Bill Ryan joining Kerry & David W. with Bill Wood

[jackovesk]

Posted by Limor (here)
A great question from (our) Bill, wether Bill Wood knows what the near future months hold and a slight evasion from him answering it,saying that even if he would know the answer,he would not have shared it as to not impact people's free will. How does that settle with his notion that all timelines are being led to the same one consequence?!

Limor, I understand what you are saying But...

This following Observation is not directed at you personally, it is just a Quick Wake Up call to all of US...

Its 'High Time' we all started to look (WITHIN) for the Answers...

By all means you can be guided by the likes of BW, KC, DW & BR, but please start (EXCERCISING) your own (KNOWING) to find out the Answers to the Questions you already innately know the Answers too...

That's the Whole Point, if we are to reach our (Own Human Potential)..! That is the real (SECRET) that the OWO/PTW don't want us to Act On let alone Manifest..!

Rgs,

Jack

[onawah]

That's a good Vilcabamba story, about the tech climbing the tree in the dark to enable Bill to be online.
Thanks for lending your grounding presence to the proceedings, Bill.

I also found Bill Wood and also DW to be evasive, when news was what I was hoping for.
They both seemed to be redirecting us more toward looking within, having hope and thinking positively rather than relying on news (such as about the ETs helping us and so on).
That sounds right, but it's not so easy in practice.
I wanted my news fix!

Though much of what they talked about was certainly interesting, some of it wasn't really news.

I would still like to hear what more DW knows about the ETs/EDs taking an active role in disabling DUMBs and derailing the Illuminati agenda.
Of all the things that can happen in the real world, I think that would give me hope for things going well this year and leading us to the desirable timeline.

This year is going to be so critical.
Until we get more of an idea of what momentous, secret events they were referring to that will change everything, we still just have to take their word for it.
Though of course, DW left us with the usual teaser, to stay tuned to his website for further developments...
But it's still a lot better than being left completely in the dark.

What a year this is going to be!

[jcocks]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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Hi, Folks:

Link to the raw audio is available for download here:

http://projectavalon.net/Bill_Wood_L...4_Jan_2012.mp3

Much to say. But it's 1.30 am here, and I have to sleep.I'll post again tomorrow.

Of interest: a minor miracle enabled me to take part. The internet was completely disabled here all afternoon and evening, and it was only reconnected 5 minutes before the start of the event by an Ecuadorian internet technician climbing heroically to the very top of an extremely tall tree in the pitch dark and driving rain to successfully reposition the dish antenna. Sometime tomorrow I need to find a way to let him know what a contribution he made.

Goodnight, All --

That's a "sign" if ever I've seen one!

So, do you still have the same view of what is likey to happen this year in light of what was said during the event? Personally it's confirmed a lot of what my intuition has been telling me about this year - which is great

[jp11]

Hello all,

I just completed listening to the entire livestream...and one of the last things Bill Wood had to say was (I'm paraphrasing here) to everyone watching or listening to this, tomorrow morning if you could just do a random act of kindness...it will change the world.

I briefly scanned what was written here. You are each entitled to your opinion, but imho if you cast dispersions on 4 people and you haven't even listened to what was said will not create the world that I would want to live in.

Bottom line, we are, each and everyone of us, more powerful than we have given ourselves credit. What we believe and how we behave, what we say and what we think...creates the world we live in.

If you want to come from negativity (fear) and demean or put down another, so be it...but I would ask you to truly take a moment and ask yourself, will that create a world of love, tolerance, compassion, understanding, allowance, and a sense of well-being for you and the ones you love? It is your free will to express yourself in anyway you choose, but know this...there are consequences to every action.

This was a very profound moment in time and it will change our world. Do you want to be a part of that change for the better of all, or do you wish to continue in your smallness, pettiness, sarcasm, attempts at humor at the expense of another?

Just something to think about. And written frankly and without judgment to the highest degree I am able.

[ViralSpiral]

Posted by onawah (here)
I wanted my news fix!

As intoxicating as that may be, I support the premise that "knowing" could influence/alter the potential. Not necessarily by any individuals here, but collectively. i.e. no need to push the river, it knows where it flows

I am back to the occupy area 51 meme. Is that not also forcing disclosure?

[onawah]

I was just expressing my very human responses to the conversation.
I am actually quite happy with how it went.
It just will take a will (haha--Freudian slip!) awhile to process it all.
I like what Bill Wood said about emptying one's self and just allowing..
(or something to that effect).
Though my first inclination was to want news.
That was very good advice.
And not pushing the river, as well...
But yes, that occupy Area 51 was a bit of a teaser too.
I think perhaps they were letting us know we can relax and avoid taking things too seriously with those kinds of gentle nudges.
And still sounding like we can definitely count on an eventful year!

[Chuck]

Yes, BW dreamed of a million people descending down to area 51 to demand to see what is there.... a game changing scenario. As he said, "They can't kill a million people". Someone in the chat sidebar brilliantly referred to it as "occupy area 51" then BR verbally echoed it.

Occupy area 51 is brilliant! I'm in... right beside a million of you guys... ahem.

[BestLion]

Went to the youtube video by PC. I read the comments..WOW 90% of them say that he wasn't even in the military and is full of BS. I myself am mixed on this I spent 11 years in the US Army, and Ive meet many soldiers who 'act-mannerisms etc" like him. So I can not dismiss him as no former military man. But I also am skeptical. So before I spent 2 hours watching this..I wanted to find out who this guy is..due to all the bad complaints.
Well I did a quick google on this guy to see what others in the UFO community thought..to see if he is valid or not. I tend to take the people in UFO-Alternative community more over people who are follows of current wisdom.
Here is a few comments on the forum ATS>They seem to be mixed on this guy>

The first thing the guy says is that the sole purpose of this interview is to promote a not yet released fictional book that he is writing. How am I supposed to believe anything he says after making a statement like that? Much less, invest over 2 hrs. of my time listening to his story that, for all I know, may be total "fiction" from beginning to end?

Just finished watching this video interview and it has blown my mind in a very positive way.
Seems the Illuminati are losing and will lose control of the games outcome - The best of this video for me is towards the end.
Thanks again for posting

Okay just watched the whole thing. What I get from him stating that it is a work of fiction for a book somehow covers his ass from what he divulges. Also the first 2 hrs are related to his military work in Iraq. From 2 hrs til the end it discusses his involment with Looking Glass. The last 1/2 hr is really worth a watch...

Well i watched it all and really enjoyed the whole interview.
I`ve watched nearly every interview by Bill and Kerry.
Some good some bad.
It hasn`t been as good since they split up. I used to like Bill`s technique of interviewing.

It`s a shame this interview is so long ( not for me ) as i think this thread would have had more replies.
Then we`d have had an idea what a lot of people thought about this guys credentials.
I believe 80 or 90 percent in what he says and some of it`s pretty amazing.

This interview is one of the best i`ve watched from Project Camelot.
Thanks for sharing !

But anyway, I watched the whole thing and I believe it when he said it was fiction. There were alot of inconsistancies in his story, things that someone intimately involved with the systems he described would be knowledgeable in. He gave the wrong the type of explosive in the warhead of a tomahawk, there were only 4 battleships in commision during the 80's. On a ship, the Firecontrolmen have seperate jobs, for example; an FC can work the radars and designators for the missiles and guns but usually would not have anything to do with the CIWS, which he stated he did work on. Believe me, when you are a tech on a system, you have plenty of your own work to do much less do another FC's work. If an FC has been in for a long time, it is possible to hold several system classifications, but he doesn't stike me as a lifer. Also, when you are deployed on a warship, the FC's do their own work, Seal's do their thing and they would rarely deal with each other, much less have a seal operating their systems. And the helicopters heard in the video...why on earth would the military spend thousands of dollars on fuel and manhours when they could just send someone to sit close by and monitor what was said? He appears to me as a person who served a few years then got out and is writing a book with his limited knowledge, no harm done but if he is really representing himself as a Seal, and a Seal that served in a super top secret group, then he will be debunked by the real guys in no time as well as charged for unauthorized disclosure. I hope the book is good and he is not serious about his statements. As for me, I retired from the Navy a little over a year ago, I was a Gunnersmate and dealt with FC's all the time

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[ViralSpiral]

You know what you'll learn after 2 hours BestLion?

Don't depend on anyone else. Trust you intuition. Go within. If you wish to remain sceptical, that too is a choice.

[jackovesk]

Thanks Bill for participating,

I was wondering whether you could 'Kick Off' a Thread outlining the ground rules for discussion and some pertinent 'Points for Consideration' you took out of the (Bill Wood Interview 2), so we can all participate..?

I took 28 pages of notes and am ready to add my 2 cents worth...

Rgs,

Jack

...Update...

Not to worry - This Thread is fine, I just realised not all had seen the 2nd Interview as yet...

[BestLion]

You know what you'll learn after 2 hours BestLion?

Don't depend on anyone else. Trust you intuition. Go within. If you wish to remain sceptical, that too is a choice.

Well I like to read what the interview is about before I listen to it. Alot of this stuff isn't really interesting to me..like the Iraq war..etc..its all conspiracy stuff that just doenst do anything for me personally. I am more into cutting bits..like about area 51 or UFOs ect and building a case..this is more interesting to me then that other stuff.
Stuff about 911- Iraq-Afgan war- police state etc..I just more less ignore that stuff. I'm more interested in the supernatural, and thats why I'm on this forum.

[christian]

Posted by Limor (here)
A great question from (our) Bill, wether Bill Wood knows what the near future months hold and a slight evasion from him answering it,saying that even if he would know the answer,he would not have shared it as to not impact people's free will. How does that settle with his notion that all timelines are being led to the same one consequence?!

Both can be true. When he says he does not want to "impact people's free will", that's different from saying he does not want to "impact the same one consequence". So if he'd give out the information, people might make other decisions, these decisions have an impact, each moment right now and each decision is still important and has consequences, just not for the apparent fact, that the jig is up in the bigger picture. There are still lessons to be learned and evolution and free will and all the rest of it, it goes on and on.

[Tony]

He is talking about our collective beliefs.... karma. We can change that.

[bennycog]

you were very busy jacko.. glad you took notes mate.. i would have been sitting right next to you in class i bet haha

[Tane Mahuta]

Posted by Sesan (here)
Turned off the chat. Much better now. Very interesting so far. David is on his game tonight!

How does one turn the stinky chat thing off?

TM

[Ilie Pandia]

Posted by Limor (here)
A great question from (our) Bill, wether Bill Wood knows what the near future months hold and a slight evasion from him answering it,saying that even if he would know the answer,he would not have shared it as to not impact people's free will. How does that settle with his notion that all timelines are being led to the same one consequence?!

That's a very good observation Limor.

And there are many things in that live stream that do not tie up. If "we have succeeded" anyway why all the secrecy??

A chess master that know s/he has won is not hiding the final moves for fear that the opponent will somehow evade the mate. On the contrary the defeat plan should be made obvious so that the opponent forfeits the game and saves everybody some time.

I appreciate the overall positive and empowering message, but I am a bit tired of predictions and secrets and significant events that nobody talks about a few days later, when other new significant events will happen in the very near future.

It's also interesting to notice that Bill Wood insisted quite a lot on the fact that he did not use the "Looking Glass" and he only looked at other people conclusions (so second-hand data and interpretations).

Hopefully we will find out more "in the near future"

[jackovesk]

Posted by Ilie Pandia (here)

Posted by Limor (here)
A great question from (our) Bill, wether Bill Wood knows what the near future months hold and a slight evasion from him answering it,saying that even if he would know the answer,he would not have shared it as to not impact people's free will. How does that settle with his notion that all timelines are being led to the same one consequence?!

That's a very good observation Limor.

And there are many things in that live stream that do not tie up. If "we have succeeded" anyway why all the secrecy??

A chess master that know s/he has won is not hiding the final moves for fear the the opponent will somehow evade the mate. On the contrary the defeat plan should be made obvious so that the opponent forfeits the game and save everybody some time.

I appreciate the overall positive and empowering message, but I am a bit tired of predictions and secrets and momentous events that nobody talks about a few days later, when other new momentous events will happen in the very near future.

It's also interesting to notice that Bill Wood insisted quite a lot on the fact that he did not use the "Looking Glass" and he only looked at other people conclusions (so second-hand data and interpretations).

Hopefully we will find out more "in the near future"

Hello Ilie,

Questions: Do we have to be 'Spoonfed Everything'..?

Can't we start using our own Intuiton/Intention to clear the Pathway to (T1)..?

Strategic Endeavours on such a 'Wide Scope' are never Won by handing your Strategy/Moves over to those you wish to defeat...

...am I missing something here..?

In fact, if you were to use such a 'Strategy' are you saying the whole story may be fabricated or a stretch of the Truth..?

[Black Panther]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=uXZistami3c

Sting ~ Love is the Seventh Wave

All the bloodshed, all the anger
All the weapons, all the greed
All the armies, all the missiles
All the symbols of our fear
There is a deeper wave than this
Rising in the world
There is a deeper wave than this
Listen to me girl

[Eric J (Viking)]

Full interview here ...

http://www.livestream.com/projectcam...4-c34a3bc066ee

Many thanks to Kerry, Bill, Bill and David ...

viking

[Nerge]

Posted by Ilie Pandia (here)

Posted by Limor (here)
A great question from (our) Bill, wether Bill Wood knows what the near future months hold and a slight evasion from him answering it,saying that even if he would know the answer,he would not have shared it as to not impact people's free will. How does that settle with his notion that all timelines are being led to the same one consequence?!

That's a very good observation Limor.

And there are many things in that live stream that do not tie up. If "we have succeeded" anyway why all the secrecy??

A chess master that know s/he has won is not hiding the final moves for fear that the opponent will somehow evade the mate. On the contrary the defeat plan should be made obvious so that the opponent forfeits the game and saves everybody some time.

I appreciate the overall positive and empowering message, but I am a bit tired of predictions and secrets and significant events that nobody talks about a few days later, when other new significant events will happen in the very near future.

It's also interesting to notice that Bill Wood insisted quite a lot on the fact that he did not use the "Looking Glass" and he only looked at other people conclusions (so second-hand data and interpretations).

Hopefully we will find out more "in the near future"

I've yet to watch the interview but will do so sometime today, but I'd like to respond to what Ilie mentioned here.

If the 'end-game' or destination is now inevitable, as reported, then perhaps that doesn't mean the remainder of the journey we each still have to go through isn't still valuable to us in some way; individually and collectively.

Perhaps there are still important personal lessons and experiences to be learned; lessons which may be missed or bypassed if people are influenced too heavily or given a 'heads-up' regarding certain important events.

For example, a car journey to a City: one way or another you'll get to that City, that is for certain, however, you're pre-warned that your car will break down and cause you a lot of hassle in order to get there. So, you decide to go by plane instead, which is fine, but, say you missed out on meeting a very special person or having a very positive experience if you had decided to go via car?

It wouldn't affect you getting to the City but could cause you to miss something special perhaps; a life-lesson, experience or whatever you wish to call it. Just one way of looking at it perhaps?

In the end who knows, but if nothing else, I doubt it's going to be a dull year but personally I'm staying positive and doing what little I can.