Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

[Bo Atkinson]

Posted by corson (here)
wavydome, i have to tell you something bizarre, may i pm you?
regards, corson

Please do PM, if you like, anyone...

[kk4aei]

See http://psci2012.blogspot.com for updates.

[karelia]

Posted by kk4aei (here)
<snip>
This covers the first hour or so of the show. Out of the 30 items listed above, only six are confirmed via our network, which is a paltry 20% confirmation rate...egregiously insufficient to depend upon this information as wholly accurate.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm given the impression here that it's Drake's word (and we don't know Drake) versus your word (and we don't know you). On the one hand, half the forum laughs at us who resonate with Drake and figure there is no harm in believing him unless/until proven wrong, and on the other hand, you come in here and act like someone in the know without offering any verification whatsoever, and I guess we're supposed to believe you?

[Sebastion]

That's funny as I was thinking the same thing last night. Sure would be nice to be informed what kk4aei is all about!

Posted by karelia (here)

Posted by kk4aei (here)
<snip>
This covers the first hour or so of the show. Out of the 30 items listed above, only six are confirmed via our network, which is a paltry 20% confirmation rate...egregiously insufficient to depend upon this information as wholly accurate.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm given the impression here that it's Drake's word (and we don't know Drake) versus your word (and we don't know you). On the one hand, half the forum laughs at us who resonate with Drake and figure there is no harm in believing him unless/until proven wrong, and on the other hand, you come in here and act like someone in the know without offering any verification whatsoever, and I guess we're supposed to believe you?

[kk4aei]

See http://psci2012.blogspot.com for updates.

[mountain_jim]

Posted by kk4aei (here)
Review https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...220#post478220 and https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...586#post478586 for starters - contact and background info was already provided in the forum. Feel free to contact us directly for additional information. To review a history of posts, simply click on the hyperlinked handle ('kk4aei' in on the left side of the page, then select 'View Forum Posts').

If you're looking for proof positive about anything going on behind the scenes...good luck with that. If you want to figure out who to believe, look in the mirror. BELIEVE IN YOURSELF!

If you want to verify information, suggest establishing a network of trustworthy individuals to review information presented by Drake Bailey et al and decide what is correct, what remains indeterminate, and what is simply wrong. That's what we do...pretty sure that's what Bailey, Wilcock, Fulford and others do, as well. Some of the content will be correct, some off the mark. We all decide for ourselves what is truth and what's not...we are always stuck with some 'grey area' content that may fall into either category, which is where a lot of this material seems to be categorized for the most part...the 'Maybe' category.

I read and resonated with those posts several days ago. I read and found alot of value in your alternative opinions about the likelyhood and timelines of the Plan as presented by Drake in first hour. It does resonate to me that these things are happening, or being attempted, but the Drake presentations have been too optimistic and simplified across various estimates.

I stopped listening to Drake after the first interview - but continue to follow the discussion here. I continue to prepare for some outages/disruptions but don't have a feeling for the when.

I like the Avocadess-type optimism and energy, because I do understand and resonate that we as Lightworkers and Divinely-inspired, Reality-Creators-in-training WILL and ARE having effects on these coming Events that the rationalists/common-sense positions (that Bill appears to favor) are underestimating and undervaluing in my awareness-evaluations (and perhaps Faith-based opinions).

My own Energy-Awareness and Consciousness changes-in-progress are my own validation that the above (reality-affecting-capabilities) really are happening, and accelerating.


But then:

you may say I'm a Dreamer, but I'm not the Only One'

These Dreams are becoming Reality... The issue is time - weeks/months, or years/generations? Time Will Tell.

So I have stocked up on TP, food, and provisions - but I join with the optimists in Visualizing and Resonating with the highest, best, and quickest outcomes while preparing for less than that.

[Avocadess]

One last post: Apologies for the "bully" word. Bill was NOT being a bully. It just FELT like bullying when added to the NUMEROUS people who have posted negatively -- over and over and over and over and over again -- on threads about Drake et al.

They probably think they are doing a GOOD thing. (Well, at least some of them.)

But I don't want anyone who wants to read my posts be forced to go through unrelenting negativity. There are enough distractions in my life without contending with all that. The "ignore" list helped me a LOT for quite a while -- but the moment I realized I wished to add Bill Ryan to my "ignore" list I realized it was time for me to leave.

Bill Ryan, is in my estimation, a good guy.

Much simpler to post on my own website.

I'll miss you all, but for me at this time it is for the best. I have many stresses in my life right now I have not discussed on this forum and it will make life simpler (and more enjoyable).

Have the best day EVER..!!

[mountain_jim]

Posted by Avocadess (here)
One last post: Apologies for the "bully" word. Bill was NOT being a bully. It just FELT like bullying when added to the NUMEROUS people who have posted negatively -- over and over and over and over and over again -- on threads about Drake et al.

They probably think they are doing a GOOD thing. (Well, at least some of them.)

But I don't want anyone who wants to read my posts be forced to go through unrelenting negativity. There are enough distractions in my life without contending with all that. The "ignore" list helped me a LOT for quite a while -- but the moment I realize I wished to all Bill Ryan to my "ignore" list I realized it was time for me to leave.

Bill Ryan, is in my estimation, a good guy.

Much simpler to post on my own website.

But your ideas, opinions, and Energy might affect more folks positively from here.

We who collectively Intend to prove Bill was a pessimist as Events unfold will miss you here.

[kk4aei]

If you understand Buddha's Palm,

https://youtube.com/watch?v=BHJM5ZS4dmQ

you will understand the approach to seeing things as they are, to knowing what to do and what not to do. There is no debate. Truth cannot contradict truth. There is only truth.

[MacStar]

Well all this "talking" is certainly interesting and quite possibly important, but if and when the SHTF and sometime it will....your neighbours and direct physical community are going to be the ones that you'll want on your side.Panic can turn your own street into a nighmare.
So start today,make the change YOU want,get to know your neighbours,make a start at getting off "The Grid" and start helping others to do the same.We don't have time on Earth as it is to bubble wrap our homes and lives.
Lead by example and break down the barriers that communities and townships already have....do you even know your neighbors?..like really?

It's too easy to draw the curtains and cast judgments on people you don't really know(and we all do it)....as I said, in a time of rapid change,you'll be better off closing the gaps within your own neighbourhood.

I for one am not waiting to be saved...it's my dreamworld and it's up to me.

Want Peace?

Make it happen.

[EnergyGardener]

Posted by kk4aei (here)
We have decided to make this our last post, as well. The goal was to help network insiders working behind the scenes so they could serve as a united front when the time came to do so, which is this fall, not last month, this month, next month, or even the month after that, as stated in the public arena to keep people focused on the presenters instead of the facts. Stop giving them your energy and power. Give your attention to family and friends instead...PREPARE NOW FOR WHAT WILL BEGIN THIS FALL.

Online forum activity and direct connectivity with these public figures WITH WHOM WE HAVE BEEN IN DIRECT CONTACT have proven to be a waste of time and energy and have failed to accomplish our network's sole objective which was to help unify the freedom and disclosure movements before the global economic collapse is triggered this fall (via derivatives market). We don't have to know public figures personally, we simply need to validate what they are saying; and after investigating their claims, just the opposite has transpired, unfortunately. We have conclusively determined that a sizable fraction of the content presented as factual is blatantly false, and this has transpired on multiple occasions and continues today. How much exactly?...well, AT LEAST 20% in recent presentations, articles, etc. These public figures are promoting a false timeline and are sharing enough disinformation to discredit the entire freedom movement, placing even more lives at risk than if they had shared nothing at all. We are working behind the scenes to remedy damage resulting from these public disclosures of misinformation presented to the public as already validated and accurate, which is false enough to turn insiders against each other, as we have already observed behind the scenes. SOME of the information is accurate; however, there is sufficient disinformation presented as truth to have the effect of discrediting everything else being shared that we can no longer justify remaining publicly engaged in a public forum. This approach is simply not working, and we have even received push-back from the very people who WERE (past tense) entrusted as spokespeople for the freedom and disclosure movements...and that is VERY disheartening.

We can be contacted via the contact information previously posted, and well as offline via PMs. There will be no additional information publicly disseminated directly from those within our network (who do not already have publicly accessible web sites up and running).

kk4aei,

Thank you for your information and service!

Godspeed!

EnergyGardener

[OoLaLaFrenchGirl]

Posted by karelia (here)

Posted by kk4aei (here)
<snip>
This covers the first hour or so of the show. Out of the 30 items listed above, only six are confirmed via our network, which is a paltry 20% confirmation rate...egregiously insufficient to depend upon this information as wholly accurate.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm given the impression here that it's Drake's word (and we don't know Drake) versus your word (and we don't know you).

I agree with you. This is just one time line vs another and possibly one opinion vs another.

I have several family members serving in the military (all active duty). While none of them have mentioned Drake to me (I have not asked), I have discussed our current situation with them and they have stated to me that the vast majority of our military isn't going to go along with Martial Law. I am also told that they often discuss this scenario amongst themselves.

As far as Hurricane Katrina is concerned my brother (an AF officer), told me that the military refused to disarm the American people so Blackwater Security was brought in to do it instead. In fact, the videos that I have seen posted on YouTube do indeed show Blackwater (or whatever name they may now be working under) disarming citizens. I have yet to see a video showing our actual military doing this. However, I have to admit that I haven't looked too hard for any such videos.

If I am wrong, please correct me and provide proof that I have been incorrectly informed.

[KiwiElf]

The Latest Deatra-Drake-Billwood audio 27.4 MB - is ready for download:

2012-05-03_FR_Deatra_Drake_BillWood.mp3

http://www.wolfspiritradio.com/archi...Freedom_Reigns

[Lost N Found]

Posted by kk4aei (here)
We have decided to make this our last post, as well. The goal was to help network insiders working behind the scenes so they could serve as a united front when the time came to do so, which is this fall, not last month, this month, next month, or even the month after that, as stated in the public arena to keep people focused on the presenters instead of the facts. Stop giving them your energy and power. Give your attention to family and friends instead...PREPARE NOW FOR WHAT WILL BEGIN THIS FALL.

Online forum activity and direct connectivity with these public figures WITH WHOM WE HAVE BEEN IN DIRECT CONTACT have proven to be a waste of time and energy and have failed to accomplish our network's sole objective which was to help unify the freedom and disclosure movements before the global economic collapse is triggered this fall (via derivatives market). We don't have to know public figures personally, we simply need to validate what they are saying; and after investigating their claims, just the opposite has transpired, unfortunately. We have conclusively determined that a sizable fraction of the content presented as factual is blatantly false, and this has transpired on multiple occasions and continues today. How much exactly?...well, AT LEAST 20% in recent presentations, articles, etc. These public figures are promoting a false timeline and are sharing enough disinformation to discredit the entire freedom movement, placing even more lives at risk than if they had shared nothing at all. We are working behind the scenes to remedy damage resulting from these public disclosures of misinformation presented to the public as already validated and accurate, which is false enough to turn insiders against each other, as we have already observed behind the scenes. SOME of the information is accurate; however, there is sufficient disinformation presented as truth to have the effect of discrediting everything else being shared that we can no longer justify remaining publicly engaged in a public forum. This approach is simply not working, and we have even received push-back from the very people who WERE (past tense) entrusted as spokespeople for the freedom and disclosure movements...and that is VERY disheartening.

We can be contacted via the contact information previously posted, and well as offline via PMs. There will be no additional information publicly disseminated directly from those within our network (who do not already have publicly accessible web sites up and running).

kk4aei, So all the folks here are to believe that you are the all knowing to be all especially about this Drake fellow and his group simply because you are saying that you belong to some network or have some web site to visit. I suspect that when folks go to your web site there will be some button that says "please donate" Now I have nothing against what you are supporting or may be trying to say to the mass folks, what I am trying to say, is there has been this mass negative/positive movement on PA over this Drake issue and it has been my experience in life that the negative movement can't find a way to get themselves out of the nasty things that have happened to them in life, yet the positive movement is always moving towards the better things in life irregardless of what may be happening around them. Now you say that you have irrefutable proof but as it has been said above in this thread, Who the hell are you.

I have watched this thread and others within PA and see so much fear and doubt, yet I do see the positive also. Seems to me that most may not have done much research on anything in the lifes experiences but will read all of what others may say and post links to look at to try and back up their thoughts. We are all one and all alone here. We only see what others may say and possibly be swayed with their, what looks like some sort of truth, own ideas of what is happening. I am disheartened by the doubts and fears and cannot exclude myself from that mentality. The old saying of "misery begits misery" comes to mind here and as long as we all continue to live with doubt and fear and in misery then that is what we will pull into ourselves. Yes, look in the mirror folks because that is really what is happening. It came about through what ever may have happened in yuur life that you were not able to deal with and it is still happening.

Get over the hump of sickness and move towards the light. How many really want this sick merry go round to stop and a better life to begin" We all have to be thinking towards the same convergence of conscious change. We do have to stop living and thinking in this matrix of illusion. Is this not what others have been saying? Unplug your minds from this sickness and let us all move towards the light.

Drake is just one of many folks that has, in a round about manner, been trying to tell us to do this very thing, and he has recieved all the negative feed back from unbelievers and those that have to analyze every aspect of what happens in their lives. The Bible and Jesue was saying the same things to folks and that is exactly what they did. Now I am not trying to bring this into religion because I happen to not believe in man made idioms like "religion" however, I do believe in the energy force of the universe and our creation, Physical" that brought this mind into "I AM" "Therefor I AM"

So to sum this up, quit trying to tell us that you know all and please donate to my cause because that is nothing more than continuing this sham on yourself and all the rest of us.

Thank you for what you do and peace be with you

[KiwiElf]

"Russia backs return to Gold Standard to solve financial crisis...

Russia has become the first major country to call for a partial restoration of the Gold Standard to uphold discipline in the world financial system...."

- See Sabrina's Post #848
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...169#post482169

[araucaria]

xbusymom post #873

Maybe "How we get there " is the real issue we need to address- maybe we need to give it FIRST PRIORITY???

How we get there is the last thing you need to worry about. This is the part that takes care of itself

[Space_Ace]

Posted by KiwiElf (here)
The Latest Deatra-Drake-Billwood audio 27.4 MB - is ready for download:

2012-05-03_FR_Deatra_Drake_BillWood.mp3

http://www.wolfspiritradio.com/archi...Freedom_Reigns

I read the last few dozen posts and will just keep thinking positive. Did Drake have anything new to say? Are mass arrests still scheduled for June? I am going to miss Avocadess who decided to take a break because too many of us were being negative and disagreeing. Can anyone else give us hearing impaired individuals a summary in a few sentences what Drake said? Anyone know where I can find transcripts?

[seigiarchon]

Posted by kk4aei (here)
Review https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...220#post478220 and https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...586#post478586 for starters - contact and background info was already provided in the forum. Feel free to contact us directly for additional information. To review a history of posts, simply click on the hyperlinked handle ('kk4aei' in on the left side of the page, then select 'View Forum Posts').

If you're looking for proof positive about anything going on behind the scenes...good luck with that. If you want to figure out who to believe, look in the mirror. BELIEVE IN YOURSELF!

If you want to verify information, suggest establishing a network of trustworthy individuals to review information presented by Drake Bailey et al and decide what is correct, what remains indeterminate, and what is simply wrong. That's what we do...pretty sure that's what Bailey, Wilcock, Fulford and others do, as well. Some of the content will be correct, some off the mark. We all decide for ourselves what is truth and what's not...we are always stuck with some 'grey area' content that may fall into either category, which is where a lot of this material seems to be categorized for the most part...the 'Maybe' category. We would certainly prefer that what Mr. Bailey is sharing with the public is spot on, but we are simply unable to independently validate the majority of what he is saying, so we place Mr. Bailey in the 'Maybe' category as a whole.

We cannot effectively plan our lives around 'Maybe'...so it is advisable for everyone to prepare for a rougher transition than that which is suggested by Mr. Bailey and others. We are all in agreement that the end state is peace; however, this transitory period over the next 12 months is being described by public figures as too rosy...

you joined a week ago with just 16 posts to your name and you expect everyone to believe in you?

i don't have too much confidence in drake but i would say your credibility is way way lower than drake..

you are not one of those agents out to adjust the mass consciousness of this forum are you?

you know.. say that nothing will happen this year and hope every one in here believes that nothing will happen and since our beliefs shape this reality of ours, thus nothing will really happen this year?

[araucaria]

kk4aei tells me his former handle was psci (see my page). Try this for size:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Sounds like a cousin to this one:

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by psci (here)
TRY THIS ONE ON FOR SIZE - FROM ONE OF MY 'SPOOK BUDDIES' ON THE INSIDE, WHO REMAINS IN CONTACT WITH ACTIVE PLAYERS:
http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/4HmbErs37NF

SCATTER THIS POST LINK TO THE FOUR WINDS - TOO MUCH ATTENTION IS SOMETHING THEY DO NOT LIKE...

Hi there - many thanks for sharing this with us on the Forum.

(Folks, I know this new member, and we'd be smart to listen to what he's reporting here.)

I read this with great interest. It rang true.

Because this is so important, I'd like to ask you: what's your personal assessment - absolutely honestly - of the accuracy of this source and his claim?

All best wishes, Bill

*********

Here's the contents of the message:

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: XXXXXXXXXXXXX
Date: Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:39 PM
Subject: Fwd:
To: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Cc: XXXXXXXXXXXXX

Hey there

So much to do and so little time. My planned trip to FL was delayed, will have to go this week instead.

What they are using to trigger earthquakes and tsunamis is not HAARP, but it does operate on a similar principle. They differ in the method of generating the pulses, and the frequency band that the pulses are in. They still use phased multi-axis origin pulses to focus energy on a subterrarian target, vs HF phased multi-axis pulses to focus energy on an ionospheric or atmospheric target.

Today, I had an indirect contact from someone from my past, relayed through a friend. The name is a name that I remember from back then. He gave the name of the project leader, and said that he remembers me from my work on the pre-HAARP project at Camp HERO.

The timing of all of this is real suspicious, as I had never mentioned any of that research to anyone. Also, I was directly targetted with an earthquake on 02/18/2011 at 02:14.20 AM eastern time. I was awake and watching TV at the time it occured. My house shook up and down instead of sideways. The USGS rated it as a magnitude 2.3 quake, but it sure felt stronger than that here. I think I was the first to report it to the USGS. By the way things were knocked over in the house, I estimate it was a 3.5 here. The USGS seems to have removed the more detailed information that used to be online.
http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/bulletin/neic_hmau.html

The epicenter was recorded as being about 5.4 km deep and about 0.6km SSE of my house. My property is right above the "y" in the word Wehutty on the USGS topo map, 4th map down on this page.
http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/bulletin/neic_hmau_l.html

More detailed information used to be at these links, but they are now both gone.
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquak...usb0001gmm.php
and
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquak...se021811c.html

They have been targetting the New Madrid Fault region for about a month now. Here is one area that they have been focusing a lot of energy on since 02/14/2011, in the vicinity of Greenbrier AR.

Greenbrier AR region in last 7 days
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquak...36.-93.-91.php
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquak...93.-91_eqs.php

Global earthquakes in last 8-30 days
http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/qed/

When I had checked the last 7 days list back on 02/18/2011, the USGS site had 66 earthquakes listed for that Greenbrier AR region alone. I don't know why they removed so many of them from the 8 - 30 day list. It makes no sense, unless they are intentionally trying to fudge the long term counts of induced quakes in the New Madrid Fault region. One of the guys that came here for help with his 100 cell box lives near there.

XXXXXXXXXXX

[Ishtar]

Posted by eyeswideopen (here)

kk4aei, So all the folks here are to believe that you are the all knowing to be all especially about this Drake fellow and his group simply because you are saying that you belong to some network or have some web site to visit. I suspect that when folks go to your web site there will be some button that says "please donate"

There's a Donate button on Drake's site, Freedom Reigns too.

Plus Wolf Spirit Radio just ran a drive to raise $2,500.00 for Deathra's personal use.