Planet X/Nibiru/Tyche/Hercolobus/Elenin

[Ria]

I like the ho ho ho greeen giants. Yes you are correct, about the dead language, yet I think it is in use in the various bases on and off world, having been resurrected for human use. not just looking at what J Sparks said, about the hieroglyphic language he was given.

[DNA]

Posted by Ria (here)
I like the ho ho ho greeen giants. Yes you are correct, about the dead language, yet I think it is in use in the various bases on and off world, having been resurrected for human use. not just looking at what J Sparks said, about the hieroglyphic language he was given.

Good one correlating the Klaus interview with the Sparks interview. That is kick ass.

[Ria]

I do not know if you have read the seres of books called The Ringing Cedars about a woman called Anastasia she is alive and kicking. she speaks of this language and how it has been lost. and only parts have been left. Yet she also said that it was know-en by those who wonted to hide the truth.
If any one can persevere with the set of books it is worth it, for the nuggets. Most frustratingly you wont her there in front of you, so you can ask all the questions you wont. Unfortunately, but understandably she is keeping a very low profile.

[DNA]

Hi Ria, I have heard of it (the Anastasi Ringing Ceders books) but no I have not read it. I have to be honest, with all of this up to the minute youtube video stuff, I haven't been reading too much lately.
I know it might take some time, but it would be really cool if you could start a thread about it, and kind of give a book report so to speak. Summarize the information.
Maybe correlate some information from some other works where you see common knowledge being glimpsed by multiple sources.

[OnyxKnight]

Posted by Ria (here)
Onyxknight, you are most definitely a fighting man of words, and extremely bright for your years. What I would like to see, is more flowing dialog, so we can take this up - to a more incisive understanding. I believe you would like this to.
Relative to your years, I might be considered an old fart, with time I have lost my desire to duel with words, but never have I lost the desire for the truth. I say this because Ishtar is seiner to me, and may not feel like battling, and just leave the field.[ which kind of looks like she has] I would like to invite her back, would you feel there is merit in this? Not to compromise on your truth, a willingness to engage with due respect and kindness, on all sides. I say this, because I think you have a lot to offer, Ishtar has much to impart too.
[Not just you, I have seen this in all of us] The mexican stand off approach dose not achieve very much.
What do you feel about this?

The Dino thing could be another thread

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Posted by DNA (here)
Onyxknight only comes in two versions, the pissed off version and the really pissed off version.
When I saw that Knight had responded to this thread I had to go pop some popcorn and make an iced tea in preparation of my reading it.
LOL good stuff. This thread is kind of cool. Lots of good stuff in it.

lol

Hi Ria and DNA

Yes, I know I come off as being engaging/harsh/aggressive in my posts, but this is not how I felt at all while typing that out. I just seem to have a bad luck with people seeing the posts that way.

I like to think its more of an assertive standpoint that I'm taking and I do try lately to come off as less confrontational. I guess I need to work a lot more on that lol.

I wanted to respond to some other posts last night, but I didn't have the time. I'll try to do that today if I'm able

[RedeZra]

Posted by Ria (here)
Redezra, I personally find you difficult to relate to,

I would question that there are distinctions, and ultimately it will not be beyond us to understand all.

thnx i take that as a complement


what i'm saying is that i think the UFOs might come en masse soon and so i am setting them in a Biblical context before it happens

[Ria]

DNA, It is difficult trying to do it all, with regard to the books, ring cedars, it is awhile ago I read them, so I would have to start from scratch. I will do my best but don't hold your breath.
I am trying to cover Onyxknight material and have come across post 149 this is about the Anunnaki, it would be good to paste it here. I don't know if you can?I am pants at computer skills.
Onyxknight, If you have anything to add to this thread that would be great.

[kersley]

Posted by Andreash94 (here)
i just bought 2 of sichin books and started to read ...should i keep reading?.....and what u say about BobDean (he was a freind of Sitchin )o.o

My opinion is to stop reading, after doing some research I find him to be nothing but a great story teller.. I keep asking the same question??? show me on the sumerian tablet where it Say's the Annunaki came from Nibiru?
Also Bob Dean don't have much to say either, unless you get him drunk on a bottle of JD..
And even then he'll probably say I can't tell you as I had one too many.
But like everyone keeps saying, he is a dear soul and a great story teller..

[OnyxKnight]

Posted by kersley (here)

Posted by Andreash94 (here)
i just bought 2 of sichin books and started to read ...should i keep reading?.....and what u say about BobDean (he was a freind of Sitchin )o.o

My opinion is to stop reading, after doing some research I find him to be nothing but a great story teller.. I keep asking the same question??? show me on the sumerian tablet where it Say's the Annunaki came from Nibiru?
Also Bob Dean don't have much to say either, unless you get him drunk on a bottle of JD..
And even then he'll probably say I can't tell you as I had one too many.
But like everyone keeps saying, he is a dear soul and a great story teller..

How about you use the search engine Ishtar provided herself?

It hints not only Nibiru (there pronounced as Nibru) to be another world, or at least another realm - but that even the 'Underworld' is a part of it - physically.

If you go to my post on the Annunaki in my 'Experiences thread', you'd see why the Summerians would consider the underworld as part of the 'Annunaki realm'.

[Ria]

Thanks Onyxknight, though it would be good, to bring all this info together.
VaughB has a link, My Video Channel..........which is showing Patrica Cori being interviewed. speaking on the all of the above, with a different take. your comments on this would be good. I found this by "chance" by looking at White Feather's thread on 'The Stargate of Aramu Muru In Peru', another goody.

[kersley]

Posted by OnyxKnight (here)

Posted by kersley (here)

Posted by Andreash94 (here)
i just bought 2 of sichin books and started to read ...should i keep reading?.....and what u say about BobDean (he was a freind of Sitchin )o.o

My opinion is to stop reading, after doing some research I find him to be nothing but a great story teller.. I keep asking the same question??? show me on the sumerian tablet where it Say's the Annunaki came from Nibiru?
Also Bob Dean don't have much to say either, unless you get him drunk on a bottle of JD..
And even then he'll probably say I can't tell you as I had one too many.
But like everyone keeps saying, he is a dear soul and a great story teller..

How about you use the search engine Ishtar provided herself?

It hints not only Nibiru (there pronounced as Nibru) to be another world, or at least another realm - but that even the 'Underworld' is a part of it - physically.

If you go to my post on the Annunaki in my 'Experiences thread', you'd see why the Summerians would consider the underworld as part of the 'Annunaki realm'.

Hi Onyx.. I done exactly that with the link she provided. i couldn't come up with anything relating to that. would you be so kind and point me in the right direction?
Thanks..
PS.. nice to see you back. and I see you haven't lost any of your sparks.. lol

[Aetheric Traveler]

Folks,

Ishtar said she would be away for a few days.

Besides, if someone makes what they feel is their viewpoint, then, the forum is there for discussion. OnyxKnight didn't attack her personally, just some of her presentations, offerings, and most importantly her omissions.

Me personally, I am always suspect of people claiming or stating to be SHAMANS. A true shaman as I understand it never says that about themselves. The people who do say it, IMHO, are trying to "accredit" themselves in the eyes of others. Spirit journeys are personal. As such, I wouldn't abide by the notion that the information received by a singular person "always" applies to all people. I tend to drop people down a notch on the credibility meter when they use spirit journeys as one of their high level credibility marker chips. The highest class of infiltrators on this site have learned what some of the credibility chips are, but always show themselves when it comes to attempting to discredit what it slowly becoming the "UN-HIDE-ABLE" truth about the planet Earth, the Human Condition, and most importantly, the role of Off-Worlders interactions with the human race in past, present and potential future times. Many of them are getting quite good at being credible by their knowledge of certain areas. However, studying something for 40 years doesn't make anyone infallible. As a man, I've been practicing "hitting the bowl" for 50 years, and I miss sometimes. Nobody should consider taking my word as the last word on how to aim.

We can all find something to pick apart in the posts of others. The manner in which we do it is how much maturity and graciousness we possess at the time.

One of the ways to spot an "infiltrator" is when a supreme fact which cannot be argued away or diffused, diverted or smokescreened off is "completely ignored" by them after attempting to discredit all other facets of a post/conversation/exchange/rebuttal, etc. If you read this post from start to finish, a grand effort to say the least, you will see several examples of this. Not naming names, you figure out whom.

Example: Humans are 23 chromosome pair creatures and apes are 24 pair creatures. Proof positive that the hoax of Darwinian Evolutionary theory is totally false and that someone, some-when, meaning some advanced race of beings with the ability to genetically alter humans at Genome #2, at some point in the Earth's past, has deliberately created several different strains of 23 chromosome pair humans......... and then, left us to ourselves.

This is NOT ARGUABLE, the joining of 2 chromosomes at Genome #2 is an ABSOLUTE FACT, and only the most ridiculous notions of Darwinian nonsense have ever been offered in explanation in refutation or the topic is completely ignored and some other facet of man's existence is used as a diversion/distraction to point the topic elsewhere.

The next 20 years are going to see the biggest, most intense wars of perception perpetrated against mankind by the supposed rulers of mankind itself.

Stay tuned to this planet, folks, clench your buttocks, it's going to be a bumpy ride!!!! (bits of my own and some stolen dialogue from Harry Potter).

Keep the analytical dissemination going there, OnyxKnight!

As for Kersley, you bought the Sitchin books, read them and put the information presented therein, with a grain of salt, into context, meaning take certain choice things literally and some figuratively at your discretion, because that's how we all learn. Never let other people do your learning for you. If you ate vanilla ice cream for 30 years and someone offered you a chocolate ice cream cone, what's the point of asking a vanilla lover if you should try the chocolate in your hand that you just paid for? Taste and decide for yourself. Nobody, not Sitchin, not Ishtar, not me, can be 100% right or 100% wrong about everything all the time. Find something to discover that others missed, you might.

Cheers,
AT

[Ria]

Hoping Ishtar will come back. The One ,put up a thread on the 3ed of June 2011 'Picture-of ET on a mural in Egypt' also includes the relief of space craft

[davyj0nes]

Another great great thread shot down because questioning the new age mythology is a big no no. Shame really, just the other day i found an interesting video on youtube that talked about the gods are not aliens and the aliens are not gods, and by chance i log into avalon and found this thread.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=V2uOcyWmBn8

the video really got me thinking, and ishtar's posts really expanded my thinking on the subject. I used to believe the gods were aliens, but no longer. The gods are returning, but it wont be on rockets.

[Mark]

It's all about terminology. I know that I, for instance, use the term gods with a lower-case 'g' in order to denote the ancient and potential extraterrestrial presence. In this thread, Ishtar took that to mean that I was talking about ultra-dimensional entities when I wasn't. That's all well and good, sometimes things get lost in translation, no big deal. The language is generally half the problem in cases like this, where people actually believe the same things, its just that our individual perceptions, language usage and knowledge base are not the same as others and we explain things in ways that are not always the clearest. The thread remains useful, not just in pointing out that issue but also the fact that there are a lot of emotions invested these issues. Entire egos.

[Unified Serenity]

Posted by DNA (here)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Z5DhM2OMabY

This really is an excellent interview, thanks for posting it. I love his work.

[Sirius White]

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[kersley]

Posted by Sirius White (here)
Thank you for this topic.

I will come back and read more.

I can tell you right now the Annunaki are not merely psy ops.

Yes the Niburu nonsense is Psy ops, why?

Niburu can navigate its own course. It's not ever 3600 years or whatever, its every 12k years! People need to decipher texts! ALSO, Niburu has changed its course more than once and IF it comes this way, it will be in around 50-100 years or so from now.

The Annunaki are real, as are the beings. And yes some of them are here.

And NO, not all of them agree.

Understanding the truth about the Annunaki will also give you insight into the bible, Lucifer, and the Father God characters which are actually different characters.

For example, the being who saved humanity against the will of the Kingdom ("God" aka An and Enlil), the one who TOLD noah to build an ark (actually, old ET tech that resembled our submarines) was non other than Ea/En.KI. He was given the message by an "angel" from the "God of all" (aka, the Source, or Abba).

The jealous/envious God was Enlil, and there was a time where the Elohim wanted to wipe out the earth.

En.KI was also the one who wanted to give knowledge to humanity, and thus gave them the liberal arts and sciences (and if you look closely, the beginning of all the mystery schools). Hence En.KI is both the "Father" of humanity and also Lucifer, the one who rebelled against the "Kingdom" to save man from his plight.

The Annunaki are like us in their imperfections, they have waged war, and so have we on their behalf (and still do, such as the current Iran/US situation...too sensitive to talk about). They do not all agree and they are not evil enslavers.

Niburu comes, a great deal from Sirius way back in the day. Some say it was a marriage between Orion and Sirius B royalty (I do not know this).

A group of Annunaki are currently very involved with the WingMakers group. They are the ones who took over Mark Hempels site, and claimed it was all "fiction" (this is simply NOT true).

They have bases here, and are behind many groups as THEY are the ones afraid of the homeplanet coming back, thats why there is all this propaganda towards Planet X. They want you to join them in their fear. This includes the weaponization of space, the pinegap facility, and myriads of other things beyond the scope of our comprehension at this point.

YES, most Annunaki stuff is psyops/fear/propaganda.

But ....its bigger than you think it is. And many of them are quite good.

Can you prove any of what you say is true? You speak as tho these are facts? How and why have you come to these conclusions?

[Sirius White]

It doesn't matter.

You know, many people say they are starseeds from these people over there, and those light beings in Pleadies, or whatever is popular these days. But what about Annunak starseeds?

Some of what I said is quite easy to decipher. Look at the "Lost book" of EA/En.ki for example and you will see very obvious references to the bible there that predate it. Among many other stories. Is this fact? Well that depends, but the big picture gains clarity.

And why all this effort to generalize them all as evil or our enemies? Then come the people who see all the Niburu/Planet X propaganda, and thus assume since THAT must be BS, the whole "Annunaki" thing must be BS too.

It's never in the extremes. Everything has truths and untruths. And even what I said, lets just hypothetically say it was true- it would be untrue if you were to see the same "painting" I am.

This is why the "truth" will never be known in any sort of our brain, fact related basis. We keep uncovering new things as we move forward in time. And we aren't capable of "logically" understanding the whole things anyways. It can only be experienced deep within and in some cases- in the abstract.

I used to be one who used to blame them for everything, but not because of Icke, or channeling. But because of my own research/search/experiences. Yet, I am beginning to see it's not really so simple.

There are lots of psy ops out there. Aliens are a part of it. Some people assume because the shadow gov has a secret space program, that all UFO's are simply "Government craft." Some like to think that all mystery school knowledge or old stories (egyptian, sumerian, phenocian, etc) is only allegorical for symbolic for astrology or celestial movements. Never stopping to think that sometimes- both are true. A hyopthetical being in an ancient story can be the name of a star system, or perhaps to a celestial alignment of some astrological value. But, so can that being also have literally existed, and perhaps- in the same way we name streets in the names of Celebrities (taking place of the Old Gods in the human genetic need to externalize authority) and Politicians, so did they.

It all "comes" from somewhere. And aliens is only the "tip of the iceberg."

[kersley]

Posted by Sirius White (here)
It doesn't matter.

You know, many people say they are starseeds from these people over there, and those light beings in Pleadies, or whatever is popular these days. But what about Annunak starseeds?

Some of what I said is quite easy to decipher. Look at the "Lost book" of EA/En.ki for example and you will see very obvious references to the bible there that predate it. Among many other stories. Is this fact? Well that depends, but the big picture gains clarity.

And why all this effort to generalize them all as evil or our enemies? Then come the people who see all the Niburu/Planet X propaganda, and thus assume since THAT must be BS, the whole "Annunaki" thing must be BS too.

It's never in the extremes. Everything has truths and untruths. And even what I said, lets just hypothetically say it was true- it would be untrue if you were to see the same "painting" I am.

This is why the "truth" will never be known in any sort of our brain, fact related basis. We keep uncovering new things as we move forward in time. And we aren't capable of "logically" understanding the whole things anyways. It can only be experienced deep within and in some cases- in the abstract.

I used to be one who used to blame them for everything, but not because of Icke, or channeling. But because of my own research/search/experiences. Yet, I am beginning to see it's not really so simple.

There are lots of psy ops out there. Aliens are a part of it. Some people assume because the shadow gov has a secret space program, that all UFO's are simply "Government craft." Some like to think that all mystery school knowledge or old stories (egyptian, sumerian, phenocian, etc) is only allegorical for symbolic for astrology or celestial movements. Never stopping to think that sometimes- both are true. A hyopthetical being in an ancient story can be the name of a star system, or perhaps to a celestial alignment of some astrological value. But, so can that being also have literally existed, and perhaps- in the same way we name streets in the names of Celebrities (taking place of the Old Gods in the human genetic need to externalize authority) and Politicians, so did they.

It all "comes" from somewhere. And aliens is only the "tip of the iceberg."

The lost book of Enki states that the face on Mars belongs to Ansu who once ruled on Nibiru.. Sitchin went on to say that Ansu bit off Anu penis during a fight to rule nibiru.
The lost book of Enki is FICTION NOT FACTS