Free Energy?! No way in hell!

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

Thanks modwiz I agree on diet. For most of my life I was a carnivore... I started to eat more vegetarian meals couple of months ago. Whenever possible i choose to eat vegetables and fruits. It tastes great And it helps to change my POV a lot. Take notice. Food is our bodies' basic energy source. FE source is Divine. So if you feed on "violent"/dead food you become a little incompatible with Source/FE. But i think it is not that simple... It is two way loop... It implies that our bodies can run on Source/FE energy if our awareness is compatible with Source...

Wood, oil, coal, nuclear are violent sources of energy. They were supposed to be a "booster" stage of humanity rocket. We were supposed to discard that boosters long ago and engage FE stage of the rocket to go to the Stars. But we have chosen to cling to the boosters. If we won't choose to let it go it will run dry by itself. It is designed that way and this is Nature's failsafe. The human body experiment cycle will start from scratch again. We are at the end of the booster stage now.

What is our choice?

[Connecting with Sauce]

Posted by Wade Frazier (here)

Hi Connecting the Sauce.

That you still have a job means that it went OK for you, and GEET is not FE. I have seen careers end by talking up FE in the office. I don’t do it, except very carefully.

Best,

Wade

Yes I know GEET isn't FE but it is a stepping stone for people to even consider that the alternatives are out there... I spoke this evening over dinner with some engineers that I saw it running and spoke with Andreas this last weekend and that French farmers had converted their tractors...

I also mentioned that I prefer not to mention "conspiracy theories" as most people shut off or close up, as I could see a few were... It takes time I suppose... Today I posted on my facebook this about a 1936 vapour carb

https://youtube.com/watch?v=9E-H6JseCXY

I know it isn't FE... but it is another stepping stone "200 mpg" in 1936!... and why the hell didn't that happen argument which "the closed off" can't use when you bring up FE... well if they stop 200 mpg carbs don't you think they'll stop FE ... no way in hell etc...

Has anyone see "Thrive" a few copies are on YT floating around...

With regards my career TBH I'm past caring which is where I was in my 1-2-1 and the company has a very good diversity policy... I will just say in my reality free energy devices exist and I'm in the union...

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Modwiz:

I also make the point in my work that humanity’s carnivorous behaviors and murderous behaviors are directly related:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/veggie.htm#murderous

When I update my site, I will revise that section a little, based on my studies of the great apes. Gorillas kill infants, as do lions and other animals, and the selfish-gene theory (which I think is in vogue now, but it will not be that way much longer) has been advanced to explain it. Such behaviors are always scarcity-based in nature, as far as I can tell.

Best,

Wade

[Unified Serenity]

Posted by ulli (here)
Maybe a hundred years ago people who weren't yet connected to an electricity grid
also voiced objections and fears of getting those lights turned on.
My dad was a young farmer in the north of Germany when he got fed up
feeding one cow at a time... holding a storm lantern in one hand and the pitch fork with the hay in the other...
walking in the dark, and there it gets dark in the winter at around 4 pm....
And then one day, when the last cables had been installed, and the big moment came
SWITCH ON
and everything was illumined. All the cows...visible at once.
My jaw dropped as he told us kids the story.

Hey Ulli,

People are so afraid of change. You know that might be the place to focus our combined energy in a positive working to embrace change for our good. Not change in general because I for one don't like the latest hopey changy stuff going on, but I trust our Divine will to live in harmony in love, and that means changing ourselves, world, and focus in love not fear. Fear is what's killing us and driving the ptb to do the stuff they do.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

As promised, here is the first of a few negative visions posts that I will be making, to get those fears on the table, so they can be examined.

When it Ran Out

Henry cautiously poked up his periscope and surveyed the vicinity. A band of scavengers passed through the area a few days ago. They seemed to have moved on, but Henry learned the hard way to be cautious. Unlike the other starving people who had previously happened upon Henry’s mountain retreat, the recent scavengers were well armed. At this stage, the survivors were largely professionals. The weak and the unarmed had died from starvation or violence months and years ago, and rumors of epidemics among the survivors kept Henry tucked away in hiding. Henry had to kill the few who had discovered his hideout, but he hated doing it. But when it was him or them, his weaponry quickly decided the outcome. He then had to hastily bury them in the neighboring valley, as unobtrusively as possible, which was hard work.

A generation previously, Henry had been derided as a “survivalist,” those camouflaged fringe dwellers who had formed rather loosely-knit communities, united by their belief that Western civilization was doomed and their determination to survive the collapse. What might replace it was admittedly not thought through very clearly by the survivalists, but they were determined to live to see what that might be. Maybe one day, they would be able to live out their dreams of living off the land like their ancestors did, on homesteads, but that day was far off. The urban centers spewed out hungry hordes as the energy deliveries (oil, electricity, food) stopped arriving.

Most of the missing energy was oil. The talking heads on TV said that coal could supply America’s energy needs indefinitely, and maybe it could have, but too much changed too quickly. Several nuclear disasters around the world, including a couple in the USA that created large radioactive deserts, had halted nuclear energy in its tracks, and the Asian nations eventually kicked out the American military and grabbed the dwindling oil and gas for themselves, although nuclear warheads were used, which made oil country a no-man’s land, except for the rotating teams that worked to extract the oil and gas. It created a kind of perfect storm, and the energy deliveries ceased rather rapidly.

Fortunately, Henry was prepared. His band of survivalists quickly disintegrated, from internal tensions and the flood of starving people from the cities. The first several months of the collapse were just as awful as Henry and his pals feared. What they did not count on was how the fear affected them, as the stark reality became evident. Henry had a wife and child, but they were casualties of the first year. Henry’s mountain hideout was a last resort, and he did not expect to live there, much less alone.

Originally, Henry and his fellow survivalists bought land together and created a remote farming community. They planned to vigorously defend it. They tried to avoid the governmental agents who could simply confiscate their crops, but the USA’s government quickly collapsed into anarchy as the energy ran out, and the ex-military personnel proved to be very tough customers, and Henry lost his wife and child in those battles. Fortunately, the survivalists obtained weaponry that could compete with the military, because some of it was military issue. Henry was the best planner among his fellow survivalists, and if anybody could accomplish creating a secret survival hideout, it was Henry.

Henry thought that he might have to learn Chinese, as the teeming masses from Asia would invade, but China’s government collapsed, too, and from what Henry had heard, what used to be called the USA was having a delightful time of it, compared to what was happening in Europe and Asia. Africa and South America seemed to have the easiest time of it, as they were relatively unpopulated and not as oil-dependent as the industrialized nations, but they were in no shape to invade, either, and what would they invade for? The cities were useless husks. Henry heard tales of cannibalism in the collapsed cities and shanty towns around the world, at least while some radio stations still broadcasted. The last one went silent months ago.

Henry heard rumors that those Illuminati, with their advanced technologies, had fled the scene until the chaos died down, and then they would reappear from their off-world and underground enclaves to complete their final enslavement of the survivors. It was happening just as Henry feared. Actually, it was worse than he feared. Losing his wife and child was not part of his plan, not by any means. However, there was a positive outcome to their untimely deaths; it meant more food for Henry, and he could hole up longer in his hideaway and increase his chances of surviving the transition.

As Henry peered at the terrain with his periscope, in the distance he saw familiar faces. It was George and his family. George was Henry’s closest friend among the survivalists, and although Henry never even told George where his hideout was, George had a general idea of where it could be, and there he was, with his wife and children. Because George’s family survived, it looked like they ran out of food, while George still had a year’s worth of food in his bunker. Henry had already killed more than one former survivalist as they sought Henry’s hideaway, but he did not want to have to kill George and his family. He wished that they would go and starve someplace else. In the past several months, Henry had devoted all of his available time to camouflaging his hideout better, making sure that there were minimal tracks near his hideaway.

As George’s family began to come near his hideaway, Henry lowered his periscope and prayed that they would not find him. He even heard his named called out from above. George was talented, and Henry did not relish the idea of trying to kill George. George’s wife was highly skilled in weaponry, as was George’s oldest child. The outcome of a battle was by no means a foregone conclusion. One call seemed to come from almost directly on top of Henry’s bunker, but eventually the calls became fainter and ceased altogether before dusk. According to Henry’s protocol, he would not venture from his bunker for at least three days after a scavenger visited his area. Once, Henry ventured out the next day, to find the scavengers waiting for him. It was a short, bloody fight. Henry had a hard time with killing the last member of that band, a girl of about twelve. But nobody could be allowed to survive, to bring others.

As Henry climbed into bed that night, he thanked God that George’s family did not discover him. Tomorrow would be more surveillance of the vicinity, and Henry had been shorting his rations for some months, to last as long as possible, but he was losing weight. If scavengers did not stop coming in the coming year, Henry would have to come up with plan G, but for that night, he was just grateful to be alive. Another day of life meant that he might live through this transitional time, but he was beginning to wonder if the world that he would find would be worth living in. But he was determined to find out.


That was my first negative vision, and there will be others in the coming weeks.

Best,

Wade

[Ilie Pandia]

Wow... that was a horror story reminding me of Blade Runner and other "positive" futures presented on TV.

I see the connection of "Energy running the show", or to be more precise, lack of energy running through your story, but it does not relate to Free Energy

I had expected you would write about FE weaponry, space battles and near destruction of the planet with people forced to live under ground for the next 100,000 years...

If I could I'd ask one question of Henry: "What are you surviving for?!"

I don't want to ruin anybody's negative visions but I don't think this is a possible scenario for us right now.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Ilie:

Stay tuned to the negative visions posts. Another will be an FE nightmare, and another will be another running out of energy vision, and I may come up with some others. They are fearful visions that have energy as their centerpiece. The ones that I have in mind will be the kinds of nightmares that Level 5s have:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level5

They are the kinds of visions that a Richard Heinberg might have. The future is not yet written, and humanity is not out of the woods yet. They will not be the futures that I want to sign up for, but people dream them, more than probably anybody wants to admit. Actually, I have heard that a version of Henry’s world is one of those planned by Godzilla, as the ranks of humanity get thinned out to 500 million or so, who can more readily form the pliant slave base that the hyper-elites seek. A nice little blowout could do the job. Nothing that makes Earth’s surface uninhabitable for a thousand years, but just something to thin out the ranks by 95% or so, and leave the survivors in a state of easy enslavement.

Both this world:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roadsblade

and this one:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

lie three hundred years into our future, with many in-between, such as where George Bush the Eighth is president. Fractions of today’s humanity will experience all of them, I believe. I know the futures that I want to experience, and they are not living life (or dying) in Henry’s world. More like Ileah’s:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post330505

Best,

Wade

[Elly]

Actually, this vision is a reflection of the world depicted in the movie "The Road". http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0898367/

Every time I think or hear about preparedness, this movie comes to mind. Not an unlikely scenario considering the fragility of our technology. If an event was to disrupt the energy grid, the consequences would be scary. A solar storm of the magnitude of the Carrington Event in 1859 would be catastrophic in today's word (just think about all the nuclear power plants). Knowing this, it makes no sense to be dependent to such a system for our basic needs.

[Lefty Dave]

I often wonder why peaceful nations don't build LFTR thorium reactors...from what I've read, they seem safer... anyone here have input on them?

http://energyfromthorium.com/

thanks

[CdnSirian]

" THE WORD AMBITIOUS best describes Robert Balmanno’s entrance into the distinguished domain of the science fiction dystopia with his book September Snow, the first book in his planned four-book The Blessings of Gaia series. With this series, Balmanno offers a unique and timely approach to this subgenre with his focus on a climate out of control and a state religion based on nature worship, which, counter-intuitively, offers a framework for totalitarian control. " Henry (Wade's post above) would fit right in, in this book series' challenging landscapes.

Full review at http://peacecorpswriters.org/pages/2...embersnow.html

[Wade Frazier]

Hi all:

I’ll put, The Road on my list of movies to watch.

I think that Gates advocates thorium or something like it:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#gates

but all fission is an inherently dirty solution, is not a long-term solution, and is also a far cry from abundance.

I’ll put September Snow on my long list. All dystopian literature that I have read I think can be helpful see where we may be heading, so we can change course.

Best,

Wade

[haibane]

LFTR is being worked on as we speak, in several places. As you may have learned from http://energyfromthorium.com/ it is now a matter of who manages to get the patents registered first - us (whoever that is) or China. There was a conference held in Australia last November and some strategic partnerships were forged. As this isn't a matter of research anymore, but rather engineering, it is no sci-fi - you can expect fully working proof-of-concept small scale reactors to go online within 5 years (it still takes time, not just engineering-wise but also because of politics, outdated regulation and of course financing).

[Wade Frazier]

OK, here is one more like what Ilie was “hoping” for. This one may seem a little over the top, but the Level 5 fears:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level5

that I see seem to be along lines like this.

An Unexpected Outcome

Sally’s mother brought home more gold with the groceries. As with the rest of it, she put it in a bin in the living room corner. Gold was becoming so cheap that cars began to get plated in it, as well as some homes. At Sally’s house, they only covered their plates and eating utensils with gold, and Sally’s mother stored the rest.

“You never know when the gold will run out, Sally. We need to make sure that we have enough to get us through the lean times.” Sally wondered what lean times her mother was referring to. She heard stories of her mother’s austere childhood, when gasoline was rationed, but those days seemed to be over forever, with the advent of free energy machines. But Sally felt the fear in her mother’s voice and could see it in her eyes. Their good fortune was not expected to last.

When free energy was originally introduced by the president, there was a spectacular demonstration at the White House, with the president leading the festivities. The technology had been confiscated from a grass roots organization that spanned some states near the Rockies, but it had been declared a terrorist organization and its members had all been captured and put into detention camps, the new ones that had been built for the never-ending War on Terror.

Just how those people with their free energy machines were terrorists, Sally was not sure, but the president assured the nation that they had terrorist beliefs and plans, and had to be harshly dealt with. The leaders had all been eliminated at a televised mass execution, the first seen in the USA since the 19th century. They were not hung, but were all vaporized in a demonstration of what their free energy devices were capable of. The leaders were not permitted to speak at their brief trials, but the rumor was that the grass roots movement was trying to make their homes self-sufficient, without the need to buy energy. That may have been true, because one of the charges against them was terrorism against the oil companies, trying to ruin them. As compensation, the oil companies were granted monopoly rights over free energy technology, and were also deputized to ensure that terrorists never acquired such technology. The president was an ex-oil company executive himself, but he said that there was no conflict of interest in that peculiar arrangement, and he said it with conviction, so the nation was convinced.

Over the years, the definition of terrorism extended in ways that seemed strange, and the worst thing was if your neighbor accused you of being a terrorist. So, everybody was very nice to everybody else, especially when all the gold began flooding into America.

Not long after the announcement by the president, an African country was declared a terrorist nation. Free energy weapons were used to vaporize the nation. The president said that those people were unsalvageable, but children under two-years old were spared and sent to a desert that was being reclaimed using free energy technology, and they were being raised free of the terrorist ways of their parents.

As luck would have it, that vaporized African nation was sitting on top of the largest gold deposits on Earth, with veins that extended miles into the Earth. The oil companies’ free energy machines were used to mine that gold. Their free energy devices cut into the ground like a hot knife through butter, vaporizing it. A process easily separated the gold from the other elements. Many other valuable metals were mined with the gold, but the president called the gold America’s reward for being so vigilant against terror, and it was cheaply sold to Americans.

Other nations began to complain, and the president declared one of them a terrorist nation and vaporized it, too. Vaporizing a nation created atmospheric effects. There were some very beautiful sunsets in the days after that nation was vaporized. After that second terrorist nation was vaporized, which also was coincidentally sitting on valuable ore deposits that the oil companies soon began to mine, the other nations stopped complaining. They did not get the benefit of free energy, however. The president declared that any nation that did not obtain American permission before trying to develop free energy would be considered a terrorist nation and dealt with accordingly. So far, the oil companies had not granted licenses to any other nations, and a supranational governing body was established to regulate free energy, and there were confiscations and trials almost daily, as terrorists around the globe were rounded up, given trials, and vaporized.

Sally’s mother seemed to be in love with the president, who was on TV almost daily. The way that he manfully activated the free energy devices that executed those American terrorists impressed Sally’s mother, and many other American women. The president also activated the free energy devices that vaporized those terrorist nations, as well as leading the ceremony that began the mining operations. He said that such activities were man’s work, and he always went to church and and prayed for the souls that he would soon liberate, but he suspected that God sent nearly all of them to Hell.

Gold was just one benefit of free energy. The end of terrorism was another. The Internet was shut down internationally during the trial of those American terrorists, so other terrorists could not use it for their nefarious activities, and it was never turned back on. The president said that the Internet was the refuge of terrorists, so when the Internet was turned back on, it was confined to the USA, and was run by Fox Communications, The Truth Company.

It seemed like the entire world had turned terrorist, because the president signed legislation that forbid Americans to visit foreign nations. Not everybody was happy with that situation, but those who complained were declared terrorists. If they were lucky, they were put into the rehabilitation camps, but most were summarily vaporized, and the trials began to seem rather perfunctory.

When Sally was younger, she heard about that grass roots organization, and heard some of their message. They claimed that Earth could be made into a heavenly place with free energy, and that everybody could live in peace and plenty. It was too bad that they were also terrorists. But Sally wondered about their message sometimes. Maybe when all the terrorists were dead or retrained, then that dream of peace and plenty could happen. But the president said that the War on Terror would last for lifetimes, and he sure seemed smart. If Sally could not live to see that day when free energy brought peace and plenty to the world, at least she could eat off of gold plates in the meantime.

[Ilie Pandia]

Wade... you're a "terrorist" with a very dark sense of humor!

[Dennis Leahy]

Dammit, Wade! Stop it! Didn't your mother tell you that if you cross your eyes too frequently and for too long, that they would get stuck there? Now, cut it out before you get stuck in your writing, and end up only writing paperbacks to fill the "Horrific Sci-Fi" shelf at the library!

Dennis

{edit} Oh, I had better add at least one LOL to my post, as it was tongue-in-cheek, and my faux-seriousness may not translate well (especially without the facial expression, including a John Belushi raised eyebrow.)

[Wade Frazier]

Dennis!

I said that you did not have to read it. I have a few others like that to write. Hey, it is almost fun to write stuff like that, and I’ll try to make the next ones more “realistic.” Seriously, the Level 5 fears are along the lines of those posts. Some are more sophisticated versions of what I have written on this thread, and some even go further over the top. Here is the “funny” part of what I am doing at Avalon. There is no end of dystopian visions out there, but I have never seen anything from Hollywood that hinted at what a world based on FE could look like. Just watch a Hollywood blockbuster get made soon whose theme is like Sally’s world.

I loved playing King’s Quest, back when I had time to play computer games, but now all that is out there are blood-spattered shooters.

I put out plenty, and I mean plenty, of positive visions of what a world based on FE can look like, but my “conspiracy” essay:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm

gets more traffic than all of my FE essays put together. That is where the public is, but I am doing what I can to get it going in the right direction. I don’t want to be accused of being a Pollyanna, either. Exploring the nature of the Level 5 fears can be good work, as it gets them out in the open. How “realistic” are Level 5 fears? Well, if we totally ignore the transformative effects of what FE can do, and just project the Bush/Cheney/Murdoch consciousness into the future unaltered, then Sally’s world is not so outlandish, I am sorry to say.

That is why I am doing what I can to raise the vibe to get the lamb stampede going.

The race is on….

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Well, Dennis, you will be happy to know that I just got shoved to the back page by this:

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/m...134239007.html

Wade

[zenith]

Someone tinkering with things beyond their
comprehension destroys the entire Universe.

The End.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Zenith:

This is turning into the laugh thread, not the fear thread. I doubt that anybody will beat your succinct post for getting the point across.

Best,

Wade

[CdnSirian]

"at least she could eat off of gold plates in the meantime." Oh Master of Irony....with the gold gleaming in their homes, wouldn't they be blinded by the (Luciferian) light? It is nice to lighten up a little...