Alex Jones...Truthseeker or liar?

[Eric J (Viking)]

Here's one guy I can't make out...anyways found this on my travels!!

You decide....

Watch it to the end ...mmmm!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=K4Tj-2QxRfw

viking

[jackovesk]

Posted by viking (here)
Here's one guy I can't make out...anyways found this on my travels!!

You decide....

Watch it to the end ...mmmm!

viking

I am growing tired of those who rubbish Alex Jones.

Ron Paul doesn't rubbish Alex Jones nor does Judge Andrew Napolitano, Rand Paul, Webster Griffin Tarpley, Governor Jesse Ventura, Willie Nelson, Gerald Celente, Paul Craig Roberts, George Noory, Max Keiser, Bob Chapman, Peter Schiff, etc, etc, THE LIST IS ENDLESS.

So what if he might be over exuberent at times, he still gets the TRUTH OUT doesn't he.

On the Jewish issue, I admit he is reluctant to really expose the Corrupt Zionists, but my guess is, he knows if he did he would immediately labelled Anti-Sementic, would be off the air and would wind up with a bullet in the back of his head if he went too far.

Having said that he continually exposes curruption from the Jewish Cabal i.e. Zbrenski, Wolfawitz, Raum Emmanuel, Larry Silverstein, Greenspan, Geitner, Beinanke, basically the lot of them...

I'll say it again he has woken more people up to the TRUTH than any other radio host on the planet! So what's wrong with that!

[Arpheus]

Alex jones is a fear mongering mentally disturbed,this guy spoke so much rubish all these years he's been on the air,and people still listen to what he has to say we live on some sad times these days heh.

[FrankoL]

Its indeed a good question! To be honest, I haven't figured it out. He is a quality reporter (in terms of technology), good points, very good presentation...to sum up, a real professional. On the other side when I am listening to him, I have mixed feelings, like he is not 100% with the topic. Like acting.

[Dale]

On the Jewish issue, I admit he is reluctant to really expose the Corrupt Zionists, but my guess is, he knows if he did he would immediately labelled Anti-Sementic, would be off the air and would wind up with a bullet in the back of his head if he went too far.

I'd say so, as well. I think Alex knows the "limits" on what he can say during his radio show. There's nothing wrong with that. He's doing a great deal to expose some of these crooks from the cabal. I just don't think the man wants to see anything happen to either himself or his family.

Alex Jones is a bit of a hot head who gets carried away during some shows, but he's certainly not a "disinformation agent." Now, do I agree with everything he says? No. I will say that Alex Jones is doing more to change the status quo than people on YouTube that make silly videos calling everyone who disagrees with them some kind of counterintelligence operative.

[Fredkc]

Alex Jones...Truthseeker or liar?

How come everything HAS to be "Either Or" with people.

Alex Jones has a place in the great scheme of things.
And yeah, he is irritating as hell to listen to (seems to be what it takes for some folk),
and he bangs it like a monkey with a cheap drum IMO.
But within its limits it does work.

He is like the "See Spot run" of social revolution through personal freedom.
I began my personal journey towards seeing what government has become about 25 years ago. By the time I'd even heard of the guy, I found him a bit refreshing because he was at least talking some good subjects. But in the grand scheme of things, "A-Z", AJ is probably very very good at "A-C or D".

Does that make him wrong? Disinfo? No.
It makes him a way-point. And when you reach the end of that line, you go on to others. It's part of learning. Otherwise...

Well, imagine yourself in a college level English course, and you're spending your time criticizing the vocabulary your 2nd grade teacher used in class. Is this productive? Are you learning anything new in doing it?
Give-a-think
Fred

[RedeZra]

why did Alex Jones loose it when the caller mentioned Benjamin Freedman

is that not interesting and worth a little research

[Solphilos]

Alex Jones; this guy is the biggest joke in the field, and anyone who is paying attention will find it quite obvious that he is full of ****.

That said however, it matters not what his intentions are, if he is genuine or a paid shill. None of these trivial facts are important in the big picture. Truth is what we are talking about here, and truth is our birthright, as it is the essence of who and what we are. If Alex is a shill, he cannot harm the Truth 'movement', as Truth always finds it's way into the hearts of those who seek it.

For instance, a good friend of mine was first introduced to the grand conspiracy subject through the Alex Jones show some years ago. Before this, he was just an average guy who thought nothing of such ideas. I would attempt to discuss spirituality and the occult with him, and he just would not hear it, as do many others. Alex Jones, through his fear propaganda, grabbed my friends attention, and opened him up to an entire new realm of thinking and research.

In the beginning, this friend of mine was completely wrapped in fear and depression after discovering the nature of the game that being played, but over time his inquiries spread to other areas, and now he is an extremely spiritual guy and we have a closer bond than ever.

I doesn't matter what or who Alex Jones is; the Universe always evolves towards higher order, and it is my sincere belief that even that which is designed to hold us back can be used as a channel for the divine light of Truth. Wasn't the internet originally designed as a function of the military for warfare? Now here it is today, a source of light that is awakening people and raising awareness on a global scale.

[Truthseeker512]

How is telling ppl the truth fear mongering.

Its up to u how u deal with the information he is giving out.

personally I do not feel fear from his shows, i feel empowered.

[Solphilos]

Posted by Truthseeker512 (here)
How is telling ppl the truth fear mongering.

Its up to u how u deal with the information he is giving out.

personally I do not feel fear from his shows, i feel empowered.

Knowing that the world is f'd up will give you no power, the empowerment comes from within.

As for the fear mongering, yes, you are correct that it is the individuals responsibility how he/she deals with the information.
But, the Alex Jones show goes out of it's way to portray the information in a terrifying manner, with the dark sounding music, his pessimistic language and portrayal of events, and his general persona. The way the info is presented to the average person tends to scare the hell out of them, and leave them feeling hopeless and frightened. But, fear sells, and it is my belief that Alex Jones is a salesman more than a government shill.

[pilotsimone]

Posted by Fredkc (here)
How come everything HAS to be "Either Or" with people.

Alex Jones has a place in the great scheme of things.
And yeah, he is irritating as hell to listen to (seems to be what it takes for some folk),
and he bangs it like a monkey with a cheap drum IMO.
But within its limits it does work.

He is like the "See Spot run" of social revolution through personal freedom.
I began my personal journey towards seeing what government has become about 25 years ago. By the time I'd even heard of the guy, I found him a bit refreshing because he was at least talking some good subjects. But in the grand scheme of things, "A-Z", AJ is probably very very good at "A-C or D".

Does that make him wrong? Disinfo? No.
It makes him a way-point. And when you reach the end of that line, you go on to others. It's part of learning. Otherwise...

Well, imagine yourself in a college level English course, and you're spending your time criticizing the vocabulary your 2nd grade teacher used in class. Is this productive? Are you learning anything new in doing it?
Give-a-think
Fred

Love this post.

[Fredkc]

aww gawrsh. Ty Simone

Posted by Truthseeker512 (here)
How is telling ppl the truth fear mongering.
Its up to u how u deal with the information he is giving out.
personally I do not feel fear from his shows, i feel empowered.

TruthSeeker;
Lemme take a shot.
As I said, I think AJ is a way-point. He's the bit of grit in the oyster.
Now what?

IMO, this is where the AJ show comes up short. When it comes to answers, solutions, what to do with what he tells you. And yes, I even think he does this on purpose. No, I am not saying it's a plot. There's now way I'd know, if I wanted to.

But he is operating both an important piece of work, and a "show". And so long as he stays on his side of the fence, he gets to stay. Once he begins any kind of "organizing" campaign, and I mean a serious one, he is open to a whole new kind of trouble.

Especially if he's successful. Once he crosses that line he is open to a whole new kind of mischief by people in authority. They'll use words like Sedition, Inciting a riot, and yes, treason.

Imagine a rally somewhere, and the police are used to break it up. How long before the government press whores, both commercial and civil begin blaming the arrests, injuries and even deaths of poor deluded people on following a "nut" like AJ?

Fear, like beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
So if the limits given above are correct, it explains why AJ "has no answers". But there are conclusions. and so the next piece lies with the listener. If what people take from the show is a very pissed off attitude, an abhorrence of what goes on in the people's name, and a fear of where it leads, "well done AJ!" But...

if it instills in people, or people allow themselves to be satisfied by a simple yearning to tune in day after day, for another episode, another helping, then is it really fear mongering, or "fear hovering" on the part of the listener?

I am a very rabid believer in a deep change in the way my country operates. But I also find myself torn between two fears (must be old age sneakin' up on me).

I can see huge, inevitable changes coming for my country. One financial, the other political. What makes them inevitable is both the determination of whose pushing us in the pit, and the complacency of the people. Neither beast is awakened lightly.

Our current path extended, those who brought us here will lose just as badly as the people.

Yet what I want is a resurrection, not a revolution. What we had worked for the better part of two centuries. A revolution would throw the baby out with the bathwater. And this brings me to the next question;

Who would I trust to seize that situation and restore what did work, without simply beginning the crawl towards slavery all over?

In US politics today, I can think of only one man, maybe two (slim odds, huh).
I am not sure the populace here is educated in the statecraft of freedom to see the way either. I even have days where I'm almost convinced that living through a financial and political collapse may be the only way to assemble enough people to affect the kind of change I think is needed. Even then, a long shot.

Took me years to come to it, and when I look to see whose following, I am not much encouraged. To resurrect the government described by the Constitution, without violence would take a "Gandhi-an effort" the likes of which this planet has never seen (Took a long look in the mirror afore I typed that... don't think it's me).

Anyway... my thinking on AJ. The rest I threw in for free
Fred

[morguana]

Well said fred

[Rimbaud]

Should I even watch it?..I'm trying not to get into confrontations rather than deliberately seeking them right now..It's all too easy to get into a fight..it's way harder to get out of one!

Rimbaud

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Sorry M..posted seconds after you..Love
R

[Arpheus]

I love your posts fred !

[Tuza]

Posted by Rimbaud (here)
Should I even watch it?..I'm trying not to get into confrontations rather than deliberately seeking them right now..It's all too easy to get into a fight..it's way harder to get out of one!

Rimbaud

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Sorry M..posted seconds after you..Love
R

Rim, if you are already upset about the abuse of children then don't watch Bohemian Grove.

IMHO I am glad Alex infiltrated and filmed the goings on there because it put me in the loop of what does go on in there and I have seen all the different grove youtube vids and I made up my own mind.

[Arpheus]

Yeah that video is a bit on the heavy side if what they claim is true,and i wouldnt be surprise if the horrors are for real tho...

[Bill Ryan]

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Truthseeker.

[unplugged]

Alex Jones is ALEX JONES. He is demonstrably human, prone to anger and plentiful in judgment. He provides insightful interviews, especially when he interviews insightful guests. He is loud, vituperative, mean-spirited and opinionated. He is also thoughtful, reflective, intelligent, and kind.

I like him.

As with all things I remain selective. I choose to include him from time to time among the voices I listen to. There is a good possibility I don't really know the energy that causes people to doubt his sincerity because he comes to me filtered via his guests. if he's interviewing David Ickes I listen to the tapes on youtube. There are other sound minds he has interviewed who provided fantastic information because of Alex' questions and/or conjectures.

Best of all I control the <CLOSE TAB> button on Firefox and can tune him in or tune him out -- as I choose.

[Luke]

Alex Jones has his uses.
He is often barks at wrong tree, but all in all he does reach people. To play ball further, there are others, including us here.
Remember, it's not a matter of finding one guru/leader/ascended master. Its a matter of spiritual evolving. Different people start at different levels. different "flavoured" messages resonate with them. AJ fills one gaps, and I think he does it well.
And I think that personally he seeks truth too, but every path is different, there is no order in one finds clues.
All in all +1 for truthseeker

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Posted by Fredkc (here)
I can see huge, inevitable changes coming for my country. One financial, the other political. What makes them inevitable is both the determination of whose pushing us in the pit, and the complacency of the people. Neither beast is awakened lightly.

Our current path extended, those who brought us here will lose just as badly as the people.

Yet what I want is a resurrection, not a revolution. What we had worked for the better part of two centuries. A revolution would throw the baby out with the bathwater. And this brings me to the next question;

Who would I trust to seize that situation and restore what did work, without simply beginning the crawl towards slavery all over?

Fred, I think this train of thought needs a thread on his own. I see too much "solutions" out there that just replace bad slave driver with "benevolent one". Worse, I see people believing in them, even here.
The trick always is, people are neophobiac. They see current system as the only possible solution. Just as workers in Poland in 1980's did not wanted to throw down communism: they wanted socialism with "human face". I see similar, dangerous, patterns here.
Without being shown that piramidal manner is only possible way for society to work, revolution will boil down to reinstating slavery.

But we are here FOR consciousness change, aren't we?
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