Using your real name (discussion from a David Wilcock thread)

[Guest]

One of my middle names is Nora...it's quite a common name....

I respect everyone's right to privacy....little by little it has been taken away from us.....

Since the early nineties, I have been stalked by the mib, blk helicopters, even had my own personal chemtrail -by a very quiet med size jet, had my phone tapped, been watched by men in suburbans & blk SUVs and been stalked varies times by who knows what group and by reptilian hybrids and the reptillians themselves.... This is one of the reasons I joined this forum.... I will always pursue and embrace the beautiful precepts of the One.

I also have a family that I love very much....and it would kill me if just one of the above mentioned events happened in their lives. We so have the right to love and freedom.... and to have reverence for and coexist with the earth and in the cosmos.

I know there are true human beings on this forum; I can sense it also I can sense when something is amiss....

I appreciate who and what everyone brings forth.

Love

Nora

We are all related

[Kerrigan]

Posted by blake (here)
I am wondering what your views are on privacy?

I would like to know also.

[Flash]

Posted by Whiskey_Mystic (here)
This makes me angry. Again.

This topic has come up before. Someone who has the freedom to use their real name accuses others of cowardice or lacking integrity. I guess it makes them feel righteous and brave.

My career is my means to achieve tools that I need to create change. It is also my means to quietly steer the media and popular culture. Where I place my name affects that career. Use your head and stop parading around like the integrity rooster. Maybe you are just watching on the sidelines while some of us have higher stakes to protect.

In any case, it's ridiculous. Bill Ryan knows who I am. If you have such a problem with it, well I could really care less. I have work to do.

In complete agreement, I cannot say more than this.

To me, this constant demands for people do disclose their identity on public forums is the work of PTB itself, wanting to destroy our private lifes.

Just see what happened to Alex Collier, he cannot even support himself anylonger, has divorced, live in dire conditions and cannot accomplish his work. As long as his name was witheld from the public, he could work. Lost everything when it went public.

So Darla, I have one question: are you asking us to disclose our identities out of stupid thinking or are you working for PTB?

[Humble Janitor]

I will use a real picture of me but I will not disclose my name. I do not want people stalking me, I do not want governments profiling me and I wish to keep what shred of anonymity there is.

I don't think you know what you're asking for, Darla. What's next? Will we be required to use our Facebook accounts just to post? It makes it easier for TPTW to track us, though they will do it any way they can.

And don't worry about the picture. It was a suggestion from a friend. I am not violent.

[Kimberley]

Wow! Darla's post sure was a catalyst for those that have felt the need to defend themselves.

I brought up this topic of real name vs not real name many months ago... and I know others have in the past also. I do not remember there being such anger and meaness as I just read here?? Wow!

I could not stop myself from adding my 2 cents here, but here goes.....

I hate to break it to you all but if you use a computer that is connected to the internet or you have a cell phone
YOU HAVE NO PRIVACY!!!

End of story!


Much Love!

[9eagle9]

Kimberly.


Bcause the PTB doesn't respect our privacy that means we should follow their example?



....this is how people becoming unwitting agents to them.

So if we have no privacy everyone is perfectly capable of Google searching everyone else.

[STATIC]

why is it so angry in here?
I think everyone should have the right to privacy if they want it.
All points made so far are valid, but I don't think that knowing the exact location of a person will change anything that they have said.
Either in person or online. The words that one speaks reflect upon yourself no matter where you are.
So speak kindly, and be happy

[joedjemal]

Posted by Kimberley (here)
Wow! Darla's post sure was a catalyst for those that have felt the need to defend themselves.

I brought up this topic of real name vs not real name many months ago... and I know others have in the past also. I do not remember there being such anger and meaness as I just read here?? Wow!

I could not stop myself from adding my 2 cents here, but here goes.....

I hate to break it to you all but if you use a computer that is connected to the internet or you have a cell phone

YOU HAVE NO PRIVACY!!!

End of story!


Much Love!

Yep. You must assume that everything you do or say and where you go is or could be known to anyone with the access.

I accepted that when I first started posting on bbs's back in the early 80s. It's why I don't bother with an alias.

[Whiskey_Mystic]

Posted by Kimberley (here)
Wow! Darla's post sure was a catalyst for those that have felt the need to defend themselves.

I brought up this topic of real name vs not real name many months ago... and I know others have in the past also. I do not remember there being such anger and meaness as I just read here?? Wow!

I could not stop myself from adding my 2 cents here, but here goes.....

I hate to break it to you all but if you use a computer that is connected to the internet or you have a cell phone

YOU HAVE NO PRIVACY!!!

End of story!


Much Love!

Please post your social security number. You might as well, right? Isn't that what you are saying?

Yes, I do have privacy. Not from every single person, no. But I'm not going to broadcast by grid coordinates to every person, faction, and agency who can't already get them.

Thanks for your 2 cents. Much Love.

[Unified Serenity]

Posted by Kimberley (here)
Wow! Darla's post sure was a catalyst for those that have felt the need to defend themselves.

I brought up this topic of real name vs not real name many months ago... and I know others have in the past also. I do not remember there being such anger and meaness as I just read here?? Wow!

I could not stop myself from adding my 2 cents here, but here goes.....

I hate to break it to you all but if you use a computer that is connected to the internet or you have a cell phone

YOU HAVE NO PRIVACY!!!

End of story!


Much Love!

Ok Kimberly, send me a pm telling me my full name, address, and phone number if it's that easy. I know that the ptb know exactly who I am. I am not concerned with the ptb regarding my safety because if they wanted to take me out then they would, end of story. If they want me dead I will be dead. It's the wacko's who take umbridge at things I say who are the wild card that I am not willing to just put my information out for all to see or abuse via ID theft. I also have children whom I protect and as said before, family who are in sensitive jobs that do get threatened and I don't want to be a conduit for them to be located no matter how small the possibility via this forum of that happening.

So, what's your point? I also did not see you questioning members truthfulness or honest or right to question whistle blowers, guru's, teachers and book sellers based on if they put their real full name online.

[Davy]

Thanks Darla i agree, I too think when I go to read an about me on someones page and there is nothing maybe a line and then no pic or nothing I find it a bit irritating. I chose to put my real name and hometown, it was a bit frightening at first but it is who I am. Davy Webber is my real name and my about me is about me. Thanks for this post as I do understand why some are to frightened to use there real info but I fell using real names and who you are to me the Truth anything else is hiding for what ever reason. But that is just my Honest opinion.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Kimberley (here)
YOU HAVE NO PRIVACY!!!

I'd suggest not confusing the following two cases:

• A few know a lot about many.
• Every knows everything about every one.

Also do not confuse having a variety of others each knowing some details of your life with having all those others know all those details combined.

[9eagle9]

Well now Darla can look you up in the collective consciousness....

That's where Knoxville is, right?

Posted by Davy (here)
Thanks Darla i agree, I too think when I go to read an about me on someones page and there is nothing maybe a line and then no pic or nothing I find it a bit irritating. I chose to put my real name and hometown, it was a bit frightening at first but it is who I am. Davy Webber is my real name and my about me is about me. Thanks for this post as I do understand why some are to frightened to use there real info but I fell using real names and who you are to me the Truth anything else is hiding for what ever reason. But that is just my Honest opinion.

[passiglight]

Actually i would like to take a proper look at the fear factor involved in this subject,,,,,,,,

i guess it's easier for me,,,,,,,because i don't need to "hide" behind anything,,,,,,,,,,,

just yet

However i must stress there is a need to be open to any suggestion of fear porn,,,,,,,,,i myself am looking into this problem with great keenness,,,

i know for example my ego is completely out of control at the moment,,,( i use that to compare the serenity i had not so long ago to the hyperbole of insecure feelings i currently live with, daily at the moment )

and i feel highly challenged by what Darla has posted here,,,,,,,,,

Challenged enough it would seem to retort to negative postings with regard to a paradigm i have researched inside out and back to front and still know nothing of,,

So Darla please accept my humble apologies for being so blunt and rude with my words to you in a previous post in this thread,,,

and i seriously need to remind myself ,,,,

These times are stressful enough and i need to make sure that i do not contribute towards this confusion,,,

strong energy is required by us all to wrestle subjects like this to the floor, where they should be layed to rest and we can invest no more energy in them..


cosmic love darla and all,,,,,

[Kimberley]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Kimberly.


Bcause the PTB doesn't respect our privacy that means we should follow their example?



....this is how people becoming unwitting agents to them.

So if we have no privacy everyone is perfectly capable of Google searching everyone else.

I decided that I will take this to a deeper level... If someone wants to find you they will and can.

I have been a public figure for 35 years. I used to live in fear/with fear up until I remembered that we are all infinite entities and that we create our own realities.

Fear is a choice and fear keeps a person at a lower vibrating energy. Fear is used as a control mechanism. Fear is the opposite of love. I chose love to the best of my ability most of the time now. When I remembered this my whole life changed for the better and it just keeps getting better all the time.

I also remembered that in the higher dimensions there is no such thing as privacy and that part of the shift happening on planet earth at this time is the move up the dimensional ladder. So I decided that I would practice being an open transparent being while in the third dimension. So I try to speak and act as if everyone can read my mind already. So therefore I live life with nothing to hide.

Respect of privacy has nothing to do with

how people becoming unwitting agents to them (PTB)

it is FEAR that does that.

And one last note there is NO us and them... there is dark and light and every shade in-between. I love the dark as much as I love the light, however I choose to hang out and rub elbows with the light as much as possible.

Much love to us all!

[9eagle9]

Sorry Darla isn't here. Her love and light got her a vacation. But if she had put her walk where her talks is she would left her private contact information for you to be relate your sentiments to her directly .

)smile(

[DarMar]

To be perfectly clear i say:

On this world i was born with debt and they gave me name, surname social number, bank accout and they tryed to steer me in direction they steer masses.
But... I never could accept that game. I dont need things they offer me i need only my own creation. They always do offer but if you take it is you thing.
In my early days i called myself DarMar (explanation is below) this is name I CHOOSED and accept only that. I dont own ID bank accounts i dont own medical rights no nothig they offer. I SIMPLY DONT PLAY THEIR GAME. NEVER WILL.
with proud i collected bad grades at school, with pride i didnt want to learn lies at school and with pride i fallen grade. I dont need that. Dont need name and surname with capital first letter, nor i trained signature..
On end no one can steal my soc.sec. number nor identity cause i dont have one except MY OWN.
On ever documentary, or animation i did im signatured by DarMar, on fb im DarMar in my life im the same. So who dares to say im hiding )
As considering other people arround me im not interested by their names, im interested in their soul and instead of names i remember their eyes. Im interested to support their intention no matter someone label it as bad or good.
I have capacity for love and understanding and have real problem categorizing people and putting them in description boxes. Im not here to enslave nor to support slavery system.

If you ever thought that you can hide on internet behind nick and avatar i must dissapoint you with fact thats simply impossible. No matter what any think of it. Problem is as im not registered in any institution, they really cant gather much data about me, right?
That is not cause im hidding that is because no one owns me except me and period. Thats my decission same as they made theirs and we all have rights to walk our path no matter how one think hes chained ITS NOT TRUE, we are all free if we choose to.

The only thing i can offer is my pic :D


And i really can suggest to stop labeling people from what you think of them, rather ask them what they think they are.

Thank You,
Love

[blufire]

I do not use my real name nor will I post a photo of myself NOT because I fear tptb or any of that sort but because of all the inevitable absurdity will begin and my pm box will fill up and the eventual stupidity will start. I have been stalked several times before and to the extent I got fed up and fired my shotgun over the guy’s truck.

As someone else said Bill, Paul and the mods know who I am and that is all that matters. And “they” don’t give a flip who I am. . . . I am nothing to them and I like it that way.

If I were a public figure such as Wilcock or Bill then yes I would make my real information available because that would be proper and valid. But I do not feel it is wise to become vulnerable to all matter of stupidity in a forum as popular as this one.

[grapevine]

Posted by TargeT (here)
I hate to say it, but Darla's setiment is one of "an older generation" that doesn't understand

This is a very ageist comment TargeT and has no place on this forum. I don't agree with Darla's message in this thread but she still has a right to place it without being pilloried or sidelined.

I don't have any problem with 'outing' myself but I enjoy the whole idea of an avatar and 'handle'. It's all part of the game as far as I'm concerned although I have nothing at all to hide (bit of a faker really - did I spell that right ? ha ha lol - lighten up people, all this hostility and testosterone is really not necessary

[Unified Serenity]

This is exactly how I feel. The arguments said against us who choose not to use that information are nothing but a control mechanism to stop discussion of an area they are not happy at the moment. So, don't deal with the message or psy attacks coming from someone they like, attack the messenger. Subterfuge is getting this in our alternative communities, and there are a lot of agendas being played out. Their representatives are here for all to see. They claim open honesty while we cannot question the original speaker like GFL leader. Talk about hiding! What a crock.

Posted by blufire (here)
I do not use my real name nor will I post a photo of myself NOT because I fear tptb or any of that sort but because of all the inevitable absurdity will begin and my pm box will fill up and the eventual stupidity will start. I have been stalked several times before and to the extent I got fed up and fired my shotgun over the guy’s truck.

As someone else said Bill, Paul and the mods know who I am and that is all that matters. And “they” don’t give a flip who I am. . . . I am nothing to them and I like it that way.

If I were a public figure such as Wilcock or Bill then yes I would make my real information available because that would be proper and valid. But I do not feel it is wise to become vulnerable to all matter of stupidity in a forum as popular as this one.