David Wilcock "DIVINE INTERVENTION: Section I -- Defeating Financial Tyranny"

[GlassSteagallfan]

Posted by Kimberley (here)
Posted a couple of hours ago

MASS ARRESTS: David Interviews Drake -- Transcript!

And several additional up dates from David...

http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/d...+Newsletter%29

Here is a pdf version of the transcript/interview only: Attachment 15297

One question - why let the cat out of the bag? It gives the cabal a chance to prepare.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Posted by aranuk (here)
I don't agree with violence either. The Bush family and Blair have murdered more than a million people which includes thousands of civilians, women children and innocent men. Do you think a slap on their wrists or a 10,000 dollar fine is appropriate ? What would you suggest we do as a punishment for these genocidal maniacs?
Stan

The most important issue is to free ourselves from dark side influence. The dark ones who have traded their light side for addictions to control, greed, fear and simply following orders may not be punished by sending them to whatever reality is next. It may be a very improved experience for them to be released from the prison they have created for themselves. We may all have had our dark side experiences and I am not looking to punish myself for any of mine.

If punishment is needed, then it may be enough to strip them of stolen wealth, put them in public housing and on social security income. Others already there may be glad to see them.

[seigiarchon]

Posted by rmauersr (here)

Posted by aranuk (here)
I don't agree with violence either. The Bush family and Blair have murdered more than a million people which includes thousands of civilians, women children and innocent men. Do you think a slap on their wrists or a 10,000 dollar fine is appropriate ? What would you suggest we do as a punishment for these genocidal maniacs?
Stan

The most important issue is to free ourselves from dark side influence. The dark ones who have traded their light side for addictions to control, greed, fear and simply following orders may not be punished by sending them to whatever reality is next. It may be a very improved experience for them to be released from the prison they have created for themselves. We may all have had our dark side experiences and I am not looking to punish myself for any of mine.

If punishment is needed, then it may be enough to strip them of stolen wealth, put them in public housing and on social security income. Others already there may be glad to see them.

Can I ask everybody ..

What's the difference between Bush and Blair murdering millions and millions of innocents and our animal farm factories murdering millions and millions of innocents?

What's the difference between the governments and top billionaires' addictions to control, greed and fear and the boss of a local business' (say a car rental company or a local restaurant) addictions to control, greed and fear?

[aranuk]

Posted by foreverfan (here)
PLEASE...You guys can PM each other instead of discussion on the forum. Thanks.

He insulted you as well. I was defending you too in case you have forgotten.
The man who insulted you has thanked you. Where do stand? I stand for justice.

Stan

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Posted by seigiarchon (here)
Can I ask everybody ..

What's the difference between Bush and Blair murdering millions and millions of innocents and our animal farm factories murdering millions and millions of innocents?

What's the difference between the governments and top billionaires' addictions to control, greed and fear and the boss of a local business' (say a car rental company or a local restaurant) addictions to control, greed and fear?

In my humble opinion, some of these characters are easy to walk away from, others are more difficult. That is the difference. Freedom to consciously choose one's experience.

[Tommy]

Posted by rmauersr (here)

Posted by aranuk (here)
I don't agree with violence either. The Bush family and Blair have murdered more than a million people which includes thousands of civilians, women children and innocent men. Do you think a slap on their wrists or a 10,000 dollar fine is appropriate ? What would you suggest we do as a punishment for these genocidal maniacs?
Stan

The most important issue is to free ourselves from dark side influence. The dark ones who have traded their light side for addictions to control, greed, fear and simply following orders may not be punished by sending them to whatever reality is next. It may be a very improved experience for them to be released from the prison they have created for themselves. We may all have had our dark side experiences and I am not looking to punish myself for any of mine.

If punishment is needed, then it may be enough to strip them of stolen wealth, put them in public housing and on social security income. Others already there may be glad to see them.

Thanks rmauersr, I think you are hitting the nail on the head here!

Frankly I find "Drake" to be contradicting the principles of non-violence which I know many of us in these communities\organisations share.

I do appreciate the information, but I certainly have not elected these people to be judge, jury and executioner. Frankly I would support arresting these (drakes and co's) people if they killed off people without due process.. And yes, I am aware we need a new process. Look at what happened to Egypt, did it work out well for them?

I feel we need to use our brains and common sense here, because supporting this man means supporting your metaphorical enemy.

I don't know about you, but the "enemy of my enemy" is not my friend in this case.

Do not give your own individual power away, to anyone.. That is my motto

[aranuk]

Posted by rmauersr (here)

Posted by aranuk (here)
I don't agree with violence either. The Bush family and Blair have murdered more than a million people which includes thousands of civilians, women children and innocent men. Do you think a slap on their wrists or a 10,000 dollar fine is appropriate ? What would you suggest we do as a punishment for these genocidal maniacs?
Stan

The most important issue is to free ourselves from dark side influence. The dark ones who have traded their light side for addictions to control, greed, fear and simply following orders may not be punished by sending them to whatever reality is next. It may be a very improved experience for them to be released from the prison they have created for themselves. We may all have had our dark side experiences and I am not looking to punish myself for any of mine.

If punishment is needed, then it may be enough to strip them of stolen wealth, put them in public housing and on social security income. Others already there may be glad to see them.

I am laughing. There are millions of people stripped of wealth, live in public housing and live on social security who have never committed any crimes at all. Why should genocidal maniacs deserve the same conditions that these people have? Makes no sense to me.

Stan

[aranuk]

Let's get this straight here. Drake isn't the criminal. He may have said that he would like to cut some people into small pieces before executing them. That is an emotional rant. I am sure I could persuade him to make them suffer as long as they live instead of killing them quickly. I would also think twice of incarcerating them in a high security jail where they would be buggered by the brutal inmates. They would most probably enjoy that! I could think of a great way to deal with them if I had time to think about it. I certainly would NOT execute them, that would be too easy for them.

Stan

[modwiz]

I've used the metaphor before and will again. You pull a tick off of a dog. What do you do with it? Remove a leech from your leg. What now? Dog has fleas. Remedy?

Confusing parasites with people because they resemble them is practicing poor species hygiene IMO. These critters are the equivalent of rabid dogs. What do we do with them? This malevolent presence that has found a way to possess bodies does not fool me. This is body snatcher stuff. Extreme prejudice will be called for in some cases. Not as retribution, but as hygiene.

[Endity]

I am not sure what I can say about drake that would not be insulting to people that believe his message. The way people speak can really tell what kind of person they are. Now this is not an exact science, nor am I trying to say its black and white like that. My first impression from listening to him was that he was sort of lost on the message. To me in my opinion a man that has many facts and many facets of what is going on would sound much more clear in his words and comments. I felt that really discredited everything for me. I am going to re listen to it again tommorow and see what my second opinion feels on this.

I want to make sure everyone understand I do not blindly believe what I feel is correct. Just my opinion.

[Avocadess]

I personally feel great hope from these plans that Drake reveals. If anyone wants a website where they can read the transcript of the interview in larger print but is not able to read a pdf, I have the interview posted on my website here: http://avocadess.com/door2 -- which I copied from David Wilcock's site, www.divinecosmos.com (and made the print larger and purple).

Personally I feel that it is VERY important that they let the cat out of the bag somewhat with the American people -- because if we had not heard of this, and after listening to Alex Jones, et al. it could be easily misunderstood to be martial law coming down if a person happened to work or live near where these arrests are being made, especially since these criminals are fighting their arrest to the bitter end. It gives us a chance to understand what is going on and a reason to keep a cool head...!

To me, I keep finding myself feeling and thinking: OH, THE BEAUTY OF IT. THE BEAUTY OF IT...!!!

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by aranuk (here)
Let's get this straight here. Drake isn't the criminal. He may have said that he would like to cut some people into small pieces before executing them. That is an emotional rant. I am sure I could persuade him to make them suffer as long as they live instead of killing them quickly. I would also think twice of incarcerating them in a high security jail where they would be buggered by the brutal inmates. They would most probably enjoy that! I could think of a great way to deal with them if I had time to think about it. I certainly would NOT execute them, that would be too easy for them.

Stan

When it comes to unleashing pent-up feelings about some of the most depraved serial killers in the history of the world, as well as all of the other damage they have done short of death, and what these criminals deserve... well, I suspect many of us have an emotional, knee-jerk reaction. I can't even imagine the increased magnitude if I personally lost a family member or close loved one to these monsters.

But, let's all be wise enough to recognize that people with good hearts are still very human. We're not a bunch of Buddhas. We'll have to work through these feelings, examine them, work through the stages (we never thought we'd get a chance to even experience these stages.)

So, this reminds me of the story of the two Buddhist monks by the stream. One of them sees a scorpion fall into the water, reaches down and scoops the scorpion up, to save it.

The scorpion stings the monk, who then involuntarily flinches and drops the scorpion back into the water.

The monk reaches back down into the water and scoops up the scorpion again, and again gets stung, and again drops the scorpion into the water.

This happens three times. The accompanying monk is flabbergasted, and finally asks his brother monk why he keeps repeating this. The monk replies, "The scorpion is acting in its nature, and so am I."

OK, so now we know how a Buddha might handle psychopathic serial killers. Like I said, we ain't a bunch of Buddhas. On the other hand, we are spiritually evolved enough to not harm them in any way, incarcerate the criminals for life - in humane prison life conditions that we have cried out that every prisoner deserves. For me personally, I would add that regardless of human curiosity of the masses, I would sequester these psychopaths away from humanity for the duration of their lives. No prison interviews, no movie of the week - just locked away from any possibility of causing any more damage to anyone.

Be sure that you recognize that Drake quite probably showed a visceral knee-jerk reaction, not his higher self speaking. Also realize that his reaction wasn't scripted - and wouldn't be the reaction that the group represents.

Dennis

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by rmauersr (here)
If David Wilcock is being played with, that may indicate that much of what David says is true. The "powers that be" have no need to discredit a lie.

The bastards in power don't play these games strictly along the lines of what's true or not.

The lies are so many layers deep at times it's hard to even know what's true.

Rather the bastards in power divide, confuse, mislead, indoctrinate, and bury any bits of truth that might leak out in a cacophony of conflicting claims.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by YvonneG (here)
All that be said, we are not going to know until it happens...not for sure. But given James Martinez' announcement on 1/1/12, and Ben's newsletters, and all the bank ceos resigning and all the many other signs here, it is absolutely not far-fetched to believe Drake.

The Bank CEO (and similar) resignations can be better explained, in my view, as activity that is typical in a major (once in 80 years, say) financial/economic/monetary crisis. This crisis involves

• the changing of the world's reserve currency from the US Petro-Dollar to some other global construct or arrangement,
• the selling into debt servitude of the United States and Europe,
• the collapse (or transition into a quite different form) of the Anglo-American empire of the last two or three centuries,
• the collapse or reconstruction of some major financial institutions, and
• the prosecution of some (not all, just the one's that drew a short straw) of those involved in the escalating corruption of the last few decades.

In such times, many in high positions will sniff out the coming storm, and decide to duck out with what they have so far. More will be "pushed" out, if they aren't trusted by the most powerful to remain loyal through the transition.

I agree with (my reading of) Bill Ryan, in doubting that major arrests of the "black hats", backed by U.S. Federal Marshalls and many of the U.S. Military, are planned or will happen.

I have seen nothing to the contrary that isn't either the unverifiable word of a few (Fulford, Drake, Wilcock, etc) or the post hoc re-interpretation of some events that have much more pedestrian explanations (such as the substantial increase in resignations of people in financial or political power.)

I doubt however that this "massive arrest" story is just intended to discredit David Wilcock. That will be a minor side affect, in my expectation, of delivering a large dose of disinformation to a self-selecting segment of the population that is starting to "wake up."

Of course, not all the "information" we've been served, as part of this story, is false. What better way to both (1) discredit what bits of truth that might leak out in other ways than to associate them with a story most will find outlandish, and (2) gain attention and credibility from "alternative media" viewers such as ourselves, than to mix a few bits of truth, or near truth, in with the half lies and pure bunkum.

[Hervé]

Then, there is this facet of the rolling dice (coin is too simplistic at this stage) remembering that the Rockefeller empire was built upon the miracles of fake snake (but genuine crude) oil:

PLAY ON PEOPLE'S NEED TO BELIEVE TO CREATE A CULTLIKE FOLLOWING

by Robert Greene

Law 27 -- Play on People's Need to Believe to Create a Cultlike Following
Judgment: People have an overwhelming desire to believe in something. Become the focal point of such desire by offering them a cause, a new faith to follow. Keep your words vague but full of promise; emphasize enthusiasm over rationality and clear thinking. Give your new disciples rituals to perform, ask them to make sacrifices on your behalf. In the absence of organized religion and grand causes, your new belief system will bring you untold power.

In searching, as you must, for the methods that will gain you the most power for the least effort, you will find the creation of a cultlike following one of the most effective. Having a large following opens up all sorts of possibilities for deception; not only will your followers worship you, they will defend you from your enemies and will voluntarily take on the work of enticing others to join your fledgling cult. This kind of power will lift you to another realm: You will no longer have to struggle or use subterfuge to enforce your will. You are adored and can do no wrong.

You might think it a gargantuan task to create such a following, but in fact it is fairly simple. As humans, we have a desperate need to believe in something, anything. This makes us eminently gullible: We simply cannot endure long periods of doubt, or of the emptiness that comes from a lack of something to believe in. Dangle in front of us some new cause, elixir, get-rich-quick scheme, or the latest technological trend or art movement and we leap from the water as one to take the bait. Look at history: The chronicles of the new trends and cults that have made a mass following for themselves could fill a library. After a few centuries, a few decades, a few years, a few months, they generally look ridiculous, but at the time they seem so attractive, so transcendental, so divine.

Always in a rush to believe in something, we will manufacture saints and faiths out of nothing. Do not let this gullibility go to waste: Make yourself the object of worship. Make people form a cult around you.

The great European charlatans of the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries mastered the art of cultmaking. They lived, as we do now, in a time of transformation: Organized religion was on the wane, science on the rise. People were desperate to rally around a new cause or faith. The charlatans had begun by peddling health elixirs and alchemic shortcuts to wealth. Moving quickly from town to town, they originally focused on small groups -- until, by accident, they stumbled on a truth of human nature: The larger the group they gathered around themselves, the easier it was to deceive.

The charlatan would station himself on a high wooden platform (hence the term "mountebank") and crowds would swarm around him. In a group setting, people were more emotional, less able to reason. Had the charlatan spoken to them individually, they might have found him ridiculous, but lost in a crowd they got caught up in a communal mood of rapt attention. It became impossible for them to find the distance to be skeptical. Any deficiencies in the charlatan's ideas were hidden by the zeal of the mass. Passion and enthusiasm swept through the crowd like a contagion, and they reacted violently to anyone who dared to spread a seed of doubt. Both consciously studying this dynamic over decades of experiment and spontaneously adapting to these situations as they happened, the charlatans perfected the science of attracting and holding a crowd, molding the crowd into followers and the followers into a cult

The gimmicks of the charlatans may seem quaint today, but there are thousands of charlatans among us still, using the same tried-and-true methods their predecessors refined centuries ago, only changing the names of their elixirs and modernizing the look of their cults. We find these latter-day charlatans in all arenas of life -- business, fashion, politics, art. Many of them, perhaps, are following in the charlatan tradition without having any knowledge of its history, but you can be more systematic and deliberate. Simply follow the five steps of cultmaking that our charlatan ancestors perfected over the years.

Step 1: Keep it Vague; Keep it Simple. To create a cult you must first attract attention. This you should do not through actions, which are too clear and readable, but through words, which are hazy and deceptive. Your initial speeches, conversations, and interviews must include two elements: on the one hand the promise of something great and transformative, and on the other a total vagueness. This combination will stimulate all kinds of hazy dreams in your listeners, who will make their own connections and see what they want to see.

To make your vagueness attractive, use words of great resonance but cloudy meaning, words full of heat and enthusiasm. Fancy titles for simple things are helpful, as are the use of numbers and the creation of new words for vague concepts. All of these create the impression of specialized knowledge, giving you a veneer of profundity. By the same token, try to make the subject of your cult new and fresh, so that few will understand it. Done right, the combination of vague promises, cloudy but alluring concepts, and fiery enthusiasm will stir people's souls and a group will form around you.

Talk too vaguely and you have no credibility. But it is more dangerous to be specific. If you explain in detail the benefits people will gain by following your cult, you will be expected to satisfy them.

As a corollary to its vagueness your appeal should also be simple. Most people's problems have complex causes: deep-rooted neurosis, interconnected social factors, roots that go way back in time and are exceedingly hard to unravel. Few, however, have the patience to deal with this; most people want to hear that a simple solution will cure their problems. The ability to offer this kind of solution will give you great power and build you a following. Instead of the complicated explanations of real life, return to the primitive solutions of our ancestors, to good old country remedies, to mysterious panaceas.

Full article here:
http://www.american-buddha.com/greene.cult.htm

[sdv]

Thanks Amzer Zo. Yes, the article that you posted is a good reflection of what is happening. The weirdest thing is that when given evidence that contradeicts what the 'saviour' says, people still blindly believe. Waking up means using your common sense and asking questions!

[YvonneG]

Posted by sdv (here)
Thanks Amzer Zo. Yes, the article that you posted is a good reflection of what is happening. The weirdest thing is that when given evidence that contradeicts what the 'saviour' says, people still blindly believe. Waking up means using your common sense and asking questions!

If I were to look at this Drake/Wilcock interview alone I would say that whatever else anyone opinions are (and that is what we have is opinions, this might be a good reality check for all of us, because we don't KNOW until it happens) people are being informed about what is going on. I have no idea why the other side would want that to happen, to have such a viral situation of sending this out or shouting it out with our mouse as someone said would be in any way caused by the bad guys. Just looking at it logically.

On the other hand, I have deligently listened to all the freedomreigns calls with Drake and Teri (who is known to me and who would never fall for something she was not sure of). I have other validations I feel such a friend who has friends in the alphabet agencies and who for months have been confirming to him that the imminent arrests are close. And a lot of other things that validate Ben.

There is no logic that someone would go through pains to discredit David, including doing ongoing radio shows on freedomreigns just to keep up the farce along with others! One thing I feel very sure of this was not done to discredit David. Perhaps this can be put to rest :-)

Now lets ask, why would Drake being doing this? We are not asked to do anything except to prepare and to share with others to prepare. Nothing to sign, nothing to put ourselves in jeopardy.

And why would someone like Deatra and Teri and others be involved with him? These are people who have been working and fighting for freedom in real life and not just sharing on the internet (which is good too of course). These are people who have given their whole lives to this. Why would they join with Drake if they didn't know the man enough to know this is for real. Esp. when people like Teri who have lived so much and be lied to. I am sure that she vetted out Drake. I am also sure that the paperwork that was filed was either seen by her or she helped prepare. These are facts. This is what I am interested in sharing.

be well everyone
yvonne

[EnergyGardener]

Many of these curious arguments:

1. Drake is a major deception.
2. Drake's suggestion of retribution was insensitive.
3. We must be more elevated and not react with intent to harm, kill, incarcerate or do "too" much harm to the bad guys.

These arguments reflect the perception by some based upon our current, or even, past mindset. Keep in mind this good problem we see finally developing, is only because of "Divine Intervention," which posts have expressed doubt about that too. One cannot accept these developments without realizing that we are receiving and will continue to receive more "Divine" help.

Let me suggest that while humans may have the opportunity to decide the fate of these very nasty beings (please remember they are unnecessarily still chemtrailing, charging us taxes, forcing us to buy their fuels, electrical energies, attend absurd educations systems, drug ourselves to survive, watch programmed entertainment and subsist on contaminated food, water and air), we will likely receive "Divine" perspective with this decision too. Isn't there still so much to learn?

This is not my greatest concern, as I wrote in an earlier post: I am much more concerned about the masses reaction and destruction to our world upon learning of these creatures; I do not believe they will register as kind of concerns for these "parasites" as some of you.

My current personal opinion is that they are removed to another 3-D planet where they can all deal with each other only; we must rid 5-D Earth and all other evolved realms of these beings. I believe this is inevitable much more about universal law, than humanity's decision, though I would agree with those that would have them leave here alive. If not, I am confident that their souls will be carefully escorted there in the traditional way—perhaps many of them already have.

Our compassion should be that they free themselves from their self-imposed circumstances through karmic evolution and whatever Divine means are available—the latter is what we ourselves are so fortunate to be receiving here and now. I am extremely thankful for that.

[Eram]

Posted by sdv (here)
Thanks Amzer Zo. Yes, the article that you posted is a good reflection of what is happening. The weirdest thing is that when given evidence that contradeicts what the 'saviour' says, people still blindly believe. Waking up means using your common sense and asking questions!

Here's a message I sent to the ICJ in The Hague:

Dear reader,

I want to find out if it is true that recently there has been send a PROCESS OF NOTIFICATION for the original 13 colonies of the USA to become legaly : A SOVEREIGN NATION STATE.
Is there any way for an amateur like me to find out if these statements have been send to the ICJ?

Thanks in advance,

XXXXXXXXXX

This is their answer so far:



Very curious to learn what they have to say to this, because to me it would prove a thing or two if the notifications had really been send to the ICJ.

[YvonneG]

Posted by Wakytweaky (here)

Posted by sdv (here)
Thanks Amzer Zo. Yes, the article that you posted is a good reflection of what is happening. The weirdest thing is that when given evidence that contradeicts what the 'saviour' says, people still blindly believe. Waking up means using your common sense and asking questions!

Here's a message I sent to the ICJ in The Hague:

Dear reader,

I want to find out if it is true that recently there has been send a PROCESS OF NOTIFICATION for the original 13 colonies of the USA to become legaly : A SOVEREIGN NATION STATE.
Is there any way for an amateur like me to find out if these statements have been send to the ICJ?

Thanks in advance,

XXXXXXXXXX

This is their answer so far:



Very curious to learn what they have to say to this, because to me it would prove a thing or two if the notifications had really been send to the ICJ.

I am glad you did this for the sakes of those who don't have a "reality" on the other people involved with this. I know who Teri on the freedomreigns show with DRake is. I also know she does not BS. Of course, the rest of you don't know who she is. If you listen to
some of the earlier calls you can get a feeling for who these people are and where they are coming from. However, having a confirmation
from the Hague will put a lot of this to rest. Of course, they have the receipt themselves, perhaps someone would like to ask Drake on the next show on Sunday?

thanks for doing that!