Benjamin Fulford's posts and reports

[etm567]

Posted by PathWalker (here)
We are fooled again with the screens and smoke of drama. James Bond international espionage.

The solution is not trading one control structure with another.
If you read about the warring factions, it is a tug of power. No matter who is on the rope end, it is a grab for power and control.
As long as the power is based on scarcity and fear, as it is now. There will be no big change.

And according to Fulford power is about to change hands. So getting from fiat money to centralized gold, or even "better" world wide mining domination. Is not the change we want.
The change is self empowerment at the individual level. Free energy, free transportation and uncontrolled medical solutions.

I do not see the Asians nor the Americans promoting free energy. Decentralizing their power.

Fulford keeps talking about changing to a meritocracy from whatever this is. His point is precisely to change the system so that the money does not stay at the top of the pyramid. So to say that what he is suggesting is to keep it this way just doesn't make any sense, at least not to me. From the very beginning, he has said that the money must be spent on providing people everywhere with everything that they need; that no one should be going without -- not without food, not without clothes, not without energy to keep warm. There is actually plenty on the planet for everyone to be comfortable.

The point being to spread it out, get it out of the banks and into the hands of the masses -- how can that be the same?

That is what he has always said, from his very first interview on Camelot. He went to the Japanese government and presented them with this idea, saying that they actually had enough money to cure the ills of the world, to clean everything up and make sure people had plenty to eat. And the point was that the Japanese government was being controlled by the Rockefeller interests, and thus could not do what they would like to do.

That's what this has all been about, all along.

ETM

[Revere]

On the signatures, I have had mine come out with those very “jerky” alterations when signing on a heavily grained surface under the document. Just an observation and you would think that they would sign on a smooth surface? Possibly it was a very old table? Or, a horribly done fake because It stood out the first time I looked at it.

In general, if this is real dynamic change for the better. It will not go quick. If it does, someone is behind the scene trying to consolidate power or manage a planned paradigm shift while the chance presents itself. If it is real change for the positive, it will go slow and their will be numerous attempts at getting things off track. If this is a smoke screen to divert attention, keep an eye out for other “big” news. Either way stay vigilant opportunity may rise for a positive shift to start and be fostered by all who are aware in any change scenario. If it’s a work of fiction for personal gain...SHAME ON YOU!


Peace,
“R”

[Kristin]

Rollo, Jack, Have I told you lately that I love you? Amen to AVALON!!! I think this information deserves it's own thread IMHO.
From the Heart,
Wormhole

[Eric J (Viking)]

Posted by Rollo (here)

Posted by viking (here)
Hey Jacko ...you know you are absolutely spot on...

After a little research this is what I found



Exactly the same as on the docs !!!! near impossible to be totally identical...

Can you bloody believe it !!

Benjamin needs to answer this!

viking

Ok, guys so it looks like three of them are fake now. I can't belive it!

Just a thought ... you don't suppose Fulfords been set up ??

Have these documents just shown up and put into the pile to substanciate the story on the surface (does Fulfrod know about the source of the Docs?)

Then once we find they are not the real deal, Fulford's story loses credibility??

viking

[Kristin]

More then Fulford. Unfortunately Wilcock and Kerry are also going to have to respond to this. This is really something.
Worm

ps. Even IF the man uses a stamp for his signature, there would be varied amounts of inking in the stamped version. Has anyone seen any evidence that this could be true? So far they look like identical reproductions to me.

[wolf_rt]

If he's right, it going to happen with or without him.
If he's wrong why bother?

I'm assuming the stamp would be digital.
to me the other sigs lend credibility rather than detract from it. I could do queen'y sig better than that with about 3 attempts. and why not just lift one of the far better sigs from online?

Is the whole court case etc. also a fraud, just to make Fulford and Wilcock look like idiots?

[etm567]

Posted by jackovesk (here)
You've been busted Benny Boy..!

It's certainly possible that you are right, and that these signatures were forged. But then it is of course also possible that the fraud took place before these documents came into the hands of Benjamin Fulford.

Why do you always want to point the finger at Ben, and not at any other point where fraud might have taken place?

You could be right that it is Ben. But there is not one iota of proof that, if this is fraud, it was carried out by Benjamin Fulford.

Personally, I am really, really curious about what the actual truth is. So I'm withholding judgment until that becomes more clear.

ETM
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[aranuk]

has anyone heard that interview with Benny and Theo yet? Anything of interest?

Stan

[etm567]

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Posted by Carmody (here)
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Whatever Benjamin says, hope it's true - but don't waste more time on it than it takes to read, stay on target, keep working YOUR space and YOUR corner.

Otherwise...nothing will happen....except..the monkey in your base physiological and psychology will keep resting and denying that it has to risk itself to get any change in this world. Your animal fears will continue to rule/control the formation of your intellectual base/thoughts.

Thanks for that very apt observation.

[etm567]

Posted by Wormhole (here)
More then Fulford. Unfortunately Wilcock and Kerry are also going to have to respond to this. This is really something.
Worm

ps. Even IF the man uses a stamp for his signature, there would be varied amounts of inking in the stamped version. Has anyone seen any evidence that this could be true? So far they look like identical reproductions to me.

You know, since none of us -- I think -- knows all the ins and outs of proving fraudulent signatures, this certainly warrants further investigation on the part of those concerned about it. But it hardly rises to the point of anyone "having to respond," as nothing has yet been proven.

Questions may be appropriate, or voicing one's concern. But if you go charging in and accuse people like Kerry Cassidy and/or Benjamin Fulford of forging signatures or of allowing deliberate fraud, you might just make yourself the butt of some humor.

Of course, I could be misreading what you're really saying?

ETM

[Kristin]

I'm happy to be and I am often the butt of humour. (After all, I believe in ET's) LOL, I hear your point though and yes you are misreading me. I do expect a response to this and I haven't accused anyone of anything except Jack and Rollo for being good investigators.

From the Heart,
Wormhole

Excuse me, EXCELLENT investigators.

[gripreaper]

Just so we are clear about whats going on?

the signatures are fake, the signatures are real...

the lawsuit is a hoax, the lawsuit is legitimate...

James Martinez is a psyop, James Martinez is legitimate...

the gold is in the hands of the bankster cabal, the gold is in the hands of the Asian dynasties...

America's expansion and the railroad was financed by European interests, the American expansion and the railroads were financed by Asian gold...the genocide of the indigenous cultures is not even a footnote.

The Asians got all of the worlds wealth by selling spices and silks to the ancient bloodlines who mined and preserved all of the gold, and now these global bankers are broke and are running out of money and are scared...

The criminals are about to be arrested any day now...

there's an organization of 130 (or is it 120?) nations who have banded together in opposition against the fiat banksters....

The organization is called the Monaco accord...no, it's something else we don't know yet and we need to wait several weeks for more info...

the criminals are asking for money and promise to do humanitarian things with it in exchange for amnesty...

The trustees for the Asian dynasties, are negotiating with the psychopaths as proxy for the wealthy Asian dynasties who want nothing but the best for all of mankind...

Global secret mercenary and Asian marshal arts ninja's wait at the ready to take out the global bankers at a moments notice, should negotiations fail, but there is fear that the backlash would be so severe, that an amicable settlement should be reached, so we should all remain patient.

Such backlash, as nuclear war, mass genocide, global pandemics, alien invasions, and such countermeasures should not be feared because the Galactic Federation of Light say they wont let any of this happen.

The amount of money we are talking here is in the quintragadzillions and no one is really sure how many zero's that is, but some estimate it translates into several million for each person on the planet, and should be distributed accordingly.

The new global financial system being proposed by the 130 nation alliance is going to be absolutely fantastic for all of the people on the planet, and is nothing like the existing system, but you need to stay tuned as the details are being worked out.

The US military is still uncertain as to whether they should back up such a coup because they are worried how they will get paid.

David Wilcock, according to sources, is in direct contact with those who "are in the know" and they are keeping him apprised of all of the latest developments in regards to the largest financial coup in the history of mankind...

In any event, all of the confusion should be cleared up shortly if you will just stay tuned and don't make any assumptions or draw any conclusions until all of the facts are in.

Now, you are up to speed and it should be clear to you.

[Jenci]

Posted by gripreaper (here)
Just so we are clear about whats going on?

the signatures are fake, the signatures are real...

the lawsuit is a hoax, the lawsuit is legitimate...

James Martinez is a psyop, James Martinez is legitimate...

the gold is in the hands of the bankster cabal, the gold is in the hands of the Asian dynasties...

America's expansion and the railroad was financed by European interests, the American expansion and the railroads were financed by Asian gold...the genocide of the indigenous cultures is not even a footnote.

The Asians got all of the worlds wealth by selling spices and silks to the ancient bloodlines who mined and preserved all of the gold, and now these global bankers are broke and are running out of money and are scared...

The criminals are about to be arrested any day now...

there's an organization of 130 (or is it 120?) nations who have banded together in opposition against the fiat banksters....

The organization is called the Monaco accord...no, it's something else we don't know yet and we need to wait several weeks for more info...

the criminals are asking for money and promise to do humanitarian things with it in exchange for amnesty...

The trustees for the Asian dynasties, are negotiating with the psychopaths as proxy for the wealthy Asian dynasties who want nothing but the best for all of mankind...

Global secret mercenary and Asian marshal arts ninja's wait at the ready to take out the global bankers at a moments notice, should negotiations fail, but there is fear that the backlash would be so severe, that an amicable settlement should be reached, so we should all remain patient.

Such backlash, as nuclear war, mass genocide, global pandemics, alien invasions, and such countermeasures should not be feared because the Galactic Federation of Light say they wont let any of this happen.

David Wilcock, according to sources, is in direct contact with those who "are in the know" and they are keeping him apprised of all of the latest developments in regards to the largest financial coup in the history of mankind...

The amount of money we are talking here is in the quintragadzillions and no one is really sure how many zero's that is, but some estimate it translates into several million for each person on the planet, and should be distributed accordingly.

In any event, all of the confusion should be cleared up shortly if you will just stay tuned and don't make any assumptions or draw any conclusions until all of the facts are in.

Now, you are up to speed and it should be clear to you.

That's it!!

And it is only 10th day in 2012.

Jeanette

[Kristin]

Why exactly Gripreaper! And don't forget, that even though we have a publicly filed lawsuit here, our own alternative media (who are the only ones reporting on these issues) are keeping the blackout darker then Fox News reporting on Ron Paul. But we've been brainwashed to be patient with these things, so it shouldn't be an issue. I'd like to add that if the Dragon family files a lawsuit publicly that effects us all then they should be open for the press and answer questions till their faces turn blue. The same goes for the Other group.

From the Heart,
Wormhole

[Setras]

Posted by aranuk (here)
has anyone heard that interview with Benny and Theo yet? Anything of interest?

Stan

Nothing he hasnt said already, plus the usual edge drop outs and freezes.....

[jackovesk]

Posted by etm567 (here)

Posted by jackovesk (here)
You've been busted Benny Boy..!

It's certainly possible that you are right, and that these signatures were forged. But then it is of course also possible that the fraud took place before these documents came into the hands of Benjamin Fulford.

Why do you always want to point the finger at Ben, and not at any other point where fraud might have taken place?

You could be right that it is Ben. But there is not one iota of proof that, if this is fraud, it was carried out by Benjamin Fulford.

Personally, I am really, really curious about what the actual truth is. So I'm withholding judgment until that becomes more clear.

ETM
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I was merely trying to investigate the 'Truth', Nothing more - Nothing less just the 'Truth'...

I myself have started a number of Ben Fulford Threads and I actually like him, but I have been constantly asking myself 1 Question of Ben, which often gets pushed aside due to his similar Anti-NWO view.

"If I think about it, what Substantiated 'Truth' has BF ever brought to the table over the years, I am trying to name just (1) thing he has said that can be Legitimately Confirmed or has come to Fruition..? Just (1)..?"

Ben is supposedly a 'Professional Journalist' and he published the Documents on his own site, therefore he is responsible for their authenticity.

Posted by jackovesk (here)
Ben Fulford Quote: "The attached documents were sent by a source linked to Ferdinand Marcos and have been confirmed as genuine secret government documents."

Yet myself a layman quickly found descrepancies with these signatures when I posted the documents on page 1 of this thread, I was waiting to see if anyone else picked up the same anomalies before I shared my findings...

I also tried to research whether or not Queen Elisabeth II is really the Chairman of the Committee of 300, but could not verify it...

I find all to often some of my fellow 'Truthseekers' get caught up in possibilities rather than realities, or follow someone elses version of the 'Truth' not their own.

Having said that, like many I have been following his work for years and I too would like to believe his message...

But IMHO 2012 is not the Year for any kind of 'False Hope' it merely takes away your own Power of 'Creating Change' through Intention...

Why do I continually get hounded because I ask the tough questions...

I came here to get the 'Truth as I Know It' out to as many as I can, what's so wrong with that..?

Like anyone I may be wrong at times, but those that know me always know I am always coming from my own place of 'Truth' and I will always own up to any mistakes I have made along the way...

...and if I'm wrong, I will be the 1st to admit it.

Isn't that what we are all here for, the 'Truth'..?

[Seikou-Kishi]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
Someone please PM me as soon as any of this actually translates into a positive (health and abundance) paradigm shift for humanity, and not just the richest of the rich trading piles of gold, dollars, and zeroes - among themselves.

Until then, I'll try to be quiet...

:~)

Dennis

Lol

Not quite as strong as Bill's pledge to eat his hat if Nesara ever came to pass ... but admirable nonetheless

Jokes aside ... *something* seems to be happening.

Those not on the inside will simply have to wait and see ... perhaps even those on the inside as well???

IMHO

But is that something "watch the right hand amaze you while the left steals from you"?

[Kristin]

Jackovesk, keep on keeping on. You're doing great work. It's important to shine the flashlight on both sides of any issue. You are doing an admirable job. Thank you.
From the Heart,
Wormhole

[onawah]

Following is a quick note from David Wilcock which appeared on his blog today at:
http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/d...end-tyranny-ii

The word on his Facebook page that the article would be on his webpage today was premature, evidently, though it was reported he did post something on Fulford's blog, though that will not be as detailed, apparently, as the version he is still working on.

UPDATE TUESDAY 1 / 10 / 12 -- ALMOST THERE

FINANCIAL TYRANNY is now up to 125 manuscript pages. This is my equivalent for "conspiracy theory" as Source Field Investigations was for consciousness science.

I think you all will be very pleased with it. I hate to work under this much time pressure. I have passed out three times in the last week from exhaustion, including one night where I woke up at 3:45 AM with the lights on and my clothes on, lying on my bed.

No measure of negative comments will be sufficient to force me to release this before it is right. It would be better if folks did not hold me to deadline expectations as this is far from an ordinary article. This is a quarter the size of SFI and equally as complex.

I have multiple groups working to save our planet who have very high hopes for the impact this will have. Some content was added by specific request. Please help spread the word far and wide as soon as it is released.

[gripreaper]

Posted by gripreaper (here)

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
Not quite as strong as Bill's pledge to eat his hat if Nesara ever came to pass ... but admirable nonetheless

Bill said that? You know, Bill's hat has major notoriety in and of itself. I think he should put it up for auction, and I'll bet the proceeds from that alone could pay off the debt and put all things right in the world!

Oh, and by the way, I would pay to see that.