard in a while. I'm not sure of course whether any of it is true, but he seems to be a very dedicated man, this Scott McQuate. I had not heard of him before. He appears to be on the up and up and he is certainly very informative.
    As far as I'm concerned though, he could also be an intelligence plant and this message, coming out of nowhere, could then be part of an MK-type operation to frame some sort of ideology. Who knows?

    One of his ideas is that the second coming, or the coming of Niburu comes with a cleansing. The Mark of the Beast is to be removed, that is to say, the Carbon (6 protons, neutrons and electrons) is literally the mark of the beast, goes against the will of 'The Creator' and will be removed, along with the temple of Solomon, the Pyramids and the possibility of sexual reproduction. Our sex organs are to be removed. What will be left of us?
    This might lead into the reptillian idea of being a perfect race without the need to change and to therefore only reproduce through cloning. For instance.

    The interview on the edge am is very strange as well. Close to 6 hours, the first 3 of which seem to not be available and the host Daniel Ott, talks way too much about nothing and does his best to keep the conversation quite narrow, steering it towards survival mode. Is this Ott guy for real? Really!
    I only heard part two (you can easily skip the first 20 minutes).

    At one point he 'traps' McQuate into saying that indeed it is the jews that are the central part of this corrupting influence, having introduced the banking system and being in control of most of our entertainment/information etc. Looking at it that way, there is a case to be made for their removal, according to McQuate.
    We all know that this is one of the things that makes Ahmadinjad seem to be clearly 'evil'.
    I'm not sure whether this anti-semitic stance is central to Scott's views. It certainly seems central to the radio hosts' views, which is why I think McQuate accomodated him there, perhaps. Throughout the interview, it seems he did his best to answer a lot in the affirmative, which I also thought was a bit strange.

    The corruption comes from YHVH, Lucifer, Annunaki, Nephilim, who may have come from Saturn. He's lumping them all in as being the same.
    They took, in Genesis 2, the rib of Adam and created their own creature (us) with the help of the rebellious woman (Eve, Rebecca). Throughout the bible there are stories of the first born being usurped in this way and supplanted by another brother. Even Jesus had a twin that was removed, leaving him to then also be a usurper? Christianity he says, can easily be traced back to Freemasonry, which is known to have Luciferian influences.

    I happened to have been listening to the latest Red Ice conversation with Robert Newman who goes on to explain how Shakespeare, like Mozart is the result of a corporate collaborative effort as part of the creation of the 'myth of the immaculate artist'. That this is part of a larger movement coming from the Phoenicians, going to Venice, then to Vienna and then to London. Most likely, considering the names, to originate from Venus. It is the symbol of the Phoenix, rising from its ashes to grow and grow again until it is destroyed and start the cycle all over again. Boom-bust.
    Obviously this Phoenician movement concerns not only entertainment, but legal systems, financial systems, history-fabrication and in general culture-creation. It's the Babylon system.

    One little suspect thing here is that this Shakespeare story from Newman comes right at the time that a new movie about the bard is coming to theaters (called Anonymous). This is something that is said to happen on History-type channels as well. They release some documentary about whatever thing is going to be featured in a movie around the same time. This can clearly be seen to be part of the propaganda arm of the would-be-controllers, concerted efforts, all in cahoots. This Newman guy just happens to have this book out at this time? Who knows?

    That is more suspect than just selling a book. We cannot just say that someone is not credible as soon as they're offering something for sale. This is not very nuanced and can be shown to be part of a disinfo strategy: If anybody selling their info is suspect, then there can be no professional researcher, effectively leaving no one to tell a credible tale.
    Though in the case of this Scott McQuate guy, I must say, some of his youtubes do look like very slickly done Infomercials. The name of his site, innercircle.us, also easily associates to the free masons again. The fact that there is nothing on the site, unless you register might also raise a flag.
    Admittedly though I am overly suspicious of anything we see in not only the mainstream-, but the alternative media as well. I've been checking out wellaware1.com, which shows that a lot of our news is performed by actors playing various characters... Though grains of salt may be required, the concept is plausible.

    It is interesting to fit the stories of Robert Newman together with those of Scott McQuate.
    The Phoenicians, Venicians, Viennese and surely the Venusians. They are the central problem that we face on this planet.
    But not for long, since Niburu is returning and will perform this cleansing. It is supposed to be a good thing for which we are actually overdue. It is said to revisit us every 3600 years.
    We can possibly also combine it with the Gnostic-type material from John Lamb Lash concerning the archontic energies.

    Another nice detail is that things have been turned upside down, Illuminati-style.
    He says that the plan of the Creator was to create the red human. The Luciferian corruption created the blue man. Blue is now associated with good, while red is usually evil. Look for instance at the color of the eyes of the Transformers...who, I have no doubt, would be a Sirian creation. (The people from Sirius supposedly are associated with creating animated machines...).
    This red vs blue association of today is obviously a falsehood, according to Scott. Consider the royal bloodlines that 'control' us. They call themselves blue bloods. Police force is also blue...
    So if blue is your favorite color, you might have to ask yourself a few questions.
    Or take it with a grain of salt....

    Anyway fascinating stuff, a potentially large contribution to an understanding of the bigger picture. Highly recommended, even if just to hear a possible perspective without it necessarily being true...
    I'm surprised it has received relatively little attention here on Avalon.
    I'd be interested to hear what other people have to say about this material (as well as Scott mcQuate's possible role, Daniel Ott's and Robert Newman's).
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    Default Re: Nibiru and the fall of man... the coming deception

    Hello Elixer,

    Excellent synopsis of the information. I too have my questions and am digging around on the innercircle.us. I am currently waiting for an explanation from Dr. McQuate regarding some issues I have with YHWH being Lucifer or not. His explanation of the creation story is very compelling, and his breaking down the root words all the way back to Sumerian which I have now downloaded the Sumerian Concordance to try to do my own confirmations. I do see the very interesting twist that was done using YHWH as warned of in Isaiah.

    Isa 29:15 Woe unto them that seek deep to hide their counsel from the LORD, and their works are in the dark, and they say, Who seeth us? and who knoweth us?
    Isa 29:16 Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding?

    Basically, what Scott was pointing out was that the scribes played a little letter game with YHWH and it is seen if one goes back to the original Aramaic where the letters were IAUA. Scott then said, the word in Isaiah is not translated right as upside down, but backwards and that it's been a favorite trick of the mystery schools and illuminati to turn things backwards. So, I did a concordance search on upside down in that verse and got:

    H2017
    הפך
    hôphek
    ho'-fek
    From H2015; an upset, that is, (abstractly) perversity: - turning of things upside down.

    H2015
    הפך
    hâphak
    haw-vak'
    A primitive root; to turn about or over; by implication to change, overturn, return, pervert: - X become, change, come, be converted, give, make [a bed], overthrow (-turn), perverse, retire, tumble, turn (again, aside, back, to the contrary, every way).


    I can see where it could mean backwards, so from there we get from IAUA to AUAI and he says that is an anagram. The little tricksters left us with vowels and took out the consonants NNK. So, put in the NNK and we get ANUNAKI. I currently have a message left for Scott to tell me where he got his NNK from or is it his intuition showing him this, which may or may not be accurate. It does offer an interesting insite, goes along with the Sumerian tale of the Anunaki manipulating man's DNA to make a servant man. I found this interesting study by Dr. Scott McQuate:

    The Pyramid

    When we uncover a little history about the Great Pyramid at Giza, you know that it once was covered in highly-polished, white limestone, which actually glowed when the sun hit it, we also find that the three pyramids at the Giza Plateau in Egypt are also perfectly aligned to the 3 stars in the belt of Orion, which is why the Sumerian logograms ‘Kur’ and ‘Eb’, as in Horeb, also mean, ‘Waist Mountain’, in reference to those stars on Orion’s belt or ‘Waist’. When we put the pieces together, we soon find that the pyramid, placed East of Eden by YHWH (The Anunaki), was one and the same as this ‘Angle Mountain’ which ‘Shined every way’, just as described in the Bible as the Cherubim with the Flaming Sword, that did the same.

    The Pyramid at Giza, created by the Anunaki (The fallen angels), is one and the same as Horeb/Sinai/The Cherub with the Flaming Sword. This is also why the pyramid is called ‘Sin-Ai’, or ‘Sin Eye’, because the watchers, residing under it, are watching the ‘sin’, and making ready when they are called upon to eradicate it, for the final time.

    Another reason that the pyramid has been the ‘temple’ of choice, placed ‘over’ these watchers, is that these Watchers also represent the ‘Rib’ that was taken from Adam. Knowing now who YHWH actually represents, and that the Anunaki were the fallen ones, we can deduce that the ‘surgery’ performed on Adam in the Garden, by YHWH (The Anunaki), was not a righteous act, ordained by the Creator.

    The purpose for this ‘splitting’ of Adam to create Eve was to add something to the Rib of Adam. The ‘Rib’ is simply a shrouded reference to Ribose or ‘RIB-o-nucleic acid’, which is the 5-side, star-shaped molecule which makes up one half of the genetic material that comprises our DNA chain. The thing that was added to this ‘Rib’ was six-sided, and is known as a ‘Phosphate’. The word ‘Rib’ in the Sumerian means ‘To be higher in rank’. When the phosphate (also known genetically as a ‘Pyran’) was added to the ‘Rib’ (placed over it), the Anunaki/YHWH broke a spiritual law and usurped the higher authority of the Father.

    This Pyran is a representation of what the Bible calls Remphan (See Acts 7 and Amos 26), and means literally, ‘Saturn’, even in the Coptic (Egyptian) and Arabic languages. Saturn is represented by a six-sided Hexagon on its North pole, and is known for its blueness in color (See Wikipedia etc.). These two shapes, the hexagon and Pentagon, represent the number 5 and the number 6. In the Greek, the number 6 is ‘Sera’ and the number 5 is ‘Penta’, the two of which make up the word, ‘Sera-Penta’ or… ‘Serpent’, as it is referred to in Genesis during the creation in Eden. The pyramids being placed over those who represent the ‘Rib’ (The good angels/Watchers), therefore, is literally the Anunaki’s way of reminding their brethren that they have ‘raised themselves up like God’, AS the Eagle, (See Obadiah 1:4) and have overtaken the RIB. In the old Norse language, incidentally, the man’s name ‘ARN’ means ‘eagle’, and is simply an anagram for RNA, or, RIB-o-nucleic acid.

    The Pyramids, especially the one at Giza, therefore, are symbols of the Phosphate or Pyran, meaning ‘fire’ (from where we get the word ‘Pyramid’, which means ‘fire in the midst’), in our DNA as well as the ‘Cherub with the flaming sword’, as well as Mount Horeb, as well as Mount Sinai. This is why Jacob stated that his son DAN would be a ‘Serpent’ (Sera-Penta) in the way, as DAN is simply an anagram of DNA. The pyramid also represents the Fig Tree itself, as it is the symbol of where the Figs, themselves have been stationed, as the Sentry’s awaiting their call to action, meaning, when they are ripe.

    So, what, therefore, are the ‘leaves’ of this Fig Tree that are the true sign that ‘Summer is nigh’? Click here to go to the next page and find out now, or click here to learn the meaning of this and many other ancient stories that have been covered up for thousands of years, by those who control your world.

    http://www.figtreeparable.com/The-Pyramid.html

    It is very interesting for me because I have studied linguistics for years and enjoy finding new areas to study. This whole new Sumerian transliteration and understanding is definitely causing me to step back and really look at things. I am currently though confused on how this ties together with prophesy, using Israel, the Messiah coming from the house of Judah and being a king / priest if that whole line is usurped vs. just the Kenites moving in and causing havoc. Dr. Scott agrees that Lucifer was the father of Cain, and Adam is the father of Abel and Seth. So, that still causes issues. I have found a lot of interesting stuff on the inner circle and share where I can. I respect Dr. McQuate's right to limit the number of student's he has and his right to also make money from his time and efforts. I posted the above study which is on the web and not just part of the "Inner circle". I must say though that this study is in it's most simplistic explanation as Dr. McQuate goes into a lot more details than this in the book, "Blueprint for Bondage".
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    Default Re: Nibiru and the fall of man... the coming deception

    I am really starting to enjoy delving into this side of the languages. Dr. McQuate may definitely be onto something. Here is another tidbit of information that really starts to make you go, hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

    From Dr. McQuate's page: http://www.figtreeparable.com/The-Language.html

    Esu delivers to his ‘Inner Circle’ of adherents, the disciples, a story that gives them hints of His coming and what signs of the ‘Fig Tree' to look for to know that day is close at hand. Also, these things are said to happen after the Abomination of Desolation is standing in the Holy Place. Although you will likely not hear this from anyone else, I will tell you as a fact, that the Abomination of Desolation A) Is not a person as is taught by the pastors of the churches, today and B) has been standing in the Holy Place for quite some time, unbeknownst to most.

    The Abomination of Desolation spoken of by Esu, is referred to as the bdelygma eramoses in the Greek and simply means the thing that makes desolate or brings destruction. If you attend a church, you would never know what this is talking about, because you would have been led to believe that it is a reference to a person, such as the anti-christ, false prophet, that it is related to a literal 'daily sacrifice' or is a type of statue in the shape of a man, but those definitions are false. If any of those definitions are even close to the truth, it would be the one that likens the Abomination of Desolation to a man, but it would be more accurately compared to a mon, an old word used not just for man, but also for moon, the reason for which you will understand shortly. One of the reasons for these misconceptions that lead to the false teachings, is that Pastors do not know that there was a destruction prior to the flood, in the Bible, and that this initial ‘desolation’ was by fire. This fire is the reason we find the word ‘dust’ in Chapter 2 of Genesis.
    Adam and Eve in Eden Adam was ‘molded’ (Heb. ‘Yatsar’) from this ‘dust’, by the entity ‘YHWH’, but it was not truly ‘dust’. The word for this ‘dust’ is ‘aphar’ (the same root used for the words ‘Pharaoh’ and ‘Pharisee’) and is more accurately translated ‘Cinders’ or ‘Ashes’ in this context. This ‘fire’ was a result of man not being deemed ‘good’ in chapter one of Genesis, by Elohiym, his creators. When we are told at the end of chapter one of Genesis that everything Elohiym made, they saw as ‘good’, it is not speaking about man. Man was not ‘made’ (Heb. ‘Asah’) in chapter one of Genesis, but rather ‘created’, (which is the word ‘Bara’ in the Hebrew), and was therefore not ‘good’, as the things that were ‘made’. Further proof of the resulting destruction of the creation by fire, is the fact that the next words describing ‘God’s’ behavior in relation to this ‘work’, (‘rested’, ‘blessed’, ‘sanctified’, ‘finished’ and ‘ended’), are all more accurately translated, when placed into the proper context, as ‘caused to fail’, ‘destroyed’, ‘exterminated’ and ‘made this work of creating man taboo’(See Strong’s Concordance and Gesenius’ Lexicon for further information).

    I speak about this more in-depth to the members of my Inner Circle, but suffice to say for now, the foundation of what you have been taught has been turned upside down, just as Isaiah said it would be in Isaiah 29:15 & 16; and when the ‘foundation’ is skewed, the whole house is crooked. (This ‘true’ story, by the way, is where we get the story of ‘Cinder-ella’ which is simply a reference to the ‘Cinders of Allah’ or ‘Elohiym’. (Elohiym and Allah stem from precisely the same root in the Arabic language, which is ‘El’ or ‘Al’. Visit my Inner Circle to read my paper entitled The Cinders of Ella and Other Tales of the Pharies which expounds on this issue.)

    The instrument of this destruction of the original Adam or Adama, was the ‘abomination of desolation’ meaning ‘the thing that makes desolate’. These were the same objects referred to by Ezekiel as ‘wheels within wheels’ and they are also inextricably linked to the parable of the Fig Tree.

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    Default Re: Nibiru and the fall of man... the coming deception

    I find this material very interesting! Much like Sitchin but with greater insight and detail. McQuate's explanation of what is meant by "repenting" makes the most sense of this idea of repenting that i have heard so far...

    I look forward to more insights...

    Thank you Unified Serenity for bringing this to the fore!
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    Default Re: Nibiru and the fall of man... the coming deception

    @Unified Serenity - your rhetoric is well versed with your studies to date, but I would challenge you to do some more homework if you have passion for discovering the Truth. If you took the time and have value for your origins and potential future outcomes to this amazing "HUman" experience we are blessed with - then you will be grateful you did so.

    I would challenge you to do some study from revered sources as the the reason the Hebrews refered to "Hashem" before you so easily accept the purpose endowed by so called "learned" experts who pose their "facts" on the web. Far too much evidence in the ancient texts for the opportunity of the contrary being true. Have you by chance taken time to read any of the Qumran Scrolls (aka Dead Sea) or even what is expounded in the Nag Hamadi texts, and possibly referred to better sources of interpretation of such by true scolars of anthropology? The deception runs deep in our history and for good reason. Linear thinking with acceptance of "personal" interpretation of what is currently expounded as the versions of the Holy Scripture could be an expensive mistake - soul speaking that is. Our purpose imo is to become self realised and then engage with the notion of the Divine in a quiet and reflective state to receive insights directly from Divine Source. Difficult if we don't know the name(s) of the Universal Creator.

    What say you regarding the intention and possible implications of the book of Enoch? He had very clear warnings regarding the Watchers. Why were the other 364 texts he prepared for the children of Earth to live by so deftly destroyed (or hidden?)

    I have it on good authority that the Holy word of God is meant to be understood on 7 levels of understanding, hence my invitation to study the subject with more discernment - lest the purpose of that good book is lost in the race for "illumination". Soul Spirit unity is the goal and it is not taught on the net.

    After all - it is ultimately between the Light and the dark.... Understanding the true Cosmology is a noble goal.

    Jest my two cents - and I too am enjoying your research and explanations here - thank you.
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    Default Re: Nibiru and the fall of man... the coming deception

    Hey Sky,

    Thanks for your post. Please don't assume that just because I post something I find interesting I believe it completely in whole or in part. I am a seeker. I have read a great deal of ancient and esoteric texts. I consider myself a mystic and have had many personal experiences which cannot be verified beyond my experiences. I seek wisdom in many places, pray for discernment and do not trust in emotions as we can easily be fooled by what we think we know based on an experience. I have read each of the texts you mentioned. I have read much on magick, ancient ways, old ways, Goddess spirituality, matriarchal, patriarchal history and religions. I have studied ancient history, not so ancient history and see patterns in much of it. I know that at the core I think my existence and learning comes down to one thing and that is to walk in Divine love. It can be a love that is tender and sweet or terrible and corrective. Love has many faces, but I think a key component is seeking the best and doing the least harm if any at all, but some would view harm when it's really a loving act.

    So, I appreciate this forum for the gems that are shared. I always look for more, and continue my search.

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    Default Re: Crop Circle Message From Anunnaki Says Nibiru & Earth Will Collide

    I am an amateur astronomy and I often look at the night sky with my telescope. i have yet to spot this. I think the 10th planets is 'or was' Tiamat. the water planet that was destroyed and collided with earth, and is now the asteroid belt. one must understand I think the Sumerians were telling folklore of their culture of a time past 'not then 6,000 BC' but they were recording what was before. The Annuaki gods. And the 10th planet.

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    Default Re: Crop Circle Message From Anunnaki Says Nibiru & Earth Will Collide

    How can Earth and Nibiru collide when Earth is a Planet, and Nibiru (factually speaking here) are a people? Contrary to popular belief / misconception Nibiru is not a planet, it's a race of humanoids that were created when two other waring planetary races combined through a marriage of their royalty/leaders. Nibiru in it's native meaning, roughly translates out to "of two sources."
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    Default An examination of the Anunnaki and the planet Nibiru

    I feel moved to start this discussion because I so often hear posters talking about the Sumerian gods, the Anunnaki, as if their existence as a race from outer space is a fact. However, from my study of mythology of more than 40 years, plus my memories of a previous lifetime as a priestess of Ishtar in Babylon, plus my experience as a shaman, my understanding of the Anunnaki and Nibiru is very different.

    From that experience, I believe that the stories about the Anunnaki and the 3,600 year old cycle of the Planet Nibiru to be just another psy-ops campaign concocted by a very high level Freemason, Zecharia Sitchin, and created for the reason that all psy-ops campaigns are created, in order to control and dominate the peoples of Earth. The Anunnaki/Nibiru one is very clever, as Sitchin was, for many reasons including:
    1. It piggy backs on one of the most successful psy-ops campaigns of all time, that of a real dying and resurrecting Sun god
    2. It plays on the fact that most people can’t or won’t have time to actually read the texts from the Sumerian cuneiform tablets for themselves

    To elaborate on the first point, in studying mythology, we find that many of the events in the so-called ‘life of Jesus’ had been told many times before, for thousands of years before he was even supposed to have lived. The dying and resurrecting Sun god was an astronomical metaphor for the winter solstice which was passed on in the oral teaching traditions of priest astronomers across Mesopotamia, Egypt, Greece and India when the underwent their Mystery initiations during the Neolithic period (after the last Ice Age).

    So why did the ancients mix up the teachings of science and the teaching of religion? It was because to them, there was no difference. It is only us today who have been taught to separate science from God or spirituality … and we’ve also been trained through Judaeo-Christianity to see God as a sort of angry, vengeful Jehovah figure.

    However, that prevailing view is slowly changing and now there are scientists at the Hadron Collider 17 mile-long tunnel in Switzerland looking for the “God Particle”, in other words, the self-organising principle of all life.

    What they don’t realise it that our early ancestors already knew about this self-organising principle and the ancient Sumerians, Egyptians and Indians called it the Anu. Anu is the oldest word for God or self-organising principle. It is the Spirit at the heart of all matter. And the energetic or spirit products of the Anu (the Children of the Anu) were known as the Annuna, who Sitchin rechristians the Anunnaki.

    Quote Anu (Sanskrit) As a noun, an atom of matter; as an adjective, atomic, fine, minute. A title of Brahma, conceived as both infinitesimal and universal, thus pointing to the pantheistic character of divinity. Hence, every anu is “a centre of potential vitality, with latent intelligence in it” (SD 1:567; cf FSO 273-5, 431). In the Bhagavad-Gita (8:9) Arjuna is enjoined to meditate on the “seer,” i.e., the enlightened, omniscient One, who is “more atomic than the atom” (anor aniyamsam) and yet “the supporter of all” (cf VP 1:2, 5:1; ChU 3:14, 3-4, Katha 2:20, MU 3:1,

    Anu (Chaldean) Supreme god of the Babylonian pantheon, king of angels and spirits, ruler of destiny, lord of the city of Erech or Uruk — later Ur. One of the loftiest of Babylonian divinities, part of a trinity with Enlil and Ea, he was especially the god of heaven, creator of star spirits and of the demons of cold, rain, and darkness. His consort Antum or Anatum was mother of the gods. Anu was the concealed deity; in the Chaldean account of Genesis, he is the passive deity, however, “the primordial chaos, the god time and world at once, chronos, and kosmos, the uncreated matter issued from the one and fundamental principle of all things” (IU 2:423).
    Anu was also the ‘god word’ in Egypt where many priests were named Anu or Anubis, and the city of Heliopolis (renamed as the City of the Sun by the Greeks) was originally named Anu.

    For those who prefer videos, there is a good one here about shamanism and the self-organising principle of the Anu.

    From this, you will see the Anu takes the shape of two vortexes, one upon the other and also known as the double vortex, or ascending and descending dragons. It is also represented by the double pyramid:



    Here is how its double vortical magnetic field supports the Earth.



    In this diagram, you can see how the energy of the double vortex flows in and out, and it forms a doughnut-like shape around its middle, known as a torus.


    I’m sure Zecharia Sitchin was an intelligent man, and so he would have known that nowhere in the Sumerian texts is Nibiru referred to as a planet, but as an Earthly city. Nibiru is mentioned many times throughout the cuneiform clay tablets as a very important city because it is housed a sacred shrine to Anu, the “God Particle”.

    There is also nothing in the Sumerian texts about rockets, other planets or an evil race of Anunnaki who come from outer Space.

    The Biblical story about the Judaic equivalent, the Elohim, often gets quoted as proof that they came to the Earth and made love with the "daughters of man". But this is a metaphor for how Spirit combines with matter ~ another term for electromagnetic energy. In ancient myths, Spirit is usually depicted as the male principle and Matter (mater, maternal) is represented as female. This story is about the act of fertility that is at the heart of the creation which is electromagnetic.

    That Sitchin was part of a psy-ops initiative, or at least one that sets out to deceive, is clear from his omissions, from his made-up translations, from his truncated quotes and extracts taken out of context, and from the amount of repetition there is in his copious, confusing to the general reader and complex Earth Chronicles which could also be an early form of NLP with its use of ‘redundant pattern recognition’.

    When Sitchin was asked to provide references for his ‘beliefs’, he would wave away the enquirier with ‘it’s all in the books’. There are references and a bibliography of sorts in his books, but they are none to reference the more sensational part of his story regarding the Anunnaki coming from Space on rockets or the “planet Nibiru”.

    The Annuna or Anunnaki were known as the Aryans in ancient India, and both are translated to Noble Ones. The Anunnaki or Aryans were the original spirits of the Anu, who taught the shaman priests everything they needed to know for survival ~ agriculture, smithery, astronomy, geomancy, sacred geometry etc. But these Anunnaki/Aryan spirits didn’t come to Earth on rockets to teach our ancestors. Even today (but particularly then) shamans learn from the spirits (Anunnaki/Aryans/Elohim/Archangels) through the shamanic trance known as ‘journeying’. It is not a physical journey. Shamans don’t journey by going ‘off-planet’ but by going ‘off dimension’. Going ‘off-planet’ may be fun, but going ‘off dimension’ is even better because it evolves your consciousness to a higher level in a way that no amount of jump rooms to Mars can ever achieve.

    We can go to Mars, or we can go even to the Pleiades or to the Andromeda Galaxy or Sirius, if we could built a rocket or a jump room to get there. But we would still be in this 3D dimension and, therefore, our consciousness would be the same as it is now. We would stay the same in our consciousness but just be in a different place. However, if we learn to journey like a shaman does to other dimensions, then there is an opportunity for self-transformation and spiritual evolution through enhanced consciousness, as well as a greater understanding about the building blocks of this universe.

    And so this, in my opinion, is the birthright that has been stolen from us by various psy-ops campaigns over the millennia which include Christianity, Darwinism, Western material science, atheism masquerading as humanism ~ and not least this little beaut from Sitchin about the Anunnaki and the planet Nibiru, which will also make a great psychological foundation for any false flag ET invasion they have planned.
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    As a sort of addendum, I’d lke to mention the DVD Thrive.

    In my opinion, this DVD has a lot going for it ... apart from the otherwise excellent Nassim Haramein’s insistence that the sacred geometrical symbols which he has discovered on rocks in Egypt must have been brought to Earth by a superior race of spacemen.

    To be fair to Nassim, he actually says “this is the only logical explanation to me” and I can understand that that would be the most logical explanation to a person, no matter how academically brilliant, but who has never experienced the shamanic journey to meet the extra-dimensional spirits for guidance, information and healing.

    Even today, we receive this sort of scientific information from the spirits. One of my clients is currently learning vortex mathematics from her spirits in order to create a free energy device with perpetual motion.

    That this intelligence and guidance comes from spirits rather than spacemen is much clearer in the ancient Vedic texts where the ‘rishis’ (shamans of India) actually do talk about visiting spirits in other dimensions and learning from them.

    So again, this is why I believe that these ‘superior beings’ didn’t once come on rockets and they aren’t about to arrive here again from another planet in our universe. They are already here and have always been here … albeit in another dimension, or perhaps the term ‘parallel universe’ woud be preferred, and one which is accessible by shamans.
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    I agree with much of what you say, and I also dont put too much stock in Z Sitchens work, and from what I learned he was no expert translator of Sumerian language.
    But The Annunaki were gods in ancient times in many cultures like the Hittites, Sumerians, Babylonians, and Ammonites. They as in religion in myth were god like human in nature. Often depicted as tall blonds.
    The 12th planet etc..I feel is nonsense. I do feel their may have been a planet in teh past like the one that blew up and is now the asteroid belt. So the other planet Niburu may be talk of a past planet.
    I also agree with you on the other dimension and how beings come here, this is what I have came to the conclusion on myself, through study of folk lore, history, cultures and civilizations.

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    Very eloquently delivered theory Ishtar. The advanced knowledge of pyramids and vortices matches very much with visions I have during guided meditations. Visualy Earth appears like a small particle vibrating slightly sending waves in the patterns you've described. I can only collate my own experience with that of your thesis, I'm not saying mine carries validity.

    Great thread too. It's important to wash away the disinfo.

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    But The Annunaki were gods in ancient times in many cultures like the Hittites, Sumerians, Babylonians, and Ammonites. They as in religion in myth were god like human in nature. Often depicted as tall blonds.
    When the shaman journeys through trance into other dimensions he meets beings who we call the spirits, and they are often in human form, and some are in the form of tall, blond human or humanoids. The ancient Sumerians didn't call the Annuna 'gods' and the ancient Indians didn't call the Aryans 'gods' That was just the word of the Oxford classics-trained translators in the early 20th century.

    Even today, shamans draw or make models of their spirit guides, in the same way that the Sumerians and Greeks made statues of them.

    The Oxford scholars borrowed this word from the classical Greeks who called the spirits 'theo' and this was translated by the scholars as 'gods'.

    The spirits were eventually subsumed by religion, and eventually one God, known as monotheism, which was a way of barring the Gate to the Spirits (true meaning of the word Babylon) to the rest of us. Babylon, the Gate to the Spirits, was dismissed as a whore by Judaic priests who made themselves into intermediaries. Only they could talk to the spirits, while we ordinary people were locked out of such a self-empowering experience, for obvious reasons, while being fed stories about ordinary people who dared to venture into the Holy of Holies meeting instantaneous death unless they were one of the Levi priesthood.

    So this is all about control and manipulation.

    Eventually, the priests even forgot how to talk to the spirits themselves .. but luckily, the shamans are remembering.
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    I think your right about how Sitchin has misrepresented the facts, also it has been reported that he had been with the royalties at those inform-us meetings.
    Anu, as you explained is very apt.
    You have applied down to earth facts, I was wondering about what you thought about the tenth planet as it some times referred to, having been depicted in the Sumerian reliefs?
    Non the less I think ET's have been coming and going since the beginnings, we are an integral part, as every thing els is a part to.
    And Sitchin has muddy the waters.
    Thank-you for this thread, I hope more people read it.

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    IYou have applied down to earth facts, I was wondering about what you thought about the tenth planet as it some times referred to, having been depicted in the Sumerian reliefs?
    Could you show me where in the Sumerian texts there is reference to a 10th planet?

    Nibiru is very much an Earthly city, and is never described as otherwise. Sitchin lied about this, and people have been making it all up ever since.

    Also ET means extra-terrestrial or extra to terra, which is Latin for Earth. But the spirits are not from outside Earth or from another galaxy extra to Earth. They are here, and always have been, with us on Earth but in another dimension which is timeless. So it would be more correct to refer to them as extra-dimensionals or EDs.

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    Quote Posted by Ria (here)
    IYou have applied down to earth facts, I was wondering about what you thought about the tenth planet as it some times referred to, having been depicted in the Sumerian reliefs?
    Could you show me where in the Sumerian texts there is reference to a 10th planet?

    Nibiru is very much an Earthly city, and is never described as otherwise. Sitchin lied about this, and people have been making it all up ever since.

    Also ET means extra-terrestrial or extra to terra, which is Latin for Earth. But the spirits are not from outside Earth or from another galaxy extra to Earth. They are here, and always have been, with us on Earth but in another dimension which is timeless. So it would be more correct to refer to them as extra-dimensionals or EDs.
    Again, firmly agree with this. I would also venture these ED's are extensions of our own personal Soul collectives which I percieve to be massive. Timeless as you say, every dimension happening simultaneously, with every shard of Soul personification supporting and dipping into the 3d when required. We seem to be singing from at least the same hymn book. Not that this matters! Just an observation.

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