Bill Ryan joining Kerry & David W. with Bill Wood

[christian]

Posted by Khaleesi (here)
No one here that is willing to believe him has touched on the FACT that has been brought up SEVERAL TIMES that this guy disobeyed orders and destroyed a million dollar weapon. Then they entrusted him with more million dollar weapons as punishment? PLEAAAAAASE explain that one away!!!! If you can give me a cogent argument for that I will give in. They trusted him to obey orders after disobeying? Trusting him not to strike an area where oh let's say hmmmm the President was coming to visit?

How about: "Do as we tell you or we send you to prison for life and then torture you"

Posted by 13th Warrior (here)

Posted by chiquetet (here)
From what is listed at offendex, his offense is called 99.99m - that means he was convicted while in the military.

""99.99" as a crime code on a State sex offender registry usually just means that the crime is not on that State's penal code - which would be the case if he was convicted at court martial under the UCMJ rather than under your State penal code.

What the actual crime was would require you to discover the code in the UCMJ he was convicted of."

The "m" in "99.99m" means military, if you google "offendex 99.99m" you will have three results, he is of course one of them. For the other two it explicitly states "military", for some reason Bill's record is not complete there, go figure.

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

Posted by chiquetet (here)

Posted by Khaleesi (here)
No one here that is willing to believe him has touched on the FACT that has been brought up SEVERAL TIMES that this guy disobeyed orders and destroyed a million dollar weapon. Then they entrusted him with more million dollar weapons as punishment? PLEAAAAAASE explain that one away!!!! If you can give me a cogent argument for that I will give in. They trusted him to obey orders after disobeying? Trusting him not to strike an area where oh let's say hmmmm the President was coming to visit?

How about: "Do as we tell you or we send you to prison for life and then torture you"

Posted by 13th Warrior (here)

Posted by chiquetet (here)
From what is listed at offendex, his offense is called 99.99m - that means he was convicted while in the military.

""99.99" as a crime code on a State sex offender registry usually just means that the crime is not on that State's penal code - which would be the case if he was convicted at court martial under the UCMJ rather than under your State penal code.

What the actual crime was would require you to discover the code in the UCMJ he was convicted of."

The "m" in "99.99m" means military, if you google "offendex 99.99m" you will have three results, he is of course one of them. For the other two it explicitly states "military", for some reason Bill's record is not complete there, go figure.

Wow very helpful thank you. I had been trying to find some record of his conviction.

[winston smith1971]

Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
Thanks Robbie for the vids on lasers I know it is geting lost in the general hubbub of this thread, though still very valid as BW talked about them
and i think ,there is no doubt that black ops weaponry is way more advanced, if they are showing these impressive weapons in the open....

PMS.405 the US Naveys electronic warfare branch.....I have not heard of that , though obviously official....

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=aoAa_B2kRuo

Its not a fantasy theory anymore .....definately possible....

Excellent vid Steve you cant just see how a solid steel column turns into dust just not possible with aviation fuel. I mean for GOD SAKE the planes hit near the top how the hell does a building turn to dust, they didn't hit the bottom. Well spotted BTW when Bill Wood said about a Million watt laser i didn't register until you pointed it out. This vid is good as the guy says where is all the office furniture, PCs, photocopiers, phone vending machines etc.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=NX_UKdqoa_o

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=NX_UKdqoa_o

[Lazlo]

Posted by AlternativeInfoJunkie (here)

Posted by bestlion (here)

so...he was in the military, and was convicted of a sex offense by a military court, and was not convicted by a civilian court.. There you have it, we can stop arguing about whether or not he told the truth about anything.

it seems he was in the navy but in the 1990s "not what he claims in 2008 time" he got court martialed and ended up in ft leavenworth. The claim of his seal experience is bogus, and so is his time frame he never was in iraqi freedom opp etc...now that puts us..
I was a unit administrator for the us army full time for 7 years. I worked with orders dd214 forms, i processed new soldier and also kicked out soldiers who were busted for drugs etc.. I was responsible for the paperwork. I worked for a us army reserve battalion as a full time civilian a gs-07 which is called 'dual status" meant i had to be a member of the army reserve in order to keep my civilian job. If a soldier was convicted of a court martial he received a dis honorable discharge and would no be re-instated back to the armed forces.that means his own story has him busted! he said he was convicted of the rape..this means they in the military sent him to a tribunal , and he was found guilt..this would entail a court martial, and a dishonorable discharge. He would never had made a seal team "which need a top security clearance. he would not have even been reinstated to the armed forces. he would have been demoted, and black lined. That means after his conviction even if he tried to be a seal he would have never been accepted! Heck he wouldn't have even been reinstated to the navy!
Btw the seals reject something like 80% of people who apply. A man with any 'black' on his record would have been rejected asap.

OH MY GOD! DUDE! You are missing the whole entire POINT! Just because you were in the army for 7 years and you think you "KNOW" about how the navy seals operate doesn't mean you know how bw's specific alleged secret team works! We are talking about a military that works for a government that allows satanists and pedophiles to operate as politicians and commit their crimes at the highest levels of government. Do you really think a military who works for that kind of government would really care about letting someone who had sex with a sixteen year old into their elite secret team? Hell, the satanist / pedophile higher ups would probably see it as a PLUS!! Are you really claiming that you know exactly how the shadow government and it's secret team military operatives conduct themselves???? YOU DON'T KNOW HOW THE SHADOW GOVERNMENT OPERATES. PERIOD. The only way you could know that is if you were a shadow government operative. But i don't think you are. I just think you are confused and naive about how our government and military work in secret.



Update:

Haha I took a lesson from jackovesck on that one! Red type helps get the point across. Word to you Jack!

Ummmm....That argument works both ways.

[sleepy]

"xxxx xxxxx

[Kyra]

Posted by AlternativeInfoJunkie (here)
YOU DON'T KNOW HOW THE SHADOW GOVERNMENT OPERATES. PERIOD. The only way you could know that is if you were a shadow government operative.

I got a taste for it. I worked for a Rockefeller organization for 6 years. They hired an ex-Army intel officer to be in charge of keeping computer records on all employees ... in order to monitor, create files for offensive / defensive means, and to create an atmosphere of non-trust, so we would not sue for wrong-doings on the part of the corporation.

As we understand that the entire cabal is run like a gigantic mafiosa ... digging up "dirt" on everyone, with knowledge of family and personal habits and weaknesses, in order to entrap and enforce ...

Then doesn't it make sense that if a whistleblower comes forward, they would:

1) immediately seek to discredit them through multiple means

2) set them up as criminals through entrapment, paying witnesses to lie (using a large army of sworn masons or illuminati or disassociated mkultra members)

3) direct shills onto multiple websites and message boards and forums to spread disinfo, breed contradictions, openly discredit, and generally do everything possible --- for the sake of damage control --- to marginalize the whistleblower?

FOLKS, come on, this is standard COINTELPRO policy ...

The objective seems to be to attack and “neutralize” those who are seeking the answers. Those who are sincere, who do bona fide research and seek to explicate the truth, are infiltrated, attacked, and marginalized according to standard COINTELPRO procedures.

Link

We've seen it all before, so let's use our innate discernment, scan a source's vibrational frequency, and regardless of the personal attacks upon them, discover if their message resonates as truth for you.

To discredit and marginalize any individual who seeks to reveal the truth should actually function as a HUGE CLUE --- because TPTW are trying so furiously to get this one and that one to discredit a player in this drama --- in order to turn public opinion away from the true sources of criminal activity --- makes me think that if the messages of the individual were baseless, no such attack would be forthcoming.

Once we become AWARE of something, and CALL IT OUT (as in, "you are made" ... to someone following you) ... then the tactics usually switch into a new mutation.

Watch and observe.
..
.

[Cidersomerset]

Looking at that column on the right hand side crumble and literally turn to dust is eye an opening , even though we have all seen it before
its meaning is more significant imho....I know others have already pointed it out on other threads but there may be more people looking
in and it will give them food for thought.....

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=aoAa_B2kRuo

Your right that million watt laser is a another eye opener if it exists, and the above
clip suggests it could ..imho...

[TargeT]

Posted by chiquetet (here)

Posted by TargeT (here)
it is so highly improbable (BASED ON HIS TESTIMONY LIVE IN THIS VERY INTERVIEW!!!!) that he ever served as his contradictions are blatantly obvious to the military community.

From what is listed at offendex, his offense is called 99.99m - that means he was convicted while in the military.

Appologizes, I meant "served as a seal" clearly he was in the military for a bit.

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

Posted by Lazlo (here)

Posted by AlternativeInfoJunkie (here)

Posted by bestlion (here)

so...he was in the military, and was convicted of a sex offense by a military court, and was not convicted by a civilian court.. There you have it, we can stop arguing about whether or not he told the truth about anything.

it seems he was in the navy but in the 1990s "not what he claims in 2008 time" he got court martialed and ended up in ft leavenworth. The claim of his seal experience is bogus, and so is his time frame he never was in iraqi freedom opp etc...now that puts us..
I was a unit administrator for the us army full time for 7 years. I worked with orders dd214 forms, i processed new soldier and also kicked out soldiers who were busted for drugs etc.. I was responsible for the paperwork. I worked for a us army reserve battalion as a full time civilian a gs-07 which is called 'dual status" meant i had to be a member of the army reserve in order to keep my civilian job. If a soldier was convicted of a court martial he received a dis honorable discharge and would no be re-instated back to the armed forces.that means his own story has him busted! he said he was convicted of the rape..this means they in the military sent him to a tribunal , and he was found guilt..this would entail a court martial, and a dishonorable discharge. He would never had made a seal team "which need a top security clearance. he would not have even been reinstated to the armed forces. he would have been demoted, and black lined. That means after his conviction even if he tried to be a seal he would have never been accepted! Heck he wouldn't have even been reinstated to the navy!
Btw the seals reject something like 80% of people who apply. A man with any 'black' on his record would have been rejected asap.

OH MY GOD! DUDE! You are missing the whole entire POINT! Just because you were in the army for 7 years and you think you "KNOW" about how the navy seals operate doesn't mean you know how bw's specific alleged secret team works! We are talking about a military that works for a government that allows satanists and pedophiles to operate as politicians and commit their crimes at the highest levels of government. Do you really think a military who works for that kind of government would really care about letting someone who had sex with a sixteen year old into their elite secret team? Hell, the satanist / pedophile higher ups would probably see it as a PLUS!! Are you really claiming that you know exactly how the shadow government and it's secret team military operatives conduct themselves???? YOU DON'T KNOW HOW THE SHADOW GOVERNMENT OPERATES. PERIOD. The only way you could know that is if you were a shadow government operative. But i don't think you are. I just think you are confused and naive about how our government and military work in secret.



Update:

Haha I took a lesson from jackovesck on that one! Red type helps get the point across. Word to you Jack!

Ummmm....That argument works both ways.

But... i don't claim to know how the shadow government works. I just submit that nobody knows except for maybe those who have worked within it. and even they probably don't have a very clear picture of how it works because, based on whistle blower testimony, the shadow government seems to be highly compartmentalized.

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

Posted by Kyra (here)

Posted by AlternativeInfoJunkie (here)
YOU DON'T KNOW HOW THE SHADOW GOVERNMENT OPERATES. PERIOD. The only way you could know that is if you were a shadow government operative.

I got a taste for it. I worked for a Rockefeller organization for 6 years. They hired an ex-Army intel officer to be in charge of keeping computer records on all employees ... in order to monitor, create files for offensive / defensive means, and to create an atmosphere of non-trust, so we would not sue for wrong-doings on the part of the corporation.

As we understand that the entire cabal is run like a gigantic mafiosa ... digging up "dirt" on everyone, with knowledge of family and personal habits and weaknesses, in order to entrap and enforce ...

Then doesn't it make sense that if a whistleblower comes forward, they would:

1) immediately seek to discredit them through multiple means

2) set them up as criminals through entrapment, paying witnesses to lie (using a large army of sworn masons or illuminati or disassociated mkultra members)

3) direct shills onto multiple websites and message boards and forums to spread disinfo, breed contradictions, openly discredit, and generally do everything possible --- for the sake of damage control --- to marginalize the whistleblower?

FOLKS, come on, this is standard COINTELPRO policy ...

The objective seems to be to attack and “neutralize” those who are seeking the answers. Those who are sincere, who do bona fide research and seek to explicate the truth, are infiltrated, attacked, and marginalized according to standard COINTELPRO procedures.

Link

We've seen it all before, so let's use our innate discernment, scan a source's vibrational frequency, and regardless of the personal attacks upon them, discover if their message resonates as truth for you.

To discredit and marginalize any individual who seeks to reveal the truth should actually function as a HUGE CLUE --- because TPTW are trying so furiously to get this one and that one to discredit a player in this drama --- in order to turn public opinion away from the true sources of criminal activity --- makes me think that if the messages of the individual were baseless, no such attack would be forthcoming.

Once we become AWARE of something, and CALL IT OUT (as in, "you are made" ... to someone following you) ... then the tactics usually switch into a new mutation.

Watch and observe.
..
.

Hear! Hear!

[TargeT]

Posted by Ilie Pandia (here)
The "Shadow Government" for a lack of a better word, is not inefficent or stupid at all. They've managed to keep a lot of secrets from us, and indoctrinate us into "following policy".

How can you make an absolute statement like that?

ever worked with the regular government, think they completely redesigned thier entire system? if htey are so efficent why do we even know it exsists (FYI, I do NOT know it exsists, I've heard the term bandied about & it is logical that something that could be labeled "shadow government" is real.. though I highly doubt its some super efficent orginized group with a clear goal, probably more likely is its a bunch of competing agencies with little to no over sight trying to acomplisgh goals that have a TWIST of higher agenda in them.... enough that the participants would think they are still doing "good" in some form)

I've seen enough government and military to think less that they are some huge powerful thing to be feared & more that it illistrates how easily "controlled" we are via concepts, ideas, and false ideas.

Posted by AlternativeInfoJunkie (here)
This is the same argument I hear from people who are skeptical about 9/11 being an inside job. "well why would the government blow up the buildings? that would make them much more likely to get caught!" Just because we can't comprehend the reasoning behind a certain action taken by a certain government agency or group who has information that we are not privy to, does not mean that there in no reason for them to take that action.

P.S. I took the capitalizations off. I agree I was getting a little riled up. My bad Ilie and Paul. My apologies to khaleesi as well.

the twin towers had a very good reason for being blown up, it was money.... and the reason came from many directions.... Money in the towers, the money it would cost to demo the asbestose covered steel frame (BILLIONS!) the insurance money, the Porta Authority would not allow a demolition etc...

None of these are difficult topics when enough time is spent working through the facts / ideas / postulations (as I hope we are doing here in this thread)

If something is a mystery or magical or ESOTERIC... it just means you don't understand it enough yet

[Heartsong]

I listened to both interviews. Some was credible some not.
What sounded fishy to me was his analogy about turning something around - he said something like "driving a boat"
Wouldn't it be more Navy-like to say "steering a ship"?
this was in the second interview about half way.

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

Posted by TargeT (here)

Posted by Ilie Pandia (here)
The "Shadow Government" for a lack of a better word, is not inefficent or stupid at all. They've managed to keep a lot of secrets from us, and indoctrinate us into "following policy".

How can you make an absolute statement like that?

ever worked with the regular government, think they completely redesigned thier entire system? if htey are so efficent why do we even know it exsists (FYI, I do NOT know it exsists, I've heard the term bandied about & it is logical that something that could be labeled "shadow government" is real.. though I highly doubt its some super efficent orginized group with a clear goal, probably more likely is its a bunch of competing agencies with little to no over sight trying to acomplisgh goals that have a TWIST of higher agenda in them.... enough that the participants would think they are still doing "good" in some form)

I've seen enough government and military to think less that they are some huge powerful thing to be feared & more that it illistrates how easily "controlled" we are via concepts, ideas, and false ideas.

Posted by AlternativeInfoJunkie (here)
This is the same argument I hear from people who are skeptical about 9/11 being an inside job. "well why would the government blow up the buildings? that would make them much more likely to get caught!" Just because we can't comprehend the reasoning behind a certain action taken by a certain government agency or group who has information that we are not privy to, does not mean that there in no reason for them to take that action.

P.S. I took the capitalizations off. I agree I was getting a little riled up. My bad Ilie and Paul. My apologies to khaleesi as well.

the twin towers had a very good reason for being blown up, it was money.... and the reason came from many directions.... Money in the towers, the money it would cost to demo the asbestose covered steel frame (BILLIONS!) the insurance money, the Porta Authority would not allow a demolition etc...

None of these are difficult topics when enough time is spent working through the facts / ideas / postulations (as I hope we are doing here in this thread)

If something is a mystery or magical or ESOTERIC... it just means you don't understand it enough yet

Oh my god. I have an understanding of the possible motives for controlled demolitioning (new word!) the twin towers and building 7. I was trying to explain the simpleton's point of view on the subject. They can't believe that their own government would do that to their own people so you have to play little word games with them and be careful not threaten their paradigm too much or else their minds will shut down and the debate will be over. You have to slowly chip away at their paradigm instead of pulverizing it with a sledge hammer. Like for example you suggest "well they killed their own people basically for money and resources and to keep us afraid so we will accept their aggressive agenda to keep us enslaved and controlled." you can't say that or else they will no longer be receptive to the information you are trying to present. I have tried to explain it simply to people like that but it doesn't work. you have to operate within their paradigm and be careful not to say key words that will make their minds shut down. like "illuminati" or "shadow government" (haha), or "inside job" do you see what i'm saying? I wasn't saying that I can't comprehend the motives for blowing up the towers. I'm saying that some people can't comprehend the motives even if you explain it to them simply. see what i mean? I can use my understanding to explain it simply but that doesn't mean that the simpleton will accept a simple explanation because their mind control programming is actually very complex.

[DreamsInDigital]

you'd call it fishy just because of a difference in terminology? Yet, Boat and Ship in many peoples minds means the exact same thing. Isn't that just nit picking? I mean really I could literally use the term "riding a horse" or "driving a car" I do both, they both pretty much mean the same thing, other than one is an inanimate object and the other has a mind of it's own. But both still ultimately require some refinement of interaction or communication. Or they do end up going all willy nilly over the place.

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

Posted by Heartsong (here)
I listened to both interviews. Some was credible some not.
What sounded fishy to me was his analogy about turning something around - he said something like "driving a boat"
Wouldn't it be more Navy-like to say "steering a ship"?
this was in the second interview about half way.

Yea I have to agree with dream in digital. That is a pretty silly technicality that doesn't mean much IMO.

[TargeT]

Posted by AlternativeInfoJunkie (here)
I'm saying that some people can't comprehend the motives even if you explain it to them simply. see what i mean?

I'm sorry, while I did quote your post I was not really speaking to you in that responce, I'm very cognicent of the public nature of these posts and generaly structure my writing for larger audiences.

I used you to make my own point, I apologize

Posted by AlternativeInfoJunkie (here)

Posted by Heartsong (here)
I listened to both interviews. Some was credible some not.
What sounded fishy to me was his analogy about turning something around - he said something like "driving a boat"
Wouldn't it be more Navy-like to say "steering a ship"?
this was in the second interview about half way.

Yea I have to agree with dream in digital. That is a pretty silly technicality that doesn't mean much IMO.

but it IS based more on fact than any information on "project looking glass" (I'm not very well versed in this topic, but I guarentee you there is no hard evidence right? just hear-say? I'd put money on that being the case, though that does not prove or disprove much really, but it IS a factor.....) or many of the other things we discuss here... so as far as "silly goes" when we work with such slippery topics any gripping point (such as terminology used, manarism, body language, lack of documentation (or false documentation) etc..) is really all we have to work with as far as Discernment is concerned. (and thats what I see this thread as.. an exersize in discernment).

I mainly act on my intuition then find reasons to that others can accept to explain my position..

I FEEL he is a fraud (same with wilford and fulcock) and as such I start to analyse what is offered... the whole picture includes "silly technicalities" as well

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

Posted by TargeT (here)

Posted by AlternativeInfoJunkie (here)
I'm saying that some people can't comprehend the motives even if you explain it to them simply. see what i mean?

I'm sorry, while I did quote your post I was not really speaking to you in that responce, I'm very cognicent of the public nature of these posts and generaly structure my writing for larger audiences.

I used you to make my own point, I apologize

Yea. Ok. I was just saying that i agree with you that there is a good reason for them having been blown up. Just wanted to make it clear that I am not one of those people that can't comprehend the motives. no worries.

[Lazlo]

Posted by AlternativeInfoJunkie (here)

Posted by Lazlo (here)

Posted by AlternativeInfoJunkie (here)
We are talking about a military that works for a government that allows satanists and pedophiles to operate as politicians and commit their crimes at the highest levels of government. Do you really think a military who works for that kind of government would really care about letting someone who had sex with a sixteen year old into their elite secret team? Hell, the satanist / pedophile higher ups would probably see it as a PLUS!!

Ummmm....That argument works both ways.

But... i don't claim to know how the shadow government works. I just submit that nobody knows except for maybe those who have worked within it. and even they probably don't have a very clear picture of how it works because, based on whistle blower testimony, the shadow government seems to be highly compartmentalized.

How do you know all of these claims that you have made are true? I'm not picking on you here, I actually do believe that there are some sick puppies in positions of power. But the argument that you know these things is based upon the same logic as what BestLion knows.

This is from a post that I have made previously, and perhaps we all need to be reminded of this story along about here somewhere :

A student begged of his master: Please master, tell me where I may find truth.

The master replied: Where do you think that you may go to find truth, if you cannot find it here, now?

Student: Then tell me master, what is truth?

Master: What is the ocean?

Student: It is the great salty sea which encircles the whole of the world.

Master: To a fish, the ocean is a translucent palace. To a man in a boat, it is a great circle extending to the horizon in all directions. To a heavenly being, it is a shimmering string of jewel-like reflections. The ocean has the capacity to be all of these things, and yet is none of them. We force our interpretations to fit a limited repetoire of contexts.

[Butangeld]

I don't think there is anything wrong with an 'indiscriminate act of kindness'

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=tNWTaqFexSk

[modwiz]

Posted by TargeT (here)

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I've seen enough government and military to think less that they are some huge powerful thing to be feared & more that it illustrates how easily "controlled" we are via concepts, ideas, and false ideas.

It cannot be overemphasized how poignant this comment/observation of your is. It is the main control mechanism. It is the force multiplier they employ to counter their smaller numbers and abilities.

I hope my agreeing with you does not diminish this excellent point made by you.