Free man/woman movement

[9eagle9]

There is no freedom in a system as long one remains a victim of the system and is dependent on the system, and remains unaware how the system programs them.

When one becomes aware that it is a system and how the system works , it is dependent on one's own programming then one has the freedom of choice, they are no longer limited by the system. When one begins using the system for means other than what it is intended the system breaks down like any other system.

In identifying one's own programming one is able to detach from the system, use it to serve themselves, or rise above the system. One neither has to be included in the system or be always apart from it. Their placement within and without the system is no longer static--the ability to maneuver within the system and go back out again at will by choice.

People who are dependent or victim of the system are not capable spokes people for transcending the system.

Can you do that? Probably not but implicating another person into your failure to do so is not going to allow you to be unimpeded by the system. Another's 'lack' of freedom is certainly not going to grant you yours.

Until all people have given up their programming the system will remain in place. That does not mean one becomes a victim of it. It's a symbiotic relationship, you need the system, it needs you. You are a creation of the system. As long as everyone has programs running in their mind, the system matrix will remain in place.

There is not contradiction there, there's only 360 degree views of the systems, instead of the one linear way of thinking of it. You have one view of the system and I have several ways of seeing the system. The system can be used against its own existence to serve my purpose.

One's own systems or programming disallows this and views the system as something that victimizes them, and they have no maneuverability within the system.

You think I'm angry and that's a programmed response.

There is a difference between thinking and knowing.

As I have told other parties involved i have no emotional investment in the matter other than freedom itself. That someone is going all emo when there is no evidence suggesting it simply an assumption that the programmed fall back on when they fail to garner an agreement. Freedom means not requiring another's agreement, the system remains in place only through your agreement to its programming.

"She doesn't agree with me so she must be mad, crazy, or emotional' or as I have been previously accused of "having some emotional involvement with the person you chose to put down in order to make one's own blaring programmed responses more 'truthful'. That is ptb programming, and is used to now in mainstream psychology to substantiate mental or emotional anomaly in those who do not agree with any given system or program.

You are now dependent on Rob only by marking up his perceived failures, rather than your successes, to make your case stronger and that isn't freedom either. That is another program. If another person failed that of course must establish a case that I am entirely correct.

You are insisting someone else provide you with proof instead of finding it on your own. It is someone else responsibly to enable your own freedom and that isn't freedom either. It is no different than the people who are waiting for the ET's to come save them. They are waiting for ET's you are waiting for another person to save you.

If one chooses to exercise their unwitting hypocrisy on a person that has actually helped me to maneuver the system I will comment on that hypocrisy.

You were not aware you were being a hypocrite and waiting for someone to save you, even as you mock those who are waiting for something other than themselves to save you. Now you are aware of it and You have an opportunity to put that to good use.

KA was given a opportunity by myself to explain his actions, in private and he could not or would not do so prefering to fall back on the old programmed response that you are using here. You must be angry, instead of explaining his actions he preferred to blame me . That is co-dependent programmed behavior. It is the same programming the powers that be use in slandering those who criticize the government.

How did I get involved in it? the moment one presents video evidence to be viewed you are involving other parties, you may not necessarily agree with you. Of course you have the handy excuse of claiming emotional attachment when in reality one opens their material to disagreement only posting it.

You are using freedom to harm another person who is CONVENIENTLY barred from the ability to pose their rebuttal in the matter. That is ptb programming as well. The Bush Administration and Guantanemo Bay provided much evidence for people who are 'tried' in public, without the ability to pose their own comments on the matter.

If you want to be free of them, I suggest you quit behaving like them.

If you want documents from the bench go get your own.

Having someone else provide evidence for you as I noted much further upthread is not freedom.

[Straker]

www.theclassifiedfiles.com

[Straker]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ME7K6P7hlko

[9eagle9]

This Thunder 24 is your evidence of collusion. Your post. This is not a matter of simply sharing a belief this collusion in attempting to character assassinate someone without evidence. You are playing messenger boy for someone who is quite unable to remark in public on their actions. You are not employing your own critical thinking skills, and are blinded by your own belief systems if you cannot objectively see what your own re-post is saying.

One because you posted it on the behalf of KA, that takes it beyond 'shared beliefs' and into the realms of collusion. Now you are stuck here to defend it.



There is one principal the current judicial system has taken a great deal of liberty with and that the common law and freeman law activists need to keep in mind.
The accusers are the ones who bear the brunt of providing evidence.

"Do not attack the messenger' translates into 'do not question the messenger'.

If KA didn't want his messenger attacked he should have posted that message himself. Therefore you willingly engaged in collusion to slander another person in order to make your shared beliefs stronger. It did nothing of the sort but provide textual evidence of collusion.

Are we that naive still that anything posted in the public of that sort of Deliberately Inflammatory nature is not going to be commented on. Or questioned?

So like many adherents to a personal belief one is found on the hotseat for spreading messages from the guru. You and Anthony may share a system of beliefs but does that belief system include playing messenger boy when the message sender is not able to response to their accusations in pubic? Is that freedom, when one cannot defend or respond to comments made on their own allegations? No that is the current fawtly and imprisoning system all over again, when guilt is attempted to be established without evidence and based on hearsay. When Anthony employes his own critical thinking skills and realizes he is promoting the very thing that he claims to be against, he may enjoy the popularity that he seeks. If he is so certain of his 'information' he'd be able to defend it, or rather the evidence would speak for itself.

I have commented on his beliefs before in private and he fails to substantiate them quoting others, as evidence, I have personally challenged him in private conversations to substantiate 'the truths' he extols and he has failed to do so repeatedly prefering to bow out of the conversation.

Truth is self evident.

Freedom is expressed in one's own life. If I am free am free to comment on this matter since it was shoved under my nose. I do share the public domain along with billions of others.


I still have found no evidence of any harm that Rob has done to anyone . However right here here in textual evidence is the obvious attempt to slander someone elses character without show or cause conceding this is a personal matter. So while there is no evidence there would be a reason for doing so, a tacit reason that is not being spoke of.

Which is?

This does not make your case or KA's case for freedom stronger.

It strongly implicates a personal agenda or program though. I suggest you have been swept along in someone else's personal problem.

It is obvious to those who observe forum dynamics that Rob is very popular for the various topics he comments on . This in itself doesn't suggest he is right but neither does it mean he is a false prophet not anymore than King Anthony who spends more than a substantial portion of time posting live time videos of his opinions on the forum.

The case of the pot calling the kettle black.

Posted by thunder24 (here)
[message from king anthony in brief]

A member/poster in another forum (which I do not belong to) asked if they could post previous comments between us; I offered that they may "cut & paste" the below and I thank them in advance for doing so. This version is for PA, as most of the members at this other forum are from here.

Before I begin, I would like to say I am not going to get involved in drama discussion here; meaning, this message from me will be final. In opening, I am not familiar with the topic of discussion in a thread regarding Kerry and C2C in this other forum.

The topic I wish to address, if I may, is the matter of Rob a.k.a. Lord Sidious. In order to understand this topic, the entire of my video titled "Be Wary Of Alternative Forums And False Prophets Of Freedom" should be watched on YouTube; a member here in PA had posted it in this thread.

The other day, a member in this other forum told me about another member in this forum posting the said video - I did not even know this other forum existed until then. I told this person to thank this other member for sharing my efforts in this other forum.

It appears that Rob and other members there are of the opinion that I slandered/backstabbed Rob. At no time did I slander/backstab Rob (or anyone) in the said video. All I stated were the facts of my interaction with Rob during the time we were in touch. He could have rejected it, not that it would change the facts; however, he did not - for he knows I spoke the truth.

Subsequently, Rob left this other forum and apparently (based on comments in the thread) took other members with him. On a side note, I have stated facts and observations of other people and groups I mention in the said video with no ill intent.

As for what he "speaks on", he and others who speak on the currently accepted freedom movements are more then welcome to talk to me about anything I have stated in the said video; these people have been and always will be welcome - to date, not one of these people have despite my attempting to contact them... I wait.

Note, that Rob is not the only person or group I mention in this video (or other videos I have produced). Of course, people here know this, for my videos have been watched in full and my words read in full by the people here (or there), correct? - if not, then not my problem. Perhaps I should be clever as some other people and feed the feel-good of others to gain popularity.

I addressed Rob in my video because he, and people like him, are doing harm to themselves, others who wish to be or are "free" (including me) and everyone overall. These people who speak "common law" nonsense are playing with peoples lives - this is not a game.

Rather then challenge the words I have spoken, people have once again attacked the messenger. What wrong have I stated for anyone to be "off set" by the words I have spoken!? Shame on you for believing this.

Be angry with yourselves, for you have allowed emotions to lead you and not understood what I have presented. I have never once implied, stated or wanted anyone to follow the words I give and have many times wished many people well who wanted to.

I have offered aid to others in understanding facts/truths and distinguishing them from fictions (such as, opinions, theories, beliefs and such). People can disagree on "fictions" (as stated above); however, facts/truths can not be disagreed on - ever, unless one lies to themselves.

I have offered aid in the "how to" in research skills, while highlighting the mental skills needed, such as critical thinking and common sense. I have also shared firsthand experiences on various topics; as well as, my life to the "now" and will continue to do so as long as I can.

I have never offered to be a leader of anything; nor have I stated or implied anyone to believe a word I say - I have always said, seek "this or that" out for yourselves. I have never wanted to be famous from this, nor have I wanted any monetary gain for what I do - as I offer words for free.

The reason people do not engage my me or the words I speak is because I do not feed other's feel-good and I am not interested in debating facts/truths; and not my facts/truths either - thus my observations of forums, which is also presented in the said video.

The title of this other forum speaks one thing; yet, by observation, demonstrates the opposite. When are you people going to really "wakeup", for time is growing shorter. I wish you all well - cheers!!!

As I had stated above, I post this here as most of the members in this other forum are from here (by invite only) and I wish to set the record straight so there are no ill feelings from anyone (here or there) - as I do not have any against others. These are my final words here on this topic.

king anthony

p.s. I had asked thunder24 to post this for me here and he agreed to, so no one attack this messaenger - thank you thunder24.

[9eagle9]

I'm going to put your own question back to you. Has rob harmed you in some fashion besides disagreeing with you? So much so that you need to serve as messenger boy for the person who presents flimsy evidential videos of false prophecy. If one is going to attack another at least be a man about it and not employ some third party means of attack, why not confront Rob directly if his agreement is that necessary to you?

No you stated yourself that Rob and yourself don't agree on the topic.

Dis-agreement is sufficient enough to single out a KNOWN popular poster and attempt a feeble character assassination based on nothing but opininon and some comments made on a radio show? Lack of agreement? He should be punished for not agreeing to your system?

Even with pre existing knowledge I'm sure is still puzzled by my responses here.

Posted by thunder24 (here)

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
The mind is programmable aspect of the human psyche, you have to remove its programming before you even know what freedom is.

A programmed mind is not free.

The current judicial system is arranged around programming. A good lawyer knows the reactions of the defendant because programs repeat, and they are very aware that the defendant is ignorant and can only base their defense on programs. It is because of the programming that the judicial system hijacked a means of social organization for social control.

The judicial system like the systems of law and politics is all based on psychology and programming. In this same fashion religion and politics were hijacked. Both are social programming. The mind is nothing but a series of programs running.

A judge is aware of social programming simply from long years of observing it from practicing law, and observing it from the bench.

Removing the programming that allows one to form their own intelligence about much matters and they no longer depend on other people's arguments. That is programmed thinking, it perpetrates the programs. In two instances you have shown your inability to have original thought an must base your rebuttal on someone else thought.

Programmed people are read like a book. Their behaviors and their languages never deviate from the script.

When you and King Anthony have removed your programming then you than a you have a space to critique and educate people with. You are simply sharing your own programming that a second and third party has imposed on you.

I note that you aren't using your own arguments and the mind is the first place that freedom is initiated at. That's not free. You need someone else to tell you what to say instead of formulating your own rebuttal.

One is knowledgeable about programming only through removing their own.

Natural law is not programming, its order that has been turned into a program. Further revelation of ignorance, a one sided argument that provides evidence of programming but not what is on that other-side of programming. Freedom from thought. One no longer has to think. Programming is initiated in the mind that depends on thinking. If you have only ever known matrixes and programming how would YOU know the difference?

If King Anthony wants to form a convincing argument against the luv-n-lite crue and their programming of natural order, he may first stop behaving like them himself. His beliefs are based in the same program.

Programing is self evident to those who have initiated a process of de-programming with themselves. These are things that KA has been made aware of ; he willfully applies his own be-lie-f systems on natural order. That is programming and distributes it for re-belief.

Tther, spirit there is program in front of it, not behind it.

Freedom is gained by de-programming not providing more programming.

There is no responsibility in programming as demonstrated here. One's failure to get their programmed point across is then blamed on another person 'who is blurring the issue and dangerous'.

Actually its simply because the programmed is only offering more programming.

King Anthony's own programming as self admitted in his self published book admits to being passive and subordinate to females.

This is why you are left here on your own to defend his program.

Posted by thunder24 (here)

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Because you haven't done it for yourself.

Free is not a frame of mind, that's your trap. The Mind has to have a system.

Freedom is a state of being. Free in spite of the presence of a system.

Posted by thunder24 (here)

Posted by Seikou-Kishi (here)

Posted by thunder24 (here)
Well like u said, THERE IS NO FREEDOM IN A SYSTEM... If (LS) is helping people manuever in the system, then he is helping people to remain slaves.

Freedom isn't avoiding systems, because then those systems define your life as surely as when they trap you. Freedom is being able to pick and choose according to your own will when you will and won't dip into their systems and when you will leave.

I don't see how the perpetuation of what is in place, is helping anyone.

I do think frame of mind, as in "I am free..." has a large part to do with being free.

how do u get to this state of being with out the mind?

You say
"Those who use the system make it the victim, those who use the system against itself reveal it as a system, those transcend the system assign the system as meaningless.
The ability to do all of the above is a means of freedom"
then u say
"Relinquishing the need for a system is where freedom is. There is no freedom in a system. You can have it one way or the other way but not both ways."

These 2 statements makes me think an original thought of "WTF is she talking about, why does she contradict herself."

Why do u lump us together, because we share similar views on the subject.
I do not know law, and don't argue law, tell me where my original thought on here has not been.
I shared a video of KA's for others to watch. What does his book have to do with this thread?

Has KA wronged u in some way or mislead u, that caused pain in ur life?

If u are speaking of the video i last posted, and modwiz's comment i copied as my unoriginal thoughts, ok, but it was not a rebuttal, and i typed my own words.

9e9 im probably wrong, which is fine, but u seem to b angry, and i'm glad u dont' believe everything u think


anyways, Anyone have any documents showing that in the court room they were successful? Just seems like if freeman "stuff" worked someone would have the documents from the bench.

[9eagle9]

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/straw-man.html

http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com...-argument.aspx

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

People who call for the abatement of strawmen shouldn't be creating strawman arguments.

[Virgo]

thank you for this post.

[scootiep]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
You have to do it on your own. Each situation is different. People live in different states, people have different situations. No one method applies to any given situation. My situation is individual to anyone else’s so a template of evidence isn't going to do me any good. Freeman is about individuality.

Hi 9eagle9,

Thank you very much for your posts on this thread they are very interesting and I’m glad that you are here telling us about your freeman/woman experiences

Posted by Straker (here)
In my personal opinion, one of the most knowledgeable in this area is Thomas Anderson.

http://www.theclassifiedfiles.com

I have the whole series and highly recommend them.

Hi Straker,

Thank you for your posts also, I am very interested in all of your posts on this subject and I’m glad to be speaking to somebody with a lot of experience in this matter. I have been to the Thomas Anderson website and will be ordering BOOK 1 – CLASSIFIED as I feel I have a pulling of direction towards this subject so I can help others in the future.

I was wondering who could help on the following situation and how it can be tackled;

My friend has just got a parking ticket and I was wondering how to respond to this matter as a freeman so she doesn’t have to pay the fine?

I am very curious as for the last few weeks I have failed to pay for a parking ticket in my local town car park but haven’t gotten a ticket yet lol as 9eagle9 says you have to try freeman on your own and this is what I am going to do!!

[Anchor]

Posted by scootiep (here)
My friend has just got a parking ticket and I was wondering how to respond to this matter as a freeman so she doesn’t have to pay the fine?

I am very curious as for the last few weeks I have failed to pay for a parking ticket in my local town car park but haven’t gotten a ticket yet lol as 9eagle9 says you have to try freeman on your own and this is what I am going to do!!

Before you get into fighting the system, you need to have a position that you yourself hold in power - and that will come from inside you.

It does not come by asking for people giving you silver bullet formula - and if that happen anyway, it usually does not work out well.

There are some TV documentaries glofying the failures of "that freeman stuff" in Canada right now - because people think its simply away to duck responsibilities.

Despite that, people may toss you a few sparks to get the fire going.

My advice to you is either:

1) Find out in yourself if you are a FREE man

2) in the mean time, pay the ticket and avoid obstacles on your path to (1)

At some point along path 1, you may find that you have worked out the philosophy surrounding the freeman stuff, and you have internalized your logic so well and perhaps run it past a few others for honing to razor sharpness - and you KNOW you are a free man, then nothing I say will make any difference to you because you will be free - and the system will crumble before you.

[scootiep]

Hi Anchor,

I am free as a Human being, but because of the system we live in it is extremely hard to be truly free.

We will always be entrapped into this system as long as we are governed by money, we need money to survive and it controls our lives.

But my argument is why should I be charged money to park my car in a car park? The Car park is designed to park your car so you can use the town/city shops and facilities.

If the car park was not there the town/city would lose business as people would not be prepared to walk long distances or use public transport after a long period shopping carrying lots of items/bags.

So the council is laughing charging people money to park their car while we spend lot’s of money in there towns and cities.

My argument is a) we should be able to park free if we are helping the town/city by buying products and helping them financially for without this there would be no income for them b) all councils or local governments are private companies who cannot create laws that we need to abide too c) all fiat money used in currencies across the globe is worthless as it is backed by thin air and are promise to pays, they have no value so the parking fine has no value.

I really do hope that the system will crumble as we can all be set free; MONEY is the route of all evil the human race would benefit immensely and we could all start working together to make this world a better place instead of the divides amongst us caused by money, selfishness, power and greed.

[Anchor]

I think you may have misread my message - or missed what I was getting at. Either that or I am missing something from yours.

My message is not logical. It is not a formula to fix problems.

You are looking FIRST to the outside - and that is what THEY want you to do, because when you do that it seems HOPELESS.

You cannot, straight away, find the freedom outside - that's where the controllers who mess it all up for you work! They are better at this than you. You evidently agree with me

My proposition is that the freedom you are looking for is found within first; and at the center, the heart, the seat of your eternal soul that is linked to all that there is - that is the only place where you cannot be subverted and it is the place where you are indisputably sovereign. It is where you are a "Child of God", and more than just Human. There, you are subject to no man made laws, you are a "sovereign" individual component of the infinite creation. I am sorry if this sound spiritually biased but that's the way I roll. I happen to think that the concept of freedom and responsibility are all essentially spiritual concepts.

The challenge we ALL face is how does that freedom come out from there into that which is not US in this/(OUR) world?

But THEY, the people who cause all the unfairness and problems for you, THEY are constrained by the same truths; but they use trickery and deceit to mask the reality from you.

So if you find that inviolable freedom within you and you then start letting that spiritual freedom inform the way you navigate your way in life, you will find that things change; because you will be able to defeat them.

There is no formula except what you do from moment to moment.

It may sound trite, but this is what I think is meant by Ghandi, (when its all resolved down to the present tense):

"Be the change you want to see in the world."

Starting with this shift in perspective, you can reframe, you can see and assess the structures that assail your exterior freedoms in the manner that you allege and you will find the ways to deal with it. This was part of the meaning of my last paragraph in the previous post - when I said the system will crumble. It will crumble for you.

There is a reason we are individual and we each tread our own paths and we all find our different ways to do things, but I am sure of my initial premise, the truth is within.

If you don't know you are free, then you are not free.

Its only a paradox at the moment, because that's the way it looks right now.

Luckily we are not living in a zero sum game of a creation. It is infinite. And that means paradoxes can be solved

Even if it takes us a good part of our lifetimes to realize it.

[Straker]

Hi scootiep,

You'll find a lot of answers in those books, and one of the basic things I learned was that you need to address the presumptions in every situation, rather than fight the illusion of a conflict. For example, in the case of a council fine or ticket, you might like to address the presumption that they have any authority to issue such a thing, based on the fact that local councils are not mentioned in the constitution and that although they attempted to ratify this in 1988 through referendum, the people said no. Therefore councils must get their money to exist through extortion, such as fines and levy's, rates etc.

I'm actually off to the council next week to ask them who owns the land around my property, as they expect me to maintain it. But if it is indeed theirs, then surely they should look after it. And if they are not in the constitution, and are only an artificial legal entity, then where did they get the title from, and whose land was it in the first place.

Many people do not even know that our Prime Minister is a DeFacto one. That position is not a legal one, it is just a generally accepted thing that we allow her to be there.

A lot of people fight tax, but if you instead challenge the presumption, you might ask if there was any taxable event in the first place. After all, the Commonwealth of Australia is not a physical place, landmass or country, but rather a private artificial legal entity listed in the US SEC with it's office in Washington.

It's impossible to do anything there, be born on it, work on it, travel on it (or in any STATE) for that matter, as they are all essentially pieces of paper in a filing cabinet, or ones and zeroes on a computer somewhere.

And as there is no lawful money in circulation, backed by anything of value, and the ATO is asking you how much your strawman made last year, wouldn't you rather answer honestly and address the presumption that it can physically do anything, when it's yet another artificial legal entity with no arms or legs.

The only way a physical living being can interface with the artificial digital machine world is through a conduit, known as the strawman, the all caps legal entity that you sign for, and accept to be you through enjoinder.

Challenge the presumption that you are one and the same, and break the bonds without having to enter into conflict or arguement, which is dishonourable...
Best
Straker

[scootiep]

Posted by Anchor (here)
I think you may have misread my message - or missed what I was getting at. Either that or I am missing something from yours.

My message is not logical. It is not a formula to fix problems.

You are looking FIRST to the outside - and that is what THEY want you to do, because when you do that it seems HOPELESS.

You cannot, straight away, find the freedom outside - that's where the controllers who mess it all up for you work! They are better at this than you. You evidently agree with me

My proposition is that the freedom you are looking for is found within first; and at the center, the heart, the seat of your eternal soul that is linked to all that there is - that is the only place where you cannot be subverted and it is the place where you are indisputably sovereign. It is where you are a "Child of God", and more than just Human. There, you are subject to no man made laws, you are a "sovereign" individual component of the infinite creation. I am sorry if this sound spiritually biased but that's the way I roll. I happen to think that the concept of freedom and responsibility are all essentially spiritual concepts.

The challenge we ALL face is how does that freedom come out from there into that which is not US in this/(OUR) world?

But THEY, the people who cause all the unfairness and problems for you, THEY are constrained by the same truths; but they use trickery and deceit to mask the reality from you.

So if you find that inviolable freedom within you and you then start letting that spiritual freedom inform the way you navigate your way in life, you will find that things change; because you will be able to defeat them.

There is no formula except what you do from moment to moment.

It may sound trite, but this is what I think is meant by Ghandi, (when its all resolved down to the present tense):

"Be the change you want to see in the world."

Starting with this shift in perspective, you can reframe, you can see and assess the structures that assail your exterior freedoms in the manner that you allege and you will find the ways to deal with it. This was part of the meaning of my last paragraph in the previous post - when I said the system will crumble. It will crumble for you.

There is a reason we are individual and we each tread our own paths and we all find our different ways to do things, but I am sure of my initial premise, the truth is within.

If you don't know you are free, then you are not free.

Its only a paradox at the moment, because that's the way it looks right now.

Luckily we are not living in a zero sum game of a creation. It is infinite. And that means paradoxes can be solved

Even if it takes us a good part of our lifetimes to realize it.

Hi Anchor,

To be honest from your first message I didn’t understand what you were trying to tell me but after reading this message I do very much so, you are looking at this situation form a spiritual point of view which I really respect as I try to do this myself and fully agree with everything that you have said.

From the sound of it you are at such a high level of spirituality that you can see things so easily from the outside of the mind matrix and not to be sucked into the system way of thinking.

But living and being part of this system that controls us in the world it is very hard to try and see things the way you talk about.

One of the biggest problems for humanity is that we always try to over complicate things when it’s so easy, if everybody thought like you there would be no system and we would be free

But this will not happen until humanity evolves spiritually which will take many generations.

Thanks for your words of wisdom my friend.

[scootiep]

Posted by Straker (here)
Hi scootiep,

You'll find a lot of answers in those books, and one of the basic things I learned was that you need to address the presumptions in every situation, rather than fight the illusion of a conflict. For example, in the case of a council fine or ticket, you might like to address the presumption that they have any authority to issue such a thing, based on the fact that local councils are not mentioned in the constitution and that although they attempted to ratify this in 1988 through referendum, the people said no. Therefore councils must get their money to exist through extortion, such as fines and levy's, rates etc.

I'm actually off to the council next week to ask them who owns the land around my property, as they expect me to maintain it. But if it is indeed theirs, then surely they should look after it. And if they are not in the constitution, and are only an artificial legal entity, then where did they get the title from, and whose land was it in the first place.

Many people do not even know that our Prime Minister is a DeFacto one. That position is not a legal one, it is just a generally accepted thing that we allow her to be there.

A lot of people fight tax, but if you instead challenge the presumption, you might ask if there was any taxable event in the first place. After all, the Commonwealth of Australia is not a physical place, landmass or country, but rather a private artificial legal entity listed in the US SEC with it's office in Washington.

It's impossible to do anything there, be born on it, work on it, travel on it (or in any STATE) for that matter, as they are all essentially pieces of paper in a filing cabinet, or ones and zeroes on a computer somewhere.

And as there is no lawful money in circulation, backed by anything of value, and the ATO is asking you how much your strawman made last year, wouldn't you rather answer honestly and address the presumption that it can physically do anything, when it's yet another artificial legal entity with no arms or legs.

The only way a physical living being can interface with the artificial digital machine world is through a conduit, known as the strawman, the all caps legal entity that you sign for, and accept to be you through enjoinder.

Challenge the presumption that you are one and the same, and break the bonds without having to enter into conflict or arguement, which is dishonourable...
Best
Straker

Hi Straker,

Thanks for the reponse and providing this information, I think I will understand it more when i read some of Thomas Andersons books.

I think I will download the ebooks as i'm in the UK and this is the cheapest option.

Can't wait to start reading and learning from them, but yes you are 100% right the council is an artifiical legal entitity that cannot interface with me a human being so how can they fine me?

[Straker]

Hi scootiep,

Remember that the ebooks are formatted for large screen readers such as Kindle for Mac (which I have on my iMac) or Calibre etc, but not for the Kindle tablets due to the complex layouts and format. I can read them full screen fine on my Mac. You can also look through quite a few pages online in the Amazon store using the "look inside" option.

All the best, Straker.

[scootiep]

ok today i parked in a Morrisons supermarket car park and didnt pay for a ticket, when i came out of the supermarket on my car was a "parking charge notice".

so now I am going to see for myself if the freeman actually works, the actual company that issued the parking charge notice is "EURO CAR PARKS".

I am going to appeal by telling them that I am happy to pay but first I need some verification before payment is made;

a) ask them to send me a bill with a signature on it
b) i need to see the lawful, two-party contract supporting the bill.

As they can't supply neither it should kill the claim stone dead!!

lets see what happens, once I find out I will let you know

[scootiep]

here is the letter which I will be sending

EURO CAR PARKS
APPEALS DEPARTMENT
30 DORSET SQUARE
LONDON
NW1 6QJ


To whom it may concern,

Ref: PARKING CHARGE NOTICE – Ticket no.

I am writing to you in regards to the above parking charge notice, I have noticed your notice and as I appear to owe you money I am happy to pay, but first I need some verification before payment is made.

First, there is a need to verify the debt, so please could you send me the bill with a signature on it.
Also I need to see the lawful, two-party contract supporting that bill.

If you cannot supply what I have stated above I ask you to please not to bother me again on this matter.


Yours sincerely,

[Anchor]

Posted by scootiep (here)
here is the letter which I will be sending

EURO CAR PARKS
APPEALS DEPARTMENT
30 DORSET SQUARE
LONDON
NW1 6QJ


To whom it may concern,

Ref: PARKING CHARGE NOTICE – Ticket no.

I am writing to you in regards to the above parking charge notice, I have noticed your notice and as I appear to owe you money I am happy to pay, but first I need some verification before payment is made.

First, there is a need to verify the debt, so please could you send me the bill with a signature on it.
Also I need to see the lawful, two-party contract supporting that bill.

If you cannot supply what I have stated above I ask you to please not to bother me again on this matter.


Yours sincerely,

Great stuff. May all power go with you on this one.

I think you do "know" that you are free don't you