100 people invited to go to mothership - Steve Beckow

[Lifebringer]

Back on Valentines day, what better show of love.

[Jenci]

Posted by pie'n'eal (here)
Just because someone puts a different aspect
to a situation does not mean it is negative.

If one lives in constant hope,
because of a constant fear,
that is a constant negative life.

If a thing is true at every aspect,
it has to be true at any part of the circle.

Do not forget the object of this forum,
to find the truth, not arguing, and being
quick to take offence.

Being positive does not mean, pouring sweet
onto everything and hoping that is right!

It is snowing here, and the birds are on the
path eating. Usually they are squabbling,
but today they see the 'need' just to eat...

Attachment 13480
...No squabbling today!

I love that picture Tony!

Jeanette

[Zillah]

Here is James Gilliland's response to this situation -- I know many of you here including myself respect him, and his perspective is greatly appreciated.

(I apologize if this was shared, I cant bring it to myself to scroll through 28 pages) <3

We are overwhelmed with emails asking that I speak on this matter. I have already spoken yet not at length concerning the Mother Ship Neptune giving everyone a joy ride. We said there is no knowledge of any planned mass pickup or joy rides from the beings we are in contact with. We also said this does not fit into their ways or universal law of which they must work within. I find it odd that a master race would choose the name of a planet in our own solar system for their mother ship. Picking people up in black limousines that transform into space ships sounds like the old Masters of the Far East books or the Transformers. If they wanted to be discrete maybe a Volks Wagon bus or Ford Taurus might be a better cloak.

That being said there is a deeper level of understanding that needs to come into play. Training with the T.I C. Teachings of the Inner Christ and the Tibetan Foundation as well as years of study with Yogis and Lamas etc. has given the wisdom of discernment. Just because you are dead, an ET or an unseen entity does not mean you are enlightened. There are faker spirits, tricksters that love to interfere. Not having the inner sensitivity or training in healing unseen negative influences one can easily be misled. They often use flattery, you are the chosen one, special, etc. In the unified field we are all one, there is no separation and in the highest of levels there are no levels. It is called Omniscient or Omnipresence, one with everything aware of everything within your fields and some fields hold several dimensions. You can have a wealth of accurate, positive information then be misled and we all know what the masses do with one error. There are safeguards to pure channeling and they are in the books, Reunion with Source and Becoming Gods. www.eceti.org We highly recommend people reading these books before they get into channeling or delivering messages from unseen entities.

Another aspect to false information is psyopps. They will give disinformation or inside information to set up people. It will have 9 truths and 1 lie to steer information in the direction they want. They can also remote influence with trained psychics and technology. Implant messages, thoughts and feelings you would think were your own or some benevolent source. Discernment is the key. Many fall for this because they want to be the one with the breaking news, the new information often which; has to be wild and crazy never before told to humanity. The ego is very tricky and many a good soul have been mislead through the ego. All information has to come through the mind here on this dimension where it is often altered to fit within the reference points of the individual. Channeled messages will have a percentage of accuracy and it is up to us to discern whether or not the message has been influenced by a desired outcome.

There are safeguards for pure channeling the first and foremost is learning how to heal unseen negative influences then maintain a protected space holding out any intrusions. The tools are taught in the Self Mastery Classes. Always run any information through your own discernment and if it does not feel right or entirely accurate just put it on the shelf. It will return sometimes several times if it is necessary for your evolution. We all need to release the past, heal any wounds, traumas or wrong conclusions from past experiences. This includes past lives as well to be a clear channel. The more we clear the higher the percentage of accuracy. Love, Joy, Bliss, Service to Humanity and the Earth, oneness are the keys for discernment. Sometimes tough love is in order yet it is not done in competition or a need to put down another it is to heal or help them evolve. Energetically you can feel the difference. It is important to realize everyone is doing the best they can with the reference points and tools available to them. No one is infallible. Look at the intent and maintain discernment. If a mistake is made learn from it. There is a saying, I never made a mistake, I manifested a lot of things and gained a lot of wisdom.” How do you know what works without experiencing what doesn’t not knowing in advance the two? We are getting a crash course in what works and what doesn’t. The time between the thought, action and manifestation is growing shorter. Gain the wisdom from your mistakes, forgive yourself and others, continue your evolution. This is the quickest path to enlightenment. You can blame and project yet very shortly you will see three fingers pointing back at yourself for the one you are pointing at others.

Be well,
James Gilliland
www.eceti.org
www.bbsradio.com
www.worldpuja.net

[aranuk]

Posted by RMorgan (here)
Hey guys,

Well, those who know my posts and replies here on PA, know as well that I´m a very respectful man.

So, please, take this with all due respect. I don´t mean to offend anyone, but I have to say this.

This whole situation only shows us how gullible and naive most people here at PA are. This is one of the reasons that make every new-age charlatan out there so successful.

Some people need to believe something and these people know that.

The first reaction I´ve got about this posts was: Are you serious????Ets picking you up at home for a trip, in a black limousine?????

(This is still my reaction.)

This is unbelievable!!

And, for those who will still believe Backow´s excuses about it, well, all I can say is that I´m really sorry for you. I hope you to wake up some day.

Some people will also say that it was a set up to discredit Beckow. Well, it could be, but the probabilities that this is all just fruits of his ill imagination, or that he created this situation to achieve certain still unknown results are much bigger. They are not being played; They are playing with you.

These men are always so predictable...I´m not any kind of prophet, but if you check out, there are countless threads here on PA (including this one) were I could predict the results, using only pure discernment and logic. Maybe you should try using such tools sometimes as well...

It´s so easy to blame other people for their mistakes... They could say they were victims of a CIA psy-ops to discredit them (they probably will come up with a very fantastic excuse)...Or they could just take the responsability for it, like honest men do.

Some people will say that the ETs were forced to change their plans for some reason. Well, this is not like a date you have to cancel because you´ve remembered of a dentist appointment, guys...If you can´t trust an ET race to be punctual on such an important date, you shouldn´t trust them enough to get inside their ship as well.

Please people, you have to stop dreaming (dreaming is good, but when you dream too deep, it becomes delusion). You have to wake up!

Cheers,

Raf.

PS: This thread used to be pretty busy during the last few days. Now, it´s just moving gradually towards the oblivion. For those who choose to just forget this situation, well, just get ready for the next scam. I guarantee that there´s another brand new hoax just around the corner, waiting for you.

Whilst you talk a lot of sense most of the time Raf, may I say you do not talk sense all the time. You accuse over two thousand members of Avalon to be gullible. Is this a nice thing to say to your family to which you belong? I think not. I think you are being rude to most people here. I am a member here and I will say that I represent the majority of members and their opinions on spiritual matters and matters of alien life in the universe. If I were to, and I have, recommend people to try and join here I would not have warned them that the majority of people here are gullible. I certainly would not have done that as it would have had a negative effect on them to join here.

Some people like you here claim to be never fooled by anyone. You seem to infer that you are incapable of being fooled by anyone. May I suggest that you are lying or at least in the few years on this planet you have never trusted anyones word on anything? I doubt that very much and if anyone dares to believe you I think they must be gullible.

There are insurance people convincing millions of people every day that they should take out policies for this and that as it makes good sense etc. People like you of course will always read the small print and say not on my life will I do such a thing. Plumbers will visit you and tell you that your heating boiler has failed because of some part has failed of which he will have to order. When you and your family are sitting at home freezing you being not a gullible person of course will not believe the plumber will you? I think not. I think you will trust him because you want your family to be warmed and have hot water.

Please do not call the majority of the good people here gullible again.

Stan

[aranuk]

I was defending the integrity of a majority of 4,911 people on this forum. That means that at least 2,456 people here. Not just the four members who were on the list. What say you? The ones that were accused of being gullible and naive.

Stan

[cellardoor]

Posted by aranuk (here)
I was defending the integrity of a majority of 4,911 people on this forum. That means that at least 2,456 people here. Not just the four members who were on the list. What say you? The ones that were accused of being gullible and naieve.

Stan

I think on the whole people were really polite and supportive of us 4, it was a credit to open debate. But I couldn't and wouldn't speak for anyone else but my self. I really appreciated the experience.

[aranuk]

Raf said you are gullible and naive. He also said that the majority of people here are as well. Well Michael are you gullible and naive? Do you think that most of us are?

Stan

[cellardoor]

I might not know it all, but not one person here knows the whole truth. Raf is another part of me and how could I not Love that? We are creators and I love the fact that we are one. I see it on Avalon it is a group mind of great potential. Every single one of us. I hope I can reach out to Raf and say that I am not as stupid as people think but that would be feeding my ego and would provoke a defensive stance. I do really wish we could just get along. I need to say aranuk thank you so much for standing in your truth, I admire that greatly in people.

Much love to you my friend

[NewFounderHome]

Well I must say then this thread did teach me several thing.

1. I'm not sure now then I would share with the others on this forum if I would have received a ticket for the trip.
2. It was sure interesting to find out the folks that would have what it takes to go into the unknown. ( congrad's to the 4)
3. It is in situation like this then we find the folks then we would have more of affinity or idea's in comun.
4. I did learn then we are not all at the same stage in our quest.
5. But at the end of the day we all want a better live and situation for us all.

[rfrankh53]

Hello friends,
I was on the list of people invited to go on this trip...for me it has been a long time intention and the deepest desire of my life to meet the galactics and reunite with family from Sirius. I have been holding this dream and desire for some time now... the date thing came up, I signed on and gave no energy to "if". It was simply, "I am at the service of disclosure in whatever way I can help...I am available. My ego stayed out of it...It was just my desire to meet them and exchange cultures. The day passed without any emotional "disappointment" I have waited my entire life for this, I already know it will happen, I just don't know when. I am aware my task is to raise my consciousness and manifest this and focus as if it has already happened. I visit the galactics in dreams and have a clear picture already. For me it is simple, when it is time it will be time. Until then I will continue in the service of the ONE...I have learned a few useful things in this process. One I need contact with my higher self. Two, I need to reach out to the Source and stop following channels, as we are ONE... I need to make contact clearer contact telepathically myself. This is happening and I seem to get this warm smile and "your on the right track." So I have to hold this vibration of love and light and continue to ask for contact. I am fine. I hold no one responsible and criticize NO ONE for the efforts to bring disclosure to the table no matter what the outcome. Channels are human too.

[TelosianEmbrace]

Just an observation on what happened to me on the day. I was on the long, long, extended last minute if there's room for one more though its never going to happen because Grener said only 100 list. I lay down and tuned in. I gave permission for the Galactics to arrive. I actually felt some sort of beam scanning my body. It went up and down from my feet to my head. It felt like you feel when you are underwater with whalesong, though more prosaic. The energy moved through me, energetically, as though my physical body meant nothing.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Posted by jackovesk (here)
I guess we won't be hearing from Viking for the next 14 days..?

Ha Ha ... funny Jacko ... If you checked my last few posts you would have known that I am still here on this planet...

Well all I can say if (when) this comes around again I'll adopt the same mindset perhaps with a little more preparation in several fronts...

I must say the feeling was at times overwhelmimg to realize that I was going to meet another being from another planet. I can tell you now that at times I really thought this was going to manifest and the emotional charge I got from this will be with me within my banks...This whole episiode has confirmed with me that when this does happen and manifest ...HUMANITY WILL RISE TO THE SCALES OF UNIMAGINABLE LEVELS OF FREEDOM AND CONCSIOUSNESS...

I will press the button every time and my faith will remain intact...

I applaud Ria, Cellador and ETM for taking this stance against the overwhelming backlash which was innevitable if nothing happened... I truly hope you all saw what I saw whilst entering a little into the unknown of what might be ...

The feeling was great ... dissapointed ... a little, but not enough to say I wish I never took part...

Would I do it again...bloody well right I would (will). next time!

Hey I know you meant it tongue in cheek !! ... if it does ever happen you'll know about it my friend...

viking

~~~~~~~~

Posted by rfrankh53 (here)
Hello friends,
I was on the list of people invited to go on this trip...for me it has been a long time intention and the deepest desire of my life to meet the galactics and reunite with family from Sirius. I have been holding this dream and desire for some time now... the date thing came up, I signed on and gave no energy to "if". It was simply, "I am at the service of disclosure in whatever way I can help...I am available. My ego stayed out of it...It was just my desire to meet them and exchange cultures. The day passed without any emotional "disappointment" I have waited my entire life for this, I already know it will happen, I just don't know when. I am aware my task is to raise my consciousness and manifest this and focus as if it has already happened. I visit the galactics in dreams and have a clear picture already. For me it is simple, when it is time it will be time. Until then I will continue in the service of the ONE...I have learned a few useful things in this process. One I need contact with my higher self. Two, I need to reach out to the Source and stop following channels, as we are ONE... I need to make contact clearer contact telepathically myself. This is happening and I seem to get this warm smile and "your on the right track." So I have to hold this vibration of love and light and continue to ask for contact. I am fine. I hold no one responsible and criticize NO ONE for the efforts to bring disclosure to the table no matter what the outcome. Channels are human too.

Thanks for coming forward Frank...makes me wonder how many here applied !

~~~~~~~~

Interesting response here at ATS

irst Ever Post From The MotherShip Neptune!!! -

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...age1773987/pg1

02/04/2012

It was a long tour. It's a big ship.
A literal flying city. Sorry I didn't report back sooner. I was
exhausted. The amount of wondrous things I saw and all the information
I learned can really tire one out. Anyway only a small number of folks
were actually picked up. 25 that I counted personally. It was told to
use that Mr Beckow and a lot of others could not be picked up at this
time due to the fact that Mr Beckow made all of this too public. It was
suppose to be a behind the scenes first step. But with all the
attention on Mr Beckow it was almost impossible for them to retrieve
him and most of the others as there were safety concerns. We were told
that Mr Beckow and others were put under surveillance after all this
becoming so public against the wishes of those on the Neptune. But they
said they do appreciate all the work he has done and he will be
contacted personally at the first possible time when it is safe.

Today I am allowed to take photos and
post them back to earthnet. I have a few mandatory training exercises I
need to go do but I will check back in later. This is all so surreal.
Can't believe this is actually happening. Mr Beckow made this too
public and had some unsavory intelligence types watching his every
move. There was no way they could have picked him up without incident
is what we were told. I have taken over 200 photos. However the
terminals on the ship don't have a USB port so I will ask the adviser
assigned to me my best option for uploading some of these photos the
next time I see her. You should see the clothes these people wear.
quite cool

And I can assure you this trip was
most definitely not canceled. It was revised and made smaller. You guys
gotta remember there are some very powerful people that don't want this
open contact between our space family and us to take place. Especially
by passing the 'official government channels'. Might we actually learn
the truth for ourselves without 'gov't officials' filtering it first!
this is inevitable. And from what I"ve learned what you gotta realize
is that the Earth is equivalent to a backwoods small town in the big
galactic picture. There are many billions more humans living throughout
the galaxy than on Earth.

These other humans see us as quite
naive babies actually. Like a tribe in the Amazon who has not made
contact with the rest of the world. On top of that they see most of us
as being brainwashed with lies and abused. Made to eat unhealthy crap.
Poverty. We are in quite a sad state. Hopefully this will all change
soon. As for Mr. Beckow, hopefully he learned an important lesson
about shouting things from the rooftop when they should not be.
Remember he is under surveillance. At this time it is better for him to
believe this was a failure and he is leaving public life. This is for
his own safety. When the time is right he will be told that in fact,
the trip was a success and finally be able to see the fruits of his
labors.

Anyway I have already become addicted
to the gravity free game court. so much fun floating around. the rest
of the ship has artificial gravity, but they have told us it is only at
83% of what it is on earth so it feels quite nice actually and a bit
different. You want to hear something funny. When I first tried to
post yesterday I got a message "Banned from GLP" from the ship lol. God
knows what ISP range they are using. Anyway it took a few attempts
before I was finally able to post. This isn't my normal GLP ID. So
whatever those other threads are seems like an attempt by the dark
cabal to derail this at every chance

They don't use deodorant! I forgot my
deodorant so I tried to go get some in the supply area. They said they
don't use deodorant. The lady at the counter rolled her eyes and gave
me a package that contained two small strips. really small, about a 1/4
of an inch long by 1/8 inch thick. She looked at me like I am some sort
of caveman and told me to just stick each strip inside my shirt in the
pit area and i would be fine. I asked her how it worked and she said it
was akin to what we would consider some sort of smart nanotech. where
this stuff could find the stink particles and eradicate them lol. she
didn't seem like she is the scientific type so who knows. anyway
hopefully they work!

Speaking of dinner there are
literally THOUSANDS of options to chose from. Including earth cuisine.
I tried some exotic stuff. I tried some form of seafood from some
planet they call Octuria. I tried to act polite but had to spit it out.
But alot of the stuff is very similar to what we eat. And a lot of it
isn't. We have been told that tomorrow we will be taking a tour of
this local part of the galaxy. Starting with a stop at each planet in
this solar system. So far we have just remained in orbit around the
earth. Tomorrow should make for some really interesting photo
opportunities. And I have been assured I will be able to upload the
photos I have taken. But a more interesting option is that I will be
able to use one of their 'image capturing devices' to take pictures
which somehow will make uploading them instantaneous. Exciting times
friends

02/05/2012

Last night we left the solar system
to go on a most amazing tour of this corner of the galaxy. The one
thing that I kept thinking to myself was that quote Jesus said, "In the
house of my father there are many mansions". Indeed there are. Today I
saw wonders that yesterday I could not have possibly imagined. Simply
unreal. But the thing is... it IS real. I feel much much happier. I
have a totally different perspective to what this all is. And it is
just amazing.

My fellow humans from Earth. We have
been cheated and abused in the worst possible way. We have been
enslaved through corrupt governments and are given just enough to
survive. We are brainwashed into believing this is a world of scarcity.
But I can tell you with no doubt... this is a universe of abundance. We
have been robbed of living and enjoying life and all the wonderment
that should go along with that. They have told me that indeed the
elite of the Earth have had propulsion and energy systems that would
have turned the Earth into a paradise 50 years ago. But that they have
withheld this from the masses of Earth in the name of greed and
control. Out of their fear of losing control and losing their self
appointed place of authority. NO LONGER. This will all end this year.

John Lear and Sleeper on Planet Neptune

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread289947/pg1

~~~~~~~~

viking

[starwalk]

Thank you so much for all of this information. You are on the JOURNEY now I assume and would be exited to see the galaxies form an whole new pespective. I am curious to read about your expeirences and looking foreward to this on Valentines day. Isn't that romanitic?
Eternal Love journey back to Gaya on Valentines day who... with love to Avalon

[Anchor]

LOL - That's the way - have some fun

[buckminster fuller]

Posted by aranuk (here)

Posted by RMorgan (here)
Hey guys,

Well, those who know my posts and replies here on PA, know as well that I´m a very respectful man.

So, please, take this with all due respect. I don´t mean to offend anyone, but I have to say this.

This whole situation only shows us how gullible and naive most people here at PA are. This is one of the reasons that make every new-age charlatan out there so successful.

Some people need to believe something and these people know that.

The first reaction I´ve got about this posts was: Are you serious????Ets picking you up at home for a trip, in a black limousine?????

(This is still my reaction.)

This is unbelievable!!

And, for those who will still believe Backow´s excuses about it, well, all I can say is that I´m really sorry for you. I hope you to wake up some day.

Some people will also say that it was a set up to discredit Beckow. Well, it could be, but the probabilities that this is all just fruits of his ill imagination, or that he created this situation to achieve certain still unknown results are much bigger. They are not being played; They are playing with you.

These men are always so predictable...I´m not any kind of prophet, but if you check out, there are countless threads here on PA (including this one) were I could predict the results, using only pure discernment and logic. Maybe you should try using such tools sometimes as well...

It´s so easy to blame other people for their mistakes... They could say they were victims of a CIA psy-ops to discredit them (they probably will come up with a very fantastic excuse)...Or they could just take the responsability for it, like honest men do.

Some people will say that the ETs were forced to change their plans for some reason. Well, this is not like a date you have to cancel because you´ve remembered of a dentist appointment, guys...If you can´t trust an ET race to be punctual on such an important date, you shouldn´t trust them enough to get inside their ship as well.

Please people, you have to stop dreaming (dreaming is good, but when you dream too deep, it becomes delusion). You have to wake up!

Cheers,

Raf.

PS: This thread used to be pretty busy during the last few days. Now, it´s just moving gradually towards the oblivion. For those who choose to just forget this situation, well, just get ready for the next scam. I guarantee that there´s another brand new hoax just around the corner, waiting for you.

Whilst you talk a lot of sense most of the time Raf, may I say you do not talk sense all the time. You accuse over two thousand members of Avalon to be gullible. Is this a nice thing to say to your family to which you belong? I think not. I think you are being rude to most people here. I am a member here and I will say that I represent the majority of members and their opinions on spiritual matters and matters of alien life in the universe. If I were to, and I have, recommend people to try and join here I would not have warned them that the majority of people here are gullible. I certainly would not have done that as it would have had a negative effect on them to join here.

Some people like you here claim to be never fooled by anyone. You seem to infer that you are incapable of being fooled by anyone. May I suggest that you are lying or at least in the few years on this planet you have never trusted anyones word on anything? I doubt that very much and if anyone dares to believe you I think they must be gullible.

There are insurance people convincing millions of people every day that they should take out policies for this and that as it makes good sense etc. People like you of course will always read the small print and say not on my life will I do such a thing. Plumbers will visit you and tell you that your heating boiler has failed because of some part has failed of which he will have to order. When you and your family are sitting at home freezing you being not a gullible person of course will not believe the plumber will you? I think not. I think you will trust him because you want your family to be warmed and have hot water.

Please do not call the majority of the good people here gullible again.

Stan

Well, would "easy believers" be closer to the truth...?

Everything Raf says here I agree with, I really believe he only has at heart to see less people being fooled AND less people fooling themselves.

I really wish for more discernment and applied logic on the forum. The war raging outside is a war on information, and most of what is out there shouldn't be consumed without prior analysis, without the questioning that should NATURALLY occur in people.

All the new-age BS for instance... I have news for you, channelers are 99% english speaking peeps, and their "message" NEVER gets translated to other languages. Don't you think that if those were somehow genuine, they would make sure that the said "message" would get to all beings on this earth, or is it so that they have a thing for american imperialism..?

Let go fear, and make the effort to think things over, instead of consuming them is all I wish for us all.

Peace

[kersley]

I been depress ever since i heard the mother ship didn't show up. Is it safe to come out and have hope now?

[Daft Ada]

My fellow humans from Earth. We have
been cheated and abused in the worst possible way. We have been
enslaved through corrupt governments and are given just enough to
survive. We are brainwashed into believing this is a world of scarcity.
But I can tell you with no doubt... this is a universe of abundance. We
have been robbed of living and enjoying life and all the wonderment
that should go along with that. They have told me that indeed the
elite of the Earth have had propulsion and energy systems that would
have turned the Earth into a paradise 50 years ago. But that they have
withheld this from the masses of Earth in the name of greed and
control. Out of their fear of losing control and losing their self
appointed place of authority. NO LONGER. This will all end this year.

John Lear and Sleeper on Planet Neptune

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread289947/pg1

~~~~~~~~

viking

Interesting to note that the ending implies that this is John lear and sleepers post but when you follow the link it says "TO" john lear and sleeper, which is a completely different sittuation also interesting to note all the post dates are 2007

[Eric J (Viking)]

Posted by Daft Ada (here)

My fellow humans from Earth. We have
been cheated and abused in the worst possible way. We have been
enslaved through corrupt governments and are given just enough to
survive. We are brainwashed into believing this is a world of scarcity.
But I can tell you with no doubt... this is a universe of abundance. We
have been robbed of living and enjoying life and all the wonderment
that should go along with that. They have told me that indeed the
elite of the Earth have had propulsion and energy systems that would
have turned the Earth into a paradise 50 years ago. But that they have
withheld this from the masses of Earth in the name of greed and
control. Out of their fear of losing control and losing their self
appointed place of authority. NO LONGER. This will all end this year.

John Lear and Sleeper on Planet Neptune

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread289947/pg1

~~~~~~~~

viking

Interesting to note that the ending implies that this is John lear and sleepers post but when you follow the link it says "TO" john lear and sleeper, which is a completely different sittuation also interesting to note all the post dates are 2007

Hi Dafty .... yes that part of the message is an overpaste ... bottom 2 lines should not be there ...

This is the original link ... >>>>> http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...age1773987/pg1

Anyway please discern...could be some nutter having fun on ATS...makes you think though hey... I wonder what they are like ... inside the ships?!

viking

[niki]

Posted by buckminster fuller (here)

All the new-age BS for instance... I have news for you, channelers are 99% english speaking peeps, and their "message" NEVER gets translated to other languages. Don't you think that if those were somehow genuine, they would make sure that the said "message" would get to all beings on this earth, or is it so that they have a thing for american imperialism..?

Hi,
I am new to this wonderful forum, and I'm from Asia myself, to be precise, I'm from Indonesia.
Although honestly I've followed Steve Beckow's page for just a bit while, and as well as this forum,
but I've researched quite some bits about the whole "Truth", Ascension, Disclosure, 2012, Lightworkers, Pleaidians, UFO, ET things,
moreover, my heart and soul have *somehow* yearned so much to be included in this trip.
I even emailed mr. Steve Beckow several times (through several different mediums such as his blog, website, even to his mailing list & personal email account), with a header email subject: "a 30-yrs old open-minded Truth-seeker from Indonesia who see NO other purpose than this trip",
only to still get no reply, and that in the end, only to read that the trip was postponed (unless if I've missed some other important information).

I will say this very honestly though:
as much as my heart and soul have -again, somehow- felt so 'outcast' on this beloved planet, mostly due to the human's society and many of its terrible 'materialistic' and greedy rules & pursuits), and even often feel that "I don't belong here, my HOME must probably exist somewhere else. There's NO way I'm given all these super-vivid imaginations and creativity creations by the ONE, or God, etc (as I'm a musician/composer myself), only just for the purpose of mere 'torturing' me here.
I've always, always tried to believe that there must be a PURPOSE for all of these constant yearnings and my loneliness, all my super vivid imaginations, creativity (as if they're NOT coming out from me!).

BUT (and this is in line with @buckminster fuller 's reply and some others here),
I do also somehow know that as much as we all yearn this to be coming true to reality,
the 'harsh' truth is that: we might perhaps all could just possibly seeking mere escapism from this too-often 'irrational, superficial, mundane' reality here on this planet Earth, and especially its human's society (and their imposed rules, expectations, pursuits).
I will be utmost honest here: scientifically speaking, we also KNOW of how our human's minds (& Ego) are quite 'fantastic' and 'awesome' in creating all these super-imaginations, vivid 'creative' stories, etc etc (that's why there are sooo many great, unbelievably amazing novels, movies, anime, video games, ALL come from ironically a 'mere' human's imaginations!).

But the most important question is: HOW much of them are 'real', or 'true'? or even the "Truth"?
and moreover, HOW can we know, and most importantly: discern, between what's really the "real Truth", and/or just mere human's beautiful and 'creative' personal own's imaginations & fantasy?...

Like some more 'realistic' posters that I've seen have posted before:
sometimes, it's also very important to NOT forget using our "human's greatest tools" as well: mind and logic, for Discernment purpose.
there's a LOT of misinformation out there in this earthly world (& society)!
And to be perfectly honest, this is one of the main reasons I'm just basically tired of living on this so-called human's society, as many of them -especially nowadays- will use ALL/ANY kind of purposes just to *deceive or trick* people into believing all kind of lies, mis-information, etc etc, and all of these are -sadly- often just for mere human's (or EGO)'s 'shallow' purposes! eg: fame, status, popularity, or simply just for pleasure/enjoyment of self. these things DO happen, and I've seen all these in a CONSTANT, DAILY basis! that it's even way beyond sickening.

Now, I'm not saying -however- that mr. Steve Beckow's "Neptune Trip" info was 100% lies or that he himself was just 'another' wordly/earthly scam, fraud, trickster, liar, etc etc,
but even using one's own logic, I have to pretty much concur and agree with @buckminster fuller especially about the language thing. this is common-sense, and I feel he's correct in his logic-discernment. and I'm still not even mentioning the whole "black limousine", "space bikes", and other descriptions that I would even honestly termed as "too human/earthly" descriptions. I mean, with all due respect, if we believe in ETs as being of "higher realms", then why we couldn't even 'stretch' our imaginations to think that they could've used more "out of this world" methods of picking people up?...instead of the whole black limousine, space bikes, and even spaceships things?.. is it because we're just simply "too humans", and thus can only picture or imagine the most 'human' things/scenarios as possible?..

My apology if this may come out as a bit harsh and even perhaps 'rude' or impolite to some/many here,
but here I'm just speaking out from my deepest heart and soul, no sugar-coating, and no other intention here.
My sympathy as well goes to all of you who've been somewhat 'disappointed' too by the postponing of this Trip.

Meanwhile, I will keep seeking the Truth (as I've always been here on this far corner of the planet),
but this time -to avoid another 'heart-break' and major disappointment and even further feeling disillusioned- I think I will still use the "wonderful human's tools given by The Creator",
and that is namely: logic, common sense, and discernment.

Namaste~

[Daft Ada]

Hi Viking, this is the kind of BS this person posts http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...age1775724/pg1 Godlike productions is now the home of John Lear, having fallen out with Open minds, which has now closed anyway as they couldn't even get on with each other.
John has a very long thread on this site called I am the real John Lear, or something like that, and this Anonymous coward has posted in john Lears thread many times and mostly all confrontational, John is usually very patient with him but I wouldn't believe a word he says and regard his thread about being on the ship as a big wind up, as that's the nature he presents in all his other posts.
There is certainly no friendly relationship between John Lear and this person and none of the posts are anything to do with John Lear or Sleeper who is a close friend of John Lears