U.S. Troops In Neighborhood Streets Fully Armed

[Rogerc]

I despair.
Will you Americans never wake up?
"Commies" were never a threat to you - the system went into self destruct . You have been brainwashed to fear just about everyone whilst your own politicians of both ilks plunge you into being the evil empire. Your presidents have been the biggest exporters of weapons for the last 10 decades at least.
They have used excuses such as the, 'spread of communism', the 'cold war', the war against drugs', the 'war against terrorism' and now 'the war against aliens'.
You are slaves to the military/industrial machine.
Anytime you get a decent president you assassinate him.
When I served in Vietnam I saw a generation of American boys good and true who really believed in the early years that they were stopping the spread of communism
Invest in war - it's a cert. It took five tons of munitions to kill one 'enemy' in WW11. In Vietnam it was nine tons. The cost to American youth was 100 dead per week. Investors were thrilled.
YOUR investors not 'commies'.
As a pilot I know that there were three thousand Bell Iriquois lost. BELL TEXTRON shares soared.

When your vets returned were they de-briefed to recover from the horror you created ?
You withdrew from Vietnam after ten years with a so called honourable peace - within months the North Vietnamese conquered the country.
You are now talking about the same honourable withdrawal after ten years from Afghanistan - negotiating with the Taliban ????
The American military now consider it is legal to enter a sovereign country and cause havoc with drones. A cruise missile costs $1 million per go. Buy those shares and join the party.
Otherwise stop bleating that you are an aware and holistic generation and that 'someone' will carry out mass arrests on your behalf.
Get off your asses and demonstrate - the internet is ultimately going to allow you no more than witness your own destruction and feel academic and superior about it.
Go on, save your troops.

[wynderer]

i wasn't going to log in till i saw Roger C's post -- definitely a bump-er

one of the ways they keep getting generations sent off to one war after another is that the returned soldiers never talk about what happened & what they saw -- &, for some, what they did, that troubles their consciences so because they are basically good & decent men [women too thse days -- & children]

Posted by Rogerc (here)
I despair.
Will you Americans never wake up?
"Commies" were never a threat to you - the system went into self destruct . You have been brainwashed to fear just about everyone whilst your own politicians of both ilks plunge you into being the evil empire. Your presidents have been the biggest exporters of weapons for the last 10 decades at least.
They have used excuses such as the, 'spread of communism', the 'cold war', the war against drugs', the 'war against terrorism' and now 'the war against aliens'.
You are slaves to the military/industrial machine.
Anytime you get a decent president you assassinate him.
When I served in Vietnam I saw a generation of American boys good and true who really believed in the early years that they were stopping the spread of communism
Invest in war - it's a cert. It took five tons of munitions to kill one 'enemy' in WW11. In Vietnam it was nine tons. The cost to American youth was 100 dead per week. Investors were thrilled.
YOUR investors not 'commies'.
As a pilot I know that there were three thousand Bell Iriquois lost. BELL TEXTRON shares soared.

When your vets returned were they de-briefed to recover from the horror you created ?
You withdrew from Vietnam after ten years with a so called honourable peace - within months the North Vietnamese conquered the country.
You are now talking about the same honourable withdrawal after ten years from Afghanistan - negotiating with the Taliban ????
The American military now consider it is legal to enter a sovereign country and cause havoc with drones. A cruise missile costs $1 million per go. Buy those shares and join the party.
Otherwise stop bleating that you are an aware and holistic generation and that 'someone' will carry out mass arrests on your behalf.
Get off your asses and demonstrate - the internet is ultimately going to allow you no more than witness your own destruction and feel academic and superior about it.
Go on, save your troops.

[aranuk]

Posted by sygh (here)

Posted by aranuk (here)
Unfortunately soldiers are not trained to think for themselves. They are trained to obey orders nothing else.

Stan

Not so. Soldiers are trained to think critically, as well as trained to accomplish the "mission" by whatever means that takes. Now, there does come a point where an order must be obeyed; however, not a stupid order. In other words, if a request was made for a squad to put up an antenna ASAP, and it was raining to include lightening, you wouldn't see the antenna going up until the danger passed.
The Army isn't MK-Ultra.

My apologies to you Sir

Stan

[Rogerc]

Posted by aranuk (here)

Posted by sygh (here)
Not so. Soldiers are trained to think critically, as well as trained to accomplish the "mission" by whatever means that takes. Now, there does come a point where an order must be obeyed; however, not a stupid order. In other words, if a request was made for a squad to put up an antenna ASAP, and it was raining to include lightening, you wouldn't see the antenna going up until the danger passed.
The Army isn't MK-Ultra.

My apologies to you Sir

Stan

I am not sure where you served but in the midst of a fire-fight those aerials will go up damn quick . The Battle of Long Tan ( SVN),was carried out under such conditions at night and radio contact with artillery and airpower was crucial to the outcome. You would have been shot if you said, "please sir it's dangerous" Get real my man.
'

[Rogerc]

Wynderer , I disagree with you about vets not talking, it's more a case of the public not listening.

If you are American, there is a documentary about Vietnam by vets which was released across the States. It is called 'DEAR AMERICA - LETTERS FROM VIETNAM'

[RedeZra]

Posted by Rogerc (here)
I despair.
Will you Americans never wake up?
"Commies" were never a threat to you - the system went into self destruct .

when we look to America

it is becoming painstaking obvious that the US government has been and is engaged in a more or less silent war against its own population for quite some time

who will the US government call on to fight the American patriots ?

[GoodETxSG]

The more we became like the commies and abandoned the Constitution the quicker we spiraled as a nation; the UK should know something about that. Socialists have driven all of our countries into the ground financially by funding their agenda’s and social programs. It is not a Dem/Rep thing but a fascist thing as proven recently in the U.S., UK, and E.U. “leaders”.

U.S. troops do speak to each other about previous wars and learn from those mistakes. It is a conversation of honor and healing from the injuries of war that these discussions are held. I am done trying to explain things to people that have no way of understanding what is in the U.S. soldiers mind and heart as none of you will listen beyond your preconceived ideas and prejudices.

Like it was said earlier the argument is a moot one. The people that disagree are the ones stuck in the era that had the craziest ideologies and political agenda’s in the first place. The Vietnam era was the beginning of the end as all the socialist hippies ended up inheriting the leadership of the U.S., mostly because the soldiers did NOT shoot them all down in the 60’s and 70’s like the Chinese or the Soviets/Russians and Nazi’s would most definitely have. It is because the soldiers did not shoot them down that this very debate is going on now. These are the people that are taking away your right to speak freely both online and on the streets.

I will leave this thread to you people to play ping pong with ideology and history avoiding the fact that they have no idea what is in the hearts and minds of the current American Soldiers and never will. Instead of thinking of your next piffy retort you should read through this thread again as soldiers from more than one generation have spoken and shared. Though asking that is a waste of time too as each side believes the other brainwashed.

I am shaking my head upon exiting this thread but not surprised. I am going to be in other threads to share where I can but mostly learn and exchange ideas, which one can only do with an open mind.
It is a waste of time and energy having a debate people that frame a debate for the sake of debate and not frame of reference on a subject or with a someone that desperately clings to the delusional belief that they are a spiritually superior “reptilian hybrid” “visitor” “not from this planet” that “doesn't understand” us/or “You Humans” that they are here on a mission to “wake up”? This is a non Human who has pickled their brain on several of up to “3 year” “alcoholic binges” and who knows what else (ALL Their words not mine)?

I have several Block/Ignore profile buttons to click on so I will not see any more of their bazaar posts or threads or popping from thread to thread starting an argument then popping to another to see how their last one is going. Out of sight and out of mind. I will seek those who are open to reason and not looking to just blindly jolt out retorts showing none themselves.

I apologize to the rest of the Avalonians here who come to share positive energy and light to learn and evolve and offer advice for those who seek it with open hearts and minds. This is the last thread I will bring any of this up in.

[modwiz]

Posted by GoodeTXSG (here)
The more we became like the commies and abandoned the Constitution the quicker we spiraled as a nation; the UK should know something about that. Socialists have driven all of our countries into the ground financially by funding their agenda’s and social programs. It is not a Dem/Rep thing but a fascist thing as proven recently in the U.S., UK, and E.U. “leaders”.

U.S. troops do speak to each other about previous wars and learn from those mistakes. It is a conversation of honor and healing from the injuries of war that these discussions are held. I am done trying to explain things to people that have no way of understanding what is in the U.S. soldiers mind and heart as none of you will listen beyond your preconceived ideas and prejudices.

Like it was said earlier the argument is a moot one. The people that disagree are the ones stuck in the era that had the craziest ideologies and political agenda’s in the first place. The Vietnam era was the beginning of the end as all the socialist hippies ended up inheriting the leadership of the U.S., mostly because the soldiers did NOT shoot them all down in the 60’s and 70’s like the Chinese or the Soviets/Russians and Nazi’s would most definitely have. It is because the soldiers did not shoot them down that this very debate is going on now. These are the people that are taking away your right to speak freely both online and on the streets.

I will leave this thread to you people to play ping pong with ideology and history avoiding the fact that they have no idea what is in the hearts and minds of the current American Soldiers and never will. Instead of thinking of your next piffy retort you should read through this thread again as soldiers from more than one generation have spoken and shared. Though asking that is a waste of time too as each side believes the other brainwashed.

I am shaking my head upon exiting this thread but not surprised. I am going to be in other threads to share where I can but mostly learn and exchange ideas, which one can only do with an open mind.
It is a waste of time and energy having a debate people that frame a debate for the sake of debate and not frame of reference on a subject or with a someone that desperately clings to the delusional belief that they are a spiritually superior “reptilian hybrid” “visitor” “not from this planet” that “doesn't understand” us/or “You Humans” that they are here on a mission to “wake up”? This is a non Human who has pickled their brain on several of up to “3 year” “alcoholic binges” and who knows what else (ALL Their words not mine)?

I have several Block/Ignore profile buttons to click on so I will not see any more of their bazaar posts or threads or popping from thread to thread starting an argument then popping to another to see how their last one is going. Out of sight and out of mind. I will seek those who are open to reason and not looking to just blindly jolt out retorts showing none themselves.

I apologize to the rest of the Avalonians here who come to share positive energy and light to learn and evolve and offer advice for those who seek it with open hearts and minds. This is the last thread I will bring any of this up in.

Your points of view as a military and financial man have been fine wine for me. I do hope your obvious decency will impel you to share more where you deem it worth your efforts. The frustration can run deep and cold. You have seen me lose the top of my head temporarily and your words paly rueful melodies within me.

I once again thank you for your contributions.

[GoodETxSG]

Posted by modwiz (here)
Your points of view as a military and financial man have been fine wine for me. I do hope your obvious decency will impel you to share more where you deem it worth your efforts. The frustration can run deep and cold. You have seen me lose the top of my head temporarily and your words paly rueful melodies within me.

I once again thank you for your contributions.

Thank you sir, I was told about your post so I had to come and say thank you sir. I will continue to post, just will no longer take part in the loony bin group's debates. I enjoy the intellect behind your posts as well. Even if I do not agree with them (I am not saying I do not) I understand the energy behind your line of thought.

[Rogerc]

Tex, On your good advice I have read the thread in its entirety and find that the sanest posts relevant to the military are by Levent Tonga who does not state that he is/was military but I suspect he was.
Forgive me for asking but have you seen active service as a Guardsman ? If so I apologise but otherwise it makes your expertise meaningless in this regard.
The world is full of wannabees.

[GoodETxSG]

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[wynderer]

Posted by RedeZra (here)

Posted by Rogerc (here)
I despair.
Will you Americans never wake up?
"Commies" were never a threat to you - the system went into self destruct .

when we look to America

it is becoming painstaking obvious that the US government has been and is engaged in a more or less silent war against its own population for quite some time

who will the US government call on to fight the American patriots ?

foreign troops, mercenaries, & the hybrid supersoldiers/sleeping beserkers being 'seeded' or 'embedded' throughout the planet

[wynderer]

Rogerc --

i'll check out the 'Dear America' documentary --

is it not true that our war against the Vietnamese people was the last one actually televised? -- TV was fully established by then -- they made it easy for just about everyone to get one in the '50s -- perhaps they'd hoped that televising a war would be a good tool to further dumb down the useless eaters --

but it backfired on them -- we got informed, & angry

or maybe they just used our outrage to back out of a situation they didn't want to be in anymore

whatever went on -- a lot of my high school classmates who went to 'Nam never came back

wyn

Posted by Rogerc (here)
Wynderer , I disagree with you about vets not talking, it's more a case of the public not listening.

If you are American, there is a documentary about Vietnam by vets which was released across the States. It is called 'DEAR AMERICA - LETTERS FROM VIETNAM'

[sdv]

Worth repeating ...

I despair.
Will you Americans never wake up?
"Commies" were never a threat to you - the system went into self destruct . You have been brainwashed to fear just about everyone whilst your own politicians of both ilks plunge you into being the evil empire. Your presidents have been the biggest exporters of weapons for the last 10 decades at least.
They have used excuses such as the, 'spread of communism', the 'cold war', the war against drugs', the 'war against terrorism' and now 'the war against aliens'.
You are slaves to the military/industrial machine.
Anytime you get a decent president you assassinate him.
When I served in Vietnam I saw a generation of American boys good and true who really believed in the early years that they were stopping the spread of communism
Invest in war - it's a cert. It took five tons of munitions to kill one 'enemy' in WW11. In Vietnam it was nine tons. The cost to American youth was 100 dead per week. Investors were thrilled.
YOUR investors not 'commies'.
As a pilot I know that there were three thousand Bell Iriquois lost. BELL TEXTRON shares soared.

When your vets returned were they de-briefed to recover from the horror you created ?
You withdrew from Vietnam after ten years with a so called honourable peace - within months the North Vietnamese conquered the country.
You are now talking about the same honourable withdrawal after ten years from Afghanistan - negotiating with the Taliban ????
The American military now consider it is legal to enter a sovereign country and cause havoc with drones. A cruise missile costs $1 million per go. Buy those shares and join the party.
Otherwise stop bleating that you are an aware and holistic generation and that 'someone' will carry out mass arrests on your behalf.
Get off your asses and demonstrate - the internet is ultimately going to allow you no more than witness your own destruction and feel academic and superior about it.
Go on, save your troops.

By the way, I like 'commies', just as I do Muslims, Jews and even rampant capitalists, and so on. They are my friends, my neighbours, part of my community. Never could understand why Americans find 'commies' so terrifying. If there wasn't a vibrant Communist Party in my country, who the heck would stand up for decent wages and working conditions for workers (certainly not the capitalists)!

[AuCo]

Posted by GoodeTXSG (here)
The more we became like the commies and abandoned the Constitution the quicker we spiraled as a nation; the UK should know something about that. Socialists have driven all of our countries into the ground financially by funding their agenda’s and social programs. It is not a Dem/Rep thing but a fascist thing as proven recently in the U.S., UK, and E.U. “leaders”.

U.S. troops do speak to each other about previous wars and learn from those mistakes. It is a conversation of honor and healing from the injuries of war that these discussions are held. I am done trying to explain things to people that have no way of understanding what is in the U.S. soldiers mind and heart as none of you will listen beyond your preconceived ideas and prejudices.

Like it was said earlier the argument is a moot one. The people that disagree are the ones stuck in the era that had the craziest ideologies and political agenda’s in the first place. The Vietnam era was the beginning of the end as all the socialist hippies ended up inheriting the leadership of the U.S., mostly because the soldiers did NOT shoot them all down in the 60’s and 70’s like the Chinese or the Soviets/Russians and Nazi’s would most definitely have. It is because the soldiers did not shoot them down that this very debate is going on now. These are the people that are taking away your right to speak freely both online and on the streets.

I will leave this thread to you people to play ping pong with ideology and history avoiding the fact that they have no idea what is in the hearts and minds of the current American Soldiers and never will. Instead of thinking of your next piffy retort you should read through this thread again as soldiers from more than one generation have spoken and shared. Though asking that is a waste of time too as each side believes the other brainwashed.

I am shaking my head upon exiting this thread but not surprised. I am going to be in other threads to share where I can but mostly learn and exchange ideas, which one can only do with an open mind.
It is a waste of time and energy having a debate people that frame a debate for the sake of debate and not frame of reference on a subject or with a someone that desperately clings to the delusional belief that they are a spiritually superior “reptilian hybrid” “visitor” “not from this planet” that “doesn't understand” us/or “You Humans” that they are here on a mission to “wake up”? This is a non Human who has pickled their brain on several of up to “3 year” “alcoholic binges” and who knows what else (ALL Their words not mine)?

I have several Block/Ignore profile buttons to click on so I will not see any more of their bazaar posts or threads or popping from thread to thread starting an argument then popping to another to see how their last one is going. Out of sight and out of mind. I will seek those who are open to reason and not looking to just blindly jolt out retorts showing none themselves.

I apologize to the rest of the Avalonians here who come to share positive energy and light to learn and evolve and offer advice for those who seek it with open hearts and minds. This is the last thread I will bring any of this up in.

Well said.

I remember the Tiananmen Square Massacre in which the Chinese gov't did not use the local law enforcements or the troops near Bejing. It took them a while to mobilize the soldiers from the Northeast region who did not speak the same language as the local and so had little empathy for the protesters.

I would not be surprised if these hippy turned politician nitwits one day invite the Chinese to knock on my door here in America.

[Lost N Found]

Posted by RedeZra (here)

Posted by Rogerc (here)
I despair.
Will you Americans never wake up?
"Commies" were never a threat to you - the system went into self destruct .

when we look to America

it is becoming painstaking obvious that the US government has been and is engaged in a more or less silent war against its own population for quite some time

who will the US government call on to fight the American patriots ?

The UNITED STATES INC government will be calling on A.C.O.R.N. The UN, The Russians, China and look who else they have already co-opted, The Drug cartels in Mexico. The Treasonous basturds in DC have already shipped plenty of weapons to them. Rodgerc has it right to the point of our own government is the greatest danger and threat to the American people. The real terrorists in the world are all the alfebet soups, DHS, IRS, TSA, NSA, EPA, Lets not forget the Wash. DC Crowd of Lawyers/polititions. And the real monsters behind the scenes, The Banksters.

And here is the real rub, WE have allowed all of them to do whatever they want to us. I ask this one question, WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE?

[Rogerc]

Thanks Tex question answered

[wynderer]

The Black Awakening - Russ Dizdar

The Rise of the Satanic Super Soldiers

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=DvDiuvjEYww

[Rogerc]

I think that in the Vietnam days America still had freedom of the press. Since 'our' anti-Christ Murdoch took over your press and joined the 'Axis of Evil' those freedoms have been lost. Uncle Sam realised that press freedom in a war zone was detrimental to their agenda.

[Rogerc]

AuCo,
And I remember Kent State and Waco, (Texas). They didn't even have to change the language to shoot and burn American men, women and children.