Benjamin Fulford's posts and reports

[Elixer]

It's most likely not disinfo on Fulford's part. I don't know Japanese so I can't know if he is properly informing the Japanese people. Other than that, he is a reporter, offering a platform to an Illuminati insider. "We report, you decide.", you know.

The perspective offered by this insider perhaps, is disinfo. He says the secret the true Illuminati have been keeping, is that the Abrahamic god is not a god at all, but in fact is Satanic.
This is strange because Satan means Adversary. Satan is always the opposer of the ruling order. Right?
In light of this definition, this guy is actually Satanic, since he is opposing the Abrahamic god, which is the one most religious people would believe to be their deity.
So definitely confusing there.

If you're part of a 14 thousand year old order, like he says he is, you know the difference between Satan and Lucifer. (Then again, maybe I was misinformed)
I think that is the message most people would take away from what he says: What you think is your god, is actually the devil. But he doesn't say it.

He says all the holy books is 'nothing but lies'. Now that is blatantly untrue. There may be lies contained within, but it is not 'nothing but lies'.

So, from my point of view, illuminati styly all the way. Discordianism at its finest?
He makes some interesting hand gesture around 4:20... Not sure what it means, if anything, but you know people are going to be looking out for that kind of thing.
It's really just a book-plug.

Fulford does seem to be on good social terms with this guy, but that doesn't need to mean much.
Freeman is practically friends with Rex Church, the leader of the Church of Satan. That doesn't make Freeman a Satanist. (There might be other things that make him so, but I think only in line with the 'adversary' definition).

[lightseeker]

Things are becoming more interesting every day! Smoke and Mirrors! What to believe and what not to believe. At the end of the day, I chose to go within myself and trust my own connection to ONENESS. This helps keep me grounded .

[Chucky]

Just my opinion here and that is you know Alex Collier summed up the making and reason for religions. He stated that religions as a whole should of died out over 400 odd years ago. They have been artificially kept in force by changing scripts and words here and there to create the very rules we are slaved to by this belief system.
He explains this pretty good and it does seem to fit that everything is just a belief system. These are designed now to hold us back from whom we are as a race. It rings truth to me.
Another point is you can not have one religion with out another that keeps the peace so divide and conquer means opposing religions needed to be in place. It could be a clue to why today Muslims and christians are at eachothers throats. I do believe reincarnation was in our bible at one stage and was removed so people believe we live once and go to hell if we ain't goodie 2 shoes. Makes sense for control using fear. My opinion only of course. This makes sense for fulford telling the world so people may start to see the sense in lies in our religions. Remove the power of our belief in this and we can open our eyes further to tell the powers in charge to get the hell off our planet or elase. Their fear of hell will come a knocking.

Posted by Elixer (here)
It's most likely not disinfo on Fulford's part. I don't know Japanese so I can't know if he is properly informing the Japanese people. Other than that, he is a reporter, offering a platform to an Illuminati insider. "We report, you decide.", you know.

The perspective offered by this insider perhaps, is disinfo. He says the secret the true Illuminati have been keeping, is that the Abrahamic god is not a god at all, but in fact is Satanic.
This is strange because Satan means Adversary. Satan is always the opposer of the ruling order. Right?
In light of this definition, this guy is actually Satanic, since he is opposing the Abrahamic god, which is the one most religious people would believe to be their deity.
So definitely confusing there.

If you're part of a 14 thousand year old order, like he says he is, you know the difference between Satan and Lucifer. (Then again, maybe I was misinformed)
I think that is the message most people would take away from what he says: What you think is your god, is actually the devil. But he doesn't say it.

He says all the holy books is 'nothing but lies'. Now that is blatantly untrue. There may be lies contained within, but it is not 'nothing but lies'.

So, from my point of view, illuminati styly all the way. Discordianism at its finest?
He makes some interesting hand gesture around 4:20... Not sure what it means, if anything, but you know people are going to be looking out for that kind of thing.
It's really just a book-plug.

Fulford does seem to be on good social terms with this guy, but that doesn't need to mean much.
Freeman is practically friends with Rex Church, the leader of the Church of Satan. That doesn't make Freeman a Satanist. (There might be other things that make him so, but I think only in line with the 'adversary' definition).

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Reckon thats it. Intuition is seems to be the key.

Posted by lightseeker (here)
Things are becoming more interesting every day! Smoke and Mirrors! What to believe and what not to believe. At the end of the day, I chose to go within myself and trust my own connection to ONENESS. This helps keep me grounded .

[Tony]

This is why logic and reasoning is so important.
Everything must stand closer investigation.
Cutting through our own concepts is of paramount importance, because these concepts....may not be ours!

[Kindred]

This rings true to a certain extent. The Thiaooubans have stated much the same.. that All religions have been used, just as money has been, to control and manipulate the population, and to hide the True Nature of the human spirit, and it's connection with Source. That these religious texts, while containing Some truth, have been twisted and embellished to support the ruling classes in their conquests of the human spirit.

The most interesting aspect of this Illuminated One's dialog was his admonishment that the Illuminati and the Controllers are separate and distinct entities, with the Illuminati being the 'bearers of the truth'. This is Most 'illuminating', if indeed, it holds true. Somehow, methinks there is much more to this 'story' than is being disclosed here.

In the End, Each of Us must seek Enlightenment Within, Not from Without.

In Unity and Peace

[Tony]

Maybe something to remember,is that those who want control use natural occurring events.
This being humans seeking their true nature. All they need to do is misdirect our consciousness.

Well, that is not jolly well going to happen....if we have anything to do with it....right!!!!! 'nuf said.

[jackovesk]

Posted by lightseeker (here)
Things are becoming more interesting every day! Smoke and Mirrors! What to believe and what not to believe. At the end of the day, I chose to go within myself and trust my own connection to ONENESS. This helps keep me grounded .

Bingo we have a Winner, well said lightseeker...

As for Benny Fulford he's got to up there as one of the best 'Free' entertainment personalities on the internet...

[gooty64]

I wonder if Fulford is info or dis-info...

Really bad vibes coming from Fulford and friends- like Zagami, and Romanov.

If Fulford is a good guy, well he has had to become like them to infiltrate them. If you are buying into it.

If it was up to me, I would banish all of them to another planet with the mean, greedy ones and let em' duke it out over there.

All it would take to sort em' out is a really precise **** detector.

Then we could have our planet back and go from there.

Then when could have our planet back -already.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=9gC2y6_aAIg

[ceetee9]

I find nothing Earth-shattering here for me. I've believed for most of my life that religions were established to control the masses through fear and ignorance. When the religious "leaders" couldn't answer an eight year old’s simple questions and discouraged further inquiry by invoking their "you just have to have faith" mantra, for me at least, the response was unacceptable and it told me that all was not right with this religious stuff.

In my opinion, it makes absolutely no sense for the Creator of all that there is to wait thousands of years to dictate "His Word" to dozens of specially chosen ones only to have "His Word" reinterpreted, mistranslated, and edited over hundreds of more years and then disseminated to the masses via multiple—and often conflicting—organizations when, most certainly, He could impart what He wishes unmodified and directly to each and every person on the planet. Nor does it make any sense for a Creator that espouses unconditional love, compassion and caring for all of His creations to use fear and threat of torture and eternal damnation for those who do not bow down to Him and follow His every wish and desire—like one might do to keep from being tortured or killed by some maniacal dictator.

I believe we are all sparks of the Creator and, as such, have a direct line to Him that is accessed by looking inward and not outward. I believe, deep down, we all know what is right and what is not and that truth is found within if we just look.

[Stuart M.]

etm567 in all honesty it was merely an observation of how quickly and decisively that Guyatt guy's comments ended the thread.
Ya , he said the work was important and didn't like that the author had interjected propoganda. My whole point being that to get to what really happened and the intent of the people involved will be one drawn out process. And even at the point of what might seem like a conclusion, I feel the chances of really knowing the actual truth are slim. Any way, I think fortunes of gold were stolen, but at this point of the game I think there is more value in watching how peoples conclusions are drawn from the timing and placement of info, and the intent, vs the 5 w's. Hope that claifies where I was comming from.

[christian]

Some alleged insider telling the 'great secret' that organized religion is a hoax and a fraud to enslave people, without backing it up but advertising his books, wow...

On top of this being superfluous, it is an illegitimate oversimplification that doesn't do justice to all the chunks of real wisdom contained within the holy books of the abrahamic religions, which can be an anchor for lots of people in difficult times.

[Second Son]

All you have to do is read the old testament to know beyond any doubt, that Yahweh is actually Yaldaboath... a psychopathic demi-urge. Obviously the same goes for Allah, as well. ALL religions have been installed here as a control mechanism... even Buddhism.

I challenge anyone here to read the old testament, AND THEN look at the modern day genocide which can also be attributed to followers of these so-called "gods", and then tell me we are actually talking about a loving God. It's pure hogwash... always has been, always will be.

But I don't expect the sleeping, dumbed-down masses to wake up anytime soon, so maybe all of these methods of control are desperately needed in a world full of ignorant people, most of whom are willfully so.

Was that gentle enough?

[Second Son]

You need proof, chiquetet? Have you turned on your TV lately? Do you realize that every armed conflict, whether religious in nature or not, is funded with the monies generated by these armageddon cults. Who originally ordained that the jews be the world's money lenders, giving the Rothchilds et al, such wealth and power? The early Christian church, that is who. The "divide and conquer" mentality has been in place from day one.

Anyone who is looking for pearls of wisdom in any of those moldy texts will be disappointed. The "golden Rule" may be in there, but come on, give yourself some freaking' credit... who DOES'T know we all need to treat others as we would like to be treated? Talk about a deliberate dumbing down of the masses. We are autonomous, sovereign beings, living in a dynamic system, and any reliance on stagnant dogma, penned by elitist men centuries ago, WILL DO NOTHING BUT DRAG US DOWN, PERIOD.

[Dorjezigzag]

Like many on project Avalon I no longer have a TV- So no soap Operas. The whole dramas unfolding around Ben Fulford has been becoming like an episode of Twin Peaks or Lost with characters from Tin Tin. I actually quite enjoy it and I am entertained by it as it unfolds. That interview was so surreal it was hilarious, especially when they have an argument in the middle. Ben Fulford has a wicked sense of humour, do I believe it all- the jury has definitely not made its decision, due to lack of evidence.

I can understand why people get annoyed with the whole soap Opera but if you just view it as entertainment while taking notes, if it does all prove to be a total fabrication then no harm done. I guess the argument is that while following this story we could be investigating something with more substance therefore we are wasting our time.

What I do like is that the overall message is a positive one that the world could be an amazing place, which is a belief that I share. Sometimes we need hope, even if it is a delusional hope to get us through the dark of the night. Or perhaps not?

[Rantaak]

This information rings entirely true to my senses. Though the notion of religion being purely a control mechanism for the masses is not an entirely new one to me, I do take delight in the expression of the "God" portrayed in these books as being more energetically in line with how we perceive "Satan".

The way they portray Satan is as someone who would have you take all of your power back from institution by taking full responsibility for the experiences that you energetically attract. "God" would have you buy into the energetic trap of victimization. For example, if you were mugged, God would say that it is not your fault and that the mugger was a "sinner" so therefore you must pray harder. Conversely, Satan (as depicted) would say that since we are ultimately the Authors of our entire life experience that you energetically attract everything that you experience, therefore someone who ends up with a gun pointed in their face should question how they came to energetically attract such an experience.

I'm siding with Satan (God [me]) on this one.

[Unified Serenity]

Posted by Second Son (here)
You need proof, chiquetet? Have you turned on your TV lately? Do you realize that every armed conflict, whether religious in nature or not, is funded with the monies generated by these armageddon cults. Who originally ordained that the jews be the world's money lenders, giving the Rothchilds et al, such wealth and power? The early Christian church, that is who. The "divide and conquer" mentality has been in place from day one.

Anyone who is looking for pearls of wisdom in any of those moldy texts will be disappointed. The "golden Rule" may be in there, but come on, give yourself some freaking' credit... who DOES'T know we all need to treat others as we would like to be treated? Talk about a deliberate dumbing down of the masses. We are autonomous, sovereign beings, living in a dynamic system, and any reliance on stagnant dogma, penned by elitist men centuries ago, WILL DO NOTHING BUT DRAG US DOWN, PERIOD.

Let's play a game. Let's pretend the religion of Avalon is real, and we are all members. Now some power hungry person joins and does some terrible stuff. This person even has control of media, armies, education, economies, and they claim they are followers of the Avalon religion. So, now read your above post and put yourself in your own comments. We can each do this with every judgemental thing we say. Does it make Avalon and the messages here wrong? No. Does it make the person who used Avalon to bolster their message wrong? Yes. The religions of the world have been taken over, but it does not mean the core tenents of the faith are wrong or bad. It means someone made a 5th column.

[RedeZra]

Posted by ceetee9 (here)
In my opinion, it makes absolutely no sense for the Creator of all that there is to wait thousands of years to dictate "His Word" to dozens of specially chosen ones only to have "His Word" reinterpreted, mistranslated, and edited over hundreds of more years and then disseminated to the masses via multiple—and often conflicting—organizations when, most certainly, He could impart what He wishes unmodified and directly to each and every person on the planet.

in my opinion nobody has changed "His Word" and so it can still be read

but the reader might misinterpret "His Word" either willfully or unknowingly

[Elixer]

Overall, I think this 'Illuminatus' is painting with broad strokes. There is so much going on with the idea of God, Yahweh, Satan, Lucifer, that to just say 'your god is satan' is a gross oversimplification.
Read Genesis 1 and 2 for instance. In both it seems Man is created. In Genesis one they speak of 'God'. In 2 they speak of the 'Lord God'. This might vary depending on your translation, but I think this difference will be notable in most of them. The idea being that some usurper, possibly called Yahweh may have come in and passed himself off as our deity, while in fact he was 'but the caretaker of this planet'.

A discussion of this subject might be beyond the scope of this thread. The fact that this supposedly knowledgeable insider is not making many distinctions is telling though. He says he has mathematical proof that Yahweh is Satan. I doubt there even can be proof of this, since it's all about interpreting the words and people will do that in ways that fit their theories.
Like I said, I think he's just trying to sell his book and purposely makes himself look controversial to accomplish that.

[13th Warrior]

The Creator is pure clean water; religion is a pile of soil when you combine the two you get muddy water that's hard to navigate for the perils are hidden.

[super t]

Little info on Romanov http://armageddonconspiracy.co.uk/Al...2499096%29.htm