David Wilcock calls James Martinez a hoax!

[Mutchie]

Is it just me whos picking up this vibe that a lot of people seem to think David is a serial drama queen ??? i dont know the man personally so im not at liberty to express a serious viewpoint but from the posts i have been reading it seems that some think its all make believe and maybe thats due to his emotional episode because it seemed like a lot of folks were saying he shouldnt of been allowed on air in that obvious state its a hard one we are all different i suppose regardless i hope he is truly safe now !!!

[Sirius White]

None of these people can lead you out of any mess.

They are all being pulled as strings accordingly to a greater plan. Those who get lost in their ego and veracity to claim what is true and what is not will fall behind.

Indeed we must tread carefully, open minded with honed discernment. There is nothing that is "for certain" at this point. Just hang onto your bootstraps and set your intention on as much awakening as possible.

[gripreaper]

Now Fulford is calling the Conscious Media Network / Martinez announcement a psyop!

Hi Ben,
I was very surprised to see that you didn't mention the big announcement of the new financial system in your last newsletter.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=lDzB4...ature=youtu.be
Would you be so kind as to let me know why you have chosen to not communicate this major news? It's very good news, I think, and it validates what you've been saying all this time. Please advise. Thanks Ben, and much love, respect, and appreciation to you for all you have done. Happy 2012!


Hello,

The Conscious Media Network announcement was a psy-ops put out by the old world order fascists. It is not real. That is why I did not mention it. The war over the future direction of our species and planet is unfortunately not yet over.

http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/

Let the games continue!

[Raven]

you could plant them in trays of little pots in your window inside house - that is what we do in west coast, Canada

[wolf_rt]

Really the key point with any of this is DON'T GIVE AWAY YOUR POWER.... then you wont get stung!

[Kristin]

All in all, I think that David is a good guy but he's not perfect. He's not in his comfort zone. Calling out JM is a strange reaction from him. This reaction is based on the opinion of the people he is representing right now. The question for me is not if I trust David Wilcock or Fulford, but if I trust the Dragon Family.

I think there are two factions here. Perhaps David is vocally (with Fulford) representing one and James is representing another. White hats / Black Hats? Could this be the very thing that Duncan was speaking of... that many from both sides are now on the same page? Calling one a "Hoax" does not help matters much. What is interesting over all is that things are moving and moving fast. There are many law suits out there about bonds these days, and that is understandable. I'm not at all surprised. These are the times we live in.

What I do find interesting is that JM has a certain amount of credibility. He's been working with people in this sector for many years and it makes sense to me that he would be representing them as a voice. Apparently they have a plan. One that makes me alert, itchy, and has my ears perked.

Now the itchy part is "One World Currency". Now I need to think about that. My issue is about who will control that currency. Will the power be given back to the PEOPLE? That is why we need to look at this issue clearly and without emotion when it is presented. It is such a trigger for all of us, including myself. I want to see very accurate documentation that is clearly spelled out and that can be used on an economical level to site projections. Anything less then that would be a disservice to humanity.

We are all afraid that our currency, no matter what the paper looks like, is in the hands of the international banking cartel. Well with good reason, it is. When the words, "One World Currency" are used it is easy to equate this term with "Slavery" as that is the norm for us right now. Turning the worlds monetary systems over would cause quite a stir, there would be negatives as well as positives. A positive might be that we could all have the freedom to think about employment anywhere on the globe without too much hassle, the negative on this is that there would be a mass movement of people on a planetary level coming and going looking for jobs everywhere, it would be chaos for a time. But would the playing field eventually be levelled out? This is just one example... there are too many. This is a complex issue. But we also need to look at the truth that something needs to be done and no matter what the medicine, uncomfortable times are ahead. I think we all know that and many of us have been preparing for it for a long time. I would suggest that you do so if you haven't yet.

In conclusion to this, I will be taking a look. A deep look. I want to see what it is that we are being presented with using open eyes. That is all. I must be willing to listen and trust myself that when I see foul I will cry foul. I do trust myself. I trust that I'm an intelligent enough person to figure this out. I trust that I will not toss something aside because it makes me afraid and uncomfortable. I need to calmly take a look at the facts presented. Right now there is nothing to go on. So I will wait. I am glad that some big ideas are being presented. This is a good thing. Whether or not they are the best ideas or realistic is yet to be seen.

From the Heart,
Wormhole

[onawah]

Who are the "little people"?
The 99%, which is a much more respectful term!
I like what Omnec Onec said, which is that we will have to create our own currencies and our own economies.
( see: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...851#post394851 )
This is starting at the grass roots and is a lot of work, but I think it needs to be done to keep things honest and real.
The high stakes players are clever and have too many resources to play with, as well as lots of experience in how to make things go their way.
There is too little transparency when business is conducted on such a large scale by a few very powerful individuals and groups.
How can we know whether to trust them or not?
What we CAN trust is when we do it ourselves, and the kind of energy which that creates is contagious and synchronistic, and it propagates itself through the enthusiasm and good will of the people taking the power back into their own hands.
Perhaps it can't ALL be done that way, and doesn't need to, but it's a good way to start and to create a fresh, honest new energy and outlook that is strong enough to spread and revolutionize the whole system in time.
Time Banks and local currencies, non profits, credit unions, local farmer's markets and lots of other small groups that can work together cooperatively with the same goals are what we need more of.
There was a lot of momentum being built up in this direction earlier in 2011, and then it seemed to get a bit squashed, but it's time for a resurgence, IMHO.

See the thread at:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...281#post395281
for a description of the kind of pure intent I am talking about.

[Kimberley]

*****************************

I am not sure everyone is understanding this information.... FYI Ben Fulford is in agreement with David Wilcok according to this message below from Ben on his blog page posted today.

Found here: http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/

Posted by gripreaper (here)
Now Fulford is calling the Conscious Media Network / Martinez announcement a psyop!

Hi Ben,
I was very surprised to see that you didn't mention the big announcement of the new financial system in your last newsletter.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=lDzB4...ature=youtu.be
Would you be so kind as to let me know why you have chosen to not communicate this major news? It's very good news, I think, and it validates what you've been saying all this time. Please advise. Thanks Ben, and much love, respect, and appreciation to you for all you have done. Happy 2012!


Hello,

The Conscious Media Network announcement was a psy-ops put out by the old world order fascists. It is not real. That is why I did not mention it. The war over the future direction of our species and planet is unfortunately not yet over.

http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/

Let the games continue!

[Kimberley]

************************


And for the record here is a correction from Ben

I apologize for calling Harry Elisabeth's son. He is the grand-son.

01/03/2012
Latest Update

Hi Ben, I trust this finds you well? I have a couple of points to make. Firstly with regards to Queen Elisabeth she has three sons, namely Charles, Andrew and Edward. Harry is Charles's son. The succession on the throne would be Charles then William (his son) and then Harry as things stand so it does not make sense what is being stated in your latest update. My second point is regarding demonstrations in the G5 nations, we have seen these happen already in the UK with regards to other issues such as the Iraq war and they have achieved nothing. I am not convinced they will do so in the future unless the masses have solid reasons and proof to do so and even then I have my doubts. Who is going to tell the masses the truth? Certainly not the media? Can you comment on my observations? All the best Paul.
Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
__________________________________________________
First of all, I need to apologize for calling Harry Elisabeth's son. He is the grand-son. The reason they want Harry and not Charles or William is that Harry's father was a commoner, Diana's riding instructor. Furthermore, Diana is of the Spencer bloodline which is British and not German like the Battenbergs (who changed their name to Windsor). However, Diana also had Rothschild blood.
The demonstrations planned for next year will be more spectacular than what has been seen so far. The organizers are waiting for the warm weather and for the economic situation to get more critical

. (from Ben)

Found here: http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/b...st-update.html

[Kristin]

Posted by onawah (here)
Who are the "little people"?
The 99%, which is a much more respectful term!
I like what Omnec Onec said, which is that we will have to create our own currencies and our own economies.
( see: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...851#post394851 )
This is starting at the grass roots and is a lot of work, but I think it needs to be done to keep things honest and real.
The high stakes players are clever and have too many resources to play with, as well as lots of experience in how to make things go their way.
There is too little transparency when business is conducted on such a large scale by a few very powerful individuals and groups.
How can we know whether to trust them or not?
What we CAN trust is when we do it ourselves, and the kind of energy which that creates is contagious and synchronistic, and it propagates itself through the enthusiasm and good will of the people taking the power back into their own hands.
Perhaps it can't ALL be done that way, and doesn't need to, but it's a good way to start and to create a fresh, honest new energy and outlook that is strong enough to spread and revolutionize the whole system in time.
Time Banks and local currencies, non profits, credit unions, local farmer's markets and lots of other small groups that can work together cooperatively with the same goals are what we need more of.
There was a lot of momentum being built up in this direction earlier in 2011, and then it seemed to get a bit squashed, but it's time for a resurgence, IMHO.

See the thread at:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...281#post395281
for a description of the kind of pure intent I am talking about.

I agree whole heartedly. Hard though for international commerce however. Though I would think that we really need to be locally producing what we need anyway. It comes down to: Should we create something that is inclusive of everyone on the planet, or deal with things on small local levels. How do we secure a basis for trade without a standard? Even between counties or states let alone internationally. It's an interesting question. I've participated in a local currency system before. It works great, and I mean GREAT but only if you live there. If you are visiting for example there is a lot of questioning... can this be done with the availability of a standard that everyone can tap into and what should that be?

Thanks for the thoughtful post, it's time we all started to have this conversation for real. WE CAN create our own banks, currency, and really anything we need without the interference of financial sharks. It is going to be interesting to see what the proposal will be on a global level.
From the Heart,
Wormhole

[Ba-ba-Ra]

Lots to consider, but I encourage all not to take sides. I agree that this is not about trusting Ben, David or James, but rather the groups behind them. Clearly they each trust the Group they are in contact with, but any of them - or all of them for that matter could be being duped.

Best if we stay grounded, listen to everything being presented and defer from arguing among ourselves. Instead let's use our energy constructively and hold a vision for what could be possible, while we cautiously listen to everything that's being presented to us.

[Kimberley]

Posted by Ba-ba-Ra (here)
Lots to consider, but I encourage all not to take sides. I agree that this is not about trusting Ben, David or James, but rather the groups behind them. Clearly they each trust the Group they are in contact with, but any of them - or all of them for that matter could be being duped.

Best if we stay grounded, listen to everything being presented and defer from arguing among ourselves. Instead let's use our energy constructively and hold a vision for what could be possible, while we cautiously listen to everything that's being presented to us.

YES ! YES ! I am right there with you on this!!!
Much love

[Kristin]

Posted by ba-ba-ra (here)
lots to consider, but i encourage all not to take sides. I agree that this is not about trusting ben, david or james, but rather the groups behind them. Clearly they each trust the group they are in contact with, but any of them - or all of them for that matter could be being duped.

Best if we stay grounded, listen to everything being presented and defer from arguing among ourselves. Instead let's use our energy constructively and hold a vision for what could be possible, while we cautiously listen to everything that's being presented to us.

absolutely!!!

[onawah]

More about this at

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=wKhd614IqZo

which Eaglespirit posted on the Up at the Ranch thread:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...383#post395383
but also applies to this discussion, and any discussion about marketing advanced technologies.

Posted by Wormhole (here)

Posted by onawah (here)
Who are the "little people"?
The 99%, which is a much more respectful term!
I like what Omnec Onec said, which is that we will have to create our own currencies and our own economies.
( see: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...851#post394851 )
This is starting at the grass roots and is a lot of work, but I think it needs to be done to keep things honest and real.
The high stakes players are clever and have too many resources to play with, as well as lots of experience in how to make things go their way.
There is too little transparency when business is conducted on such a large scale by a few very powerful individuals and groups.
How can we know whether to trust them or not?
What we CAN trust is when we do it ourselves, and the kind of energy which that creates is contagious and synchronistic, and it propagates itself through the enthusiasm and good will of the people taking the power back into their own hands.
Perhaps it can't ALL be done that way, and doesn't need to, but it's a good way to start and to create a fresh, honest new energy and outlook that is strong enough to spread and revolutionize the whole system in time.
Time Banks and local currencies, non profits, credit unions, local farmer's markets and lots of other small groups that can work together cooperatively with the same goals are what we need more of.
There was a lot of momentum being built up in this direction earlier in 2011, and then it seemed to get a bit squashed, but it's time for a resurgence, IMHO.

See the thread at:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...281#post395281
for a description of the kind of pure intent I am talking about.

I agree whole heartedly. Hard though for international commerce however. Though I would think that we really need to be locally producing what we need anyway. It comes down to: Should we create something that is inclusive of everyone on the planet, or deal with things on small local levels. How do we secure a basis for trade without a standard? Even between counties or states let alone internationally. It's an interesting question. I've participated in a local currency system before. It works great, and I mean GREAT but only if you live there. If you are visiting for example there is a lot of questioning... can this be done with the availability of a standard that everyone can tap into and what should that be?

Thanks for the thoughtful post, it's time we all started to have this conversation for real. WE CAN create our own banks, currency, and really anything we need without the interference of financial sharks. It is going to be interesting to see what the proposal will be on a global level.
From the Heart,
Wormhole

[etm567]

Posted by Zillah (here)
Just a quick thought regarding David Wilcock's position in all of this, his blatant finger pointing when he was just under horrible scrutiny for his "outcry" --

When Fulford, or Wilcock or whomever announces they are in contact with the elite, THE ELITE - the people on top of it all - it loses me right there and I'll tell you why...

If I was truly on top of this game, or had the ultimate say as a global or universal elitest/higher power/whatever - do you think for one moment I would reveal myself? Most certainly not to David Wilcock (and please I mean no offence).

Too much information too soon, in the wrong hands or in too many hands will kill any plan. This is why I believe this "annoucement" came so bare bones - do you think we're ready to know all just yet? Look at how we're handing ourselves so far - quarreling and in full fear that we might be dooped. Its why we're getting only pieces so far, humans like to pick at things to death before it can even manifest itself!

Excuse me, but -- and in many points I am in total agreement with you -- but David Wilcock does not say he is in touch with "elites." He says he is in touch with "insiders," and they may be just people who work in positions that put them inside that system. Many of them are scientists of various kinds. To be hired by the secret government one doesn't have to be a member of the elite, one just has to have some skill set and ability that they need and want.

But the fact that he is relying on insider information does not comfort me, either. They can be conduits for disinformation, or they themselves can be recipients of disinformation. There is just no way to know.

So I'm with Steve on this: The Monaco Accords people may not know about who talked to James Martinez, but that doesn't mean it is a hoax. Everybody doesn't necessarily know what everyone else is doing in this. Those on the strictly human side, which seems to me to be what those behind the Monaco Accords are, essentially, are not necessarily privy to what any extradimensional beings of any kind may be doing on our behalf.

So, I'm left with I'll just have to wait and see.

ETM

[aranuk]

The way I see it is thus: David Wilcock and Ben Fulford say they have been contacted by "Representatives" of 120 or so nations leaders who have told them certain things that they want to be made public. James Martinez says something similar that he has been told by "Representatives" of the leaders of 130 nations leaders that THEY want to be made public. The "representatives" seemed to choose three different public individuals who are alternative media spokesman to get their message accross to the alternative public i.e. You and Me. They maybe are all telling the truth as they were told it. It doesn't have to mean one group is right and the other is wrong does it? The thing that tickles my curiosity is that why is the alternative media and alternative public being informed about all this? Are we being chosen because we are the truth seekers and we should know first? If so why? Why not the mainstream Media. Is it because they would not report it? Maybe? Are we the only ones listening? I think we ARE.

Stan

[DreamsInDigital]

The thing with James Martinez as Ben pointed out on his blog this most recent one. The James Martinez information is disinformation and he is being manipulated by The Global Elite for their attempts to "soften the impact" of what is coming.

Also, the Alternative News media and it's followers are less prone to panic and "lemming" type behavior 'vs' those that follow MSM. So it makes absolute sense they would break it to the "yeah, okay, and then what?" crowds with it trickling over to the "OMG! I'M GONNA DYE THE WORLD'S GOING TO END" crowd.

[aranuk]

How can one tell which group has the dis-info? Just because Ben says so doesn't in my opinion mean that this is so.


Stan

[DreamsInDigital]

Kerry Cassidy and also Wilcock are saying the same thing. I would say despite Kerry's alliance with Wilcock, I would consider HER a independent in this situation. Ben, gave his information on it and that Martinez was being manipulated by the Cabal, in his update on his latest blog. There is a thread with the latest one...don't know why it got put in the conspiracy board but it's there. But, even I am going to say I'm with Ben, Kerry and David and others here and say that Martinez at least when it comes to this situation can not be trusted to be forwarding reliable information. And, really. Why wouldn't the Cabal use this kind of tactic? Martinez is supposed to be a trusted source for reliable information. So it stands to reason he would be one that they would manipulate and use to "throw people off". Kerry even says that in this situation, her sources and her all believe that Martinez is being manipulated / used. When the story is fully investigated through multiple sources it becomes very clear and obvious this is the case. That from Martinez is disinformation, he is being manipulated for personal gain by the Global Elite / Cabal in this situation and can not be trusted on this specific situation.

[mountain_jim]

It is neither clear nor obvious to me what is info or disinfo in this larger story. And I have been following Fulford, Wilcock, Chris Story, and White Hats reports of financial system corruption and from other multiple sources for years. Only the lawsuits filed are verifiable to me so far, all reports of nations agreeing to change financial systems still remain unproven based on what I have read, and many things Fulford has stated in past have not been proven either.