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Posted by NancyV (here)
I do not live my life feeling like I'm a slave or I'm imprisoned. Of course someone can hurt or kill my body while it's my vehicle here in 3D, but "I" am free. In fact everyone is free. Perhaps we humans need to get to the point of feeling so enslaved that we are forced to finally understand that actual freedom is only within. The body/vehicle can be manipulated by others, but the driver of the vehicle is free. They can't take away that freedom. Only we can do it to ourselves... and we love to fool ourselves by thinking we are slaves. It must be a fun game and it's so nice not to have to be responsible, to have someone else to blame... but I'm not buying it.

I will not be a follower of anyone's plans to replace one system with another that will most likely end up the same as the previous one. Because human nature is what it is and history shows that after an overthrow of a government you might have relative peace for a while, but it always eventually becomes repressive. Ultimately it ends up as bad or worse than the previous system. It will also need to be a violent overthrow. Peaceful overthrows are somehow not very prevalent in human history.

Those who are hoping for a raise in the vibrational frequency of all humans here in 3D... you may have a very long wait. That state already exists on other dimensions. Why bring the higher vibrational frequency down to this slow vibrational frequency dimension? Each dimension is different. If you want a higher frequency where your body is more free because a light body is your vehicle.... go to a higher dimension. But YOU are still free here and in all other dimensions. No one can enslave you but your own mind, your own belief in enslavement. Even beings in what we call "heaven", who are existing in a higher dimension can be enslaved by their belief that "heaven" is the ultimate dwelling place and there is no reason for them to leave, nor would they seek to leave because it would seem impossible. Hogwash. I've seen as many people/souls trapped in "heaven" as trapped here on earth...all by their limiting beliefs.

The fact is we are one with the Source. We are all powerful, we are free. There is only one, etc. etc. We're just here playing a game and by all means, if the game you choose is to pretend you're a slave to the system and you must revolt, that's great and I hope you enjoy it! I will enjoy watching but I'm not helping in a revolution to free myself from slavery. I am already free. If someone brings the battle to us, we (my husband and I) will fight and enjoy it. If our body is killed... so what. It's just a car and this life is just a ride... and in my case it's an older model car so I'm about ready to turn it in for a newer, lighter body!

Hello, Friends!

I will not normally get involved in these types of threads, but I'm a big fan of Nancy's, so today when I was perusing the subjects that appear to dominate folk's attention lately, and saw her comments here, I was reminded of why she rings the bell-- she rocks, she's been there, and has come back to walk the walk, and not just talk the talk, so I'm just bumping her comments here, which are straight to the point, and crystal clear.

[Carmody]

Posted by another bob (here)

Posted by NancyV (here)
I do not live my life feeling like I'm a slave or I'm imprisoned. Of course someone can hurt or kill my body while it's my vehicle here in 3D, but "I" am free. In fact everyone is free. Perhaps we humans need to get to the point of feeling so enslaved that we are forced to finally understand that actual freedom is only within. The body/vehicle can be manipulated by others, but the driver of the vehicle is free. They can't take away that freedom. Only we can do it to ourselves... and we love to fool ourselves by thinking we are slaves. It must be a fun game and it's so nice not to have to be responsible, to have someone else to blame... but I'm not buying it.

I will not be a follower of anyone's plans to replace one system with another that will most likely end up the same as the previous one. Because human nature is what it is and history shows that after an overthrow of a government you might have relative peace for a while, but it always eventually becomes repressive. Ultimately it ends up as bad or worse than the previous system. It will also need to be a violent overthrow. Peaceful overthrows are somehow not very prevalent in human history.

Those who are hoping for a raise in the vibrational frequency of all humans here in 3D... you may have a very long wait. That state already exists on other dimensions. Why bring the higher vibrational frequency down to this slow vibrational frequency dimension? Each dimension is different. If you want a higher frequency where your body is more free because a light body is your vehicle.... go to a higher dimension. But YOU are still free here and in all other dimensions. No one can enslave you but your own mind, your own belief in enslavement. Even beings in what we call "heaven", who are existing in a higher dimension can be enslaved by their belief that "heaven" is the ultimate dwelling place and there is no reason for them to leave, nor would they seek to leave because it would seem impossible. Hogwash. I've seen as many people/souls trapped in "heaven" as trapped here on earth...all by their limiting beliefs.

The fact is we are one with the Source. We are all powerful, we are free. There is only one, etc. etc. We're just here playing a game and by all means, if the game you choose is to pretend you're a slave to the system and you must revolt, that's great and I hope you enjoy it! I will enjoy watching but I'm not helping in a revolution to free myself from slavery. I am already free. If someone brings the battle to us, we (my husband and I) will fight and enjoy it. If our body is killed... so what. It's just a car and this life is just a ride... and in my case it's an older model car so I'm about ready to turn it in for a newer, lighter body!

Hello, Friends!

I will not normally get involved in these types of threads, but I'm a big fan of Nancy's, so today when I was perusing the subjects that appear to dominate folk's attention lately, and saw her comments here, I was reminded of why she rings the bell-- she rocks, she's been there, and has come back to walk the walk, and not just talk the talk, so I'm just bumping her comments here, which are straight to the point, and crystal clear.

Yes, It's an OOO thing. Order Of operations.

First a general awareness. (ieee..big problems, I'm scared!)

Then, the emotions. (I'm scared! The bastards!)

Then the calming of emotions. (WTF am I freaking out about? or for?)

Rumination. (Gotta think..gotta think, dammit! What the hell does 'I' mean, anyway?)

Then...Finally,...emergent clarity. (ah..this one 'gets it' now)

(There is a constant flow of overlap in these aspects)

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by NancyV (here)
If someone brings the battle to us, we (my husband and I) will fight ...

Hi Nancy,

This is one of the points I'm trying to make. Define "us." Just you? (and husband) If you have children, grandchildren, elderly members of the family that can't effectively fight, do you fight for them? Other family members - do you fight with them? If you see the battle brought to your loved ones, do you stand silently, let them fight their own battle, knowing it's just a ride? Neighbors? Community members... why not humanity? Where's the line?

They DID bring the battle to us, depending on how you define "us."

Dennis
p.s. I'm not really talking about Drake here, but the bigger picture.

{edit} and on third thought... it appears as if I am passing a note at the end of a bayonet. Unintended. The question is not quite rhetorical, but also not aimed solely at Nancy. A question about where each of us see our 'sphere' - not only of current influence, but also of potential influence. Could we, should we, try to positively influence humanity or not? Could we, should we try to help defend humanity from predators or not?

[9eagle9]

I didn't say you were unreasonable I said manipulating my agreement isn't going to help you get your way , and neither will ordering me. I can't change your mind, you can change your mind.

It is unworkable, its demonstrated over and over and again. That's how systems work. Your sound system, the political system, your physical systems--they all do the same thing over and over again. Your going into just another system.

go to a forum, talk a lot etcetera etcetera etcetera. What changed.

Nothing.

Posted by xbusymom (here)

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Yes please come back and ask again when you think you can lever and emotionally manipulate my agreement.

Don't do it before you're certain.

Please understand you may not 'get your way'.

Stamping your foot and ordering me to do my chores won't help either.

Posted by xbusymom (here)

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
XBusyMom: Those are predictably enough the words a co-dependent uses when one doesn't agree with their world view. The spill over erupts here, "Someone isn't agreeing with me!!"

I'm not helping these people, I've made that pretty clear. Didn't I make that absolutely clear?

To be VERY VERY clear....I'm not helping.

Got it?

Are we very clear and I shouldn't expect another order to 'go help'.

What sort of fantasy land are you in that I can express a page long criticism based on my knowledge, not what was spoon fed to me, and you think that I'm reasonably just going to toddle off and help them because you ordered me to?

Lol.

Don't ask for my help. If I needed anymore evidence for the point I conveyed, yours is it.



WHY would Drake and Wilcocks need my tantrumy old help?

Just whore out to any old person that comes along regardless if there is no agreement to their strategy at all.

That about sums it up. That demonstrates plenty on it's own.

Ummm.. nevermind... I can see you are still in the midst of your meltdown.

oh, so you think I should change my mind and do what you tell me to because the unreasonable person is ME??????? (who is the one continuing to rant and rave about 'everybody needs to abandon this stuff' just because YOU think it is unworkable?)

I did not ORDER you to DO anything... you posed a question as to why Drake (and company) was not inviting others to participate in The Plan - and I provided the counter-point that he [they] HAD...

[9eagle9]

Nancy,

Heaven doesn't want you and hell is afraid you'll take over.

(grin)

Posted by NancyV (here)

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
I have all the observation I need, it had nothing to do with talk, it was KNOWING what I was seeing. David is easily manipulated. Put him together with a more dominant personality like Drakes and what would you get? David will become Drake's bitch.

If I want to get out of prison, I seek those who have already escaped it. Did they talk their way out?

Talk is cheap. When these things we talk about are expressed through us, when you are making water out of whine, then I have some evidence. Quit telling me and show me something.

Thus far all I have is what David has thus far shown me. He's weak. The strongest strategy in the world cannot be executed by the weak. Through all the 15 minute wonders that have passed through this forum I have not seen anything but talk and empty promises and notarized papers and motions. I know what those are, and they absolutely meaningless. "I have a petition to the judge to make a request of the judge so the judge can hear me talk more'.

Same old way of doing things. .

I'm not impressed. Am I showing you how unimpressed I am?

Awesome rant, 9eagle9!! I REALLY got how unimpressed you are! LOL... After the remark you made about David as Drake's bitch I couldn't stop laughing. I enjoyed your entire rant. It was powerful and so true!

I do not live my life feeling like I'm a slave or I'm imprisoned. Of course someone can hurt or kill my body while it's my vehicle here in 3D, but "I" am free. In fact everyone is free. Perhaps we humans need to get to the point of feeling so enslaved that we are forced to finally understand that actual freedom is only within. The body/vehicle can be manipulated by others, but the driver of the vehicle is free. They can't take away that freedom. Only we can do it to ourselves... and we love to fool ourselves by thinking we are slaves. It must be a fun game and it's so nice not to have to be responsible, to have someone else to blame... but I'm not buying it.

I will not be a follower of anyone's plans to replace one system with another that will most likely end up the same as the previous one. Because human nature is what it is and history shows that after an overthrow of a government you might have relative peace for a while, but it always eventually becomes repressive. Ultimately it ends up as bad or worse than the previous system. It will also need to be a violent overthrow. Peaceful overthrows are somehow not very prevalent in human history.

Those who are hoping for a raise in the vibrational frequency of all humans here in 3D... you may have a very long wait. That state already exists on other dimensions. Why bring the higher vibrational frequency down to this slow vibrational frequency dimension? Each dimension is different. If you want a higher frequency where your body is more free because a light body is your vehicle.... go to a higher dimension. But YOU are still free here and in all other dimensions. No one can enslave you but your own mind, your own belief in enslavement. Even beings in what we call "heaven", who are existing in a higher dimension can be enslaved by their belief that "heaven" is the ultimate dwelling place and there is no reason for them to leave, nor would they seek to leave because it would seem impossible. Hogwash. I've seen as many people/souls trapped in "heaven" as trapped here on earth...all by their limiting beliefs.

The fact is we are one with the Source. We are all powerful, we are free. There is only one, etc. etc. We're just here playing a game and by all means, if the game you choose is to pretend you're a slave to the system and you must revolt, that's great and I hope you enjoy it! I will enjoy watching but I'm not helping in a revolution to free myself from slavery. I am already free. If someone brings the battle to us, we (my husband and I) will fight and enjoy it. If our body is killed... so what. It's just a car and this life is just a ride... and in my case it's an older model car so I'm about ready to turn it in for a newer, lighter body!

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Blueskywalking (here)
I searched the title of the "newsletter" referred to and found this link where "somebody" seems to have posted it.

http://www.libertyroundtable.com/con...9D-and-fulford

As others have said, thanks for finding that.

If anyone wants a blow by blow deconstruction of Drake, you might try the above article by Joel Skousen.

Given the ease, repeatedly demonstrated and once again evident, with which we can be divided, distracted and deceived by the most ridiculous provocations, I am confident that what the bastards in power fear most is not generally apparent to us.

[9eagle9]

Within all of this process, you’re going to have people taking care of, in terms of trying to make sure that the lights are all on, etc…[and, what limits does he have in mind for “taking care of people”?]. If there’s a food shortage someplace, they will break out emergency rations and will make sure people don’t starve. In other words, everything that you can think of in terms of maintaining a general lifestyle is going to be as preserved as possible [In other words, this is going to be a quick and painless revolution--

Someone making sure I don't starve sure doesn't sound sovereign to me. I can make sure I don't starve, thanks Drake.

Who is 'they' that is going to make sure I don't starve...lol.

A general lifestyle is going to be 'preserved'.

What? Tv? Make sure your cokes are cold and your soap operas aren't interrupted. You can have your Hostess cupcakes?

It's a brave new world but hey, We don' t have to change our lifestyle!

Painless revolution. For anyone who has ever changed their diet, changed their attitudes, began a health regime one knows for themselves its not painless. The sheep can't be made uncomfortable, Drake must know this.

Revolution. A system that goes round and round.

Less a Drake than a lame duck.

[MargueriteBee]

Sometimes I think this planet is just as it should be. If it any different we would not have come here for 'the lesson'.

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by Paul (here)
...Given the ease, repeatedly demonstrated and once again evident, with which we can be divided, distracted and deceived by the most ridiculous provocations, I am confident that what the bastards in power fear most is not generally apparent to us.

...and, (after discounting the ridiculous Drake and the silly plan he's disseminating) don't forget to add, "...and no one has expressed any idea, plan, or strategy whatsoever that citizens could actively pursue that might even have a chance of working to commandeer the infrastructures of government that the bastards in power need in order to operate with impunity."

I'll be out rototilling the community gardens. Please, someone call me and let me know where to line up to get my chip implanted. Oh, nevermind, I'm sure they'll let me know.

Dennis

[the_vast_mystery]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Within all of this process, you’re going to have people taking care of, in terms of trying to make sure that the lights are all on, etc…[and, what limits does he have in mind for “taking care of people”?]. If there’s a food shortage someplace, they will break out emergency rations and will make sure people don’t starve. In other words, everything that you can think of in terms of maintaining a general lifestyle is going to be as preserved as possible [In other words, this is going to be a quick and painless revolution--

Someone making sure I don't starve sure doesn't sound sovereign to me. I can make sure I don't starve, thanks Drake.

Who is 'they' that is going to make sure I don't starve...lol.

A general lifestyle is going to be 'preserved'.

What? Tv? Make sure your cokes are cold and your soap operas aren't interrupted. You can have your Hostess cupcakes?

It's a brave new world but hey, We don' t have to change our lifestyle!

Painless revolution. For anyone who has ever changed their diet, changed their attitudes, began a health regime one knows for themselves its not painless. The sheep can't be made uncomfortable, Drake must know this.

Revolution. A system that goes round and round.

Less a Drake than a lame duck.

Really? You're right, a medieval Sovereign certainly would never feed his people! He'd keep them on the edge of starving to ensure their compliance and keep them working for him. He'd keep everyone as bereft of any resources and education as possible to make sure that they could never depose him. Now, a compassionate person? You know they just might want to feed everyone they could because they had a heart.

Until people may freely choose to disobey the laws of physics you are NOT fully independent and fully sovereign in this world. You are bound by nature and its laws: Things such as needs for food, water, shelter and rest for one. If these things do not exist people will die, and the current world is engineered as such so that the vast majority of people have very little actual opportunity for a number of reasons to break out. Grow food? Buy guns? What about the people who live paycheck to paycheck and can barely afford rent let alone a gun or organic food? Oh, too bad for them, they all get to starve to death?

Any Plan we could ever trust, would need to account for the fact that in a huge number of cases people can very much become this way at no fault of their own and would attempt to, rather than faulting them for somehow not being omnipotent and omniscient enough to magic themselves out of their circumstances, do its level best to save as many people as possible and preserve as much as is goodly salvageable of the world to try and not let those people suffer a most embarrassing and painful death of starvation, dehydration, over-exposure or any combination thereof. Again, personal responsibility is not a magic shield from reality. You were given opportunities to be responsible in your life, you took them, you did well, congratulations! You have done us all a great service, but rather than chastise those who were not so fortunate it may aid you more to consider how you could offer the people who were never given the opportunities you were the chance to get up to your level.

[9eagle9]

Sure people have. Lose the slave mentality. Lose the programming. Lose the conditioning. The fascination and trust with authority. )Someone in authority will make it happen(.

Assume your self authority and you won't have any need of theirs.

You've developed it over a course of millenia, lose that slave mentality, herd mentality and see what happens. First a little then a lot.

Service to others quickly became servitude to others.

Helping others is effortless. The moment it becomes effort one is backsliding into slave.

[9eagle9]

Let me know when Drake starts feeding everyone. Perhaps David will pass out fishes and loaves.

Posted by the_vast_mystery (here)

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Within all of this process, you’re going to have people taking care of, in terms of trying to make sure that the lights are all on, etc…[and, what limits does he have in mind for “taking care of people”?]. If there’s a food shortage someplace, they will break out emergency rations and will make sure people don’t starve. In other words, everything that you can think of in terms of maintaining a general lifestyle is going to be as preserved as possible [In other words, this is going to be a quick and painless revolution--

Someone making sure I don't starve sure doesn't sound sovereign to me. I can make sure I don't starve, thanks Drake.

Who is 'they' that is going to make sure I don't starve...lol.

A general lifestyle is going to be 'preserved'.

What? Tv? Make sure your cokes are cold and your soap operas aren't interrupted. You can have your Hostess cupcakes?

It's a brave new world but hey, We don' t have to change our lifestyle!

Painless revolution. For anyone who has ever changed their diet, changed their attitudes, began a health regime one knows for themselves its not painless. The sheep can't be made uncomfortable, Drake must know this.

Revolution. A system that goes round and round.

Less a Drake than a lame duck.

Really? You're right, a medieval Sovereign certainly would never feed his people! He'd keep them on the edge of starving to ensure their compliance and keep them working for him. He'd keep everyone as bereft of any resources and education to make sure that they could never depose him. Now, a compassionate person? You know they just might want to feed everyone they could because they had a heart.

Until people may freely choose to disobey the laws of physics you are NOT fully independent and fully sovereign in this world. You are bound by nature and its laws: Things such as needs for food, water, shelter and rest for one. If these things do not exist people will die, and the current world is engineered as such so that the vast majority of people have very little actual opportunity for a number of reasons to break out. Grow food? Buy guns? What about the people who live paycheck to paycheck and can barely afford rent let alone a gun or organic food? Oh, too bad for them, they all get to starve to death?

Any Plan we could ever trust, would need to account for the fact that in a huge number of cases people can very much become this way at no fault of their own and would attempt to, rather than faulting them for somehow not being omnipotent and omniscient enough to magic themselves out of their circumstances, do its level best to save as many people as possible and preserve as much as is goodly salvageable of the world to try and not let those people suffer a most embarrassing and painful death of starvation, dehydration, over-exposure or any combination thereof. Again, personal responsibility is not a magic shield from reality. You were given opportunities to be responsible in your life, you took them, you did well, congratulations! You have done us all a great service, but rather than chastise those who were not so fortunate it may aid you more to consider how you could offer the people who were never given the opportunities you were to get up to your level.

[the_vast_mystery]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Sure people have. Lose the slave mentality. Lose the programming. Lose the conditioning. The fascination and trust with authority. )Someone in authority will make it happen(.

Assume your self authority and you won't have any need of theirs.

You've developed it over a course of millenia, lose that slave mentality, herd mentality and see what happens. First a little then a lot.

Service to others quickly became servitude to others.

Helping others is effortless. The moment it becomes effort one is backsliding into slave.

Helping others is effortless? Are you a parent? Because I've had to deal with raising a small child for a while because of a move-in situation in a relationship and it was certainly not effortless. If it were, I could think "diapers" and they would instantly materialize by my side, no money, time, or work required. Perhaps you define effort very differently than I.

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Let me know when Drake starts feeding everyone. Perhaps David will pass out fishes and loaves.

Oh come now, fishes and loaves?! That is sooo two millennia ago! We'll be serving an entree of either Chilean Sea Bass or Filet Minion with your choice of side! ;p

[NancyV]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)

Posted by NancyV (here)
If someone brings the battle to us, we (my husband and I) will fight ...

Hi Nancy,

This is one of the points I'm trying to make. Define "us." Just you? (and husband) If you have children, grandchildren, elderly members of the family that can't effectively fight, do you fight for them? Other family members - do you fight with them? If you see the battle brought to your loved ones, do you stand silently, let them fight their own battle, knowing it's just a ride? Neighbors? Community members... why not humanity? Where's the line?

They DID bring the battle to us, depending on how you define "us."

Dennis
p.s. I'm not really talking about Drake here, but the bigger picture.

{edit} and on third thought... it appears as if I am passing a note at the end of a bayonet. Unintended. The question is not quite rhetorical, but also not aimed solely at Nancy. A question about where each of us see our 'sphere' - not only of current influence, but also of potential influence. Could we, should we, try to positively influence humanity or not? Could we, should we try to help defend humanity from predators or not?

Us includes anyone you choose to include at any time you decide to include them. It depends on what game you choose to play and how you play it. In the bigger picture US is, of course, all of us... since we are one. Personally I see no more value in the choices I make versus the choices you make. It's all about choice. My game may not have the same moves at the same time as your game, but we're all playing the same game. Your choices suit you and mine suit me. It might even be immoral of me to try to change your choices, if we want to deal with morality.

Whenever "shoulds" are pondered it becomes more about morality. The Source is amoral and does not deal with morality. Only we beings, we lower vibrational consciousnesses have decided to make morality a part of our game. So if one feels a need to either tell others what they should do or accept statements as truth from those who tell you what you should do, that is a choice we each get to make.

We (my husband and I) will fight only when the fight is brought into our physical presence. We've each fought enough in our lifetimes to have learned to not seek out a fight, especially my husband as a Vietnam vet and many battles after Vietnam. Our physical presence would include anyone who was close by, neighbors, family, strangers, whomever. I have put my life in danger several times while saving someone else and didn't think about dying while saving them. I can't imagine not defending or attempting to save anyone who was close by if they were attacked or in danger. It's automatic. I have never been afraid of death and have always thought that the importance of this one life on this small planet in this slow vibrational dimension is often greatly exaggerated. LOL...

PS: I absolutely respect your desire to help humanity and I do not take any of your posts as being even slightly hostile. You are an awesome dude!

[9eagle9]

Better yet if Drake can coax 'they' into feeding others now, I'd be quite impressed.

Why wait for a revolution?

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
...and, (after discounting the ridiculous Drake and the silly plan he's disseminating) don't forget to add, "...and no one has expressed any idea, plan, or strategy whatsoever that citizens could actively pursue that might even have a chance of working to commandeer the infrastructures of government that the bastards in power need in order to operate with impunity."

The absence of a plan to get out of a mess is not grounds for being unrealistic about the mess.

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
I'll be out rototilling the community gardens. Please, someone call me and let me know where to line up to get my chip implanted. Oh, nevermind, I'm sure they'll let me know.

Perhaps they won't let you know; perhaps they have already snuck the chip into you, without your awareness or consent .

[another bob]

Posted by Paul (here)
Perhaps they won't let you know; perhaps they have already snuck the chip into you, without your awareness or consent .

John Lear (who got it from Lou Baldin) states that we're all taken (abducted) at least 3 or 4 times in our life, for various adjustments and whatnot. A very few retain some fragment of distorted memory, but the overwhelming majority don't even suspect it. They may wake up with some odd scratch or pain or disease, or perhaps even relieved of some pain or ailment, but chalk it up to whatever myth du jour floats one's boat of belief. For example, the concept of "my body" can be questioned. Is that true, or just another story we've bought into, because we were told that it was ours by people who were equally clueless about what's really going on in this realm?

[Chester]

Hi folks - as promised, I have updated my original post to include two new components to my original post that have once again, change the positioning of my heart.

justoneflipflopper

[YvonneG]

Is this a philosophy class now?


And Justoneman, I just read a little of your "living post" addition, and I so appreciate the honest "exercise" you are going through, instead of trying to convince us of anything.

I have question for you and others, ...well, several:

Does love exist? I know it does because I love.
In my life, I see more love then anything else, UNLESS I get my brain freezed into fear and all that is thrown at us, including my own subconscious.

I have learned about the Archons through a gnostic teacher who also teaches about the Goddess Sophia.

I have learned about many things over the years and have experienced many many things.

IN this amazing Universe in which we all live, the only way we can believe that the "bad guys" can win is that we continuously give them our thoughts and our power.

Sometimes I feel that is what we are doing here. I am sure the archons, however they exist and if they exist, just love us giving them more and more energy. I remember the teacher I mentioned above...what he said. If you feel an Archon is around or other intruder in your room or space, Tell them boldly: I Belong to the Goddess Sophia and you can not harm me.

One can subsituter "what is good" or "God" or Light for "Goddess Sophia"...

I for one don't know if Drake is right. I feel that if he isn't he has been used. However, I have very strong reasons to feel that he is right. Should we care to focus on those again, we could and perhaps, not naively, but making a choice to do that, since our energy and our thoughts and our attention do have effects. And if we inspire fear in others, fear tends to paralzyze and we should not be paralzyzed now whatever we believe. We should be preparing. And as someone else said, It's not about Drake.

[xbusymom]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Within all of this process, you’re going to have people taking care of, in terms of trying to make sure that the lights are all on, etc…[and, what limits does he have in mind for “taking care of people”?]. If there’s a food shortage someplace, they will break out emergency rations and will make sure people don’t starve. In other words, everything that you can think of in terms of maintaining a general lifestyle is going to be as preserved as possible [In other words, this is going to be a quick and painless revolution--

Someone making sure I don't starve sure doesn't sound sovereign to me. I can make sure I don't starve, thanks Drake.

Who is 'they' that is going to make sure I don't starve...lol.

A general lifestyle is going to be 'preserved'.

What? Tv? Make sure your cokes are cold and your soap operas aren't interrupted. You can have your Hostess cupcakes?

It's a brave new world but hey, We don' t have to change our lifestyle!

Painless revolution. For anyone who has ever changed their diet, changed their attitudes, began a health regime one knows for themselves its not painless. The sheep can't be made uncomfortable, Drake must know this.

Revolution. A system that goes round and round.

Less a Drake than a lame duck.

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
I didn't say you were unreasonable I said manipulating my agreement isn't going to help you get your way , and neither will ordering me. I can't change your mind, you can change your mind.

It is unworkable, its demonstrated over and over and again. That's how systems work. Your sound system, the political system, your physical systems--they all do the same thing over and over again. Your going into just another system.

go to a forum, talk a lot etcetera etcetera etcetera. What changed.

Nothing.

You know what 9eagle9 … you are right.

Nothing has changed and no amount of debating back and forth will ever change anything either, until a decision is made by people and they implement an action based on that decision.

But this is a FORUM , not an appointed action committee. And this forum was built and designed for exchanging information, ideas, and conversations.

I am trying (even with my scrawny, little, beat up, chemically short-circuited, brain) to think of SOMETHING that MIGHT lead to a better system. I don't see you trying to do anything except tear down everyone else's ideas – with zero ideas of your own to replace them with...

so – since this is such an obvious attempt to grab your 15 minutes of fame- I will oblige to shine the limelight on you now...


<que the royal trumpets... and drumroll please...>

What do you think we should do ???