It's not the truth.

[ROMANWKT]

The one truth is a very good question with a broad range of understandings and conclusions.

So here goes, there is no such thing as truth, it cannot be, ones belief is not a truth, ones faith is not a truth, even thoughts are not truth, what one sees is not a truth, what one feels is not a truth.

The only thing that could be called the truth is the unchanging, something that never changes ever, that would be a truth of a true state, now think about the unchanging, what is there that never changes, in physical matter everything keep changing its state, therefore it cannot be a truth.

The only truth is ZERO state, a nothing, all else is added, a belief becomes a truth for somebody, its a belief, its not a truth. You can change your beliefs on a day to day basis and prove to yourself that what was true yesterday is not the truth today. Mind is not a truth, its a creator, therefore there cannot be a right or a wrong, good or bad, as its just a belief, and belief is not a truth. God is not a truth, one may be psychologically more stable in an emergency for instance by believing in a support by a God, but it not a truth, its a belief, and a belief in a God has made us all to be manipulated, and its not a truth.

What you believed as a child has changed to what you know now and in what you believe now, its not a truth, it a belief.

Mind creates what you believe, what you have created with mind is not a truth, its a belief. You cannot change the Matrix, you can only manipulate it, within it, you can add nothing, you manipulate of what is, but its not a truth.

The hidden gift of humanity is belief, for whatever you believe in, you will create, but its not a truth, it a belief, a forever changing function of creation by mind, by your beliefs, but its not the truth its a belief.

All the opinions and all the knowledge are nothing more than here-say that is believed in, and mind creates it into reality, but its not a truth, its an accepted belief.

The system is designed to unify all of humanity’s beliefs for the system manipulation.

The system proposes that they are the holders of the truth, they are in fact holders of your beliefs, which is not a truth, but we believe them, therefore we are bound to them by a belief, which is not the truth.

Decide what it is that you wish to believe in, and it shall be the truth for you, but its a belief only, its not a, or the truth.

Re-examine your truths and your beliefs, figure out what has been placed inside of you, and what you have placed inside of you, what limits have you placed on yourself, and what limits has the system placed into you. Change your belief, change your life, changes the world we live in.

we need to understand and re-evaluate everything as the media manipulation is getting stronger with dis-info, which will bring all of our consensus together as a belief, which will make changes here in this realm, which is not a truth, but our unified belief, not a truth.

roman.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...onsense-part-1

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...onsense-part-2

[<8>]

Hi Romanwkt and thanks for your thoughts.

My view..

The only truth is ZERO state, a nothing, all else is added

The only thing that never changes is your awareness and that is who you are.

You are the silent awareness, the nothingness the formless being or as some say the consciousness.

The rest is form as in objects as are your mind and the thoughts who made up this life story.

You are the awareness that watches your thought as it arise, when the thought is there and after the thought.
realize this and you know who you already are.


..8..

[ROMANWKT]

Posted by <8> (here)
Hi Romanwkt and thanks for your thoughts.

My view..

The only truth is ZERO state, a nothing, all else is added

The only thing that never changes is your awareness and that is who you are.

You are the silent awareness, the nothingness the formless being or as some say the consciousness.

The rest is form as in objects as are your mind and the thoughts who made up this life story.

You are the awareness that watches your thought as it arise, when the thought is there and after the thought.
realize this and you know who you already are.


..8..

Hi 8

Very nicely put, and yes, as consciousnesses and of consciousness.

There is a lot of information here in the forum, all stating what the truth is, which it is not, these are things that we choose to believe in and as a group we will manifest it, or individually for ourselves. We must all realize the danger of believing what we read and listen to, re-access yourselves to what is the truth, which nothing is, its just a belief.

Lots of thing are being put out everywhere, which is the doing of mans mind, be it negative or positive, through our beliefs as being so or the truth, will bring this belief into manifestation by the uninformed humanity.

We are at a dangerous times, and the review of what is and what is not, is very important, as the system is now placing all the dis-info that they had pushed out for years are to be put into action now, by them.

regards

roman

[Cidersomerset]

Very interresting Romanwyt and most of what you quote seems to come from the laberynth of the mind but is not as you say truth, hence 'Never Mind'.....

Each individuel creates thru the spoken word , though it starts with a thought.

3—Imagine what you want
2—Let non-physical bring it into existence
1—Add details

Something Dr Carolyn Dean said the othernight , that the whole universe is captured within each cell of the body , meaning I think that within our
holographic existance the vastness of space can also be captured in the tiniest of places....

I am well into the Ion material and have a current thread up of last weeks show and he is opened my 'mind' to a world much different
than the 3 D controlled world we think we are in....

As you say all the statements you said in the first post have validity to some degree and make sence....imo


Is the Ion material Truth ? or another belief for the individual to ponder ? I don't think we will no the answer to that in this matrix...

The essence of the material is we are all 'wonderfull individual Human creators' who for contrast cast off our 'Godship' to experiance
the physical,we left clues all over the place so we could find our way back.Now thru the digital meme and cold fusion we are able to
reconnect with our non-physical andcome back into our power......There a lot more to it than that,but in the context of this thread.
Is this just another belief or the truth ?.....

There is no answer to this question as you said a belieth is not a truth and a truth is not nessaccery a belieth....

I don't know if this came over right , I saw an answer in my mind when I read your post, but I'm not sure if what I wrote is the same..LOL..'Never mind'..

Still a good brain teaser for sunday....Steve

[ROMANWKT]

If we are going to spend our life's believing that Gods, Angels, Aliens, are going to save us, from whatever, think again. its not a truth, its a belief.

We have a name for every health condition that there is, believe in it, then its yours, you shall own it, but its not the truth, its a belief.

We all believe in a system run by money and governments, we have given our power away to them, now we don't know what to do to change it, without a great amount of damage. We believe we cant step out of this. its a belief, its not the truth.

When 90% of the population believe all that they are told via governments, religious authorities, and medias so called news, then we see the problems that we are facing, that in its reality don't exist, as shortages world wide, which will bring on starvation and ruin to the masses, all created by people who control our beliefs, but its not a truth.

Yes they have plans for the Masses, but we need to awake as many as possible, it has to be now or never, their overhaul beliefs as a mass will affect all of us on this plane, no matter how awake we think we are. We can take individual action, but you cant escape the masses, or the direction many of us will be forced to take.

This is belief in action, but its not a truth.

regards
roman

[Cidersomerset]

We have a name for every health condition that there is, believe in it, then its yours, you shall own it, but its not the truth, its a belief.

Thats something Ion says ..there was no disease untill we named it ......I fully understand the 3 D world and all the lies and intrigues going on...

I post them everyday !! and I am an athiest as far as religion goes..... The Ion material is not about religion it about who we really are but

some will have a differrent view on that , I fully except billions of us are manipulated thru religion ,governments, media and crooks every day

so its nice to be able to communicate with like minded people on forums like this....Normally down the pub such views are hard to express and

develop....

[Alie]

Isn't it just hard enough to know ourselves? How in the heck do we as individuals fit into the universe? We are seeking to know this truth - I am.

When we say awakening, we are using that to express many levels/dimensions/selves of awakening, I presume ... awakened to the truth.

I think awakening is like a chakra awakening. Root to crown. Steve, perhaps that info from Caroline about the universe being in each cell is the awakening of the crown chakra (or the chakras beyond).

So, if I don't grasp truth, then I really can't grasp anything about myself except that which is primal. And so I seek to know.

My conclusion (which may or may not be your point to the thread, RomanKWT) is that I must seek truth in order to know myself. And I get to enjoy the process of discovery --- which can be as detailed or simple as I want to make it. My truth should not affect your truth unless you are on the same "wavelength".

[ROMANWKT]

Hi Cidersomerset

The technicalities of what you are saying is not a truth but a belief about the subject, I also could not give a dam what Dr Carolyn Dean thinks, that her belief. what I am interested is the person that answered this post, and what he/she thinks, I see you had something that came to you when you read it, that's what I wanted, its what you think about belief and what is truth.

Thank you Cidersomerset

regards
roman

[ROMANWKT]

Posted by Alie (here)
Isn't it just hard enough to know ourselves? How in the heck do we as individuals fit into the universe? We are seeking to know this truth - I am.

When we say awakening, we are using that to express many levels/dimensions/selves of awakening, I presume ... awakened to the truth.

I think awakening is like a chakra awakening. Root to crown. Steve, perhaps that info from Caroline about the universe being in each cell is the awakening of the crown chakra (or the chakras beyond).

So, if I don't grasp truth, then I really can't grasp anything about myself except that which is primal. And so I seek to know.

My conclusion (which may or may not be your point to the thread, RomanKWT) is that I must seek truth in order to know myself. And I get to enjoy the process of discovery --- which can be as detailed or simple as I want to make it. My truth should not affect your truth unless you are on the same "wavelength".

Hi Alie

Firstly we all are on the same wave length, its called our consciousness, if we could but clear the belief garbage within us, we would all be talking to each other with our minds. I say seek all you want of what you call the truth, but the understanding is that it will become your belief eventually, so seek find, dump, if it does not suit your purpose.

Thank you Alie

regards
roman

[Sebastion]

Hi Roman:

It's good to see you posting again!

Seems to me that everything is just a "program" that's running and perpetuated by the belief systems of the masses. I reckon when enough "Neos" start realizing that and awaken to that fact, the system will be overcome. Until then, we do what we can.

[Cidersomerset]

Mind creates what you believe, what you have created with mind is not a truth, its a belief. You cannot change the Matrix, you can only manipulate it, within it, you can add nothing, you manipulate of what is, but its not a truth.

This is the quote that made me think of Dr Dean ,I think it might be that each individual persons universe is already programmed into your cell like a holographic tenplate.
There is no such thing as time , just one vast now and the past and the future are going on similtainiously, so ineffect you cannot change the matrix only manuipulate it
as you said...

Ali..

I think awakening is like a chakra awakening. Root to crown. Steve, perhaps that info from Caroline about the universe being in each cell is the awakening of the crown chakra (or the chakras beyond).

That makes sence....But its mindblowing to me....Steve

[ROMANWKT]

The Universe being in each of ones cells is part of our DNA codes that uphold our physical reality here in the Matrix.

regards
roman


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There are billions of cells/neurons in the human, that even consciousness is in question, as all these cells and neurons create a spacial (space) effect to us as a feeling of universal consciousness.

[ROMANWKT]

It is said that without belief you will not survive in the Matrix, you will not find the food that you need, you will not find the water that you seek, you will not create the rain for your crops.

You will not make it proper in the system that we support, you will believe in their limitation for you.

You as a community will starve from all that is, if the belief of the community needs is not there.

You will not move forwards and grow if the belief towards a goal is not there.

You're existence will be static when you don't choose your road by belief.

All that you will attain while here, will be because of your belief.

HUMAN POTENTIAL IS THROUGH BELIEF. Have you chosen, or was your life and servitude chosen for you??

regards
roman

[<8>]

The only real truth is who you already are.

Know thyself and the rest will unfold, is perhaps the most important statement ever made, (as a thought that is)
This goes against what most of us are conditioned to think, because "The TRUTH IS OUT THERE" ...RIGHT??
So our mind keeps us running the hamster wheel gathering more information (left brain)
But it's not all for nothing, it's to wear us out and if you're lucky you stop and start to go within yourself, where the only truth was all along.
And you might get these last years of your life in harmony and peace..


..8..

[ROMANWKT]

You have to clear yourself from limiting beliefs if you are going to expand you potential, you have to create a clear vessel to impose new potential through your visualization and eventual belief.

Use this https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...onsense-part-1 to create a belief in clearing, then when mastered, dump it.

You are and can be and do and have it all, as long as you believe, but its not a truth, its your creation using your mind, which will create the belief, which will become manifest for you here, but that's a belief in truth and truth is a belief.

regards
roman

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Posted by <8> (here)
The only real truth is who you already are.

Know thyself and the rest will unfold, is perhaps the most important statement ever made, (as a thought that is)
This goes against what most of us are conditioned to think, because "The TRUTH IS OUT THERE" ...RIGHT??
So our mind keeps us running the hamster wheel gathering more information (left brain)
But it's not all for nothing, it's to wear us out and if you're lucky you stop and start to go within yourself, where the only truth was all along.
And you might get these last years of your life in harmony and peace..


..8..

Well said 8, that exactly it.

[Mozart]

Posted by ROMANWKT (here)

The only truth is ZERO state, a nothing, all else is added, a belief becomes a truth for somebody, its a belief, its not a truth.

<snip>

God is not a truth, one may be psychologically more stable in an emergency for instance by believing in a support by a God, but it not a truth, its a belief, and a belief in a God has made us all to be manipulated, and its not a truth.

Nice post, Roman. I don't have time to fully respond to your fun brain teaser of a post, but I'll comment on a couple of things.


It's a common misconception that what reality is and who/what we are emerges from a "ZERO state, a nothing" when nothing could be further from the truth ... and such a truth exists independently from anyone's perception of that truth.


The apparent "zero state, a nothing" is really the field of Unity, the Source Field from which we all emerge into the worlds of maya in which we get to learn all sorts of lessons through experiences that are shaped by the beliefs that we hold dear in our minds.


So you are right, Roman -- beliefs create your reality, just like how Seth in the Seth Material says repeatedly: "Your beliefs create your reality".


But we DON'T emerge from nothing -- we emerge from a Unity Field, a Source Field that is called all sorts of names ... God, All That Is, Intelligent Infinity, etc.


That is a truth that exists outside of our perceptions.

The system is designed to unify all of humanity’s beliefs for the system manipulation.

Yes, humanity has been very vulnerable to manipulation because of the strong orange-ray body (animal, which is 2nd density consciousness) overlay that is predominant in the bulk of society as we know it.


Animals, the 2nd density creatures, tend to follow leaders when they congregate together, so this trait has strongly influenced the human, 3rd density experiences in which we are supposed to individuate and grow strongly in our minds in our paths to discern truth from distortions.


Then when a human mind/body/spirit complex starts to peel away the layers of belief that shapes one's reality, one is reduced to the essential component of who we are -- which is that we are consciousness/spirit taking on temporal physical form on paths of learning/discerning truths in our efforts to peel off the layers of old, worn-out beliefs that once shaped our realities to reach the point of being able to graduate from the 3rd density experiences into our next level -- 4th density of experiences.


Again, 3rd density, 4th density, etc, exist outside of our belief systems -- in other words, they are true, whether you believe that, or not.


~Mozart

[<8>]

A good clip, my friend..

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=P-wX7KWOYGs

https://youtube.com/watch?v=P-wX7...eature=related


..8..

[ROMANWKT]

Posted by Mozart (here)

Posted by ROMANWKT (here)

The only truth is ZERO state, a nothing, all else is added, a belief becomes a truth for somebody, its a belief, its not a truth.

<snip>

God is not a truth, one may be psychologically more stable in an emergency for instance by believing in a support by a God, but it not a truth, its a belief, and a belief in a God has made us all to be manipulated, and its not a truth.

Nice post, Roman. I don't have time to fully respond to your fun brain teaser of a post, but I'll comment on a couple of things.


It's a common misconception that what reality is and who/what we are emerges from a "ZERO state, a nothing" when nothing could be further from the truth ... and such a truth exists independently from anyone's perception of that truth.


The apparent "zero state, a nothing" is really the field of Unity, the Source Field from which we all emerge into the worlds of maya in which we get to learn all sorts of lessons through experiences that are shaped by the beliefs that we hold dear in our minds.


So you are right, Roman -- beliefs create your reality, just like how Seth in the Seth Material says repeatedly: "Your beliefs create your reality".


But we DON'T emerge from nothing -- we emerge from a Unity Field, a Source Field that is called all sorts of names ... God, All That Is, Intelligent Infinity, etc.


That is a truth that exists outside of our perceptions.

The system is designed to unify all of humanity’s beliefs for the system manipulation.

Yes, humanity has been very vulnerable to manipulation because of the strong orange-ray body (animal, which is 2nd density consciousness) overlay that is predominant in the bulk of society as we know it.


Animals, the 2nd density creatures, tend to follow leaders when they congregate together, so this trait has strongly influenced the human, 3rd density experiences in which we are supposed to individuate and grow strongly in our minds in our paths to discern truth from distortions.


Then when a human mind/body/spirit complex starts to peel away the layers of belief that shapes one's reality, one is reduced to the essential component of who we are -- which is that we are consciousness/spirit taking on temporal physical form on paths of learning/discerning truths in our efforts to peel off the layers of old, worn-out beliefs that once shaped our realities to reach the point of being able to graduate from the 3rd density experiences into our next level -- 4th density of experiences.


Again, 3rd density, 4th density, etc, exist outside of our belief systems -- in other words, they are true, whether you believe that, or not.


~Mozart

Hi Mozart

I see you're quoting other people about something you supposedly know yourself, we are into mechanic again, and just because somebody has said so should mean more to me here than you own conclusion, I want to hear you, and by your example of what somebody had said, I believe that's what they believe, which is fine by me, its their choice.

When you turn off the mind and you are in a state of nothing, that's the zero state, all else outside of that state is your projection of your beliefs.

You create your reality by your projection of your beliefs in the matrix, and I did not know that Its a mind teaser when all is creation, created by mind, through your belief, then how could it be the truth?? when its just a creation?? and if the truth lies beyond the conscious state, so be it, what difference, its still all a mind/consciousness/////belief/truth, all nonexistent. lot of mechanics to a simple understanding.

regards to you Mozart

roman

[ROMANWKT]

Posted by <8> (here)
A good clip, my friend..

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=P-wX7KWOYGs

https://youtube.com/watch?v=P-wX7...eature=related


..8..

Thank you 8 she makes the point of zero state, and all else is outside of this is nonsense, belief/creation/truth/ NOT.

REGARDS TO YOU 8
roman

I hate bloody videos, means nothing to me, every one has an opinion, based on their belief, which is what?????

[Mozart]

Posted by ROMANWKT (here)

I see you're quoting other people about something you supposedly know yourself, we are into mechanic again,

Regards to you, Roman, as well. I like your politeness.


No, I'm not quoting other people. I'm stating things that are truths that exist outside of our perceptions ... and of my own perception as well, but what I'm saying is that my POV (others call it a "belief system") is that the evidence of the truths that exist outside of my field of perception is vast, so I have the choice of accepting those truths (per the Ra Material, for example) as facts of life as we know it in our universe, or not.


The Ra Social Memory Complex once trod their own paths of life in 3-D (both 3rd density and 3rd dimension, the former being a level of vibration and the latter being a location of vibration) and now they are up at 6-D with millions of years of conscious mental/emotional/spiritual growth.


So when they come in here and share with us information that's really amazing, paradigm-expanding and fitting tightly with facts of the Source Field as we now know it, we can either accept those truths of reality outside of our POV, or not. It does not matter either way that one chooses, as all choices are valid.


The key thing is that any belief system that if it is constructed of flawed perceptions, such a belief system will eventually crash and burn upon the hard rocks of reality.


Any belief system -- an expanded POV, for example, that takes in the best information available out there, no matter the source -- would endure the test of time if it's built upon good, reliable information from multiple sources, including one's own experiential-based information.


My POV is based on a number of sources and it's all based on the best information available out there -- and within myself, as well. I will discard in a heartbeat any portion of my POV if such a portion is proven to be not accurate or true.

When you turn off the mind and you are in a state of nothing, that's the zero state, all else outside of that state is your projection of your beliefs.

and I did not know that Its a mind teaser when all is creation, created by mind, through your belief, then how could it be the truth??

I meant "mind teaser" in a positive sense, in the sense of thinking of what you said. Nothing negative.


And when you "turn off the mind" -- such a thing is not possible. The mind, by nature, is always churning, turning; always on the move. So the trick is is simply to step out of the river of thoughts that the mind is and to go into that "zero" field that you mention ... but it's really not "zero" at all ... it's yet another field of energy that emerges from the Source Field, from which we all emerge.


And there's proof of that. The famous Faraday Cage experiment, in which the scientists shut down everything that could possibly vibrate in 3-D as we know it, yet when everything got shut down, the recording gauges went off the charts, big-time.


So the "zero" point field is really teeming with energy.


~Mozart