Here and Now...What's Happening?

[dan33]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)

The original tarots or those closest to them, like Universal Tarot, have the original roles or archetypes of life symbology in them still . And then there are infiite ways one sees how these roles interact and effect us through the layout. Every story of man can be shown there. The decks represent the roles archetypes influencing a person at any given time. So while they don't tell the future persay (being as they are a peice of glossy cardboard) they do let us know what sort influences are at play NOW that can affect a future outcome. That's why I prefer two paths layouts.

Yes. Tarot shows you the possible events, never the only destination.
I like very much the _Arturian Tarot, but i was educated on the Ryder Tarot.

[astrid]

Someone once said to me that the aim was to
master the archetypes as presented in the tarot.
In earth school we do this through learning how
to deal with different types of people that represent
those archetypal energies . And if you study such
things and understand them you get to fast track the
experiential stuff . Reaching a knowingness basically
gives you a "get out of jail card " as you don't have to
learn it the slower harder way . This has been my
experience anyway. Basiclly when you start to
understand the mechanics you get to burn through
many life times of leanings in one incarnation.
Which is even more heightened in the here and
now times we are in . Leap frogging ahead is not
that hard to do if you are watching and listening,
and have moved beyond fear .

[9eagle9]

Lol. The light is decieving as they think the dark is. I have a treasure chest full of cast off metaphysical items people have foisted off on me because they were 'dark'. I find this amusing as they weren't dark when they bought them.....but some how managed to convince themselves they were because those crystals and things where showing them something they didn't want to hear. Or want to confront.

Values of light and dark come from us.

Why we keep walking in circles isn't found in the light, supposedly nothing is wrong with the light. So if we're standing in the light and something is still amiss...that should be a clue.

It's what we find in the dark that heals us. A shadow self is called that for a reason...

Posted by astrid (here)
And I had all these people try to tell me to stay away
from the Waite deck as it was too "dark" LOL
That talk always makes me more interested
someone put a charge on it at some stage way
back when and people keep repeating the
mythology without even knowing why .
Most likely because its the one with the most
truth and least fluff that speaks to tbe whole self.
And saying something is "dark " tells me that it may
allow one to acess and integrate ones shadows-
which is a spiritual must do if you are
serious about growing up.
i love pretty pictures too I'm a Libran. At one stage
everything had to be so god dam beautiful in my
world that I was paralysed. Thankfully I have
thrown that attachment . Astrology is great for
pointing out the chains that bind you .

[astrid]

Exactly.
My beef with the whole new age movement is
too much fluff on the outside and too much
neurosis on the inside .
Neurosis on the outside means at least a person
is working at integrating their shadow .
Why you have so much porn in the closets of
hard core religious conservative types . The shadow
will always try to express whether you like it or not
Better to make friends with it that become bitter and
twisted trying to run from it . Love shadow work these
days it's where the depth and richness of life lives .

[Ernie Nemeth]

I won't keep it in any more.

Something has changed. Since before New Years, I cannot land a job. Even here I posted at least twice that I was off to work but both times the jobs were cancelled. One when I was 5 minutes away from the customer's house and the other as I was putting on my coat to leave for work. Then again last night, my customer called to cancel. I'm getting the calls but can't land the jobs. My phone is ringing a lot but I haven't worked in weeks. Just when I thought I had it all figured out.

I'm not upset, however. I'm not depressed. I feel fine. So I am confused. And yes, I am conflicted about money. I have very strong and adamant views about it. The way I try to bring these two things in line is by accepting things as they are. Money exists - and I need it. I wish I didn't but I do. I know I'm not the only one - we all need it.

I'm gonna be real honest here. I don't like to work 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, month after month, year after year. I have other interests that are far more important. And I have known this since I was a young teenager. My resentment for having to work like that festered and grew until age 45. One day on the ride to work I had this powerful feeling that NO MORE! I turned around and went home, quit my job and started my business. It has sustained me in my current lifestyle, which is frugal, for the last 8 years.

A lot of stuff had to go to live like this, and went it did. There was never much money from that point on, not like before. From the beginning the sustaining thought for me was, "I could get the call tomorrow." That is, the right guy with the right sized project would one day call and I'd be okay from then on. Still waiting...

And here it comes - I never wanted to be an electrician. If the job posted in the paper that day had been: "Wanted, apprentice plumber. No experience required. Will train.", I'd be a plumber. But here's the most honest part, I never wanted to be anything at all. I had too many interests to narrow it down like that. So fate decided for me. And here I am.

So, I say to myself, "I don't care, it doesn't matter. Others are worse off than me." But I do care and it does matter, and I do empathise with the less fortunate. I can't change what has happened in the past but I can decide where I go in the future, now. So, I wonder to myself, as I have ever since it was first asked of me at age 14, what will I be when I grow up and realize - I guess I never grew up so I wouldn't have to decide.

[dan33]

Now that Sherlock Holmes is back in fashion (Guy Ritchie's film and the excellent BBC series "Sherlock") I like to remember the wonderfull opening credits of "The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes" (directed by Billy Wylder)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ggXLuB_KoHA

...this is the opening of the BBC Series

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=sYfBIDQfASo

[Elethia]

I've been floundering a bit on PA. Wondering if I should just give it up and spend my time more 'productively'. As I have decided to NOT stockpile gold or silver or food or water or guns and ammo, maybe I was in the wrong forum.

My only plan is switching to another reality when need be. So imagine my surprise to discover there is another reality on PA. For some reason, I never looked in this thread before. Now, this is fun!

[dan33]

Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
I won't keep it in any more.

Something has changed. Since before New Years, I cannot land a job. Even here I posted at least twice that I was off to work but both times the jobs were cancelled. One when I was 5 minutes away from the customer's house and the other as I was putting on my coat to leave for work. Then again last night, my customer called to cancel. I'm getting the calls but can't land the jobs. My phone is ringing a lot but I haven't worked in weeks. Just when I thought I had it all figured out.

I'm not upset, however. I'm not depressed. I feel fine. So I am confused. And yes, I am conflicted about money. I have very strong and adamant views about it. The way I try to bring these two things in line is by accepting things as they are. Money exists - and I need it. I wish I didn't but I do. I know I'm not the only one - we all need it.

I'm gonna be real honest here. I don't like to work 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, month after month, year after year. I have other interests that are far more important. And I have known this since I was a young teenager.

Ha, haa., I understand you.
When I was seven years old, I stop doing my homework. For me it made ​​no sense at all, that after eight hours in the school i have homework at home. Even I had to "pull back" then ... I'm still thinking the same.
I've been an actor in the school and later in the military service. I have a PhD (like the anglosaxons say) being a clown.

[Guest]

Posted by meeradas (here)
Was just standing outside.
Sun breaking thru the clouds.
Northern hemisphere, wintertime.
And the sun burns like in summer.
Very unlike the winter sun.
Very unusual. Very different.

I like it. Birds and trees too.

Same here in SoCal about the last 3 weeks searing sun during the day, air is cool and at night Jack Frost comes through and its freezing -up keeping a fire going into the night. The Indians around here call this type of weather the Santa Anas -translated means devil winds afterward SoCal usually is deluged with heavy rains.

I have been having restless sleep right before the full moon then fall into a very deep sleep and then wake up feeling like i haven't slept at all but refreshed.....
Have been watching the moon alot; creep up over the mtns.... and it is strange sight to behold.... the moonlight shines through rainbow halogen light swirling(s) all night...

The person who taught me the Tarot and Cartomancy gave me her Ryder deck too... I still have it to this day never used anything else, only the regular playing deck sometimes.

Going into the Baja this weekend to visit my Yaqui friends and their family.

Love

Nora

we are all related

[astrid]

When ever I get short of money my flow is blocked
somewhere so I get to giving back to reboot it.
Works for me . Either that or I just offer it up to
be taken care off higher up. As I said I'm a lazy Libran
I rarely do anything the 3D way . Few times I worked
for " the man" it was very short lived . So since 20 I
have made my own way, never ever, ever relied on a
man for money either, that was my parental
programming . My father had it all worked out I was
to become a nurse and marry a doctor . He even
somehow got me a place nursing without me having
to sit any entrance exams. That was all just too
scary to me so my first out was to do a science
degree, I was always good at sciences but it was
not a passion . After a year of partying and no
study i left and applied to do fashion 3 years
later I had my own business.
But the spiritual path we are on does create a lot
of conflicts no question there . But there are all for
good reasons . Simply put it gets harder and harder
to do things that are not in total alignment . Is not
Money as such but more what you are passionate
about what drives you changes . And you simply
can't do something purely for money's sake there has
to be more to it more meaning . I don't worry about
money at all I follow my path and the energy is made
available for me as I need it .
But I didnt used to be like this.
I was paralyzed with money fear and all the
time . And my fear had me hostage .
energy stopped to flow . But I did start to notice
that when I gave out in one area money would
appear in another . Since then I have a totally
different view . We are all taught that we are
lacking in some way and this manifests itself
into our lives . Practicing gratitude everyday
shifts a lot of that and trusting your higher
helpers .

[Carmody]

Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)

So, I say to myself, "I don't care, it doesn't matter. Others are worse off than me." But I do care and it does matter, and I do empathize with the less fortunate. I can't change what has happened in the past but I can decide where I go in the future, now. So, I wonder to myself, as I have ever since it was first asked of me at age 14, what will I be when I grow up and realize - I guess I never grew up so I wouldn't have to decide.

Another way to look at it:

Yes, but if we are always evolving.... then there is nothing we can ever be -that is static. Not deciding, not living in static enforced reflection - leaves the door open to and for... change.

[eaglespirit]

Ernie...We are Ambassadors(with humility too : )...You, me and the whole lot of beautiful Souls "working" to make this place right in front of us as balanced and beautiful as We may...through thick and thin...and the thick of it is getting much, much thinner now!

You are a Pro...so there, Aho!!!

[dan33]

The person who taught me the Tarot and Cartomancy gave me her Ryder deck too... I still have it to this day never used anything else, only the regular playing deck sometimes.

Going into the Baja this weekend to visit my Yaqui friends and their family.

Love

We are all related.

excellent work, Daniel





Have you used your cards to meditate? Each Tarot card is a door. You can enter and experience. Each card is also a "chip". Each card is like a Pen Drive. if you want experience the Mercury's energie, take the Magician .... Aries energie, enter Into the emperor (and see what is on the back of His throne .... and so on.

wow! i Have a deja vu just writing this. just a split of a second

We are all related.

[ulli]

After a thick traffic drive which took twice as long as usual we finally arrived at the beach. My vision of termites has come true...the bases of our wooden kitchen drawers are infested with wood worm, and every bowl, strainer and sauce pan is covered in tiny heaps of almond colored dust.
Other than that all is well and I can't wait to jump in the ocean before watching a cloudless Pacific sunset.
Wishing all of you were here, especially the snow people.
So great to finally have our own Internet here...after 10 years of waiting.
Will catch up with the posts later.

[9eagle9]

Quote Ernie.


]Something has changed. Since before New Years, I cannot land a job. Even here I posted at least twice that I was off to work but both times the jobs were cancelled. One when I was 5 minutes away from the customer's house and the other as I was putting on my coat to leave for work. Then again last night, my customer called to cancel. I'm getting the calls but can't land the jobs. My phone is ringing a lot but I haven't worked in weeks. Just when I thought I had it all figured out.

I'm not upset, however.

You are. You're are coping splendidly with your upset by sucking it up and rearranging it like rearranging furniture on the Titanic... but you are upset. That's okay.

I'm not depressed.

Sure you are. Who wouldn't be.

I feel fine.

How, are you fine if...what you want is the phone to ring, and appointments to be kept? And it's not happening. If that is what you want, and it's not happening...its not fine. Just saying its fine doesn't make it fine. It didn't correct anything. And the resulting feeling from that is...not okay, maybe even depressed. This creates resistance, not solution to the 'problem (not working). So we accept that we are depressed, that we're not feeling fine, that we are not okay...instead of pushing it away and...it evaporates. Resistance gone by really feeling the feeling. That's it . that's all that is required to clear that resistance. You may have to do it once, twice, 20 times a day but it does clear it.

So I am confused. And yes, I am conflicted about money. I have very strong and adamant views about it.

You are conflicted about how you feel about money. But....If you hate it and feel anger and conflict towards it...it ain't going to come near you. If you are angry and conflicted towards me...I wouldn't come near you either...lol

Get in that feeling and feel it. Feel the pain body. Get depressed, feel the confusion instead of keeping it as thought--it will evaporate and so will the resistance.

The way I try to bring these two things in line is by accepting things as they are. Money exists - and I need it. I wish I didn't but I do. I know I'm not the only one - we all need it.

It's a convience, yes. With or without money we are going to expend something...If we go back to the gold system where we are lugging 10 pound bars of gold around....we're going ot miss money. Then we'll create another banking system to accomadate our pain. .You don't need it , it won't need you...if you begin to address how you feel about it, by feeling it, your reistance towards money will evaporate. Weirdly enough...you don't need as much anymore. This time last year, I was pulling 1700 a week. This week I'm topping at 400...I feel no dent in the way I live. I didn't become more frugal it made me aware I was buying things..I didn't want....lol.

Truth has no opposite so no one argue with the truth. Money ...we assign opposites to it. In doing this .... You're not accepting 'being' without money, the circumstances of lack, you are simply accepting the 'feeling' of money. How you feel towards it. Let it go.

I'm gonna be real honest here. I don't like to work 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, month after month, year after year.

That's just truth. If we are not slaves why should we like to work. Me either, big lazy arse here. If someone suggested I work 8 hours a day I'd laugh all over their coffee break. But much of what I earn isn't work....I ride horses, and write and talk to people...that's not work. To me. Now, getting out of the truck to hike my lazy arse to get gas would have been work yesterday. I would be doing something I dind't want to do. But I spend four hours before that wading in the mud leading horses back and forth for at least 3 miles of back and forth..not work.


I have other interests that are far more important.

Yes. You do.

And I have known this since I was a young teenager.

Listen to your inner child.

My resentment for having to work like that festered and grew until age 45. One day on the ride to work I had this powerful feeling that NO MORE! I turned around and went home, quit my job and started my business. It has sustained me in my current lifestyle, which is frugal, for the last 8 years.

You got stuck somewhere with a self limiting belief or feeling. You are conflicted about money so a state of frugality was called in .Call it back out again. Gotta call out the feeling though to do that. If we are conflicted with money ....that which we are conflicted over will be very undependanble. so going from being sustained in what we do,to being supported in who we really is the goal.

A lot of stuff had to go to live like this, and went it did. There was never much money from that point on, not like before. From the beginning the sustaining thought for me was, "I could get the call tomorrow." That is, the right guy with the right sized project would one day call and I'd be okay from then on. Still waiting...And here it comes - I never wanted to be an electrician. If the job posted in the paper that day had been: "Wanted, apprentice plumber. No experience required. Will train.", I'd be a plumber. But here's the most honest part, I never wanted to be anything at all. I had too many interests to narrow it down like that. So fate decided for me. And here I am.

I noted somewhere earlier up thread we are seldom successful or energized doing what we don't feel like doing. BEing who I am means, horses, counseling , and writing. And that is what supports me. When I accepted that... I had more work than I could choose from. My family does not consider this 'real jobs' but they are fixed incomes. The more I want to do, doing what i like to do....just doing it...here comes more money.

So, I say to myself, "I don't care, it doesn't matter.

It DOES MATTER...to you. This is acceptance. Accepting we feel this way. It's okay. See ? Just accepting it didn't make the barn burn down did it? You're not accepting the circumstances, you are accepting that you are feeling that way

Others are worse off than me.

Other People are worse off than me too. Maybe I'm worse off than you financially. But ... If being worse off than others would change thiings for them, I'm sure you'd do it. But it doesn't change anything for them does it? Is someone's cancer going to be cured because you didn't have any work this week? if I thought that for one minute being broke for a week would help someone else ...I'd do it. But I found out if I have more, I can pay someone's electric bill for them.

You're just losing your slave mentality we have all been attached for so long. It's messy confusing process to lose our attachments.

[astrid]

Great posts peoples

Yes attachments messy things and these
patterns can go back many generations.
The good news is the whole toxic mess
can stop with us . We have the power

Ernie thanks for sharing , you are by no
means alone on this one. Im sure it's quite
intentional that we are programmed to stay
in lack thinking and to dislike money .
just think how fast we could turn this mess
around if all the resources were turned over
to those with the highest intentions ...

And it's always such a controversial topic
amongst light worker types we are meant to
denounce money to be " spiritual" . But Its
my conjuncture that this is programming and total
mythology that money has been " charged" as evil .
That's from the perception of greed and not from the
perception of love . To me love and money are the
same thing . This week I gave someone who needed
to eat the balance of my bank account
is that not love ??

[9eagle9]

I envy and covet your statement.....no one could have said it better.

Posted by astrid (here)
Exactly.
My beef with the whole new age movement is
too much fluff on the outside and too much
neurosis on the inside .
Neurosis on the outside means at least a person
is working at integrating their shadow .
Why you have so much porn in the closets of
hard core religious conservative types . The shadow
will always try to express whether you like it or not
Better to make friends with it that become bitter and
twisted trying to run from it . Love shadow work these
days it's where the depth and richness of life lives .

[eaglespirit]

Posted by astrid (here)
Great posts peoples
just think how fast we could turn this mess
around if all the resources were turned over
to those with the highest intentions ...

Hang On To Your Seats!!! That turn on this wonderful ride is just ahead : )

[astrid]

Bring it on i say,
its about darn time

[Belle]

Posted by ulli (here)
Wishing all of you were here, especially the snow people.

Wish I was there, too.

Yesterday morning....rain to freezing rain to snow to sleet and back to rain. This morning all we had was a little freezing rain causing ice patches, followed by an afternoon of high winds. Good weather to stay inside snuggled up next to a crackling fire with a good book and steaming hot chocolate piled high with whipped cream...mmmm.

Unfortunately, I was on the road most of the past couple of days, spinning out, doing 'donuts', and enjoying the thrill of hitting the brakes and skidding into oncoming traffic.