Why Pie'n'eal has left the forum.

[kersley]

YES... a flag system would work well. it will make all the dark forces on here light up in bright red..

[markpierre]

Posted by Tarka the Duck (here)

That sounds good too...on a more drastic track, could the "ignore" feature mean that that person is not able to post on your threads? Or is that going too far?

I think it would be a loss to censure what could be opportunities. It's difficult a lot of the time to understand if something was a reasonable or useful comment or not.

I think if people could see a range of true reactions and found that they were getting reactions contrary to what they hoped for, they might rethink what they have to say or how, maybe in a nice organic way.
Or whether to say anything.
It doesn't need to be associated with who it is that does or doesn't appreciate the post. That should be completely anonymous.

The right response to anything is to consider your agenda or motivation.

[Tarka the Duck]

Posted by WhiteCrowBlackDeer (here)

Posted by Tarka the Duck (here)
Tony has asked me to post this.

Dear Tarka the Duck,
I hope you are doing okay. My guess is that you are feeling the loss of a dear PA Friend and Teacher. I'm thinking of you.
Peace,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer
................................................

Thank you for that, WCBD! That is so kind.

It's not quite so simple though...I'm married to the old bugger...

[unicorny]

Pie'n'eal, I'm totally gutted that you are leaving the forum I love your posts and get so much out of them although often I dont feel like I can comment on what you say it helps me so much I know what you are saying about negative posting. Your descision has made a sad day that wee bit sadder for me.
with love
unicorny

[Kimberley]

Tony Much love to you always in all ways!!!

[Deega]

Thanks Tarka, great of you to share this lost.

As we know, we live in a dualistic world where both polarities manifest, and most often times, we love the positive over the negative.

But unfortunately, it’s the negative who bring us out of our security, and we don’t always have the best of response always. I would say Tony, you’re a great soul, you know a lot of things, I love to read your Tread, I don’t always comments because, I feel that I don’t have good contributions to make. I would say Tony, shake this one out, you’re more that the negative shed on you!

All the best to you Tony and whichever path you choose, all my best wishes.

Deega

[christian]

I don't like the idea of thread starters moderating their thread with other means than replying or ignoring specific posts. For them to have the power to delete others' postings would be ripe for abuse.

I don't like the coloured flag system either. Nobody likes to be called names and put down. If someone violates the forum guidelines this can be reported and the mods can decide on an issue, works just fine.

[andrewgreen]

He's turning his energies to what he perceives will be more useful and I hope he's right. A loss to this website but probably a positive move for Tony. There is definite paradox's associated with following the alternative media maybe Tony is now more aware of them or more aware his energies aren't having the desired affect of helping people overcome illusions and paradox's in the way he desired.

[Debra]

Pie n eal, of all the posters, in all the forums, I have always found a safe space in your gentle garden domain. I wish you would stay, like all the others are saying because you are special - your words and the energy you imbue to carry them through - tell me you are a fine human being with conscious soul connection.
Your action to depart, now throws your thinking on buddhism into the light. A savvy PR person would also say: good move.
But I feel that this is a decision borne out of deep concern and very close to your heart. By telling us of your reasons, also serves as a reflection for us all. And that is the ripple effect you have created already. Powerful.
If you are back in these parts, Tony, don´t be a stranger. Your voice is always welcomed from Zebra x

[Curt]

Posted by chiquetet (here)
I don't like the idea of thread starters moderating their thread with other means than replying or ignoring specific posts. For them to have the power to delete others' postings would be ripe for abuse.

I don't like the coloured flag system either. Nobody likes to be called names and put down. If someone violates the forum guidelines this can be reported and the mods can decide on an issue, works just fine.

That sounds 100% correct to my ears....There is a system in place already that can deal with these things.

[greybeard]

Posted by Tarka the Duck (here)

Posted by WhiteCrowBlackDeer (here)

Posted by Tarka the Duck (here)
Tony has asked me to post this.

Dear Tarka the Duck,
I hope you are doing okay. My guess is that you are feeling the loss of a dear PA Friend and Teacher. I'm thinking of you.
Peace,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer
................................................

Thank you for that, WCBD! That is so kind.

It's not quite so simple though...I'm married to the old bugger...

I think it is great that you are both so enthusiastic for your path and obviously have a good relationship.
If Tony reads your post that Im responding to DUCK!!!!!
Humor rules ok!!!
My regards to himself.

Chris

[CdnSirian]

I'm very sad to see Tony go. He persisted for a long time in his steady, thoughtful posts. He reminded me many times of how to return my balance, and focus on simplicity. He reminded me that meditation is never perfected, and does not need to be.

It is disappointing to read a new thread here, see some interesting information or a viewpoint that seemingly invites discourse, and then respond with some ideas about it, and then Smack! Zap! Pow! Usually in the form of snide comments like "do your homework" or the follow up by a third party with a 3000 word essay that has Nothing to do with the thread. The original poster does not come back to take care of their discussion or keep it on track, or invite someone to start their own thread. The whole thing just gets wild and it is completely a waste of time to keep posting and respectfully inform this person - that's a different topic dear - or that person - what exactly do you mean by...it's a waste of time.

Many of Tony's threads were long and fascinating with a wonderfully peaceful discourse about the how-to's and wherefores and so forth about the mind, the constant seductions from the culture to stay forever distracted, and evoked thoughtful responses.

However, I learned that when I see a thread that has become long, it is usually best to pass on it. I know it's going to be a whirlwind of disorganized or just plain rude nastiness and competition. I still get drawn into some with enticing titles or a seemingly organized presentation that evokes near hysteria, and is then abandoned or the flames are fanned. Who benefits?

Such a shame. Will miss Tony very much. He was our own "Good night and good luck" voice of calm.

[Tarka the Duck]

Posted by CurtisW (here)

Posted by chiquetet (here)
I don't like the idea of thread starters moderating their thread with other means than replying or ignoring specific posts. For them to have the power to delete others' postings would be ripe for abuse.

I don't like the coloured flag system either. Nobody likes to be called names and put down. If someone violates the forum guidelines this can be reported and the mods can decide on an issue, works just fine.

That sounds 100% correct to my ears....There is a system in place already that can deal with these things.

I'm not sure that everyone would agree that it's working fine - I have personally experienced some strange mod decisions that I don't agree with - but in that case, I suppose it's a matter of like it or put up with it or leave.

[markpierre]

Posted by CurtisW (here)

Posted by chiquetet (here)
I don't like the idea of thread starters moderating their thread with other means than replying or ignoring specific posts. For them to have the power to delete others' postings would be ripe for abuse.

I don't like the coloured flag system either. Nobody likes to be called names and put down. If someone violates the forum guidelines this can be reported and the mods can decide on an issue, works just fine.

That sounds 100% correct to my ears....There is a system in place already that can deal with these things.

Actually I agree. None of it sits right. Here we are talking about babysitting each other when we should be able to just ask for respect and thoughtfulness.

[Corncrake]

Dear Tarka

Please tell Tony how sorry I am that he has felt the need to leave. Though I have rarely commented - other than hitting the thank you button - on his threads I have read most of them and enjoyed them. They were often very thought provoking but not always - for me at least - easy to respond to deserving a lot of pondering and time which I don't have. Tony definitely added a spiritual perspective to the forum as well as some down to earth common sense. When he wanted to let off steam it was always gently done!

I briefly met Tony at the London meet-up last summer - I was only there for an hour but hoped we would all be able to meet again this year.

Re-reading this it sounds a bit like an obit - sorry!

Anyway maybe - after a break - he will come back.

Best wishes, Sarah

[Tarka the Duck]

Posted by markpierre (here)

Posted by CurtisW (here)

Posted by chiquetet (here)
I don't like the idea of thread starters moderating their thread with other means than replying or ignoring specific posts. For them to have the power to delete others' postings would be ripe for abuse.

I don't like the coloured flag system either. Nobody likes to be called names and put down. If someone violates the forum guidelines this can be reported and the mods can decide on an issue, works just fine.

That sounds 100% correct to my ears....There is a system in place already that can deal with these things.

Actually I agree. None of it sits right. Here we are talking about babysitting each other when we should be able to just ask for respect and thoughtfulness.

You'd think so, wouldn't you?

[SEAM]

TONY - A warrior who stumbles onto a "Petty Tyrant" is a lucky one... I thought you were above..

Quote: "Many people fall victim to the Petty Tyrants of the world and being defeated by one means a loss of one's vital energies. The Seer Don Juan explained to Castaneda that it was the task of Warriors to learn to face these Petty Tyrants with temperance and to prevail against their torments. Dealing with Petty Tyrants called for four qualities of warriorship: control, discipline, forbearance and timing. Whereas to be defeated meant to act in anger, and potentially join the ranks of the Petty Tyrants."

TUFFLUV

[Tarka the Duck]

Posted by SEAM (here)
TONY - A warrior who stumbles onto a "Petty Tyrant" is a lucky one... I thought you were above..

Quote: "Many people fall victim to the Petty Tyrants of the world and being defeated by one means a loss of one's vital energies. The Seer Don Juan explained to Castaneda that it was the task of Warriors to learn to face these Petty Tyrants with temperance and to prevail against their torments. Dealing with Petty Tyrants called for four qualities of warriorship: control, discipline, forbearance and timing. Whereas to be defeated meant to act in anger, and potentially join the ranks of the Petty Tyrants."

TUFFLUV

Thanks SEAM - who could disagree? But just to clarify, T is not acting in anger...

I'm not angry – but I am sad that the world is in such a bad state, and we are trying to find a way to help one another...but people are still choosing to be so negative.I'm not angry – but I am sad that the world is in such a bad state, and we are trying to find a way to help one another...but people are still choosing to be so negative.

[crested-duck]

On a serious note-Pie if you need some reassurance that what you've been doing here matters, just look at these posts,damn near 80 alreaddy in just a few hours. And I was dead serious in my last post about getting t. level checked.-----On a lighter note now- Did anybody else notice today is 3.14 -It's officially Pie day ! and Happy Birthday to ROMANWYK !

[WHOMADEGOD]

He provided balance.

The Jigsaw has just lost a major piece.

Many thanks and many blessings.

Mark