Planet X/Nibiru/Tyche/Hercolobus/Elenin

[Old Snake]

A point finely made I`d say Ishtar!

When are you going to write them books,

Old Snake

[Ishtar]

Guys, I'm now under personal attack in two other threads where my integrity and reputation is being dragged through the mud on what we're discussing on here. I'm not hard enough and tough enough to stick around and watch that happen, so I'm going to leave Project Avalon. The mods have been very supportive, so I have no complaints about them or how they handled this business. But the way things are, I can't continue on here because the fire fight has got so out of control that some people are now just plain making stuff up about me. So there's no point in me continuing here ...

I thank everyone who I've enjoyed talking to in this thread and in other threads, and I learned a lot from you all, plus I've really enjoyed the company.

But that's all for now...

From the heart,

With love and blessings,


Ishtar

[CdnSirian]

Ishtar why not take a break and come back in a while? Things can change drastically and quickly.

[Ishtar]

Yes, thank you, CdnSirian, since posting the above, I have been talking to others and I've now decided to have a break for a few days and then review the situation again after that.

[trenairio]

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[Ria]

Trenairio, with the research I have done, what has come up is that we the people [Druids and such like] were able to levitate our selves, as well as big rocks etc. There are a number of people that can levitate to day and some native americans, I am afraid I do not have the references at hand to pass on. we have just lost the ability, it seems, but can regain this. apparently.
It is a mater of focus and belief.........we can have fun trying.

[Aetheric Traveler]

Interesting conversation, this.

I'm positive that nobody can be totally right or totally wrong about everything all the time, not Zecharia Sitchin or any Shaman, with the distinguished exception of myself, of course, and of that, I'm not totally convinced either. :>) or should I say, wink wink?

So this brings my question up, why is there a part of the Google Sky program "black censored out" that is supposed to be the coordinates of Nebiru? When I get more time later, I'll dig up the coordinates again to post.

If I had more technical skill on this site, I'd post the screen shot, but I'm still learning. Heck, you can't trust me, I can't even figure out how to post a picture here, yet!

Cheers,
AT

[Midnight Rambler]

Coral Castle has an interesting story concerning cutting and levitating heavy stones. With possibly the knowledge of the ancients...?

Wikipedia on Coral Castle.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=VpFMGfHYUy4

[crested-duck]

Ishtar- hope you come back to find this-Sorry that I did'nt respond sooner, had to retrieve the book mentioned from a freind it was lent to.Here is the info: GENES,GIANTS,MONSTERS AND MEN by Joseph P Farrell-The surviving Elites of the cosmic war and their hidden agenda--CONSIDER THE POSSIBILITY that the history of the human race is not as simple as has been taught in classroom texts. Consider the possibility that the standard scientific explanation for mankind has ignored critical facts that are buried deep within the fossils and mankinds DNA. Consider the possibility that the biblical tales may actually reveal an essential truth about a planet occupied with tyrannical giants and an elite race bent on genetic mutation. This book sets forth a plausable theory revealing a hidden history of mankind and a possible reason why it has remained veiled for hundreds of thousands of years. With his well-documented style and breathtaking conclusions, Dr.Farrell pulls back the veil and takes the reader on an odyssey behind the mysterious history and myths of the human race. Joseph P Farrell is a recognized scholar whose credentials include a Doctor of Philosophy degree from the University of Oxford. His literary contribution is a veritable resume unto itself covering such fields as Nazi Germany,Sacred Literature,physics,finances, the Giza pyramids,and music theory. A renowned researcher, Dr.Farrell is able to condense the best research and draw insightful new conclusions on complex and contreversial subjects.-- note he also authored Babylon's Banksters, the Philosopher's Stone. Happy New Year Come on Back to PA- Lots of folk here still have open minds and the ability to think and reason for themselves. We can all agree to disagree on certain issues,and that's ok too.

[Laurel]

Posted by Deega (here)
In physics, only a few years back, scientists were talking about the smallest particle being the “String Particle” and now a day, scientists in European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN) are searching the “God Particle”, ever changing thing, not an absolute that one have to abide by. So here also, facts are that scientists were not able to factualized the “String Particle”, they extrapolated and theorized, would one say that this is non-factual…?

Deega, it is String *Theory*. Meaning that it is a possibility, not proven to be a fact. No scientists have ever said that is a fact or law. Personally, I think it is an amazing theory. And yes, if we go as minute as strings, there is the possibility of the God Particle and things even smaller. I used to think of infinite as being larger, but it's more amazing on a micro level.

It just occurred to me, as above so below... sky - earth. Why not universe - self? This makes sense with what Ishtar is saying about the truth being deep within us.

Ishtar, there are a couple people on this forum who seem to enjoy tearing apart threads. They work together to gang up on the OP. Most of the time I scroll right past their posts because they are so icky and negative. I am very sorry that they are attacking you personally. Please know that the most outspoken people on this forum are a very small percentage of the readers.

[Deega]

Posted by Laurel (here)

Posted by Deega (here)
In physics, only a few years back, scientists were talking about the smallest particle being the “String Particle” and now a day, scientists in European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN) are searching the “God Particle”, ever changing thing, not an absolute that one have to abide by. So here also, facts are that scientists were not able to factualized the “String Particle”, they extrapolated and theorized, would one say that this is non-factual…?

Deega, it is String *Theory*. Meaning that it is a possibility, not proven to be a fact. No scientists have ever said that is a fact or law. Personally, I think it is an amazing theory. And yes, if we go as minute as strings, there is the possibility of the God Particle and things even smaller. I used to think of infinite as being larger, but it's more amazing on a micro level.

It just occurred to me, as above so below... sky - earth. Why not universe - self? This makes sense with what Ishtar is saying about the truth being deep within us.

Ishtar, there are a couple people on this forum who seem to enjoy tearing apart threads. They work together to gang up on the OP. Most of the time I scroll right past their posts because they are so icky and negative. I am very sorry that they are attacking you personally. Please know that the most outspoken people on this forum are a very small percentage of the readers.

Thanks Laurel for the correction,

Recalled, I think it was in 2009..?, a documentary on PBS, where scientists were explaining how science have evolved through the years, where at that time, they were theorizing (as I mentioned) the smallest particle was "String" and as you mentioned the String Theory. So it is a fact that it was presented, researched, but not yet proven..!, but still, it's an ongoing process to find a truth.

As Einstein said, if we want to change something, we need to have a different mindset than the one we had on something of yesterday. Anthropology, archeology are sciences that hold their interpretation of observations in light of their knowledge (mindset), and if it ain't within the thought process of science it ain't considered.

So, a lot of magnificent things were discovered on Earth through the years but they cannot analyzed it because of their limited research protocols (Mindset). Then, should our science research methodology be reviewed?, IMHO, I would think!

I love your "Universe - self", inclusive and love on all, hmm!, here a new concept that may developped in time...!

Again, thanks for the follow-up.

All the best to you.

Deega

[Ria]

Aetheric Traveler, I have seen the same thing and very interesting, what ever it is, it is not Nebiru as this referred to a city in the original text with no mention of a planet. Obviously something is going on, the PTB are hiding something. and it could be a planet?

Midnight rambler, you could well be right there.

Crested Duck, The book you refer to brings up many things I am interested in. So far what I can gather, from Ishtar is if she has not seen it, come across evidences that supports or can be cross referenced, with bona-fide person. it is not part her land scape. So if a dragon lived in the next house, that for some reason, she never saw, or heard it. It would not exist from her perspective. yet that dose not mean, that the Dragon did not exist, just not in her time frame, from her perspective. So your book suggestion may open up new vista[after some checking]. Given this approach what she dose put forward has a good footing.

Laurel, Good stuff.
Hopefully Ishtar will be up and running to pass comment, on all the above.

[Mercury]

I do think Nibiru is not a planet, but possibly a mother ship. This idea is from reading the book "The Sirius Mystery" by Robert Temple where he suggests many of the sightings of the ship the Nommo used were recorded. Since a large satellite can easily be seen orbiting the Earth, it is possible the ancients did witness a large mother ship at the same time. Were the Nommo and the Annunaki the one and same? I don't know, but I do think visitation in the past happened. To what extent is the mystery, and that is what I hope to find out.

[CdnSirian]

Thanks all above and sorry I don't thank as I go along - I try to retain my concentration and retain as many of the interesting ideas presented as I can.

Ishtar, all of those reading this thread - and those reading the "other" thread wherein Ishtar feels attacked by Unified Serenity-- if either or both of these prolific posters feel attacked and want to leave the forum, ignore each other, eat large portions of humble pie--or --whatever else-- who benefits? Not any of us, IMHO.

Are we in any way being led?

[Mark]

Posted by BestLion (here)
i do tend to think this race of Annunaki are real beings. Who were very smart..likely had a 200 IQ..First Aryans tend to have about a 120 IQ and , Asians 105 IQ, Africans about 80 IQ..

Bestlion, the statements that you are making, including your previous statements about African people being ruled by people who were not African - and being only labors as if that precludes any quotient of human intelligence - are so full of racist conceptions and underlying suppositions that I've been boggled in my consideration about how to even approach it in the context of this discussion. So I will suffice it to state that as we discuss "pseudo-science", some of it when stated as fact does more to hinder understanding than it does help understanding. It would probably be more useful to Ishtar's original thesis to attempt to take the middle ground and speak to the highest attainments and aspirations of humanity rather than engaging in racist tropes such as the above that are based upon statistical manipulations and culturally biased testing methodologies. Also, in the area of archeology, you might want to consider the same when looking to the rulership of peoples across the world, the original, non-racial meaning of words such "Aryan" and considerations that race was not the same back then as it is now, when people potentially genetically altered by extra-terrestrials did indeed have different geneologies or come from stock that originated elsewhere.

This is A DIFFICULT TOPIC TO TALK ABOUT, as I see in the progression of this thread. but necessary, to get to a better understanding.

[trenairio]

yeah, there is opinion derived from outdated Social Darwinism here.

[Ria]

Mercury, The idea that a large mother ship, has come up in a number of places, so I concur on that one. what I find mind boggling is that they can be the size of planets, i.e. like earth.

[Ria]

Rahkyt, Trenairio,
you are both right, regarding Bestlion post. the good points will be over looked.
I, focused on another issue, pertaining to this thread had to go back and see where this was, it had not registered.
It made me think how unwittingly thoughtless I could be.
And how unwittingling thoughtlessness can over look injustices.

[DNA]

Wow, I've just jogged through all of the posts on this thread. Ishtar is a heavy weight writer. There can be no doubt about that.
She has argued some points that border on belief as far as I'm concerned with Sitchen, and I must say she left me considering her take on the situation quite seriously.

Rather than argue archeology and ancient aliens versus ED spiritual beings confused as gods I would rather ask about present day UFOs and ET contact stories.

If you come back Ishtar do you believe in Aliens or ET contact?

[Bo Atkinson]

I love to read about connective issues through human stories. Thanks all so much. Stichin's connective-probabilities always spur my questions. I never expect to trace every hair or inspect every grain of sand. I don't want robotic-smarts or flash-card tricks. Intelligence quotients are just more distractions from real values of our soul potentials. No better than believing intelligence agencies, or believing mental degeneracies. Titillated fear-mongering sure drives the herds. Clannish upmanship boost the fears up to the upsurd. New age hearts of darkness distract too many hearts of love and light. Suffer for our arts.

I appreciate collating the various studies of academia in contrast with extra-matrices and with ET bloggings. It actually took the Constantines two Augusti-emperors before Christian politics really anchored solidly-subversive. Psychos outlawed god-within and sucked the pawns under that Roman yoke of intermediaries and rituals. Prior manipulators of power struggles arguably manipulated the masses almost as badly. All hearts were just as they were, which may always have been 80% supportive, sentimentally, on the surface. Supportive of the status-quo, especially after good bread and circuses. Sucking people into cities to banish human-to-earth connections. Banish the natural inborn instincts to learn through nature. Banish personal thought developments , like cream on top.

Not to disparage, but only to contrast thoughts: I even think that all the computer data switching and most related wizardry was potentially derivable from earth-human potentials directly. Fully interchanged tech transfers from ETs or EDs was not utterly required. For it to have ever occurred, ever. Nevertheless the stolen-tech-archeology and the fallen-angel-analogies were all interesting to study. Furthermore, 'channeling' to me is simply an over-widely-used word. Where our actual experience may indeed function by way of specific frequency settings. Advancing heterodyning skills can take us beyond. Spend another day with free will.