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    LOL. Hiss! Meow!

    Okay ... I'll play along ... but we all know what happens to the last person holding the bag ...



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    I see this woman what's behind the final word. Her mediation, which is nearly lost to us now save for those people coming into their power again. They have the final. Which turned into a dirty word in it self. She may have never cracked a new age book but she's riding the bullet.

    Mediators are naturally entitled to the final word because of where it's coming from. They have the self authority to have the final word.

    That IS comforting to have a person who KNOWs what they are doing, I'm with you there. The ultimate in having your back watched.

    She's a mediator. They always have the final word. Her proffession is one of mediation. That is what a mediator is for, our ultimate extreme discernment. That is something that occurs in the power point place. That' comes from her self authority, its just a naturally occuring expression. She's entitled to the final word becaudr she's a mediator and very likely the people who are arguingwith her are not in their power place, not in their ultimate discernment. They want the final word without having to do what is necessary to find it. The work. She can't or steal the final word, its just her entitlement. It's always belonged to her. It belongs to everyone but not everyone does the work to claim it.

    The final word paradigm is the hilarious place to mediate. Because the final word is dirty thing now, like it's been made inot a control mechanism by the powers that be. There is a group I belong to and the mediator shifts every month to debate different things. Over the summer I overheard one say to her daughter who was screaming about her mother having the last word. So the mediator shrugged and said "You have the final word if you want the filth. Because someone has to have it and your anxious to have what you percieve as bad in the first place. So take it. " Recognizing that wasn't really the final word she was giving away. she gave away what the person percieved the final word as--bad.

    Iwas howling at how fast she got around that. The mind is so slow compared to the power point.

    Mediation can't come from the feeling /mind place because that place is biased and has judgements.

    Government and politics have reduced meditators to what we see today. People who base all their mediation on public opinion and how people 'feel' about them. Not knowing how to mediate--they fail. We have leaders who can't mediate for whatever reason. Because we have lost touch with it. The wrong people have the final word, people who are not entitled to it.

    Shamans used to mediate for their communities. Mediation has been around for thousands of years. It's misunderstood now but it is a natural expression of a person who knows their power. They will get the final word because it natually belongs to them. They own it.

    Get two people in their power that know how to mediate....there's nothing to mediate. No conflict.

    thank you for sharing your friend, it gives much more hope for the world knowing people like that are out there .

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    Well I will tell you what. I had this response in mind to EagleSpirt which about his jockey friend. Maybe it shows a point of motivation ..but also expression.

    To Eagle Spirit.

    Thank you for sharing that. I don’t often hear stories about the horse kin. She sounds like a typical horse person, totem, energy and literally. Not that there are vast amounts of them to be regarded as typical but…A lot of women that involve themselves in the dangerous end of horses (not the back end…yeee) were Amazons in a past life. And all that that implies. They don’t suffer fools very easily.
    Because..you can’t be a fool around a horse.

    Because it’s not a desk job, or academic or a job where you can correct the mess when your attention lapses. Very spiritual though--will to power.

    It’s a medium that will kill you if you are not very present.

    A horse can kill you, damage people around you, and itself in aheartbeat. Much horse work is invested in keeping other's safe .A lot of internal fortitude is required. If you meet a horse person and they are alive and relatively unscathed those are persons who know what they are doing. Jockeys are all about Self management. They are tested constantly, they have tremendous inner will because physical size doesn’t cut it with a horse.

    They reflect the medium they work in. Powerful, unconditioned, challenging--challenged, free, intense, and a horse always gets the last word one way or the other. They are forgiving animals with big generous hearts –especially thoroughbreds but Intense ,intense energies. But they test and test and test and challenge and that is what tempers the rider. Those challenges. I would have loved to known if she was fire horse in Chinese astrology.

    Blunt, direct. You don't time to write flowery love calls when a horse is spinning it's hindquarters into you. "Oh please my dear, I dont want to hurt your feelings but that horse is about to trample you."

    And …sometimes people bore them . After that sort of raw intensity and power that one is naviagating...people are sorta tame. So they rattle the cage to see what’s inside. Do you think they will find that inside a person?

    They do --so why isn't the person showing it. They start challenging it to come out. If you are ignored by a horse person...it means they don't see that potential for power in you.

    People may not know this anymore because we have don’t have associations with horses like we did before automobiles and trains came along. Where they weren’t casual pets but you worked together with them day in and out. Jockeying isn't a common profession. It doesn't form 'common' people.

    They have to be that way to work in that medium. A horse will not accept anything less, especially a eventing horse. Especially race horses. Their lives depend on that sort of person navigating them. It’s not a program, that can be re-booted if something goes wrong. You have to make instant, controlled power decision It becomes automatic.. Raw reality flying up in your face at 40 miles an hour and the only thing that keeps you there is your balance. You’re literally flying on a horse dangling by the balls of your feet. And that’s it. Balance .They have to balanced . And they are --on and off the ground.

    That takes a person of a rare character. Everytime I jump up on a off track horse, I think of a jockey . Their heart has to match the power of the horse. Their mind has to be as quick as those feet. And be aware always aware of people who don’t have that sort of power (their radar) that is in their sphere. The bystander can get hurt.

    For myself I know how many times a day I have to say to someone, Do not stand behind that horse.

    Of course I’m just being mean. After saying it dozen times I'm sure I sound mean.

    Why am I saying it?

    Horse people don’t suffer fools very gracefully.

    Like horses they have a hard time seeing the social conditioning in others, the lack of being present, and don’t feel the need to accommodate it. They don't see it. You don’t accommodate an animal that big--two wills have to be evenly matched. Blend powers. A person walks from the horse expecting everyone is powerful and can take that intensity .In spite of it all a horse enjoys that battle of the wills. The jockey has to enjoy it too.

    It’s not personal. You can't make it personal with a horse, they'll walk all over you.

    Horses don’t hurt people because of personal reasons.

    It’s an impersonal universe.

    Horses know that.
    Good reply 9Eagle, thank you....
    horse people that live and breathe that relationship are 'people' of a different vibrant color of fortitude.
    If I really, really needed to get something done of vital personal importance to the changes taking place and I felt called to get involved and help get things done in the physical world and it was necessary to enlist some help I would call her in, in a heartbeat...and she would do what she could to help if it was in any way within her reach to do so. She is so deep down good that it is such an integral part of her she does not have to wave the slightest banner...she is the type of doctor that wants to be called by her first name.
    And yes, amazon...and yes, very old soul...and yes, tough...and yes, she IS living change when something of personal/humane importance needs a powerful nudge in her life in front of her.
    I have stories to fill a small library...haha : )
    Love! Love! Love!

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    In reflecting on what you say about power, I kind of did a quick run through. And great teachers while not always perfect but always demanding, never, the ones I have known, take on the weak. What they demand is your best always always always. When you begin and when you are young this can be a pain. And you have no perspective of how much time and patience it takes to say something as simple as stand up straight or sit up straight, hold your head up, etc.

    One of the things that shocked me about American Idol was how many people who could not carry at tune much less sing, said they had had years of singing lessons. I consider that a terrible breach of ethics. No voice teacher I knew in my day would take a tone deaf pupil and take their money for something that was not possible. Nor would they say things like follow your bliss and the money will come.

    A young woman must choose to be a ballerina at 6. She and her body grow into her vision. She, life, and the teacher help sustain the vision. A great teacher says this is the goal but there are no guarantees how this is going to work out. At 9 I decided to be a coloratura but my very first teacher said we have no idea what kind of voice you will have a 20. You never put all your eggs in one basket. Love the process and the learning of it. Self respect comes from the success of self discipline. That was my first incarnation in this life. My foundation to build on. I have had many master teachers in various subjects--they always say it takes a minimum of a decade to become proficient at this. I never hear modern teachers say this. I see no evidence that the human body has changed in that respect. At 18 you cannot decide as a woman to be a ballerina nor a gymnist. Yet, men can make the decision to become a gymnist, dancer, swimmer late in young life because their bodies grow differently. You do not see a male gymnist ay 12 or 13 or a swimmer. Young males cannot approach young female swim or run rates in olympic summer training. At 12 Maxx was running the mile at 5 minutes and 5 secs. She was fencing male college students. Lots of weird things go on between young men and women as teenagers in sports training. I cannot tell you how many times Maxx and I were both called bull dykes.

    Again there is the lack of appreciation and understanding of different. Not equal in manifestation only equal in spiritual value. Men still struggle with being born male superior means equal is a demotion. It takes all the threads of the tapestry to weave a big and beautiful piece of art. No thread is superferlous.
    Beware the axis of sanctimony.

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    Sheesh ... silence is deafening in here today.

    Have some noise ... not here and now ... then and there ... yes more baggage (but it rocks and fast forward to today and perhaps not so inadmissible for acceptable village musing after all ...)


    Quote Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
    At the risk of continuing to move off-topic (aka world knowledge) we really need to recognize what the military industrial complex (at the behest of the elite) has done to promote anti-americanism.

    Showing my age here ... I grew up in the vietnam "war" and the draft era. Lots of baggage there. My reality when growing up ... who knew?

    Listen to the lyrics here ... just a bit of "history" not written by the elite minion erasers of our real history. No one in their right mind *ANYWHERE* wants war!!!





    (America)
    America where are you now?
    Don't you care about your sons and daughters?
    Don't you know we need you now
    We can't fight alone against the monster

    (Monster)
    Once the religious, the hunted and weary
    Chasing the promise of freedom and hope
    Came to this country to build a new vision
    Far from the reaches of kingdom and pope
    Like good Christians, some would burn the witches
    Later some got slaves to gather riches

    But still from near and far to seek America
    They came by thousands to court the wild
    And she just patiently smiled and bore a child
    To be their spirit and guiding light

    And once the ties with the crown had been broken
    Westward in saddle and wagon it went
    And 'til the railroad linked ocean to ocean
    Many the lives which had come to an end
    While we bullied, stole and bought our a homeland
    We began the slaughter of the red man

    But still from near and far to seek America
    They came by thousands to court the wild
    And she just patiently smiled and bore a child
    To be their spirit and guiding light

    The blue and grey they stomped it
    They kicked it just like a dog
    And when the war over
    They stuffed it just like a hog

    And though the past has it's share of injustice
    Kind was the spirit in many a way
    But it's protectors and friends have been sleeping
    Now it's a monster and will not obey

    (Suicide)
    The spirit was freedom and justice
    And it's keepers seem generous and kind
    It's leaders were supposed to serve the country
    But now they won't pay it no mind
    'Cause the people grew fat and got lazy
    And now their vote is a meaningless joke
    They babble about law and order
    But it's all just an echo of what they've been told
    Yeah, there's a monster on the loose
    It's got our heads into a noose
    And it just sits there watchin'

    Our cities have turned into jungles
    And corruption is stranglin' the land
    The police force is watching the people
    And the people just can't understand
    We don't know how to mind our own business
    'Cause the whole worlds got to be just like us
    Now we are fighting a war over there
    No matter who's the winner
    We can't pay the cost
    'Cause there's a monster on the loose
    It's got our heads into a noose
    And it just sits there watching



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    gadzooks ... the village has been overrun.

    no one is left???


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    I'm here, can't you see me?


    .... be gentle with your anger. Sixto Rodriguez, Cape Town 20.02.2013

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    Quote Posted by ViralSpiral (here)
    I'm here, can't you see me?



    War can't give life ... it can only take it away

    Nice plot

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    Lol Cal, you're not looking!
    .... be gentle with your anger. Sixto Rodriguez, Cape Town 20.02.2013

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    Catz:

    Quote Sheesh ... silence is deafening in here today.

    Have some noise ... not here and now ... then and there ... yes more baggage (but it rocks and fast forward to today and perhaps not so inadmissible for acceptable village musing after all ...)


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    Quote Posted by ViralSpiral (here)
    Lol Cal, you're not looking!
    Bugger ... I think I have had my fill of lessons for awhile.

    Nobody will let me go home ... ulli threw away all my bricks ...


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    .... be gentle with your anger. Sixto Rodriguez, Cape Town 20.02.2013

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    I Love You People !

    Do not make anything your everything...simple again and profound once initiated from the heart!

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    When my phone buzzed me the other day, I saved this deleted post:

    Ah, righteous indignation. So refreshing. It is vital to our future to revive this attitude. It is imperative to know you are right to be idignant in the face of ignorance. Not because of a superior, or elitist, or special interest (besides truth and justice) position of indignation. The ignorant and the informed are equal, one simply does not know it. Indignity has many faces, and not all are righteous. But righteous indignation is another matter. It cannot be refuted; it is always justified, by definition. When one is righteously indignant the truth is automatically, literally, at one's side. In such a state one had better be integrated and centered, focused and aware, because the ego loves the special attention and will derail the righteous part real quick otherwise.

    Decided to post it now in response to Viral Spiral's quote from another thread.
    Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless — like water...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend. Bruce Lee

    Free will can only be as free as the mind that conceives it.

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    Oh my tired eyes have been restored ... it's a *MIRACLE*!!!

    Praise the Viral (bugger ... don't want to be burned at the stake for appreciating anyone ...).


    ummm ... errr ... I C U


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    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
    When my phone buzzed me the other day, I saved this deleted post:

    Ah, righteous indignation. So refreshing. It is vital to our future to revive this attitude. It is imperative to know you are right to be idignant in the face of ignorance. Not because of a superior, or elitist, or special interest (besides truth and justice) position of indignation. The ignorant and the informed are equal, one simply does not know it. Indignity has many faces, and not all are righteous. But righteous indignation is another matter. It cannot be refuted; it is always justified, by definition. When one is righteously indignant the truth is automatically, literally, at one's side. In such a state one had better be integrated and centered, focused and aware, because the ego loves the special attention and will derail the righteous part real quick otherwise.

    Decided to post it now in response to Viral Spiral's quote from another thread.
    Good One Ernie...Fortitude laced with Humility...a combination that turbo charges change!

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    .... be gentle with your anger. Sixto Rodriguez, Cape Town 20.02.2013

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    ..................

    Yup ... you are quite perceptive and sensitive ... if you live along the coastline(s) ... any ... stay alert okay???


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