Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

[gripreaper]

This is one of the scenario's being bantered about too:

We are in the End Times – the most glorious time in the history of earth and mankind. The End Times are the Times of Ascension of this planet and most human beings to the 5th dimension, which is the “Paradise” promised to humans by all religions.

Humans will be able to overcome in the course of this and next year the physical death and transform of their biological bodies to crystalline light bodies. The human race will be transmuted in the blink of an eye to a transgalactic multidimensional civilization with highly expanded consciousness. Humans will again become Gods, as they always are as pure souls in the higher realms. from where they incarnate on earth.

This is the Divine Plan for this planet and human race in the current End Times.

Well? BS?

[RMorgan]

Posted by gripreaper (here)
This is one of the scenario's being bantered about too:

We are in the End Times – the most glorious time in the history of earth and mankind. The End Times are the Times of Ascension of this planet and most human beings to the 5th dimension, which is the “Paradise” promised to humans by all religions.

Humans will be able to overcome in the course of this and next year the physical death and transform of their biological bodies to crystalline light bodies. The human race will be transmuted in the blink of an eye to a transgalactic multidimensional civilization with highly expanded consciousness. Humans will again become Gods, as they always are as pure souls in the higher realms. from where they incarnate on earth.

This is the Divine Plan for this planet and human race in the current End Times.

Well? BS?

This is a beautiful scenario and I would be very happy, in fact, it would be the happiest day of my life, if something like this happened.

However, this prediction is too big to be accurate, coming from any human mouth.

So, this scenario itself isn´t BS, but the person who says with 100% conviction that this will happen is full of BS.

This scenario could happen tomorrow, next year, 200 years from now, or never.

Which human being could say what´s the divine plan, or even if there´s any divine plan with certainty?

Cheers,

Raf.

[Jeffrey]

Hello everybody. I have been watching patiently while I decided what I wanted to post. I think there is much to be said.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post483938

Here I have clarified one thing and merely reiterated what has already been emphasized but is still being ignored by many. I have also requested further clarification regarding certain information.

[SKAWF]

Posted by Vivek (here)
Hello everybody. I have been watching patiently while I decided what I wanted to post. I think there is much to be said.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post483938

Here I have clarified one thing and merely reiterated what has already been emphasized but is still being ignored by many. I have also requested further clarification regarding certain information.

to me, that pic looks like it was drawn by someone who saw a few symbols online, and tried to have a go themselves. there's no arrangement.
usually, there is so much encoded into stuff like that, it has to be almost perfect in its layout. whereas that pic fails on a basic level.
what response other than laughter, and a loss in credibilty, are you hoping to gain by it?.
(i will look so stupid if it turns out to be their official logo!)
and it does seem that you're climbing down slightly from the potency of your original assertions, while making it look like your holding your position.
at least, thats how it seems to me. i'm happy to be corrected on that.

can i ask you if you are completely happy with the assertions you originally made, or,
was there anything you said, that on reflection maybe should have been looked at a bit deeper before posting?

this isnt meant as an attack on you or your post, and i hope it wont be taken as one.

cheers

[modwiz]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Two depictions of the same event?

Yes, basically.

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Are both real?

Yes, again. Each person is speaking what they are hearing. They do appear to be sitting in different camps. Not difficult to conceive or imagine.
I am glad for both views. I can carry these two largely parallel scenarios and find utility with them. Very useful if you are not looking to pigeonhole things or looking for surety. Waking up tomorrow isn't even a surety for me. Or anybody for that matter, truth be told. High probability though, IMO.

A final thought here: I do not view Drake or anybody as a savior. I view them as sources of information and it is left to me to decide the quality and veracity of that information. There is nothing more important for me than to know what I am possibly going to do in various unfolding of things. I feel relatively centered and at peace despite knowing events will happen suddenly and shock waves will rip through our population, producing myriad effects. Some of them will be horrific. The horror will come from both sides and fear will be the primary cause of it.

Finally: I am very comfortable with the idea that a sizable part of our military wants to be true to the oath they took to protect this country for all enemies foreign and domestic. It is from the MSM and other disinfo sources that the seeds of a murderous military, willing to fire upon their own citizens, are found. Whoever echoes the propaganda of the MSM in the promotion of fear exposes their alliance, IMO. Even if it is an unwitting alliance. Conspiracy means to breathe together. One does not need to compare notes to breathe together. There just needs be a common psychology.

[Christine]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
For the record: Drake sent the mods an aggressive message yesterday morning, pertaining to part of Vivek's researched information about him. He insisted on the right to reply and correct. He did not state what he was aggrieved about.

I recommended to the mods that they should write back with courtesy and invite Drake to submit a statement that we would publish (as long as it was a proper refutation, and didn't in itself contain anything inflammatory or was otherwise contrary to Forum protocols) -- i.e. the proper professional protocol for all media. We've not yet heard back from him. I am happy to defer totally to the mods' judgment on all these and other associated matters.

This from Kerry Cassidy's blog. I am wondering just how well informed Drake is about anything.

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HEY DRAKE,

The SITE you are talking about is not Project Camelot. You are talking about Project Avalon. That is a what is called a FORUM. I and Project Camelot have nothing to do with Project Avalon. Comments about you posted on Avalon are done by Forum members and there is a disclaimer posted on all forums that the owners are not responsible for the opinions of those posting.

PROJECT AVALON is owned and run by Bill Ryan. Bill Ryan and I split up our collaboration on Project Camelot in January of 2010. If you want to sue him (which is ludicrious) he is English! And lives in Vilacabamba. So good luck. Further he is not responsible for the opinions or postings of forum members.

Try getting your facts right. That would go a long way to making you guys worth listening to... Lying about me and Project Camelot is useless.

--Kerry Cassidy
Project Camelot

The following link is exactly what I have written in response to Drake's interview with David Wilcock and has nothing to do with what some other person wrote who did investigation of Drake on Project Avalon.

And just for the record, David Wilcock is a friend of mine and has been notified of your lies.

http://projectcamelotportal.com/inde...=31&Itemid=218

[panopticon]

G'day All,

I have stayed away from this as it seemed from the outset to be at best a US internal domestic affair and at worst the usual run around.
It would appear (from the few posts that I've read) that the "go-to guy" in this logistics operation, who is the coordinator of some rather powerful groups, cares what some people on an internet forum have to say abut him.

WTF? I'll sue you for defamation etc?

Come on.

That is not what I'd expect from a member (or associate) of a secret group aimed at some form of Government "re-organisation" with armed support.

What I don't understand, and please do correct me if I'm wrong here, is that this appears to be about re-affirming the US vision of "Democracy" (ie Representative Democracy) that, by its very essence, centralises power.

When power is centralised in the hands of the few then corruption occurs. Simple. Always has, reckon it always will. Lord Acton said it well:

Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men, even when they exercise influence and not authority: still more when you superadd the tendency or certainty of corruption by full authority. There is no worse heresy than the fact that the office sanctifies the holder of it.

Just curious what sort of legislation is being discussed in the US Government at the moment:

• H.R. 2072: Securing American Jobs Through Exports Act of 2011 (which re-authorises the Export-Import Bank of the United States (AKA Ex-Im Bank) and raises it's lending ceiling to $140 Billion US)
• H.R. 4133: United States-Israel Enhanced Security Cooperation Act of 2012. This is mentioned in the report for the US Congress by CRS titled 'U.S. Foreign Aid to Israel' in which it states:
  

  On March 5, 2012, House lawmakers introduced H.R. 4133, the United States-Israel Enhanced Security Cooperation Act of 2012. If passed, this bill would, among other things, allocate additional weaponry and munitions for the forward-deployed United States stockpile in Israel; provide Israel additional surplus defense articles and defense services, as appropriate, in the wake of the withdrawal of United States forces from Iraq; expand Israel's authority to make purchases under the Foreign Military Financing program on a commercial basis; encourage an expanded role for Israel within the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), including an enhanced presence at NATO headquarters and exercises; support extension of the long-standing loan guarantee program for Israel, recognizing Israel's unbroken record of repaying its loans on time and in full; and require the President to submit a report on the status of Israel's qualitative military edge in light of current trends and instability in the region.

Kind Regards,
Panopticon

Further Reading:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...8460NB20120507
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...authority.html
http://www.chicagotribune.com/busine...,6705063.story
http://www.davidduke.com/?p=33579
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/hr2072
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/hr4133

[we-R-one]

oh boy...this thing is starting to unravel....I'm not surprised. My heart goes out to those who had high hopes that this was actually going somewhere.

[KiwiElf]

To answer a few questions (from the Drake audio 2012-05-06B-FR-WSR-with-Deatra-and-Drake-part2.mp3) sum up:

Asked if Obama was a good guy or bad guy: Drake - He might be a "switcheroonie"

Asked if Ron Paul knew about "this" [referring to operation]. Drake - Yes!

Timing for Mass Arrests: Still on schedule

Related threads:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...n-mass-arrests

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...075#post484075

[Bo Atkinson]

I'm not using the ignore list function, but instead skim quickly through this forum for consciousness inspiring links.

Drake broadcasts represented some country segments of America, openly integrating wider cultural alliances, (along with expectations of catching deviant crooks in power)...

Good so far, until his last broadcast. Which for me failed the Jesusonian test miserably-- That is, he strongly asserted disintegration of alliances, made earlier. In addition to some sort of actual threats, which he asserted, at length in his last broadcast.

Not that i was following all the complexities of related threads here either.

Show me the conscience.

[Billy]

Posted by Ishtar (here)

Posted by billyji (here)
Hi guys i have been away for a while up the mountains with nature and trying to catch up.

I have just listened to Drakes radio Audio.

It appears some here are taking Drake's words way out of context, Listen to the audio again.

His gripe is not with Avalon or the thread that Vivek created, In fact he compliments the thread and the research and the feedback from most of the members
who responded on that thread. He is pissed off that a few of members have twisted his truth. Calling him a liar when he answered his own truth. There are a few untruths he would like to put right.

Give him the space to do this.

Hi BillyJi

Maybe that mountain air has gone to your head...I don't know, but you seem to be listening to a different radio show than I and others did, in which Drake states very clearly that his beef is about the LORD being associated with the Illuminati. So unless you have a personal line to him, and he's moving the goalposts, he is threatening to sue this website, this forum and just about anyone who posted in that thread.

So could you say from where you gained the impression you gave above?


The man needs to get a grip.

I assure you ishtar that the Scottish mountain air is very good for clearing the cobwebs from the head. you should try it sometime. I gained my impression by listening. I have transcribed what i perceived to hear below for you. and anyone else who has hearing difficulties. continuing on from the already
completed first 11 mins, The first few comments are roughly transcripted when Dave comes in but Drake's is more detailed
My comments are in brackets. peace

Dave comes in

and says Kerry was interviewed by Chris Vortex on revolution radio and ignored his comments in the chat room.

Dave says last week Project Avalon and Camalot were served with multi million lawsuits.( Is this a fact ?) It was

not his lawsuit.

Dave looks for documents that he recieved the previous night and asks Drake to carry on talking.

Drake regrets being involved with Camalot, mentions lawsuit. He says the problem is no longer his and is waiting to

hear back from The White Dragon Family to see what they want to do about it. It is out of his hands.

He says. I would not like them as enemies, (WDF) But Cassidy seems to like that sort of thing.

Drake said he is not going to encourage the WDF to do anything and is leaving it in their hands. Whatever they

decide to do Cassidy is stuck with it.

D.W told him Camalot was a bagrag apparently their earlier site was extraodinary great.

They stepped on their own toes pretty badly. A house built on sand the greater the fall of it.

DRAKE speaks again.

I will make a suggestion that if anyone wants to see the political stance, The link on that particular stance the

link on that particular page. ( I take it he means Vivek's thread ) The article do go into some interesting conversations ( first compliment) That i did when i was doing counceling among other things and they are very arcurite ( second compliment) They are appopite to people looking for answers.

A lot of that was done on the humanity healing website which is basicly a spiritual website that teaches you what the spirit is, how to access it and how to be how your supposed to be, Which is pretty awesome. They do it in a very nice i dunno you feel like a liitle kid watching an adventure when your in there and you have a lot of good people in there.

I was offered to be a permanent part of that but i moved on to other things, now here i am and fun still goes on.

At one point or another some type or another i get a lot of advertising and even bad advertising and even that which is ~~~~~ ( a word i cannot make out but has something to do with Ligigate) Such as the posting on their present site to me is advertising because most of the comments are positive ( third compliment )

Some of these people took the time and trouble to open the links to see the conversations i was having. ( fourth compliment )

And they could see the combination and the reasoning and they applied Knowledge ( fifth compliment) to what the conversation was all about the individual concerned.


Basicly and primary my job was to offer things that could not be found anywhere I dunno the keys to the kingdom the secrets of the universe that kind of thing, you could go to another website where they teach you the same things, its not difficult. anyone can do it. Its a lot of fun when you can walk around and nobody is afraid of you anymore or weary of you just because you are there,

Its really wonderful to walk out into nature and not have to worry about getting stung by a bee, bit by a snake or chased by a mountain lion, its just extraorinary what you learn, the manner in which you fit into the cosmos, what your honest position really is.


But a lot of things came to light for which i had not considered as importantly as i should have that helped me. ( not sure if he speaks of the thread here or being with nature ) If it helped me i am sure it can help someone else. (END)





Thats all i could be bothered transcribing. But like i said it my earlier post not all was negative from Drake

concerning the thread, I did not hear Drake mention Avalon one time. But yes Dave mentions Avalon. All the venom seemed to be directed towards Kerry and Camalot some some reason which i am not in the know. I do not visit Camalot
therefore have no clue why Drake has a greavance there.

[Ishtar]

Hi BillyJi

Apologies about the crack about the mountain air. It was meant as a joke but I guess it didn't come over that well. Truth to tell, I'd love a bit of mountain air myself right now!!

If you go back to some of the posts further up since last night, you'll see that it has been confirmed that Drake made a mistake, and when he said Project Camelot he meant Project Avalon. Kerry got on the phone to him to sort it out with him. The links to that are a few posts up from here. (post 1107).

Now I see why I was confused about you saying he was being complimentary about the LORD thread, because the way I heard it, and read it later, what he was actually being complimentary about were his own posts within the links that Vivek posted to sites of his or sites he has posted on, and about how people had taken the information in his posts and had actually become more enlightened through his words in those posts ... (my paraphrasing).

To me, that's another example of his arrogance.

Anyway, thanks for sharing that....

[KiwiElf]

Ishtar - The mistaken identity between Camelot & Avalon only. The rest has NOT been confirmed AT ALL. That is your take on it.
Do you ever stop distorting what is said?

[Ishtar]

KiwiElf, I don't think you saw Kerry's blog where she had a phone conversation with Drake last night?

I really am not intending to distort what's being said ... I have the same old 'selective whateveritis' as you do, that's all.

I said: you'll see that it has been confirmed that Drake made a mistake, and when he said Project Camelot he meant Project Avalon. Kerry got on the phone to him to sort it out with him.

I didn't say anything about 'the rest of it' at all.

[KiwiElf]

Then please stop stating things as fact when they are just opinion. And yes I have seen Kerry's Blog. Again, you assume a great deal.

[Ishtar]

Posted by KiwiElf (here)
Then please stop stating things as fact when they are just opinion. And yes I have seen Kerry's Blog. Again, you assume a great deal.

OK, I accept that. When I said 'it had been confirmed' I should have said 'it looks that way to me.'

Thank you for correcting my 'selective whateveritis'!

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by wavydome (here)
I'm not using the ignore list function ...

I am ... but my "ignore" button hides posts for everyone .

I just deleted four posts above from public view (nothing to do with your post wavydome -- I just liked your observation).

This thread is contentious enough, just discussing Drake. Let's not make it worse by revisiting bones of contention with each other.

Thanks.

===

P.S. -- Make that two more deleted for a total of six. While I was posting the above, two more posts of dubious focus showed up.

[EnergyGardener]

Many seem to infer that if they criticize an imperfect messenger supporting and participating within the great movement, that the great movement will stop.

It will not.

But it does demonstrate—if one seeks a new and better world—the necessity to participate directly for the optimum results—sooner rather than later.

However, this further demonstrates the attacks one might endure from those that enjoy leaching onto and against any effort with positive energy. This will too will pass.

[KiwiElf]

Posted by we-R-one (here)
oh boy...this thing is starting to unravel....I'm not surprised. My heart goes out to those who had high hopes that this was actually going somewhere.

Oh, It's going "some" where, I just have no idea "where" that is . The overall aim is preferable tho!

[tenacity1]

http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2012...s-plus-inside-
Benjamins Fulford latest post..
It's good to see some folks be more open minded. I despaired yesterday at the tone of cynicism. I trust my intuition...I feel sorry for those who constantly need prof.. some folks are simply impatient and I do think some are simply here to stir negative feelings.. Thanks to those who have open minds.