Bill Ryan joining Kerry & David W. with Bill Wood

[Cidersomerset]

I just remembered that.......Thats why he is not here .....Sorry Rob ..good luck with what ever you are upto if you are looking in.....Steve

[christian]

Just found that, forgive me for being off topic:

[modwiz]

For me, with BW it is the message, delivered in the last half hour of the video. The messenger is not the message and confusing them has cost us time and energy. My best analogy is, I give a courier a letter/message to deliver to another party across town. On his way across town he kills some people, ducks into an alley and has sex with someone that some may take extreme exception to, leaves the alley and kills a few more people before arriving at his destination with the letter/message. The recipient has some information regarding this courier, they have been informed of the homicide and improper sexual activity that the courier has engaged in while in transit. The recipient opens the package and finds very good news inside, news that has been very much hoped for, but turns to the courier and says, "This message is utterly useless to me, you sir, are a criminal and a murderer, and this information is now worthless".

I'll take the good news, it agrees with my vision of the future. It agrees with a vision/message that another Bill received and has shared with us.
Just being true to myself and what I see. It is all I can do with this situation and information besides cast a dollar vote.

[Nerge]

I think this is going to be an interesting week, with what BW has stated he will disclose at the next interview; the Vegas situation and which ex-seal is behind all of this.

If this is in fact accurate then I would think certain people would be very worried this week and looking to prevent this - we'll see what happens (or not).

As for the request for a donation business; it has my support as I wish to support positive energy behind this. You have nothing to lose but $1 if your intent is positive; if there is any deception or negative intent behind it then that's ultimately down to them to deal with as it boomerangs back and smacks them in the face.

[jaybee]

Posted by modwiz (here)

Posted by chiquetet (here)
When Charles came along and said "I want to solve things with you" I said "I'll work with him until it turns out that he is not genuine". - Said and done.

Now Bill gets the same chance. If you say you want to help humanity, you got a plan that exceeds my current one and you would appreciate my help, I'm with you - till I find out you're a fraud. --- I can spare a buck

Me too Chiquetet, I can spare a buck. There is no way a dollar towards a positive idea can make a fool of me. Being a cynic in the face of hope is sad, IMO. This may be legitimate and I want my 'vote' counted.

POST UPDATE:

Done!

bolded.....actually it can...if Brockbrader turns out to be an out and out con man.

Posted by modwiz (here)
To any who have some trepidation about a dollar. A dollar? I know, it's the principle, right? Please, this is about energy expenditure, a major concern of the warrior/sorcerers of the Yaqui way. It is so much easier to just give the dollar than to wonder who, why and if. Of course, if after you press the send button for that dollar you will agonize over whether you did the right thing then sending that dollar would be ill advised. It is all about energy sent and yours being conserved. I say this to try and help with some clarity here. I have no judgement about right or wrong.

To thine own self be true.

yes...that's right...it's the principle.

and this particular twist in the Brockbrader saga IS about money. Pure and simple.

IMO....

[modwiz]

An interesting kind of energetic mitosis is occurring, but instead of two identical offspring, yin and yang versions take form. All part of the learning dance, and the dance isn't over yet.

I am glad that in my version of reality, a dollar cannot buy, or make, a fool. The future is about creating our own realities. The past was too, but the time lag made it difficult to perceive, especially where patience is not a virtue.

[spiritwind]

I spent many years as a single mom raising my two sons. One day a homeless girl somehow grabbed my attention and I somehow found myself giving her my last $20. I remember thinking later, what if she just goes and spends that on alcohol and cigarettes? I myself was working at the time and knew I would have more income although I was living well below the poverty level. I realized I gave her the money because I was moved to do so in the moment because it simply felt like the right thing to do. It was a way for me to express gratitude to the universe for all that I did have and all that was right in my world. It was given in the hope that it would in some way make her world a better place, even if only for a short time. I decided then I would never look back and that it was my intent that really mattered rather than what she ended up spending the money on. I would say that is how I feel in this case. I'm going to get an address so I can send a dollar to so I don't have to use pay-pal or my debit card because that does make me somewhat uncomfortable, but otherwise, my vote is yes.

[jaybee]

Posted by Lazlo (here)

Posted by TargeT (here)
even if he is not what he says he is, it is not his fault that he has not found his true self, we should pitty him not hate him.

I don't hate him, I never said that. But a lot of $1 donations can add up to substantial money. Ask the march of dimes, or the salvation army, or the MD association, or...

exactly...

Will Brockbrader become rich if he can pull this off?

Maybe he will need the money to escape all the angry Seals who are on his case......

Jeeeezus...you couldn't make all this stuff up. But it IS very entertaining and I look forward to the next episode....

.

[Mad Hatter]

Mad Hatter dons his cynics cap...

Just a dollar from everyone who wants to see change in the world.... Lets say 500,000 watched the interview and 50% vote as requested.

Thats what, $250,000 for a couple of hours work. Not bad if you can get it. Just in case that doesn't take the cake the whole 'show me the money' angle is to apparently get assurances for those who will write some real zeros. Can't help think they must have some deeeeeep pockets.

Thing is those with said deep pockets don't usually get them without having a certain outlook or attitude regarding money, as in whats in it for me. This would indicate that the investors see an even more interesting deal or exchange of energy in the offing.

Based on that alone, the unannounced 'plan', whatever it may turn out to be, must hold a return of energy $uitably impre$$ive enough to warrant $uch a large initial outlay. Could a chance for seat on top of some new paradigm be ju$tification??

Part of me has to smile at the implication of how much of each dollar goes toward bank fees and charges thus aiding and abetting the current bankster paradigm.

PS Billy boy is just lucky it wasn't my daughter as he'd be a eunuch right now... Call me old fashioned but IMHO a 25 year old that is too dumb to keep his prick in his pants around someone that much younger displays a distinct lack of discernment, maturity, empathy, decency and or simple common sense.

On the other hand if that sort of behaviour really is OK by you then I'll take it you would not have a problem with a 12 year sticking his fingers in a 3 year old simply because its physically possible!!

Whatever drives your bus but don't ever try and tell me your some sort of spiritual being...

[christian]

Posted by jaybee (here)

Posted by modwiz (here)
There is no way a dollar towards a positive idea can make a fool of me. Being a cynic in the face of hope is sad, IMO. This may be legitimate and I want my 'vote' counted.

actually it can...if Brockbrader turns out to be an out and out con man.

and this particular twist in the Brockbrader saga IS about money. Pure and simple.

It's one thing to follow someone like a lemming over a cliff and another to send $1 somewhere. For most people in the western world $1 is merely symbolic, it's a gesture. I don't expect Bill Wood to become significantly rich with the money that comes in. What is to be expected there? A couple of thousand at best. And even it is was more, no amount of dollars will be worth much in the times to come. And it's a one time thing, I will surely not send anything to his paypal account again, he says it's only a vote and the big players would add the zeros if this plays out nicely.

[Jenci]

Posted by modwiz (here)

Posted by Jenci (here)

Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
Great find Jenci .............This shows us he is a actovist , but again leads to many more questions....

Still thinking about it,,,,,

Yes Steve it does lead to many more questions. One that I have - did Kerry check out what the Tree of Liberty Movement is before linking a paypal donate button to it on her website? We are told she has seen evidence that this man is who he says he is - what is that evidence and where is it?

I don't take credit for finding the video. It was posted on other forums. I was happy to put it up in this thread. It's important that people know who and what they are donating money to.

Jeanette

Hello Jeanette,
An observation. It may seem to some eyes that you and I may be working the crowd in differing fashions. OK. I would have to say what motivates me is my view of the future that I see unfolding and how it fits very well with statements/visions put forth by the two Bills, Wood and Ryan. One where, despite what the news of both MSM and alternative focus on, Armeggedon and devastation are avoided and white hats pop out of places in the nick of time while we all get our act together in an almost miraculous fashion.

I am finding great confirmation of a brighter future right here in this thread. The last few pages of posts are staggered with some against BW and his idea, some for it and some undecided. The various sides have been exchanging ideas and responding across the 'aisle'. The personal attacks and vitriol have basically disappeared. You and I post side by side, with both feeling that all is just as it should be. It is this kind of security and ability to not have to agree but still have harmony that indicates the future we are projecting for us all to meet in.

I am pleased and encouraged. I honor our need and ability to be true to ourselves in a civil fashion that will make our would be controllers realize that checkmate is just a few formal moves away. We're keeping it classy.

That's a great post, Modwiz, thank you.

We don't agree on BW - so what? lol.

But we do agree about how different opinions can be handled in a more classy manner. No-one (well most of us) likes to see the attacks and vitriol here. It makes uncomfortable reading and has put people off posting, who may have something valuable to share here.

What we do know for sure is that this story is going to continue as there is another interview at the weekend and lots of different opinions will come out of that. Let's hope we can all work together in this thread, even if we don't agree.

I'm too positive about the future, although I am guessing there is going to be a bit more pain before we get there. Thank you
Jeanette

[Jenci]

Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
Well put modwiz thats one of the reasons I've been monitoring this thread like a 'mother hen'
as I feel for good or bad this is one of those pivotal momments on the forum that needs
level thinking and now we have calmed down it would be nice to to see this thru the next
few phases logically.....

Well said, Steve.


Jeanette

[Cidersomerset]

I do think this dollar is a distraction.........

For Kerry should take it for granted if BW is genuine and his message/intel is true , I would hope all of us would back it
even if we do not like/trust the messenger.....

That should be aprox 5000 votes or so from here...

[Jenci]

Posted by chiquetet (here)
And it's a one time thing, I will surely not send anything to his paypal account again, he says it's only a vote and the big players would add the zeros if this plays out nicely.

If it was just a vote don't you think it could have been handled differently like through a poll or petition type of thing without paypal being involved?

Jeanette

[jaybee]

Posted by chiquetet (here)

Posted by jaybee (here)

Posted by modwiz (here)
There is no way a dollar towards a positive idea can make a fool of me. Being a cynic in the face of hope is sad, IMO. This may be legitimate and I want my 'vote' counted.

actually it can...if Brockbrader turns out to be an out and out con man.

and this particular twist in the Brockbrader saga IS about money. Pure and simple.

It's one thing to follow someone like a lemming over a cliff and another to send $1 somewhere. For most people in the western world $1 is merely symbolic, it's a gesture. I don't expect Bill Wood to become significantly rich with the money that comes in. What is to be expected there? A couple of thousand at best. And even it is was more, no amount of dollars will be worth much in the times to come. And it's a one time thing, I will surely not send anything to his paypal account again, he says it's only a vote and the big players would add the zeros if this plays out nicely.

since when did we or anyone else have to pay a dollar to 'vote' for world change?

there is something very manipulative and tacky about Brockbrader's appeal for money. To go into HIS Paypal account.



edit to say....good work in this thread Jenci and thanks for sharing Brockbrader/Tree of Liberty Movement video on the previous page.

[christian]

Posted by Jenci (here)
If it was just a vote don't you think it could have been handled differently like through a poll or petition type of thing without paypal being involved?

All people say "I want to help create a better world" but the numbers shrink, when it comes to really acting on it. A poll or a count is easily signed, but with $1 there is a threshold, not really financially, but more energetically.- Now one could argue $0.01 would be sufficient as well. But that discussion will be held without me.

[Nerge]

Posted by chiquetet (here)

Posted by Jenci (here)
If it was just a vote don't you think it could have been handled differently like through a poll or petition type of thing without paypal being involved?

All people say "I want to help create a better world" but the numbers shrink, when it comes to really putting something on the table. A poll or a count is easily signed, but with $1 there is a threshold, not really financially, but more energetically.- Now one could argue $0.01 would be sufficient as well. But that discussion will be held without me.

Similar to my own thoughts on this, it's the intent behind this action which is the important part. It takes more thought and energy than to simply click an option in a free poll; the nominal amount allows most to participate if they wish.

I had doubts when I first saw the message regarding donations, the same many (including myself) may have had in the past when considering donating to a begger on the street (as one example). But what does it really boil down to? In many ways, and for me at least it's fear, in one way or another.

And fear of what? Being made to look gullable or that my poor precious pride may take a dent for being tricked out of a $1? Perhaps that someone has somehow 'got one over me'? Who knows.

The point for me is the message behind this, of working towards something better for us all. Yes your pride may take a few knocks here and there, but if your intent was pure and for seeing a better world for all then what have you really lost?

I'm not hear to persuade people one way or the other, that's their own free will but I'd always like to think we can always keep things respectable and civil while working towards something better, no matter how we decide to get there. Heck, I'd hope most of us are here to ultimately see things change for the better for all, right?

[childs hood end]

Just a reminder of what these sickos are willing to do when **** dont run der way,,,,,,,,,,,,
rape charges against former IMF Chief Dominique Strauss Kahn,,,,,,, an hes one of them,,,,,
maybe they seen this coming and set B W up (looking glass),,,,,,, maybe not,,,, only time will tell,,,

Patience is a must,,

Peace.

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

Posted by Jenci (here)

Posted by Intranuclear (here)
So I watched the video and re-watched the area around 3.20 and did not see/hear any reference to a claim that Muslims claimed 911. He is saying that both sides (Christians and Muslims) claim that killing is wrong but both justify killing. No mention of 911.
Are you sure you are not mixing videos?

He is saying that in the Middle East, the 911 attackers are seen as patriots. He goes on to say that "both sides" have taken thousands of innocent lives.
To me this is enough to say that he is confirming the official 911 story of Muslim hijackers.

And if it is not enough to confirm it, then I could say, why is is not saying in this video that 911 was an inside job and that Tomahawk missiles were used and not planes and he knew this because of his expertise with the Tomahawks?

Jeanette

Very important post jenci. A couple of speculations (oh god i said i wouldn't do that!). Maybe he was trying to operate within the mainstream paradigm to try to wake people up. Also according to his testimony he has gone through some "mind destruction" as he calls it, so maybe he was just confused at this time in his life. All together though i have say you guys have presented a pretty convincing case for why we shouldn't trust him enough to donate money to him just yet. I am starting to regret my donation.

[lisalu]

ok, I am coming out from cover here. I am new here to this forum but not new to the ideas presented here. 38 pages later, wow, it has been thought provoking and entertaining. my thoughts on the $1 donation. call me crazy or paranoid, it doesn't matter, but I would be much more inclined to send an actually dollar via snail mail, if an address was given than to donate via paypal where there is an actual trail connecting you to whatever....the whatever being key. get my drift?