Bill Ryan joining Kerry & David W. with Bill Wood

[Kimberley]

Posted by taizen (here)
Why are people trying so hard to follow the smallest of details and prove or disprove something insignificant to the big picture? ... let's come together and give each other hope instead of more fear porn!!!

Thank you Taizen!! I was going to write something but now I do not have to as you did a perfect job!!

For the record I loved the Bill Wood BR KC DW interview! So full of positive confirmations of information I know personally. I say congratulations we have been able to eliminate a lot of dark potentials that were in the time line going back as early as 5 years ago... Keep up the great work my brothers and sisters...

And for those of you that are throwing barbs, stones, daggers, and venom at Bill Wood I am here to remind you of a universal truth (whether you believe it or not)

What you reap is what you sow!

Much love to us all always in all ways!!

[ROMANWKT]

Posted by Ilie Pandia (here)
I am still neutral on the Bill Wood's credentials, but all the information I've seen here against him, could have been easily fabricated.

Let's assume for a moment that he is what he says he is... do you really expect to find on Google confirmation of his credentials?! If he is who he says he is, what would a "character assassination" operation would look like? Hm?

As for stealing "the SEAL's valor"... what valor? As a non-US human what some may call valor I would call something else... Perhaps comming out as whistle blower has more valor that keeping to the "SEAL's code" and killing other people at some politician's orders?

I understanding digging up the "dirt", checking up the facts, building a case and looking for evidence. What I don't understand is the emotional response to all of this and the need to defend a point of view or the other.

Yes he may be fraud, but yes he may also be "for real" as it were. So far I've seen no "proof" (only copy pasted text) for both point of views.

If we assume that indeed there are black ops, that there is shadow government, then missions that don't live a paper trail that you can simply Google up is not really a stretch. Of course the same argument can be used by me to claim I am a secret agent so you won't find anything on me... I get that too.

So it's a bit of catch 22 here, and I believe that Google is not really the tool to sort out this matter.

Thank you for that Ilie, somebody sensible at last, and you just reminded me that if ever I need a RENT A MOB, I will know exactly where to come.

regards to you Ilie as always
roman

[mountain_jim]

Posted by Kimberley (here)

Posted by taizen (here)
Why are people trying so hard to follow the smallest of details and prove or disprove something insignificant to the big picture? ... let's come together and give each other hope instead of more fear porn!!!

Thank you Taizen!! I was going to write something but now I do not have to as you did a perfect job!!

For the record I loved the Bill Wood BR KC DW interview! So full of positive confirmations of information I know personally. I say congratulations we have been able to eliminate a lot of dark potentials that were in the time line going back as early as 5 years ago... Keep up the great work my brothers and sisters...

And for those of you that are throwing barbs, stones, daggers, and venom at Bill Wood I am here to remind you of a universal truth (whether you believe it or not)

What you reap is what you sow!

....

Or as Robert Hunter, lyricist for the Grateful Dead (poetically) had it in the song, Franklin's Tower:

Whichever way your pleasure tends
if you plant ice you're gonna harvest wind

[Cidersomerset]

At last there are some sensible comments comming forth............At present he is a 'whistle blower' putting his neck on the line in front of the camera.....



Not a back of the head shot or in darkness or a voice on the end of a phone....we must give him credit for that....

He must have known it would be only a matter of time before someone reconised him for good or bad...

So what are his motives ???

[BestLion]

SO...he was in the military, and was convicted of a sex offense by a military court, and was not convicted by a civilian court.. There you have it, we can stop arguing about whether or not he told the truth about anything.

It seems he was in the navy but in the 1990s "not what he claims in 2008 time" He got court martialed and ended up in ft Leavenworth. The claim of his seal experience is bogus, and so is his time frame he never was in Iraqi Freedom opp etc...now that puts us..
I was a Unit Administrator for the US Army full time for 7 years. i worked with orders DD214 forms, I processed new soldier and also kicked out soldiers who were busted for drugs etc.. i was responsible for the paperwork. i worked for a US Army reserve battalion as a full time civilian a GS-07 which is called 'dual status" meant I had to be a member of the army reserve in order to keep my civilian job. If a soldier was convicted of a court martial he received a dis honorable discharge and would no be re-instated back to the armed forces.That means his own story has him busted! He said he was convicted of the rape..this means they in the military sent him to a tribunal , and he was found guilt..this would entail a court martial, and a dishonorable discharge. He would NEVER had made a seal team "which need a top security clearance. He would not have even been reinstated to the armed forces. He would have been demoted, and black lined. That means after his conviction even if he tried to be a seal he would have never been accepted! Heck he wouldn't have even been reinstated to the Navy!
BTW The seals reject something like 80% of people who apply. A man with any 'black' on his record would have been rejected ASAP.

[aranuk]

Posted by jaybee (here)
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how about this for a good idea.....those who want to continue speculating, continue speculating...and those who don't want to...don't.

simple



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Yes absolutely. Let's just keep on speculating, I think it is healthy. If some people agree to stop then that is their choice. Simple. Concentrate on other things. Leave us alone here to do our thang.

Stan

[Cidersomerset]

I think you mean 'thing' Stan.....Though depending on your accent 'thang' will do...lol...

[goinghome2012]

the big picture is omega point approaching and the immersion into 4th dimension reality, it is called the Shift of the Ages. Dec 21, 2012 to March 23, 2013

This happens every 26,000 years. David and Bill know what is coming. We all do deep inside, it will be wonderful. embrace it. There is nothing to fear.

peace

[Kyra]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Kerry personally urged me, very strongly, to read Sean's new book -- the testimony of a recently deceased Montauk Project whistleblower disguised as fiction.

I am aware--as many of you are--that the powers that were control the publishing industry. Therefore many authors are forced to publish factual accounts as works of fiction.

Case in point: When I first read Mutant Message Downunder--the amazing story of one woman's account with one of the last existing aboriginal tribes--it was self-published as non-fiction. It was so wildly popular that the mainstream press approached the author and offered to publish it in order to give her worldwide distribution, and maybe even best-seller status, but with a caveat.

They stipulated that it must be published as fiction, and the reason they gave to the author was that the industry-standard critical reviews would decimate the book and largely prevent its distribution, whereas a label as fiction would elicit good reviews as a highly imaginative work from an emerging author.

Sales exploded, and the little self-published book sold over 370,000 copies. It attracted the attention of HarperCollins who issued a 250,000-copy printing of the book in 1994. Mutant Message Down Under spent 31 weeks on the New York Times bestseller list. Eventually HarperCollins would go on to sell almost a million copies of the book.

I heard this story directly from the author herself, who said that is just how the game is played in the publishing world. She had to trust that people reading the book would read between the lines and somehow understand that this was a true account of her life.

I'm sure many of us have read fictional books that resonated with truth for us.

More evidence of how truth is tightly controlled on this planet.

[Lazlo]

Posted by Ilie Pandia (here)
I am still neutral on the Bill Wood's credentials, but all the information I've seen here against him, could have been easily fabricated.

So it's a bit of catch 22 here, and I believe that Google is not really the tool to sort out this matter.

That's why the follow up by the likes of Don Shipley is so valuable, or a FOIA request. I am pretty good friends with a coworker who spent 24 years in the Navy on submarines. He has a DD-214 and his record shows that he was assigned to x/y/z commands, but nothing of what any of his missions were. Ditto for another friend who was an Army ranger. He took part in operations that are still classified and not officially acknowledged, but there is a record of his military service.

Digging up the truth on a witness/whistleblower like Neal Brockbrader is so incredibly important because it affects the perception and success of the entire disclosure movement. If we did not attempt to separate the wheat from the chaff, the entire movement would have no credibility at all. There has already been far too many disinfo agents that have muddied the waters over the years. This is verifiable and even admitted by the government.

A classic example is when a test pilot for a then classified early jet fighter put on a gorilla mask so that when someone tried to report a propellerless aircraft moving at high speeds and being piloted by a gorilla...everyone laughed and the secret was safe. The same holds true for UFO reports that were really the A-12 Oxcart / SR-71 Blackbird. You had genuinely concerned radar operators and pilots describing sightings of an aircraft that conventional wisdom said could not exist. "There is no such thing as a Mach2+ plane that flyies above 75,000 feet. You are mistaken and your equipment needs to be calibrated and you need to take a recertification." Pretty soon, honest people quit making reports.

If it can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that BW is full of it, it HAS to happen for the good of the entire truth and disclosure movement. If the truth destroys the credibility of PC or Kerry, that is truly unfortunate, but our duty should be to the truth. Nothing more and nothing less.

[Carmody]

Posted by Lazlo (here)

Posted by Ilie Pandia (here)
I am still neutral on the Bill Wood's credentials, but all the information I've seen here against him, could have been easily fabricated.

So it's a bit of catch 22 here, and I believe that Google is not really the tool to sort out this matter.

That's why the follow up by the likes of Don Shipley is so valuable, or a FOIA request. I am pretty good friends with a coworker who spent 24 years in the Navy on submarines. He has a DD-214 and his record shows that he was assigned to x/y/z commands, but nothing of what any of his missions were. Ditto for another friend who was an Army ranger. He took part in operations that are still classified and not officially acknowledged, but there is a record of his military service.

Digging up the truth on a witness/whistleblower like Neal Brockbrader is so incredibly important because it affects the perception and success of the entire disclosure movement. If we did not attempt to separate the wheat from the chaff, the entire movement would have no credibility at all. There has already been far too many disinfo agents that have muddied the waters over the years. This is verifiable and even admitted by the government.

A classic example is when a test pilot for a then classified early jet fighter put on a gorilla mask so that when someone tried to report a propellerless aircraft moving at high speeds and being piloted by a gorilla...everyone laughed and the secret was safe. The same holds true for UFO reports that were really the A-12 Oxcart / SR-71 Blackbird. You had genuinely concerned radar operators and pilots describing sightings of an aircraft that conventional wisdom said could not exist. "There is no such thing as a Mach2+ plane that flyies above 75,000 feet. You are mistaken and your equipment needs to be calibrated and you need to take a recertification." Pretty soon, honest people quit making reports.

If it can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that BW is full of it, it HAS to happen for the good of the entire truth and disclosure movement. If the truth destroys the credibility of PC or Kerry, that is truly unfortunate, but our duty should be to the truth. Nothing more and nothing less.

A general note for everyone, regarding my experiences and ruminations in this area of thinking and influence at any level of connection:

You, as a single human being, will never be allowed to define a point that causes the world to 'flip' about any axis, any axis that is via your creation or direct influence.

It really is that simple.

[BestLion]

If it can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that BW is full of it, it HAS to happen for the good of the entire truth and disclosure movement. If the truth destroys the credibility of PC or Kerry, that is truly unfortunate, but our duty should be to the truth. Nothing more and nothing less.

Well BW condemns his own story in his own words. He admits to the felony of the rape in the 1990s! Yet says he was a Navy Seal in 2000s.. .. NO WAY IN HECK! 85% of all candidates who want to be seals are rejected, and anyone with a criminal record of any sort is rejected on the spot. NUFF SAID! This is a top secret clearance to even get into the seals. And the seals would have never accepted a man with any type of felony!
This man is 100% full of crap! And yes it is now out in the open and once all the stuff on BW does surface it is going to really hurt the credibility of PC.
BTW he is now also popping up on military forums and other sites...and many refer back to what Don said about him..the pile of manure is getting larger on this clown.

[Cidersomerset]

I have no problems with what some of you are trying to do and I'm sure your motives are protective of the community,,,
and if you are all right i congratulate your efforts.....But it is comming over to me as a 'lynch mob' lets cool down and let the 'Marshall' arrive and
the 'posse' can stand down for a while...........Theres no need for the credibility of Camelot or Avalon to be put on the line over this, he is only
a potencial 'whistleblower' he has not given us any revelations that are not already out there, just possibly able to tie one or two together...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=gf3CcZUpXRo

[Kimberley]

Posted by 000 (here)
Essentially, now, the more people who awaken themselves through critical thinking + intuition, the more coherent and strengthened this shift becomes. This is irreversible. Once there is so much momentum behind something it shall just keep going until it reaches a state in which it can comfortably come to rest. That comfortable state of rest to be reached in this case it total global freedom via people taking responsibility for themselves and having compassion for each other. No one should even take my word for it. Just watch and live your lives It is so much bigger than words on a forum and it is unstoppable.

So go ahead debunkers, do all the damage you wish, it shall not cause more than the tinniest of ripples in the larger scheme of things. Signal is king in a sea of noise.

000 Great post thank you!! There is no stopping the run away train!! Congratulations!!

[winston smith1971]

Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
Great interview i'm 2hrs in and the question of reality and 'us' individual human creators ....creating everything in the universe and our non physical is much
larger than our physical....we have no idea of time or physics.... parrallel worlds , portals , wormholes are all open.....
All this and much, much more is in the Ion material which he has been disclosing for the last two years....

The secret as far as can I see , is as simple as we are all gods !!!!!

No Mr..Big out there somewhere it is in us all !!!! and due to the 'digit meme' we are
becoming aware of this and able to access knowledge already in everyone......

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On the cautious side, its still early and he has deffinateley got David in his 'keep net'
hook,line and sinker......With the recent threat on David and some of his claims of late
it does look like Bill is to good to be true !!!!

But Hey ....Lets stay 'Buzzing' for the momment and see what happens and it has
given me a infusion of ' Disclosure energy '.........

Also I think Ion is back on cashflow live tonight 7.00pm GMT....11am PT...
http://www.achieveradio.com/cash-flow/

Should be fun......

(Oh and the lazer crumbling concrete 9/11 anyone !!)per judy wood...



http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_..._of_Space.html

Getting carried away now...LOL....Steve

Well spotted Steve 9/11 laser?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=6w-ql8msl0U

[Lazlo]

Posted by BestLion (here)

If it can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that BW is full of it, it HAS to happen for the good of the entire truth and disclosure movement. If the truth destroys the credibility of PC or Kerry, that is truly unfortunate, but our duty should be to the truth. Nothing more and nothing less.

Well BW condemns his own story in his own words. He admits to the felony of the rape in the 1990s! Yet says he was a Navy Seal in 2000s.. .. NO WAY IN HECK! 85% of all candidates who want to be seals are rejected, and anyone with a criminal record of any sort is rejected on the spot. NUFF SAID! This is a top secret clearance to even get into the seals. And the seals would have never accepted a man with any type of felony!
This man is 100% full of crap! And yes it is now out in the open and once all the stuff on BW does surface it is going to really hurt the credibility of PC.
BTW he is now also popping up on military forums and other sites...and many refer back to what Don said about him..the pile of manure is getting larger on this clown.

One point of clarification, I do not believe that BW ever said that he was in the SEALs in the 2000's. He said that he was court martialled in the 90's while already a SEAL and was released on his 10 year anniversary date of enlistment.

[winston smith1971]

He could be a billy bull S*** but we will find out soon both he and David Wilcock state EVENTS will happen long before Dec21st 2012 that show us the nature of reality and Quote" will make disclosure such a miniscule thing compared with these events" So lets hold judgement and see what we shall see. I find it comforting that various people seem to be coming to the same conclusion that we live in a digital reality and love is the only thing that matters, i do find this a struggle when some idiot cuts you up when driving but i am trying my hardest to live by this concept even faced with the unarmed combatants in a battle of wits.

[DreamsInDigital]

Also wasn't he intimating that the charges of rape/felony were false and he was framed? Or was I literally the only one that caught that little important part of the information he put out.

[BestLion]

Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)
Also wasn't he intimating that the charges of rape/felony were false and he was framed? Or was I literally the only one that caught that little important part of the information he put out.

All convicted felons claim they are innocent. I had a friend when i was in the Army he was a security guard at a max security prison. He would say even the murderers rapist, child molesters all say they were framed. They would swear on the Bible or on the tomb of their dead grandmother that they were innocent.
The fact of BW is he was convicted. And what appears to have been sexual rape of a 12 year old 7th grade school girl.

[winston smith1971]

Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)
Also wasn't he intimating that the charges of rape/felony were false and he was framed? Or was I literally the only one that caught that little important part of the information he put out.

Yes that is what he stated. I even think that the state it happened in now has a age 16 age of consent.If he is pucker then obviously his SEAL training allowed him not to go completely Tonto when they pumped him full of psychotropic drugs , i feel the average person would have never of recovered. oh and by the way i believe the age of consent in Vatican city is 12...