Planet X/Nibiru/Tyche/Hercolobus/Elenin

[Ria]

With regard to Sitchin the jury is out as far as I am concerned, interestingly already one asteroid apparently has been deflected. Kerry has some info on this. You could be right regarding keeping it hidden, another possibility if there has been intergalactic fighting, there trying to hide that.

[Andreash94]

i just bought 2 of sichin books and started to read ...should i keep reading?.....and what u say about BobDean (he was a freind of Sitchin )o.o

[Ria]

Well keep an open mind, Ishtar dose not agree with him, and Sumer is one of her subjects being an academic in this field four decades plus.

[Ria]

Sitchen has apparently been seen at the infamous rituals with TPTB allegedly. There will be further readings in the archives here also post question here for Ishtar to respond to. she will help you with links and others hear.

[Ria]

I only know about the Giant Size Watchers, by two completely different mediums who could see them. obviously at slightly higher frequency, I am pleased I did not see them, it would scare the **** out of me.

[DNA]

Posted by Aetheric Traveler (here)
There have been allusions to the Greys being the Watchers. I don't find any evidence to support that contention. I would suspect anyone pushing for it very hard to be a dis-information pusher.

I put much more stock in what people are reporting first hand today than I do in ancient tablets written in dead languages dependent strongly on the translaters and linguists to make the right call.
How do you determine what is pushing very hard? Better to just say you disagree with it and leave the window open rather than get into name calling.
Folks like Jim Sparks give an amazingly detailed story in regards to their abduction.
No claims are made regarding a connection to the Annunaki, but stating they(the greys) have been here for thousands of years and have been involved in genetic projects with humans makes one wonder if the connection is there.
So much name calling.
Can't we just have a civil conversation without the name calling.
Let us agree to disagree on various points. Here is a speaking engagement from Jim Sparks giving a testimonial relating to his experiences.
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Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=lq_MZez4piw

[Heather2017]

Nibiru is a planet. We'll see that for ourselves.

[DNA]

Posted by Aetheric Traveler (here)
Well, I don't have any gold, but the bones I DO have would probably make terrible pendents.

I apologise if you feel this is a dig in the vien of party politics. I don't participate in party politics. I'm niether republican or democrat, but I apologise if the neo-con dig felt aimed at the republican party and this offended you in any way.
I for one don't look at the neo-cons as republicans per se, it seems many folks have successfully in my opinion laid the majority of the evil that has gone in the government for the last thirty years or so at their feet(the neo-cons).
Cathy O'Brien a long time victim of the MKULTRA CIA mind control experiments has first hand testimonial in withnessing evil perpetuated by Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfield and George Bush senior. Her testimonials are a must in my opinion to try and get the whole picture. Cathy O'Brien first hand testimonial
Benjamin Fullford lays most of the evil done in the world at the feet of the neo-cons in his various interviews.
Conner O'Ryan a whistle blower sentry for Area 51 claims Dick Cheney used to come and visit the place and bring visitors to see the dead greys kept there.
In an interview with Dr. Richard Boylan, Colonial Steve Wilson stated that there were 33 levels of top secret. And Colonial Steve Wilson who is the highest level whistle blower I have ever heard of stated that Dick Cheney is at the top of the chain of command as far as the secret government is concerned.
Q33- Maji = Millitary agency for joint intelligence.
Q32- MJ-12 = 36 Members as of 1994.
Q31- Aerospace Technology and Dollars.
Q30- 1010 security squadron. This is given to the Wackenhut Corporations 4 highest officers.
I have a thread on this here. S4 (Area 51) Informers Volume One Wendelle Stevens and Bob Dean
Also, and I don't mean to ramble, but it is pretty conclusive that 9-11 was an inside job, and we all know who was in office at the time it occured. Cheney telling Norad to stand down so they wouldn't shoot the hijacked planes out of the sky. Building seven getting pulled. Martin P Bush being in charge of security for the 9/11 complex, and yes, this is George Bush's brother.

[Ria]

DNA I have had a lot of trouble trying to watch the Jim Sparks material, sound would cut out from 5/13 on wards, I assume TPTB are messing with it.
Was the purpose in putting this out in this thread to show how minds can be played with? if there is another way to have the info I would appreciate it.
One of the things that was repeatedly said by Ishtar is when she goes on her shamanic journeys she protects her self and is surrounded by unconditional love which has a soft euphoric quality about it. Jim on the other hand said that the ET's can appear in different forms and put ideas into your head, yet their presence is very unpleasant, according to Sparks.
p.s., the euphoric thing I have experienced

[DNA]

Posted by Ria (here)
DNA I have had a lot of trouble trying to watch the Jim Sparks material, sound would cut out from 5/13 on wards, I assume TPTB are messing with it.
Was the purpose in putting this out in this thread to show how minds can be played with? if there is another way to have the info I would appreciate it.
One of the things that was repeatedly said by Ishtar is when she goes on her shamanic journeys she protects her self and is surrounded by unconditional love which has a soft euphoric quality about it. Jim on the other hand said that the ET's can appear in different forms and put ideas into your head, yet their presence is very unpleasant, according to Sparks.
p.s., the euphoric thing I have experienced

That is a bummer, I"m four videos in, and it has been awesome so far. I can suggest the coast to coast interview on youtube done with Art Bell, that one was really good.
Also, our own Bill Ryan interviewed Jim Sparks. So I guess we could go with that one.
Also I think it is important to point out that Ishtar is talking about EDs (extra dimensionals) these folks visiting Sparks are actual physical beings.
And I don't mean to sound pessimestic, but I don't know what kind of visualization is going to stop them if they want to pick you up.
As far as the greys projecting a unpleasent presence, I have had a few dreams that included interactions with these folks as a teenager before I had any abductee information, and yes, their presence seems to be terrifying.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7RnMwWyfTwU

[Ria]

Yes I did understand the differences between ED and ETs I was not suggesting visualization would stop them. Only perhaps away to identify a negative ET to a positive one or a negative ET trying to mimic a positive ED. sorry I was not clear.

[RedeZra]

Posted by Ria (here)
Yes I did understand the differences between ED and ETs I was not suggesting visualization would stop them. Only perhaps away to identify a negative ET to a positive one or a negative ET trying to mimic a positive ED. sorry I was not clear.

angels manifest in the Bible and even eat food and wrestle with man and so an entity might appear as flesh and blood but he or she is not necessarily so

this is beyond our rational understanding but my point is that there is no clear cut distinction between ET and ED


in the Bible negative ET ED or spirits flee from Jesus and the Apostles cast out these in the Name of Jesus

so the test or medicine to check the nature of ET ED or spirits is the Name of Jesus



Joe Jordan has been a Mutual UFO Network Field Investigator since 1992 and is the President and co-founder of CE4 Research Group an Alien Abduction investigation and research team

http://www.alienresistance.org/ce4unholycommunion.htm

[Ria]

Redezra, I personally find you difficult to relate to,
Firstly, I am trying to clarifying information about J Sparks.
Secondly. The Bible you bring up over and over in all your post, feels very much like bible bashing.
Thirdly. To be literal about the Bible having been proved many, many, many times that Jesus did not wright the Bible or his Apostles, added to the fact that there are many version of the Bible all pro-porting to be the one true one.
With volumes of miss representation, I do not feel it possible to hold a objective conversation, albeit well meaning.
Fourthly. I have spent a few decades now, looking into a number of different version pertaining to Christ's life.
Fifthly. My self, family and friends, have had angel encounters.
The last two points I bring up, is only to inform you, that I am not completely ignorant on the matter, and I will not be going into my own experiences at this time. Thank you.
I would question that there are distinctions, and ultimately it will not be beyond us to understand all.

[OnyxKnight]

Posted by Ishtar (here)
From that experience, I believe that the stories about the Anunnaki and the 3,600 year old cycle of the Planet Nibiru to be just another psy-ops campaign concocted by a very high level Freemason, Zecharia Sitchin, and created for the reason that all psy-ops campaigns are created, in order to control and dominate the peoples of Earth. The Anunnaki/Nibiru one is very clever, as Sitchin was, for many reasons including:

What you fail to realize (or you have, but you play the exclusion tactics) is that these beings were present in different cultures bearing a different name, not just the "Annunaki", as the Summerian Gods. We are talking about physical beings like ourselves. And if anything, the mythifying tactics used by the general mainstream scholar community is the one "paid"/"sponsored" to tell this in a specific manner.

Another thing is the orbit - For one, such a cycle would place Nibiru as part of our Solar system, of which is not, and also, any person with good enough understanding of math and basic astronomy would clearly see that the cycles where these disasters occur, allegedly caused by the planet Nibiru, are very uneven, and come in very irregular time periods. Furthermore, most of these disasters (excluding several major ones) have to do more with our own Solar System mechanics, rather than invading bodies from space, even less, Nibiru. If you did your own research well, you wouldn't have used the '3600 cycle' as part of your argument, or you would at least point out the irregularities.

Whether or not he was a Freemason, doesn't phase me one bit, to look at him in one way or another. I maintain regular contact with two Freemasons, one who regularly donates money for cancer research projects (and I have checked, and confirmed), and the other one builds shelters for homeless people, and works in a program for asyl seekers (usually women and children who want to find a place to stay in another country, due to socio-economic problems in their native country).

So unlike many, I don't paint all Freemasons with the same brush (something many should at least consider doing at some point in their lives). So him being a Freemason looses significance in this discussion, and is not a strong argument to make.

While you are at it, would you mind explaining how the notion of having the Annunaki being living, breathing beings, would help control and dominate the people of Earth?

Posted by Ishtar (here)

1. It piggy backs on one of the most successful psy-ops campaigns of all time, that of a real dying and resurrecting Sun god
2. It plays on the fact that most people can’t or won’t have time to actually read the texts from the Sumerian cuneiform tablets for themselves

So we are playing on singular and plural of the term "God" now?

Also the dying and resurrecting part - who said the Annunaki died? And subsequently got back from the dead? Even from a strictly mythological standpoint?

You go very far to sell your viewpoint here.

Posted by Ishtar (here)
To elaborate on the first point, in studying mythology, we find that many of the events in the so-called ‘life of Jesus’ had been told many times before, for thousands of years before he was even supposed to have lived. The dying and resurrecting Sun god was an astronomical metaphor for the winter solstice which was passed on in the oral teaching traditions of priest astronomers across Mesopotamia, Egypt, Greece and India when the underwent their Mystery initiations during the Neolithic period (after the last Ice Age).

Maybe the crucifixion is also part of the mythology, right, Roman mythology? It somehow slipped inside the Bible, unknowingly.

There are detailed reports of people who have being prosecuted by the Romans, especially those who managed to stir up things so bad, the Emperor's themselves actually experienced the emotion of fear. Now we can play guesswork as to when the actual event happened, and what was the real name of that person who was crucified and later turned as the core symbol of one of the most widespread religions in the world, but that would be going off-topic. Thing is - as drown in mythology as this character is, there is sufficient evidence that he existed. One that you seem to ignore.

Or that there was advanced knowledge and technology (far too advanced than the level we are depicting our ancestors to have been at that time), and they already knew what was a star, and what was a planet, and what is an 'Earthly City' (as you put it). I'm sure they wouldn't make such stupid mistakes.

Posted by Ishtar (here)
So why did the ancients mix up the teachings of science and the teaching of religion? It was because to them, there was no difference. It is only us today who have been taught to separate science from God or spirituality … and we’ve also been trained through Judaeo-Christianity to see God as a sort of angry, vengeful Jehovah figure.

You can't explain away these things by adding religion to the mix. Yes, there were priests, but besides the priests being the Gods' messengers and intermediate form of communication, the visual appearance of the Gods has been witnessed many, many times by ordinary people living at that time. Whether it was Sumer, or Egypt, or the Ancient Greeks, or what have you.

You can't have, advanced knowledge (transmutation mechanics (alchemy), astronomy, medicine, agriculture, metallurgy, mathematics etc.), and advanced technology as well, both of which are symbols for an intelligent, rational beings, but both of which, by those who possess it, its claimed they were a result by the knowledge passed down by non-human beings (Gods/demigods etc.)

Why would they claim this, if its only myth?

There has been human-God interaction since tens of thousands of years, where most of the communicated have been ordinary people.

Posted by Ishtar (here)
However, that prevailing view is slowly changing and now there are scientists at the Hadron Collider 17 mile-long tunnel in Switzerland looking for the “God Particle”, in other words, the self-organising principle of all life. What they don’t realise it that our early ancestors already knew about this self-organising principle and the ancient Sumerians, Egyptians and Indians called it the Anu. Anu is the oldest word for God or self-organising principle. It is the Spirit at the heart of all matter. And the energetic or spirit products of the Anu (the Children of the Anu) were known as the Annuna, who Sitchin rechristians the Anunnaki.

First of all, you don't seem to know what the mythical "God particle" is. If you did, you wouldn't have used the "other words" elaboration. It has nothing to do with principles or with life specifically.

As a serious researcher, you should have at least read, I dunno ... something out of something? About this matter, in particle physics, before you decided to comment on it, especially in relation to this kind of topic.

Also, while you are at it - why don't you share with the rest what the word Anu means in other cultures since the 'Anunnaki' are not specific to one culture, and lets see how the meaning of the word correlates with the meaning of the word you have ascribed here.

You seem to cherry pick things that fit inside the argument you are trying to get across.

Posted by Ishtar (here)
Anu was also the ‘god word’ in Egypt where many priests were named Anu or Anubis, and the city of Heliopolis (renamed as the City of the Sun by the Greeks) was originally named Anu.

If I go by your way of interpreting things, I could very well consider Anu a living being, harboring colossal, advanced knowledge, and with possession of technology advanced enough to be based on the "God particle" hence, the smacking of the label.

Posted by Ishtar (here)
From this, you will see the Anu takes the shape of two vortexes, one upon the other and also known as the double vortex, or ascending and descending dragons. It is also represented by the double pyramid:

How do you connect Anu with the shape of two vortices?

Posted by Ishtar (here)
I’m sure Zecharia Sitchin was an intelligent man, and so he would have known that nowhere in the Sumerian texts is Nibiru referred to as a planet, but as an Earthly city. Nibiru is mentioned many times throughout the cuneiform clay tablets as a very important city because it is housed a sacred shrine to Anu, the “God Particle”.

Yeah, and the same can be interpreted as a Nibiru colony on Earth, where Anu resided. There is always two ways to look at things.

Besides, as an Intelligent man, he would have guessed that even a teenager, would go and check the Sumerian texts, for confirmation and further details. You also have to know that the concept of 'planet' was quite different back then, then it is today.

Posted by Ishtar (here)
There is also nothing in the Sumerian texts about rockets, other planets or an evil race of Anunnaki who come from outer Space.

Oh really? Lets say there isn't, you listed India as one of your areas of argumentative ammo, as part of the perpetuation of the myth of the "resurrecting god". Explain to me the vedas.

Posted by Ishtar (here)
The Biblical story about the Judaic equivalent, the Elohim, often gets quoted as proof that they came to the Earth and made love with the "daughters of man". But this is a metaphor for how Spirit combines with matter ~ another term for electromagnetic energy. In ancient myths, Spirit is usually depicted as the male principle and Matter (mater, maternal) is represented as female. This story is about the act of fertility that is at the heart of the creation which is electromagnetic.

Yeah, well, the daughters (matter) came from somewhere - "man". You didn't explain that part ... *cough* metaphorically *cough* .... did you?

Or the God that created "man" in the first place. Or the combination of Adam and Eve. Or the combination of Adam and Lilith. Or the combination of Adam and yet another, unnamed woman. Or the fact that Adam is first depicted as a hermaphrodite, androgynous being, and later *puff* it becomes a 'he', a "man".

If you are going to explain all as metaphorical representations of something else entirely, go all the way, not just first base. Be thorough.

Posted by Ishtar (here)
That Sitchin was part of a psy-ops initiative, or at least one that sets out to deceive, is clear from his omissions, from his made-up translations, from his truncated quotes and extracts taken out of context, and from the amount of repetition there is in his copious, confusing to the general reader and complex Earth Chronicles which could also be an early form of NLP with its use of ‘redundant pattern recognition’.

You do know that Sitchin only made the Annunaki and the whole Nibiru thing enter the mainstream a lot more, and that the notion of the Annunaki being an extraterrestrial race was postulated quite sometime before he even considered that theory in the least plausible.
Also, he is hardly the only such person who has read the texts, and has ended up with the same, or at least, similar theory.

Posted by Ishtar (here)
When Sitchin was asked to provide references for his ‘beliefs’, he would wave away the enquirier with ‘it’s all in the books’. There are references and a bibliography of sorts in his books, but they are none to reference the more sensational part of his story regarding the Anunnaki coming from Space on rockets or the “planet Nibiru”.

I agree that the whole "you can find it in my books, go buy them and get the answers" is a very annoying attitude, but Sitchin is hardly the only person using such approach.

Posted by Ishtar (here)
The Annuna or Anunnaki were known as the Aryans in ancient India, and both are translated to Noble Ones. The Anunnaki or Aryans were the original spirits of the Anu, who taught the shaman priests everything they needed to know for survival ~ agriculture, smithery, astronomy, geomancy, sacred geometry etc. But these Anunnaki/Aryan spirits didn’t come to Earth on rockets to teach our ancestors. Even today (but particularly then) shamans learn from the spirits (Anunnaki/Aryans/Elohim/Archangels) through the shamanic trance known as ‘journeying’. It is not a physical journey. Shamans don’t journey by going ‘off-planet’ but by going ‘off dimension’. Going ‘off-planet’ may be fun, but going ‘off dimension’ is even better because it evolves your consciousness to a higher level in a way that no amount of jump rooms to Mars can ever achieve.

Aryan, no matter if you don't see it as physical being, Caucasian, with blue eyes and blonde hair, is still, not something that's been ever suggested to be non-corporeal, or "other-dimensional", like the entities you speak of.

Besides, as a shaman, or a priestess, what have you, you should be aware than evolution of consciousness is not limited to meditation, out-of-body-experiences, astral travel, dimension-piercing, etc., spiritual progress can be achieved just by being spiritually inter-connective with the world around you and filter negative energy (wi-fi, certain radioactive compounds, a lot of radio noise, counter-vibrations, etc.)

Posted by Ishtar (here)
We can go to Mars, or we can go even to the Pleiades or to the Andromeda Galaxy or Sirius, if we could built a rocket or a jump room to get there. But we would still be in this 3D dimension and, therefore, our consciousness would be the same as it is now. We would stay the same in our consciousness but just be in a different place. However, if we learn to journey like a shaman does to other dimensions, then there is an opportunity for self-transformation and spiritual evolution through enhanced consciousness, as well as a greater understanding about the building blocks of this universe.

You cannot travel to other dimensions in the mathematical sense that you are proposing. As somebody knowledgeable of the mechanics of consciousness growth, you should have explained that any evolution or progress towards higher stadiums of awareness/consciousness happen on a mental and spiritual level mostly, and have no physical connection, or a break-off of physical connection while "traveling". In other words, evolution is physical growth and development, and spirituality is growth and development of the spiritual and mental aspect of the individual. Another form of evolution. And it has nothing to do with mathematical representations of space (3rd dimension, 4th dimension, whatever).

Its not at all about transformation, but progress and advancement.

Posted by Ishtar (here)
And so this, in my opinion, is the birthright that has been stolen from us by various psy-ops campaigns over the millennia which include Christianity, Darwinism, Western material science, atheism masquerading as humanism ~ and not least this little beaut from Sitchin about the Anunnaki and the planet Nibiru, which will also make a great psychological foundation for any false flag ET invasion they have planned.

Darwinism? Atheism (masquerading as humanism)?

How do these fit into your argument, elaborate please.

Posted by Ishtar (here)
I feel moved to start this discussion because I so often hear posters talking about the Sumerian gods, the Anunnaki, as if their existence as a race from outer space is a fact. However, from my study of mythology of more than 40 years, plus my memories of a previous lifetime as a priestess of Ishtar in Babylon, plus my experience as a shaman, my understanding of the Anunnaki and Nibiru is very different.

Well, let's see ...

1 - You are not the first one to study mythology;

2 - You are not the first one to study mythology for 40 years;

3 - Your study of mythology for four decades doesn't really mean much, its about how efficient you are in your studies, how many pre-concieved notions you have, and how you come to certain conclusions, and what process did you undergo to get to them, so somebody studying the same for only 20 years, could be more knowledgeable than you are;

4 - There is also one other problem - you are not the only one with past life memories. And many people's past lives are diametrically different than the one you are portraying here, in as simple form as leveling down the Annunaki as myth. What makes your claim any more genuine than the past life memories of hundreds? Many who have experienced things quite differently, and more over - I have to emphasize - have correlated their accounts, for confirmation purposes.

Posted by Ishtar (here)
As a sort of addendum, I’d lke to mention the DVD Thrive.
In my opinion, this DVD has a lot going for it ... apart from the otherwise excellent Nassim Haramein’s insistence that the sacred geometrical symbols which he has discovered on rocks in Egypt must have been brought to Earth by a superior race of spacemen.

To be fair to Nassim, he actually says “this is the only logical explanation to me” and I can understand that that would be the most logical explanation to a person, no matter how academically brilliant, but who has never experienced the shamanic journey to meet the extra-dimensional spirits for guidance, information and healing..

Have you been contacted by ETs? Until you are, you can never make such remarks.
Some of the ETs out there resemble the mythical gods in all its details almost completely, some of which, do resemble them completely.

I understand there are non-corporeal beings (most of which, have been physical extraterrestrial life, until they have evolved beyond the need to hold physicality) but labeling all the Gods from mythology being exactly that is ridiculous to me.

Posted by Ishtar (here)
Even today, we receive this sort of scientific information from the spirits. One of my clients is currently learning vortex mathematics from her spirits in order to create a free energy device with perpetual motion.

That this intelligence and guidance comes from spirits rather than spacemen is much clearer in the ancient Vedic texts where the ‘rishis’ (shamans of India) actually do talk about visiting spirits in other dimensions and learning from them. .

They also speak about physical wars of two or more factions of the God-like beings and demigod beings. Did you forgot to add that part?

Posted by Ishtar (here)
When the shaman journeys through trance into other dimensions he meets beings who we call the spirits, and they are often in human form, and some are in the form of tall, blond human or humanoids.

And why is that?

Why not asian-looking tall humans? Why not arab-looking tall humans? Why not african-looking tall humans?

I see no reason for a spirit to take a particular form even for communication with an ordinary person, even less with a shaman.

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Posted by Ria (here)
Nibiru is very much an Earthly city, and is never described as otherwise. Sitchin lied about this, and people have been making it all up ever since..

Ni-Bu-Ruu - the actual pronunciation of the name, means "Separated/Divided by both".

And 'Tera' would translate as a "try"/"tryout" (attempt), again, hinting on the 'experiment' hypothesis . The reason we associate it with earth (dirt/soil) is because all the building blocks for life can be found in the ground, and allegedly, were used to develop life on this planet before humanity even appeared as evolving humanoids.

Posted by Ishtar (here)
Thanks kersley,

I've always thought that that Enochian battle in the heavens between the forces of 'light' and 'dark' was an allegory for what we now see represented in the yin yang symbol, the ongoing flowing dance of the opposites. In other words, non-dualism.

Any comments on the radioactive effects after the battle?

Also going into more detail, in the vedas?

Allegory ...... Riiiiiiiight.

Posted by Ishtar (here)
Slobbe, we have good firm evidence of man existing 200,000 years ago in South Africa. OK, he was a little rough around the ages, but he created art ... if that's any indication of cognitive advancement.

Modern man, homo sapiens, which is what we are today, is a more gracialised form, but even he's been around since about 25,000 years ago.
There are no significant gaps in the archaeological record.

Yes there are. Care to start a new thread?

There are inconsistencies in the evolution of mankind.

Posted by Ria (here)
I would like more information on the city, Nibiru.
An a side, dinosaurs are running around, in the Out back, in Australia, according to the Aborigines; bunyip, burrunjor, yarru.

You can go and ask them what ever you like, as long as you are quick, they snack on any thing they see. I'm given to understand.

Mokele mbembe, Congo.

[DNA]

Onyxknight only comes in two versions, the pissed off version and the really pissed off version.
When I saw that Knight had responded to this thread I had to go pop some popcorn and make an iced tea in preparation of my reading it.
LOL good stuff. This thread is kind of cool. Lots of good stuff in it.

[DNA]

Hughe just posted this video on it's own thread Klaus Dona On Giants and Other Hidden Discoveries. It is really good, and I just love it. I think anybody who watches it will benefit from it.
Klaus Dona was alerted to the location of a 23 foot tall human skeleton. He brought pieces of it back to Germany, and he displays a piece of it. He talks of some of his peers making some even more fantastic findings.
And if you watch this video it will seem like this instance of a giant being found seems eerilly familiar to the giant Annunaki.
I'm just saying.
They show the isopital bone from the back of the head. And then all of the analagious findings regarding depictions of flying saucers and the logical jump Klaus makes to their being a global civilization.
It's good stuff.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Z5DhM2OMabY

[Ria]

Onyxknight, you are most definitely a fighting man of words, and extremely bright for your years. What I would like to see, is more flowing dialog, so we can take this up - to a more incisive understanding. I believe you would like this to.
Relative to your years, I might be considered an old fart, with time I have lost my desire to duel with words, but never have I lost the desire for the truth. I say this because Ishtar is seiner to me, and may not feel like battling, and just leave the field.[ which kind of looks like she has] I would like to invite her back, would you feel there is merit in this? Not to compromise on your truth, a willingness to engage with due respect and kindness, on all sides. I say this, because I think you have a lot to offer, Ishtar has much to impart too.
[Not just you, I have seen this in all of us] The mexican stand off approach dose not achieve very much.
What do you feel about this?

The Dino thing could be another thread

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[Ria]

DNA, It is a grate vid, but what makes you and others think, it was an Anunnaki. The reason I say this there-are many stories of giant people with benign intent, as well.
I wonder if we are mixing up different races of giants or different species of giant.??????
It would be good if Klaus Dona could show us artifacts while he is talking, they were talking about stuff that was out of shot.
Thank you

[DNA]

Posted by Ria (here)
DNA, It is a grate vid, but what makes you and others think, it was an Anunnaki. The reason I say this there-are many stories of giant people with benign intent, as well.
I wonder if we are mixing up different races of giants or different species of giant.??????
It would be good if Klaus Dona could show us artifacts while he is talking, they were talking about stuff that was out of shot.
Thank you

I agree, but as Klaus was alluding, there have been findings of the same dead language all over the world. In Europe, Iraq, Noth America, South America and Australia and he summized that at one time the earth must have had a world wide society.

Besides, I'm not too married to the label Annunaki. The fables that have been placed on clay tablets or passed on through word of mouth are more like broad strokes on the canvas of history and the truth I'm sure will be far crazier than anything that has been proposed yet.

What is important is this, there were giants, they appeared to have vastly superior technology, and they very well may have had something to do with our genetic tinkering.
We can call them Annunaki or we can call them the "ho ho ho greeen giants". It is the big picture that is important to me, not so much the details.

[BestLion]

I agree, but as Klaus was alluding, there have been findings of the same dead language all over the world. In Europe, Iraq, Noth America, South America and Australia and he summized that at one time the earth must have had a world wide society.

I picked that up as well in the interview. Said some of those languages he never seen before..and many were the same in many different places..like in Easter Island of all places.
I also agree with you on the Annunaki. I wonder if they were just not giants..and all things point to the fact they maybe were..seems giants had elongated skulls "so did the Annunaki" and in the clay rolls found the Annunaki seemed larger then men. i just think now too many pieces of the puzzle missing. And thus we cant really say they were ETs or gods..they may have just been a different race..a race of giants.
Also the 'giant theory' could explain how many of these megalithic monuments were built like Puma Punku. How the hell was that thing made? Stones are 60 tons and made from granite and diarite and they are cut to precision. And then moved.
i am of the opinion that giants lived in the last great civilization, and they tended to be the rulers, and the brains behind civilizations. After the cataclysm that destroyed Atlantis..a small remnant may have survived. or we may actually have some of their DNA..Who not to say man was 5' of ave during the time of Atlantis..and now is 6' on ave tall? Seems all lore talks of giants mixing with humans.