Animal Slaughter: A Time For Change

[161803398]

Unity would be great; as long as it isn't obtained through faith in a "religion"

Gosh, I hope it isn't obtained through any one of a thousand really negative things I could come up with if I sat here the entire day trying to twist my mind into a pretzel. But maybe you could do it. Go for it!

[161803398]

Do you wear leather belts or shoes? How about a purse or hand bag with make up or lip gloss?

I am beyond words on this one.

[jorr lundstrom]

Posted by 161803398 (here)
https://youtube.com/watch?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=53K1NspYwsA

Thank you for this video. Ive seen earthlings too.


All is well


Jorr 2.0

[13th Warrior]

I ask these seemingly disjointed questions to see how much anybody has thought about these items they may use in their daily lives and where they actually come from.

I was hoping that someone could answer in a fashion that would demonstrate knowledge and understanding emanating from a higher vibration...

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http://www.documentarywire.com/earthlings

watching it right now...

I ask these seemingly disjointed questions to see how much anybody has thought about these items they may use in their daily lives and where they actually come from.

I was hoping that someone could answer in a fashion that would demonstrate knowledge and understanding emanating from a higher vibration...

It's usually a good bet to not buy anything that comes in a box or a plastic wrapper, or that industrial plastic which i can never get open

[percival tyro]

Best wishes Nerge

[Peace of Mind]

Flesh eating appears to be the result of adaptation toward scarcity after several cataclysmic events. All of our history tells this. So, logically thinking…the saviors turn savage and scavengers due to the mass extinctions of life (plants and animals). And for the same reason everything was used nothing wasted.... Skin to clothes, bones to utensils...etc. To this day people is still digging through the mounds of settled dust/dirt/the past… uncovering his-story. There are areas of the world (land/sea)that are now barren but unearthed evidence says these ruins used to be rich in foliage and life… bountiful. In many of the sophisticated hieroglyphs…you’ll see a union with animals even if they appear to emulate them…baskets of what appears to be fruits and grains can be seen as offerings or just lying about…

Destruction/ war is seen slaying a beast/animal a civilization in chaos…consumption of any animal is seen as satanic, a blood ritual….not for physical sustainability…(unless you’re a vamp or cave dweller(sci-fy jk/))

I was shown a documentary on a certain monkey breed; it was produced by National Geographic or Discovery Animal Planet…one of them. The show featured certain monkeys turning into flesh eaters and cannibals because of the Human impact on their environment. Interesting, because this brings further light to what we animals/humans/mammals/blah blah blah....do to stay alive…as time past vegetation most likely became scarce, determination and evolution took place, we adapted.

Now, from a spiritual stand point this adaptation is an unnecessary barrier for positive spiritual growth, it’s a contradiction, using the mouth to exhale love and peace while inhaling a chicken wing burger will be conflicting… as you are what you consume…

Everything is energy, it can’t be created nor destroyed…only molded. Deciding to build your body out of death/pain/suffering/sorrow/resent, etc...Eventually, you’ll recognize more of this in your life. Perhaps this all relates to the fallen angels theory/scripture, hmmm...as you can see we have the power to impact the planet in so many ways … regrettably; the results can be blinding, but sensibly irrefutable.

I don’t know anyone or heard of anyone dieing because they stopped eating meat. Still, I sympathize for some, and encourage everyone to experience the differences. It wasn’t easy for me to stop eating flesh; I just simply challenged myself and did it carefully. Our free will is part of our learning process. Trust your body not the FDA, get in tuned with the intricacies of your body, learn it, learn how it works, recognize its predetermined limits and subtly make advancements, give thanks to every cell…show your appreciation and the body will take care of your soul/mission without the need of a physician

When we’re ready to take on a task…we will know. I don’t know anyone that hasn’t eaten meat before…. It’s my reason for learning to be more tolerable on the issue…. though, it should be obvious the adamant responses can only be from having experience on both sides of the fence.

Imho, this discussion is redundant but healthy, if nothing benificial comes from this thread it probably will have proven to be a diversion. This subject will never be properly understood until ventured thoroughly. Those of us that were ready and able to make that change are just motivated; we want life comfortable for all...

we can see paradise on the horizon, it can be seen with gleam… true it’s a journey, so respite may be required to remedy the wear and tear it takes to get there…we move at our own pace. As long as we continue walking in each others shoes…we’ll all get there together.

Peace

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Imho, this discussion is redundant but healthy, if nothing benificial comes from this thread it probably will have proven to be a diversion

Well, this thread started with me being an omnivore. Over three days I have been thinking about it non stop.
It has changed me. In an area that I did not want to see. Thank you all for that
This morning a plate of breakfast was handed to me. Egg toast and bacon. I left the bacon alone.
Very good post pece
No diversion here

[wynderer]

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Posted by wynderer (here)
i started a thread on veganism at Nexus -- very discouraging to me to learn how, even in 'alternative' communities, there is so little compassion for other beings -- most folks were defending their right to eat dead animals -- i told them that i'd spoken to their hearts . & they answered w/their bellies [probably fat bellies if they are from the USA]

this IS a lawful universe -- & what goes around does come around eventually -- Humans may be at the top of the food chain on this tiny little planet, but you are far from being at the top in your galaxy, let alone your universe

[quote from Target, i think]
what does your definition of a "being" include (or more importantly, EXCLUDE)?

your response has a tone that I have long ago identified with typically emotion based response (you chose to use an insult in it for example "fat bellies", this is indicative of bad logic)

Does the bacteria in our digestive track count on your list or is that beneath your definition?

could it not be that we are all (even the bacteria) working together in a synergistic harmony? what is ying without yang? who are "you"(me, anyone...) to decide what change is good and what change is bad?

If you choose to only "kill" plants to sustain yourself I have no problem with that, the logical inconsistencies & emotion based responses I do have a problem with.


here's a general answer to your questions: i am 'gifted' according to Native American Shamans i have crossed paths w/in my life -- it's not much fun being an empath/sensitive/sometime clairvoyant on this planet -- one of my worst experiences was being above planet Earth & hearing the scream of pain & suffering coming from the millions of Animals -- from Humans, too [you are also Animals] , but way more from your other Animal brothers & sisters -- your 'food animals' -- constantly arising from this planet -- it's been going on for millennia, this scream [a real beacon to darkside ETs, i might add]

i try to take as little part in this cruelty as i am able to while stuck here in a 3D body on this dark & demented loony bin of a planet -- all this defense of eating dead Animals -- you are a rather cruel & violent species

[blufire]

I hate with a passion animal factory farming and slaughter and I equally hate with a passion the slaughter of our forests and natural resources.

The pictures are of coal strip mining and logging. Entire mountains and 100+year old trees are removed to mine the coal out of the Appalachian mountains. . . 24 hours a day and 7 days a week. Coal is then transported on trucks and trains to power plants and manufacturing factories.

Think carefully your day to day life and the immense amount of electricity you use or use vicariously. Without coal you would have no electricity. Without coal powering massive electrical plants there would be no electricity to power manufacturing plants on a global scale. That means no STUFF. Look up at the power lines that run through you towns and neighbor hoods . . . .they are brought to you by coal mining and the men who work these mines for you.

So if it is logical that we should all become vegan or vegetarian because of the barbaric slaughter of animals then we should all . . . .at a minimum. . . refuse to use electricity or anything produced by electricity.

The miners who work in these miners work in highly dangerous conditions. They spend 10 to 12 hours a day underground in shafts that are generally no higher than 48 inches, which means they walk stooped over of more often crawl. On average 85% of the men who work these mines end up with horrible disabilities from injuries or “Black Lung”.

The picture of the x-ray of miner’s lungs is that of a 46 year old man. He will die a very slow agonizing death within 5 to 10 years.

The picture of the logs is an example of the trees that are 100 to 150 years old . . . .I see a minium of 20 trucks a day hauling logs from the mountains that are destroyed. These trees are used to build your homes and furniture and reams of paper we use,


Before you choose to debate me on coal mining and logging or even gas
drilling do your homework and research because I grew up with this and live it now on a daily basis

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I'm with you bluefire.
There is really no reason for any sort of debate on this subject.
The only thing we can really talk about in this case are possible solutions to steer the direction of our energy consumption and production in a completely different direction. I'd start a new thread...

[161803398]

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