Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

[Muzz]

Posted by seigiarchon (here)

Posted by kk4aei (here)
Review https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...220#post478220 and https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...586#post478586 for starters - contact and background info was already provided in the forum. Feel free to contact us directly for additional information. To review a history of posts, simply click on the hyperlinked handle ('kk4aei' in on the left side of the page, then select 'View Forum Posts').

If you're looking for proof positive about anything going on behind the scenes...good luck with that. If you want to figure out who to believe, look in the mirror. BELIEVE IN YOURSELF!

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you joined a week ago with just 16 posts to your name and you expect everyone to believe in you?

i don't have too much confidence in drake but i would say your credibility is way way lower than drake..

you are not one of those agents out to adjust the mass consciousness of this forum are you?

you know.. say that nothing will happen this year and hope every one in here believes that nothing will happen and since our beliefs shape this reality of ours, thus nothing will really happen this year?

Length of membership on Avalon may not be a good way to judge someones credibilty.

I've been here a wee while and I dont believe everything I think.

Sometimes I wonder if comments like this are why many lurk rather than post.

[Bo Atkinson]

Donation requests are politely and inherently irrelevant and one can ignore them for any reason whatsoever.

We all channel some level of money, with income and expenditure-- Too often it inherently supports evil pupeteers.

The big rabbit hole devastation is the age long enslavement of humans. It is not about one group, or one Drake.

Instead this messenger represents a core value of country people in America. It is well worth groking the language of enduring people. (Who live on arable land).

Country-people-communities are likely the last stand for enduring the calamities planned by evil puppeteers.

If one can understand country perspectives of rabbit hole things, then one has supplemented their own endurance.

[Ishtar]

wavydome, I think you may have misunderstood the intention of my post.

I don't have any objections to people having Donate buttons on their sites, and have one myself. I was objecting to it being used as a means to discredit someone's point of view. The subtext of eyewideopen's remark was: "You're just in it for the money".

I have a Donation button on my site so that those I counsel or teach various shamanic techniques, on Skype, can give me a donation in return for those services. I don't charge a set fee, even though a consultation can take more than an hour, and sometimes people don't give anything at all because they can't afford it. However, those that can do and that helps to support those that can't.

So there's nothing wrong with having a Donate button, in my view.... although I did think that drive to raise $US 2,500.00 for Deathra's personal use (nothing to do with the Drake movement) was a bit off.

[KiwiElf]

araucaria

Post/thread about fudged USGS data here: Whole thread has interesting background info

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...7-Ring-of-Fire.......

[Bo Atkinson]

Ishtar, I support your clarification. (I work in hopes of a little money flow too). So, it is all a matter of scale, perhaps. Country stores sometimes have jars on the counter to raise money for uninsured people, devastated by fire or what have you. There was a fire to hear about, if one listened to the mp3 shows carefully. It is more the thought that counts, not the scale of face value. Not the safety net either, which Europe does have. In the states here, most of us are not insured (significantly), but we can endure our responsibilities and maintain individuality, culturally speaking. A poor person might like to donate 10 pennies, if they had nothing else to offer society-- Nothing from mind or garden or the hunt. Authentic gestures actually support spirit.

For my own part, my important country-side learning, from a favorite mentor of the wilds, was to live ambiguously-impoverished-- Seemingly disheveled but actually harmoniously arrayed with the land. Maintain the deeper comforts and never bother with the status quo of suburban indulgences-- There are numerous cost savings in re-use of discarded junk. It is the occupation of most of the unwanted humans, world wide-- Let us recall that the evil ones manipulated society to to favor their minions. Or confuse the minions into lavish expectations, (for the near term). Especially to deprive the unfavored masses. To cyclicly crush underlings-all and keep them dumb.

My perception has long been, that puppeteers are incompetents. Even this ambiguous Ra figure seems incompetent, in the biggest game. I would say that evil was a master-game-experiment. An experiment in evolvement of soul experiences. That evil as a challenge, provides the soul with opportunity for meaningful growth. I want to get into the Houman thread at some point to expand on this theme. I'm only 8 hours into the kindly provided pdf (though mp3 conversion). I love to listen into such things, while struggling with the chores of independent county life. Ambiguously off grid and also on it, as the flow may go.

Thanks Avalonians, i love the spirit here.

[araucaria]

Posted by KiwiElf (here)
araucaria

Post/thread about fudged USGS data here: Whole thread has interesting background info

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...7-Ring-of-Fire.......

Thanks KiwiElf, I’m not quite sure which part of that thread is relevant here, would you care to elaborate?

Here’s the point I want to make. kk4aei as pcsi got a personal recommendation last year from Bill Ryan, saying we should listen to this guy. His 20% accuracy assessment of the Drake material sounds bad, but is actually much less dismissive than Bill’s since his detailed post tells us how he (they) arrived at that conclusion.

Many of his points of disagreement are relatively minor, things like timetables etc. Drake’s version of the Plan may be severely distorted but it is the same Plan they are talking about. This is not a distraction. To say ‘not yet, wait till September’ is not the same as saying ‘nonsense!’

Since there are apparently to be no more reports from Washington DC, let’s stay with kk4aei’s main point repeated in several of his posts, namely that humanity needs to get its act together. This is where Avalon is supposed to be leading the way, let’s have more of it!

Courtney Brown’s remote viewing (see video on page 646/7 of the Here and Now thread) reports evidence from 2008 of timelines with global tsunamis come 1st June 2013. We are in for a rough ride, that’s for sure, but once again, his final message is one of optimism, namely that humanity is supposed to be showing the galaxy and beyond how it is possible to recover from a position of being cut off from our higher dimensions. His methodology involves intertwining 2008 (also 1st June) with 2013. My idea is that were he to redo the experiment using 1st June 2012, by then we shall have reached a stage where the outcome would be different

[Ishtar]

Thanks. Nice post wavydome.

I don't want to take this off-topic but I'd like to pick up on your final paragraph. We're not actually cut off from the higher dimensions. It's just that the way has been blocked... but the way can be unblocked very quickly by a shaman and it's everyone's birthright for that to happen for them.

As one who journeys multi-dimensionally, I've found that evil doesn't exist above the Astral Planes ~ the Astral Planes being a creation of man anyway, and thus illusory (or temporary, at least). However, the war on the Astral Planes manifests 'down here' and it is that that we're having to deal with. (The War on the Astral Planes)

If you look at the early Gnostic literature, they described the evil that exists on the Astral Planes as being orchestrated by the blind and arrogant demiurge. He is described as blind and arrogant because he thought there was no God higher than he. He couldn't have been more wrong.

But that's what we're up against here... an illusory evil god. However, by transcending those astral realms in one's consciousness, one transcends that evil.

The so-called Illuminati are in fact not very illumined or enlightened at all. They are stuck in the lower astral realms because for them to go any higher takes spiritual training of which they are incapable of receiving because they don’t have the cognitive wherewithal to even seek it. And so they remain imprisoned in their mind-sets of power obtained by fear and greed, where other people are just commodities or a means to an end.

This is why, in my view, to transcend through one's consciousness to the realms above the astral is the only way to create a real revolution. Why play them at their own game when you can create your own game?

For a true and lasting revolution leading to a golden age, we must first bring about a change in our consciousness, so that we easily reach these higher levels.

This is not 'ascensionism', by the way.. it's shamanism. Ascensionists want to transcend the Earth to go to other galaxies. Shamans are already doing that. They go to other dimensions to bring back to the Earth healing and guidance for others. They don't want a one-way ascension ticket because they love the Earth and the people here on it, and they're here to serve.

So once we lose our fixation on what comes from the Astral Planes, and enough people do that, change will happen naturally from the grass roots level. We will have seen through the arrogant, blind demiurge just like Dorothy did in the Wizard of Oz when she peeked behind the green curtain.

But change of consciousness comes first, and change of government follows on naturally from that... not the other way around.

This is the purpose of human life. It is not to have better technology ...although having good technology is not to be sniffed at!

[Bo Atkinson]

Posted by Ishtar (here)
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This is not 'ascensionism', by the way.. it's shamanism. Ascensionists want to transcend the Earth to go to other galaxies. Shamans are already doing that. They go to other dimensions to bring back to the Earth healing and guidance for others. They don't want a one-way ascension ticket because they love the Earth and the people here on it, and they're here to serve.

So once we lose our fixation on what comes from the Astral Planes, and enough people do that, change will happen naturally from the grass roots level. We will have seen through the arrogant, blind demiurge just like Dorothy did in the Wizard of Oz when she peeked behind the green curtain.

But change of consciousness comes first, and change of government follows on naturally from that... not the other way around.

This is the purpose of human life. It is not to have better technology ...although having good technology is not to be sniffed at!

Ishtar, Your post makes sense, despite my thinking parallel things but inside differing language...

I even think it fits well within the OP/ clarifications. Why?

In country boy language, (which i have always respected), wordings are different, but important meanings remain. Yet i do occasionally hear common threads of thought. It occurs through metaphor of some kind.

BTW, since i have listened closely to Drakes mp3s, i do believe he has clearly inferred that fundamentalism is not his thing. He even projected that Jesus could manifest to humans of differing 'religions' as their own perception of their positive-diety perception. Technical terms aside, we can speak differently and infer the same ultimacy. This has always been my angle as well. Which continues to spur on my listening to Drake. I have heard no slurs of witch hunts or inventions of his own. Rather just common things i perceive elsewhere, all up in the air-- Like the 80%+ of positive military people, who are tired of the cabal.

Parallel to your post above, Drake models his role as a good-guy-veteran, who focuses on inspiring gun owners of America to postulate good outcomes by the strength of their own ability and morality. Not to expect a savior or the like. If it is a new-fangled psyops, then it is not helping the cabal.


PS- Drake does not really act as a predictor of events. Some less comprehensive observers think he is leading a forecast or a revolt. Rather, i expect he would call himself more of a catalyst. The beauty of this is that what is happening is already happening and his part could even include a manifestation of a decoy. It could all be part of the fog of war, unfolding. That the events which transpire will be self culminating and most importantly, be un-centralized.

[bekrah]

I want to share some exciting news. I emailed Avocadess and she has given me permission to post updates on Drake and mass arrests she has written in her blog, which can be found here. (avocasess.com/door2

Here are some recent updates she has written. I found the Obama link to be very interesting. I will continue to add new blog posts as she puts them up. I thought it would be a good way to hang on to her positive message.

2nd Update May 4, 2012: Obama is starting to make me very happy:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/05...r-rogue-state/
Looks like we are indeed getting "in position" for the mass arrests and Obama is one of the good guys (who knew?!)

May 4, 2012 Update: Drake and Deatra on the radio yesterday is now on easy-to-share YouTube:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=2YMoPTzNp1s&;feature=uploademail

One of the things I found interesting was that Drake said that we will be SURPRISED that some people we thought were "bad" were not as bad as we thought -- and others we thought were "good" will not have been good at all. He also expounded about a period of a few days to a couple of weeks where money may not be able to buy necessities during this upcoming period. For those who can afford it he suggested buying some gold [or silver] coinage. For those who cannot, storing up on necessities would be a very good idea. For those left in the lurch, people who can share are encouraged to do so.

"It is not a takeover; it is not a military coup....[It] is a...return to Sovereignty" for our nation. "People are just going to have to wait a little bit" on a lot of the details because of the nature of what is coming down with the arrests. Back to income-earning work for me -- take a listen!!

2nd May May 3, 2012 Update:

DRAKE and DEATRA speaking on Thursday's Freedom Reigns show on Wolfe Spirit Radio can now be accessed here for replay:


http://www.wolfspiritradio.com/archi...Freedom_Reigns


It's EXCELLENT...! Drake once again clearly speaking from his HEART...! If you can listen with your heart I think you may be as happy and excited to hear this as I am.


Deatra mentioned that a FAQ (Q&A) page is already up on Wolf Spirit Radio's website and one will soon be up on FreedomReigns.US and she asks that people read these fact sheets before calling in and answering questions in the future so as not to be repeating questions that have already been answered several times. (I was able to find the FAQ page on Wolf Spirit Radio a couple of days ago but now cannot. Perhaps it was taken down and will be put back up?)


Wolf Spirit Radio: http://www.wolfspiritradio.com/main/listenchat/chat/


Freedom Reigns website: http://freedomreigns.us/



And yesterday KERRY CASSIDY of PROJECT CAMELOT interviewed SCOTT KEITH, a party to the lawsuit working with NEIL KEENAN, which in Admiralty Law is basically the same as an Arrest Warrant. Kerry works to get to the bottom of things in this very enlightening interview which can be listened to here:


http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/...32k-050212.mp3


Last but not least, DAVID WILCOCK did an interview with WINSTON SHROUT in which Shrout explains how liens were able to have been made against the Central Banks which amount to arrest warrants. It's a mind-bender to listen to, but I found that the second half of the 2-hour interview was easier to understand. It's a lot to get one's head around, regarding the differences between Commerce Law, Common Law, Admiralty Law, Maritime Law, etc. which most of today's practicing attorneys do not even understand -- but which is very much understood by the courts as legal and lawful and POWERFUL.


David Wilcock is going to have this interview transcribed and will make it available to the public as soon as he is able. I imagine that will take some days, but many will find the transcript easier to glean the information from than listening to the interview. It starts out sounding "impossible" to the uninitiated; and yet, if one has a wee bit of understanding of the history of the courts, it all starts to make sense. Here is a link to that interview which is now on YouTube:



https://youtube.com/watch?v=TlFP9oGTzBo&;feature=share


David Wilcock's website is www.divinecosmos.com and those who would like to learn more about this, explanatory documents can be purchased for a fee at wssic.com. (Those who truly cannot afford to pay for these documents may negotiate for a lower price. This is information that has been kept as "occult" -- meaning secret -- from most people for a very long time, and Mr. Shrout has made DVDs, etc. for people who wish to understand how it works.) I hope I said that right. Close enough, I hope!



Have the best day EVER!!

[Kimberley]

I want to make sure you all saw this... it is one of the links in Avocadess's blog posted by bekrah...

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/05...r-rogue-state/

Posted May 3, 2012
Obama Rejoins ICC, US No Longer “Rogue” State
American War Criminals Now Subject To Laws US Enforces on Others

… by Gordon Duff, Senior Editor

In a surprise move, President Obama signed an executive order rejoining the International Criminal Court, an organization established originally by the United State to enforce international law and punish war criminals.

The US left the court under Bush in order to protect those responsible for kidnapping, drug running and torture.

They may now be arrested, even if American office holders or members of the military or CIA, which, oddly enough, many of those responsible for such heinous crimes are.

Almost all facing prosecution are, curiously enough, members of the Republican Party and are trying to spin a return to freedom and justice as America giving up rights. The only right sacrificed are the rights some of the 1% and key officials had to murder, rape, steal and run drugs.

They may now be arrested under the same laws that applied to Gaddafi, Saddam and other “war criminals” that America has seen fit to bring to justice.

A careful read of one of the trickiest documents I have ever seen limits arrests of US elected officials as long as they are in office. Language protecting the military is less clear if not clear at all.

In doing so, Obama even puts himself at risk but the risk is far higher to Ashcroft, Gonzales, McCain, Lieberman, Bush (all), Cheney and a list of war criminals who may number in the thousands.

As to how far the ICC is willing to go is questionable. The organization tends to arrest only those of dark skin or targets of American foreign policy.

Perhaps that will change with the Arab Spring and elections in Europe which has gotten rid of some and may eventually remove nearly all the old leaders, most of whom are potential suspects in war crimes.

When we see Interpol put the cuffs on McCain and Lieberman and “perp walk” them out of the Senate, we will know we may get America back.

[gripreaper]

Posted by Kimberley (here)
I want to make sure you all saw this... it is one of the links in Avocadess's blog posted by bekrah...

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/05...r-rogue-state/

Yea well, GW Bush had to suspend it as the ICC is a world court for trying global criminals, so that they could pull off 9-11 with impunity, and now that they want to take out and sacrifice the middle tiers of the power pyramid to bring down the existing system, they need their tribunal back to make the scapegoats pay while those at the very top go onto their new system unscathed, and the masses focus on mass arrests of the middle tiers and the alleged "new system" is NOT talked about, except that it is to be fair and equitable for everyone with new benevolent leaders to replace those who are now in power.

So, 7 billion people who are sound asleep and struggling for subsistence get to choose these benevolent leaders? So we replace the corporate, governmental and banking heads and usher in a new system of weights and measures with a new measure for usury? I'm all for arresting the criminals, I'm just not too keen on what is not being talked about, how the new system will really look.

[Kimberley]

Posted by gripreaper (here)

Posted by Kimberley (here)
I want to make sure you all saw this... it is one of the links in Avocadess's blog posted by bekrah...

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/05...r-rogue-state/

Yea well, GW Bush had to suspend it as the ICC is a world court for trying global criminals, so that they could pull of 9-11 with impunity, and now that they want to take out and sacrifice the middle tiers of the power pyramid to bring down the existing system, they need their tribunal back to make the scapegoats pay while those at the very top go onto their new system unscathed, and the masses focus on mass arrests of the middle tiers and the alleged "new system" is NOT talked about, except that it is to be fair and equitable for everyone with new benevolent leaders to replace those who are now in power.

So, 7 billion people who are sound asleep and struggling for subsistence get to choose these benevolent leaders? So we replace the corporate, governmental and banking heads and usher in a new system of weights and measures with a new measure for usury? I'm all for arresting the criminals, I'm just not to keen on what is not being talked about, how the new system will really look.

Have you all listened to David Wilcocks interview with Keenan's top expert on Admiralty Law, Winston Shrout? It was posted May 1, 2012.

If you have not listened you are missing some very important information on how things work!!

http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/d...g/1051-g7banks

TIME TO TALK TO AN EXPERT

I needed more information in order to be comfortable with posting these liens. Keenan's top expert on Admiralty Law, Winston Shrout, agreed to take all my questions in an interview.

I did my best to let the man speak, knowing that I could not possibly keep track of everything he was saying in real time. I look forward to reading the transcript and absorbing all this new information.

The last third of the interview is where we hit a 'stride' where I felt fairly confident in being able to follow what he was telling me.

Nonetheless, we have a massive new body of information now to sort through and consider.

Here is the link to that interview. Simply download this ZIP file, open it and decide where you want your MP3s to go. It's that simple.

http://divinecosmos.com/winston2012.zip

Much love to us all!!!

[gripreaper]

Posted by bekrah (here)
I want to share some exciting news. I emailed Avocadess and she has given me permission to post updates on Drake and mass arrests she has written in her blog, which can be found here. (avocasess.com/door2

Here are some recent updates she has written. I found the Obama link to be very interesting. I will continue to add new blog posts as she puts them up. I thought it would be a good way to hang on to her positive message.

2nd Update May 4, 2012: Obama is starting to make me very happy:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/05...r-rogue-state/
Looks like we are indeed getting "in position" for the mass arrests and Obama is one of the good guys (who knew?!)

May 4, 2012 Update: Drake and Deatra on the radio yesterday is now on easy-to-share YouTube:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=2YMoPTzNp1s&;feature=uploademail

One of the things I found interesting was that Drake said that we will be SURPRISED that some people we thought were "bad" were not as bad as we thought -- and others we thought were "good" will not have been good at all. He also expounded about a period of a few days to a couple of weeks where money may not be able to buy necessities during this upcoming period. For those who can afford it he suggested buying some gold [or silver] coinage. For those who cannot, storing up on necessities would be a very good idea. For those left in the lurch, people who can share are encouraged to do so.

"It is not a takeover; it is not a military coup....[It] is a...return to Sovereignty" for our nation. "People are just going to have to wait a little bit" on a lot of the details because of the nature of what is coming down with the arrests. Back to income-earning work for me -- take a listen!!

2nd May May 3, 2012 Update:

DRAKE and DEATRA speaking on Thursday's Freedom Reigns show on Wolfe Spirit Radio can now be accessed here for replay:


http://www.wolfspiritradio.com/archi...Freedom_Reigns


It's EXCELLENT...! Drake once again clearly speaking from his HEART...! If you can listen with your heart I think you may be as happy and excited to hear this as I am.


Deatra mentioned that a FAQ (Q&A) page is already up on Wolf Spirit Radio's website and one will soon be up on FreedomReigns.US and she asks that people read these fact sheets before calling in and answering questions in the future so as not to be repeating questions that have already been answered several times. (I was able to find the FAQ page on Wolf Spirit Radio a couple of days ago but now cannot. Perhaps it was taken down and will be put back up?)


Wolf Spirit Radio: http://www.wolfspiritradio.com/main/listenchat/chat/


Freedom Reigns website: http://freedomreigns.us/



And yesterday KERRY CASSIDY of PROJECT CAMELOT interviewed SCOTT KEITH, a party to the lawsuit working with NEIL KEENAN, which in Admiralty Law is basically the same as an Arrest Warrant. Kerry works to get to the bottom of things in this very enlightening interview which can be listened to here:


http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/...32k-050212.mp3


Last but not least, DAVID WILCOCK did an interview with WINSTON SHROUT in which Shrout explains how liens were able to have been made against the Central Banks which amount to arrest warrants. It's a mind-bender to listen to, but I found that the second half of the 2-hour interview was easier to understand. It's a lot to get one's head around, regarding the differences between Commerce Law, Common Law, Admiralty Law, Maritime Law, etc. which most of today's practicing attorneys do not even understand -- but which is very much understood by the courts as legal and lawful and POWERFUL.


David Wilcock is going to have this interview transcribed and will make it available to the public as soon as he is able. I imagine that will take some days, but many will find the transcript easier to glean the information from than listening to the interview. It starts out sounding "impossible" to the uninitiated; and yet, if one has a wee bit of understanding of the history of the courts, it all starts to make sense. Here is a link to that interview which is now on YouTube:



https://youtube.com/watch?v=TlFP9oGTzBo&;feature=share


David Wilcock's website is www.divinecosmos.com and those who would like to learn more about this, explanatory documents can be purchased for a fee at wssic.com. (Those who truly cannot afford to pay for these documents may negotiate for a lower price. This is information that has been kept as "occult" -- meaning secret -- from most people for a very long time, and Mr. Shrout has made DVDs, etc. for people who wish to understand how it works.) I hope I said that right. Close enough, I hope!



Have the best day EVER!!

Listened to the Wilcock/Shrout interview. David is clueless about the difference between the public and private side, how they are structured, their history and Winston was kind of vague in explaining it, giving just enough information to point the listeners to his website where they can purchase his DVD's. I would suggest you You Tube Winston Shrout and at least listen to him in the public domain.

The most recent Drake on blogtalk, with Bill Brockbrader as the person asking the questions, felt very funny to me, and it's starting to gel in my mind, since he came onto the scene first through Kerry Cassidy, as a seal team 9 guy...you all remember that story, right? Now, he's the alter ego of Drake? Don't like it. Something is not adding up here, I just don't know what it is yet.

I listened to Kerry interview with Scott, one of the guys who is the plaintiff for the "PUBLIC" lawsuit filed with Keenan in New York. So now, Keenan and Scott are attempting to jump from the public side to the private side and file Commercial Liens with the help and mentoring of Winston Shrout? So, they are realizing there is no remedy in the courts and they need to go into Admiralty on the private side and get the military to act as mercenaries and enforce their liens? I doubt that the initial contract, which exchanged gold (private) for bonds (public) can be un-comingled with the contractual parties whose interests lie in both the public and private side. Keenan and Scott executed a court case in the public corporate side where remedy can only be in fiction, and now are playing "both" sides by using the commercial lien process.

Oh my. For those who have been in the freedom movement, or patriot movement, or whatever you want to call it, for DECADES, knew and followed Winston Shrout when he came onto the scenes in the 90's, tried his stuff, and VERY FEW IF ANY got remedy, and followed the commercial lien process through the courts and how those people are STILL in jail, it should be clear, even to the neophite, that YOU CANNOT MIX the private side and the public side. ONLY those who are totally and completely soverign and take NOTHING from the corporate fiction side can operate and get remedy on the private side.

[edit] And yes Kimberly, I do understand Admiralty.

[Hervé]

Posted May 3, 2012
Obama Rejoins ICC, US No Longer “Rogue” State
American War Criminals Now Subject To Laws US Enforces on Others

… by Gordon Duff, Senior Editor

As I posted on another thread:

From good ole' Doc John Coleman in his "Committee of 300" book:

We are close to the point where the United States will send its military Forces to settle any and all disputes brought before the United Nations. Departing Secretary General Perez de Cuellar, heavily laden with bribe money, was the most compliant U.N. leader in history in granting demands of the United States without discussion. His successor will be even more inclined to go along with whatever the U.S. government places before him. This is an important step along the road to a One World Government.

The International Court of Justice at The Hague will be used in increasing measure in the next two years to settle legal arguments of all types.

It is of course the prototype for a One World Government legal system that will supplant all others. As for central banks, essential in the planning of the New World Order, this is already very much a fait-accompli with the Bank of International Settlements dominating the scene at the close of 1991. Private banks are fast disappearing in preparation for the Big Ten banks that will control banking the world over under the guidance of BIS and the IMF.

[Kimberley]

I admit that I do not know hardly anything about Admiralty law... I am very interested in what I have learned so far. And I have already "You Tube Winston Shrout and at least listen to him in the public domain." And have listened to only one lecture so far.

So grip if you are wanting to start a thread on Admiralty I for one would be interested in learning a lot more! Thank you!

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by gripreaper (here)
...Listened to the Wilcock/Shrout interview. David is clueless about the difference between the public and private side, how they are structured, their history and Winston was kind of vague in explaining it, giving just enough information to point the listeners to his website where they can purchase his DVD's. I would suggest you You Tube Winston Shrout and at least listen to him in the public domain.

The most recent Drake on blogtalk, with Bill Brockbrader as the person asking the questions, felt very funny to me, and it's starting to gel in my mind, since he came onto the scene first through Kerry Cassidy, as a seal team 9 guy...you all remember that story, right? Now, he's the alter ego of Drake? Don't like it. Something is not adding up here, I just don't know what it is yet.

...

I too was disenchanted by hearing Bill Brockbrader being in on the inside info and being used (at least sort of) to vet/confirm Drake. As much as I have resonated with and have been comfortable with Drake, when Brockbrader talks, I can't help feeling he was fed information. I don't think he's a deliberate liar, but can't help feeling he is controlled.

As for the legal side of this, it is outside my scope of knowledge and interests. I guess if I was in prison, I'd study law, but that's about what it would take to motivate me. I'd rather have sex with a porcupine than talk about commercial, vs admiralty vs maritime, vs UCC law. Makes my head hurt to even think about it. What would be a nice present for a porcupine? How many dates before things get serious?

I know it is dismissive, weak, and an epic fail to say this, but I am sort of clinging to the notion that the legal side of the Drake's patriot friends has more to do with showing some variant of legal plausibility to a group of military patriots that won't move forward without it. It seems that facing a modern court (especially against one of the Elite's hand-picked Federal Judges currently serving), they would simply blast a hole in any of this stuff. It will require "embedding" a patriot-friendly (or 1787-centric) judge to give the outcome the patriots are banking on. I do want them to keep going, and I am available for jury duty, if called. :~)

Dennis

[gripreaper]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
As for the legal side of this, it is outside my scope of knowledge and interests. I guess if I was in prison, I'd study law, but that's about what it would take to motivate me. I'd rather have sex with a porcupine than talk about commercial, vs admiralty vs maritime, vs UCC law. Makes my head hurt to even think about it. What would be a nice present for a porcupine? How many dates before things get serious?

Dennis

I did not get involved in the overwhelming aspects of legal vs lawful because I thought it would be a fun thing to do on a sunny Saturday afternoon while all my peers were heading to the beach to look at girls in bikini's...I got involved because those peers were losing their homes and were in debt up to their eyeballs, as was I.

Once you begin to traverse this very big and deep rabbit hole, it mutates into other rabbit holes and the canvas of "all that is" just expands and requires even more research and due diligence. Yet ultimately, it brings into focus the truth of the way things really are, and the true history of this planet, and the possibility of the collective dream being driven by soverign self realized and self determined individuals who understand the energetic matrix and how it works, and why there was such a concerted effort to destroy and hide the ancient gnostic teachings and use them to enslave us.

Once enough of us realize how powerful we are and quit buying into the lie, the tipping point can be reached and the paradigm shift can happen.

[Kimberley]

Posted by gripreaper (here)
Once you begin to traverse this very big and deep rabbit hole, it mutates into other rabbit holes and the canvas of "all that is" just expands and requires even more research and due diligence. Yet ultimately, it brings into focus the truth of the way things really are, and the true history of this planet, and the possibility of the collective dream being driven by soverign self realized and self determined individuals who understand the energetic matrix and how it works, and why there was such a concerted effort to destroy and hide the ancient gnostic teachings and use them to enslave us.

Once enough of us realize how powerful we are and quit buying into the lie, the tipping point can be reached and the paradigm shift can happen.

This is in full agreement with how I view this game we are playing!! Thanks grip!! Thanks ALL!!

Much love!

[DreamsInDigital]

As far as I understand it the "tipping point" has already been reached, at least as far back as 2010. But, I totally agree with Grip and Kimberly (plus others that agree with this), we need to realize our own power, who we are and what we truly are capable of. And, step into that power, possess it and use it to change our reality and the world around us. Which we are absolutely capable of.

[xbusymom]

Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)
As far as I understand it the "tipping point" has already been reached, at least as far back as 2010. But, I totally agree with Grip and Kimberly (plus others that agree with this), we need to realize our own power, who we are and what we truly are capable of. And, step into that power, possess it and use it to change our reality and the world around us. Which we are absolutely capable of.

the thought struck me that maybe we need to be diligent and careful not to revert back to negitivism or sleepiness or what ever you want to call it
-to not step BACKWARDS over the line and tip it back the other way again...