David Wilcock "DIVINE INTERVENTION: Section I -- Defeating Financial Tyranny"

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Posted by Saracatt (here)
I'm listening to the Drake interview now. Could someone explain why this would cause such a disruption-- ie needing to buy toilet paper? How long do you think this would last?

Thanks!

If you have food and water you will find toilet paper valuable. Without food and water, no toilet paper is needed.

[lilac]

Well, I thought the guy went a bit on about the TP, but seriously, has nobody here used water to wash your butt? I've got my rice and beans and gallons of water standing by, but there's no way I'm filling my car with toilet paper. What a luxury. If I had my own place, I think my preparations would include building an outhouse. Toilet paper suggests flushing toilets - you're that lucky, so why not use the bidet?

More importantly, I am thrilled with this interview. I'm not familiar enough with different American police forces and "marshalls", but the plan seems plausible. I do wonder why they would be coming out with this info now. If I was a cabal with a cash-stuffed mattress, wouldn't I be getting on the next plane? He did say that "the team" would have the authority to go and find guilty parties all over the globe.

I am reminded of the tv series Jericho. It was interesting to see people taking the law into their own hands. There was one faction claiming to be the "new authority". It took the folks awhile to figure out who was trustworthy. I can imagine that kind of treachery and chaos would prevail for some time.

At the same time, I have despaired in the past, wondering what happened to all the good, clever, brave people of America. As the lights go on, the awakening grows and people are going to be hopping mad. Given a plan, a little momentum and something to hope for, human beings can be amazingly resilient, courageous and powerful.

[EnergyGardener]

Thanks and great credit to David Wilcox for taking his great risks and ridicule, but now rewarded to be in such a historic circumstance to help bring this about.

Now soon for the actual result of what warriors have been lauded (without knowing they volunteered and were used and sacrificed against our cause): Our family, our friends, our soldiers, civilian volunteers, our Federal Marshals, led by the "Sacred Brass," that good part of the Pentagon—will actually execute the actions necessary to deliver us our freedom, technically, in defense of the U.S. Constitution. This most historic accomplishment for our country, planet, galaxy and universe, results from great effort, sacrifice, risk, intelligence, coordination and faith (in themselves, each other and humanity) by such a key group of servants from many countries and places. For they have remained loyal to us, realizing that in keeping their necessary secrecy, it has appeared that we have been completely compromised and abandoned. No doubt some have been discovered and have already paid the ultimate price.

Like we have declared on PA threads (and posted elsewhere): "MAKE THIS GO VIRAL by an unknown person / Step One - Removal of the Illuminati," by RomanWKT, humanity has decided and Commanded that Enough is Enough from these beings—and abdication of our responsibilities: No more tyranny, warring, murder (including ritualistic sacrifice), slavery, pollution, poisoning, disease, abductions, confiscation of wealth, energy and food dependency for impoverishment, subliminal programming and subversive entertainment, suppression of reality and consciousness, news suppression and disinformation, all for ignorance, idiocy, selfishness, greed and duality—the illusion of separation.

The Illuminati chapter / "Reptoid Culture" on Earth is over!

It is time to manifest the infinite good potential of our Humanity—even our universe—the salvation, restoration and beautification of our Garden, our Earth, our Gaia, the Living Library.

Within days our soldiers will be patrolling our streets to secure the peace during this transition, subsequent to completion of business by our ET/ED/T families with housecleaning of the reptoids, grays and those heartless human accomplices—that sold out humanity for their personal gain.

As stated by others within this thread, we must do our part to continue to pass this information on so loss of life and property are minimized; this is but the beginning of the next chapter.

How fortunate are we to be here! This is the celebrated development that so many of us came here to realize; it is such a relief to know we are not alone, even better to know we are supported and led at the most vital place for fidelity within societies: Our military leadership.

It is time for our new chapter of human and Earth reality to move forward. I sincerely thank and send my love to all of our ET/ED & Terrestrial brothers and sisters, including many of you for hanging in there, for working toward this result; you know who you are.

This is such an important step; keep the vision, meditate and pray toward the best possible outcome; there will be sacrifices by military, police and citizens, too.

Very soon we will talk openly with positive reception to an awakening human populace; yes, by those that even today cannot understand why we are so different. Lucky for them we are: We are so going to be required to calmly explain that a wonderful life is beginning, while they will just be learning of such horrific crimes committed and planned by so many former leaders; they will be stunned to watch such well-known figureheads marched off to meet their fate.

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by Kimberley (here)
...and do your own search for Jim Marrs videos...and listen for yourself... I have my own 60 minute interview with Jim from a year ago and I am great with voice recognition... I have been working with voices most of my life...

Much love!!

I will put together a side by side clip tomorrow.....I do not have time for it now/tonight!!!

Hi Kimberley,

Even though he deliberately used a pseudonym, and is trying to remain anonymous, and he even said that (at this point), white hats that get 'outed' risk having their families slaughtered, then themselves...

Seriously, don't you think speculating - publicly - on a whistleblower's real name and deliberately putting them in jeopardy (or even just making them impotent) is a really bad idea?


Dennis

[araucaria]

On the serious subject of the voice, we've already had a thread on lookalike disinfo where people didn't actually look all that alike. Soundalikes can be the same, and people were also at one stage assimilating Andrew Basiago with David Wilcock. So I rather think this is not going to go anywhere, if indeed it should.

On the lighter toilet issue of toilet tissue, I too found it a little out of place, overstated, unless it was intended to reduce the fear factor, needing the loo being a synonym for being afraid. Anyone looking for alternative technologies might like to check 16th century satirist Rabelais's Gargantua, where he devotes his chapter 43 to this subject.

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/1200/1200-h/1200-h.htm

[Billy]

Posted by S-L (here)


Why would Bill Ryan bother visiting this forum? Or anyone? It's filled with feel-good disinformation meant to disable you. Most of you simply want to be saved. You are too afraid of the alternative. You will believe everything and anything that confirms this, and you will deny and attack anything that does not. It's a psychological weakness for humans generally, but Avalonians especially. You are so desperate to be saved. By anyone! You've faced reality, you're awake, but it's a scary world and now that you know, you're terrified of what you know. So you cling to heroes and saviours and feel good stories.

So unwise.

You are being manipulated, but you will attack anyone that points this out. You need to awaken a second time. You need discernment! You have none! You believe nearly anything that feels good and looks good. The powers that be are not afraid of you. They laugh at you. They manipulate you with feel good stories!

WAKE UP AND STOP BELIEVING EVERYTHING YOU READ, NO MATTER HOW HOPEFUL AND GOOD IT FEELS!

Great advise S-L and i promise never to read anything you write from here on. As you seem to like telling others what they NEED to do when you have no idea about who you are speaking with. Like many folks here in Avalon i do not base my beliefs on what i read here. I base my beliefs on my personal experiences throughout my journey of the soul over the last 57yrs in this life to date, and 69yrs in my last life. Please do not judge others through the mirror of your own eyes. what you say above is all about you. and you only.

regarding the highlighted "Anyone" why do you personally bother visiting this forum if it is all disinfo. hmmm

Peace

[Billy]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)

Posted by Kimberley (here)
...and do your own search for Jim Marrs videos...and listen for yourself... I have my own 60 minute interview with Jim from a year ago and I am great with voice recognition... I have been working with voices most of my life...

Much love!!

I will put together a side by side clip tomorrow.....I do not have time for it now/tonight!!!

Hi Kimberley,

Even though he deliberately used a pseudonym, and is trying to remain anonymous, and he even said that (at this point), white hats that get 'outed' risk having their families slaughtered, then themselves...

Seriously, don't you think speculating - publicly - on a whistleblower's real name and deliberately putting them in jeopardy (or even just making them impotent) is a really bad idea?


Dennis

I have to agree with Dennis here, even if someone recognizes the voice of someone assisting humanity but this person wants to remain annonymous due to concern for family and friends around them. I would say it is our duty to respect their secret until that person feels within themselves that it is safe and time to reveal their true identity.

Until then

peace

PS I liked the Drake interview, Great to hear about the loophole in the law that allowed America to become sovereign again.

[mountain_jim]

Well I am sorry I brought it up, as I don't disagree with the points Dennis made.

It was only because I did not believe it was him that I said anything, just relaying what my partner said off-hand, and did not anticipate the dialogue that followed.

Lesson learned for me.

(later edit: ) However, if one is a public figure, with many audio and video interviews available online and on TV, with a distinctive voice, then it seems obvious that one should then have one's voice sound significantly altered to remain anonymous in a particular situation, rather than assuming that all who listen will keep their suspicions to themselves.

[foreverfan]

I'm not posting this to say that Nathan is or isn't Jim Marrs. Just thought this is a great video.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=THCDPSh3Xq0

[Hervé]

If it is Jim Marrs... CAVEAT:

Jim Marrs: Another Gatekeeper Shows His Colors

Marrs' outrageous attempt to smear Cooper's discovery tells me much more about Jim Marrs than it does of William Cooper. Despite all of Marrs' books and acclaimed fame and adulation as a fearless journalist out to tell the "real" story about the conspiracy to assassinate Kennedy, Marrs is obviously a GATEKEEPER, of the same slick species seen in Noam Chomsky.

Marrs employs ALL of the standard smear tactics used by debunkers to erect the shaky scaffolding upon which his disingenuous assertions rests.

For starters, Marrs informs us with an authority bordering on disdain, that Cooper's "theory" about Greer shooting Kennedy is "not true", because "it simply didn't happen". Right (I suppose we should be grateful that he just didn't stop right there and sign his name to the essay).

Then comes the best part: five paragraphs of absolute mush and slop masquerading as evidence to support HIS thesis (dare I say "theory"?).

[Kimberley]

Posted by mountain_jim (here)
Well I am sorry I brought it up, as I don't disagree with the points Dennis made.

It was only because I did not believe it was him that I said anything, just relaying what my partner said off-hand, and did not anticipate the dialogue that followed.

Lesson learned for me.

(later edit: ) However, if one is a public figure, with many audio and video interviews available online and on TV, with a distinctive voice, then it seems obvious that one should then have one's voice sound significantly altered to remain anonymous in a particular situation, rather than assuming that all who listen will keep their suspicions to themselves.

This is an interesting question and dilemma for me...When M-Jim brought up the question I had a spot on hit that the identity in mention was indeed said person... I have already publicly stated this.

I said I was going to put together a side by side clip....and if I did I suspect there would be few with any doubt, because with hours of audio from both parties available it would be so easy to do....anyway I have decided not to do that.

As Jim, Drake, David, myself and thousands if not millions of others say...Do Not believe me for a minute. Do your own research!!!

Now that said...Isn't the reason most of us here in Avalon post is to share the truth? Shine light on the issues? Question everything? Help each other confirm what they have come to understand? etc?

Aren't we trying to weed out the lies and the truth? So what do you suggest ?

Going back to the David W, Kerry C, fake Irishman. David W crying incident/interview...So many were put out of by the fake accent and therefore questioned the integrity of what he said. Or the Charles interviews with his back to the camera...etc... And now this Drake & Jim? question.

For me knowing the truth of the identity of "Drake" adds validity to what he is saying it does not take away. Although I can certainly understand why a pseudonym is useful or safer etc... However this time we have a prominent, easily voice recognized whistleblower giving a message with a pseudonym.

Are we on the outside here putting the puzzle pieces together day after day supposed to be quite about some of the pieces and not about other of the pieces ? It is a dilemma for sure.

A dilemma (Greek: δί-λημμα "double proposition") is a problem offering two possibilities, neither of which is practically acceptable. One in this position has been traditionally described as "being on the horns of a dilemma", neither horn

being comfortable. This is sometimes more colorfully described as "Finding oneself impaled upon the horns of a dilemma", referring to the sharp points of a bull's horns, equally uncomfortable (and dangerous).

The dilemma is sometimes used as a rhetorical device, in the form "you must accept either A, or B"; here A and B would be propositions each leading to some further conclusion. Applied incorrectly, it constitutes a false dichotomy, a fallacy.

Aren't we here working on lifting the vail and by doing so helping others to do so?

I do not have THE answer for you. I do have an answer for me, that is all that matters...

Howeve,r I suppose in this situation, since the proof for anyone that wants the truth is easily attainable, I will leave it at that...

Do Not believe a word anyone has to say and do your own research and come to your own understanding about EVERYTHING at ALL times.

Much love to us ALL. Always and in all ways! Congratulations!

I continue to stand tall and strong in Love & Peace.

[gripreaper]

Posted by billyji (here)
I liked the Drake interview, Great to hear about the loophole in the law that allowed America to become sovereign again.

What "loophole" in the Law that "allowed" America to become sovereign again? I must have missed that part. Do you remember which of the three hours it was talked and at what point in the hour so I can go find it, or, if you don't mind, could you explain it?

[EnergyGardener]

I believe there are differences in the voices. Drake could be any male Texan, or even from a nearby state.

The discussion of Drake's identity, as with the butt paper, are distractions that miss the infinite ramifications of the message: What is happening by ET/ED & T (including by the Sacred Brass) is changing not only our lives, but the entire universe, and beyond...

I hesitate to post this, to feed the distraction, but I am hoping to see more elevated discussion of what we can do to foster the best results.

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

Posted by mountain_jim (here)
I have now listened to the first 2 hours. My partner listened for a few minutes and believes 'Drake' is really Jim Marrs.

Anyone else here that?

I think it's somebody from a similar area in the US, with similar vocal characteristics.

Respect to your partner but it's not jim marrs. that's ridiculous. his speech pattern is completely different. His tone is different. His pitch is different. His vocabulary is different. Almost everything is different except for his southern accent but in my opinion it is a different sounding southern accent.

[sygh]

Am listening to Drake right now. As far as Bill Ryan goes, this is his website, and we are here not just because of the work Bill has done but because we had our own questions that we couldn't necessarily answer for ourselves. I don't know about you but I can't drop everything and go to D.C., let alone Africa or, Scotland, Poland, Italy, etc... Bottom Line Bill Ryan made this forum possible. Respect that.

I haven't been around much recently, have been very busy with sustainable energy issues, looking into finite resources, and water rights as well.

S-L... If you have issues with Bill Ryan... go to the source. He is available right here. Maybe he's actually living his life, maybe he has a little happiness in it right now that he is savoring. Insulting this forum by insulting the owner of the forum is passive agressive on your part. You won't devide us, we will stand. It doesn't mean we are right or wrong. We are trying to understand and make a better world so...

Now, if you want to talk to me, I too have a personal venue on this site.

Fact is, no matter where one is on this planet, we are all affected. IMO, it is absolutely necessary we take a look at where we stand in this world and face the truth of it with an open mind and a willingness to fix the problems we see. That takes hope, love and work, hard work. It also means taking a stand and sticking to it, no matter how hard it is.

Do you appreciate the FACT that 90% of all predators in the sea are gone? Can you see that if you are following a leader and that leader is heading into an ambush it is your duty to give a heads up?

What is your real beef?

I am beginning to understand Drake's message...

[YvonneG]

Regarding Drake, if anyone wants to check out the site he mentions freedomreigns.us, this is not some mysterious person (whatever name he is using) He is well known by other people who work together in the "real freedom" movement for lack of a better word. I have known of several of these women like Teri and Deatra for a while. They know Drake well. I have done alot of research and I also swallowed the "kool-aid" even with that research. Drake has been coming on their show for quite some time. There is one at 6pm on Sunday and you can call in ask questions and talk to these people. Drake will probably be there.

One thing for sure we will know in short order if it is going to come down or not. I find Drake one of the most credible people with little if any belief required. One of the things that struck me as so absolutely true, paraphrasing what David said. Our military did not join the military to become hitmen for the bad guys. Most of them joined to serve their country etc. I have known of the Oathkeepers for many years now. You might want to check them out, and their videos. You will see that they have been speaking to this for quite a while, their Oath is to the Constitution and We the People. It has been said for a long time amongst these guys and others that they are the majority, so in this regard, Drake is surely not making anything up.

It doesn't hurt to be prepared with some food and toilet paper. I bought stuff a long time ago and also recently stocked up on enough canned food for 5 or 6 weeks..

[aranuk]

This stuff Drake was talking about is absolutely history in the making. He speaks seriously about replacing the government, which means the President and all the cabinet, a peaceful and quiet revolution, releasing prisoners from jails throughout the country who have not harmed either persons or property. He speaks about abolishing central banking, getting rid of fiat money, restoring mineral backed currency, FEMA camps to be used to house the perpetrators of injustice. He speaks also of introducing previously banned technology, free energy devices. Getting rid of the existing media, creating a new media, debt being paid to USA, China, Russia, UK. New judges appointed by the people not the Cabal. The world will change as a result of all this. Everything will be fair. Sounds to me like NESARA being enacted. Great news for the planet.

Stan

[Alie]

Posted by aranuk (here)
This stuff Drake was talking about is absolutely history in the making. He speaks seriously about replacing the government, which means the President and all the cabinet, a peaceful and quiet revolution, releasing prisoners from jails throughout the country who have not harmed either persons or property. He speaks about abolishing central banking, getting rid of fiat money, restoring mineral backed currency, FEMA camps to be used to house the perpetrators of injustice. He speaks also of introducing previously banned technology, free energy devices. Getting rid of the existing media, creating a new media, debt being paid to USA, China, Russia, UK. New judges appointed by the people not the Cabal. The world will change as a result of all this. Everything will be fair. Sounds to me like NESARA being enacted. Great news for the planet.

Stan

Stan
One of the things I noticed over the last few months on our forum is that Ben Fulford has been in question for his credibility. Well, Drake does mention him in a favorable light, although I forgot which hour it was. Do you have any thoughts about that?

[araucaria]

Posted by EnergyGardener (here)

The discussion of Drake's identity, as with the butt paper, are distractions that miss the infinite ramifications of the message: What is happening by ET/ED & T (including by the Sacred Brass) is changing not only our lives, but the entire universe, and beyond...

Well, EnergyGardener, if this is this the case, and I agree it is, why are you so serious, instead of laughing with the universe?

[sygh]

Posted by aranuk (here)
This stuff Drake was talking about is absolutely history in the making. He speaks seriously about replacing the government, which means the President and all the cabinet, a peaceful and quiet revolution, releasing prisoners from jails throughout the country who have not harmed either persons or property. He speaks about abolishing central banking, getting rid of fiat money, restoring mineral backed currency, FEMA camps to be used to house the perpetrators of injustice. He speaks also of introducing previously banned technology, free energy devices. Getting rid of the existing media, creating a new media, debt being paid to USA, China, Russia, UK. New judges appointed by the people not the Cabal. The world will change as a result of all this. Everything will be fair. Sounds to me like NESARA being enacted. Great news for the planet.

Stan

I would like to see that but... I'm doubtful as to whether it will come peacefully.