Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

[StarDust]

Posted by EnergyGardener (here)
This is my understanding of Human circumstances:

A. By the end of this year (plus or minus months) the CABAL and so-called elected leadership will be gone and liberated humanity will enjoy universal standing and commerce.

B. The Planned economic downfall will have started within 90 days.

C. ET/ED has and continues to clean-up the Earth and 4th+ Dimensioned beings that have ruled us for thousands of years. The TPTW no longer enjoys their financial and extra-dimensional powers over humanity; the grid and matrix (mind control systems) and chemtrail systems have already been substantially damaged and will be fully removed soon.

D. Thus, we are now fully capable with no further excuses for not stopping the madness now. Humanity itself will decide whether US Marshals & Military are mobilized prior to the economic crash and self-destruction of civilians against civilians as planned by TPTW.

1. ET/ED cannot enter our dimension currently at this time as we are capable of doing that ourselves.
2. Humans will create a much better standing for itself to immediately provide the necessary leadership and self-determination.
3. This is my personal opinion: Many humans are choosing to have Revelations play out; they will be dissatisfied if blood doesn't run deep and Christ doesn't descend out of the clouds.

a. If this happens, it is by group karmic choice to "learn" the consequences of refusal to read the obvious signs of enslavement and ignorance.
b. If this happens, it is by group karmic choice to Return-to-Source.

Thus, the level of human suffering (human population that remains at the end when new "good" bottom-up "human" leadership) after the collapse occurs is determined upon how well in the weeks ahead humanity can work together with civilian and military globally. We have time to accomplish that, but only by actual leaders.

There is no time or effort available to deal with responses by the Negatives and Critics.

Very nice summation. Spot on!

[Cartomancer]

On Red Ice Radio Cliff High is debunking all of this.

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio...RIR-120510.php

[crossroader]

I like this take on that...

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin...gi?read=239539

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by gripreaper (here)
Dennis, the "plan" first and foremost is to get one's personal house in order. This includes, as you have so eloquently stated elsewhere, food storage, home gardens, move assets from the big banks to local credit union's, get out of debt, etc.

Then, move out into our local communities and talk to other like minded people, and create local co-operatives, and begin to get involved in the local elections for sheriff, etc. Then, once your county is even remotely civil and trustworthy, take it to your state. Change is a bottom up prospect, not a top down.

Then, the other larger things, such as your Reset Button, Wade Frasiers energy initiatives, how to become sovereign, etc. don't seem to get much traction in the collective at this time. Historically, these types of initiatives come into play when things get really bad.

I know it's frustrating that we don't see more people upset and passionate about actually doing something, but that is human nature. Until the homeland security guys are standing at the front door, most of us wont do anything.

I agree with just about every word of this, 100%, but would modify one phrase, "Change is a bottom up prospect, not a top down." to "Change is both a bottom-up and top-down prospect."

I'd even say that the bottom-up is more critically important, but in a way like air is more critically important to our staying alive than water.

When I started researching for what ended up to be The Reset Button, I was only thinking top-down. Once the initial version was published, Occupy (coincidentally) started, and even erupted in the medium-sized (~90,000 population) town I'm in, so there was a local passionate group of people who demanded change, and I went to the local Occupy to tell them about The Reset Button. Luckily, I immediately met a very bright guy who happened to have been at Occupy Wall Street in New York, and had watched and helped it evolve. When I started to talk to him he recognized I was looking top-down, and "schooled" me that top-down was being abandoned, and that the great wave of energy emanating from Occupy was to reach every city, town, small town, and hamlet, and start a ground-up/community revolution/evolution - ignoring and abandoning the status quo, taking care of ourselves, and growing community. (The other gem from Occupy was the rejection of vertical governance in favor of horizontal - as horizontal as possible.)

I knew he was right. If your heart and mind are open to truth, truth enters instantaneously. I didn't argue with him, but I also knew he was not completely correct either. I knew there were things that could never* be touched from a ground-up approach. *("never" is not accurate, but remains far, far outside the scope of probable reality. Instead of just 10% of the population ignoring and abandoning the status quo, it would require probably 75% or more of the population to affect the biggest issues from a strictly bottom-up approach.)

The United States economy is currently built on the war-for-profit and imperialistic paradigm. A ground-up movement, even with 20% of the population participating (and that number would be astounding) would have no effect on that paradigm. Hundreds of millions more human lives would be taken by my country in other countries that the US deems as "strategic" or "critical to America's interests", or one of the other euphemisms used to grease the war machine's gears. With the high-tech tools of modern warfare, they need less and less "troops"/soldiers, so even starving off their recruiting from the bottom up is not going to be an effective strategy. There will always be willing mercenaries, and the psychology of "serving", "defending", "proud tradition", etc. will continue to work on others.

Monsanto alone is like a malevolent, rogue nation, operating under the protection of the USA. The Big Pharma and Big Ag empires are in a direct line of clash with a bottom-up movement, and the corrupt politicians will continue to pass laws making self-sustaining, self-nurturing, self-healing communities' activities illegal. The Big Boys, Godzilla and his brothers, won't be ignored to death. It's not a matter of not buying what they are selling. Not having an effective top-down approach when the community movement meets these malevolent forces will mean certain victory for the Godzilloids.

Another big problem for me personally, is that a strictly bottom-up approach - even embracing community - still feels inadequate and selfish. If we who care don't care enough to also ensure the well-being of those beyond community, who will?

Top-down alone would be inadequate and a temporary solution at best. Even if we get rid of the Financial Elite's current methods of infiltrating the governmental power structure, more avenues will be discovered and exploited when they need them. A top-down approach like Phase I of The Reset Button would also nurture a bottom-up approach, even if that wasn't the direct intent. But I am convinced that if the average person doesn't make the personal, internal changes necessary to nurture a bottom-up, personal-through-community approach, and simply uses a top-down approach as a crutch, panacea, or savior, that the malevolent sociopaths will simply regroup and figure out other ways to gain and maintain control.

My conclusion is that the ultimate solution is to combine a comprehensive bottom-up approach with a comprehensive top-down approach. I agree it is wise to abandon every top-down approach that has ever been tried so far - they don't work (because the strategies and plans are weak, incomplete, and piecemeal.) But that doesn't mean that a smarter top-down approach can't work to handle the part of the overall paradigm change that needs a top-down vector.

Dennis

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)

Posted by wynderer (here)
at that time i listened to an interview w/the authors of 'The Stargate Conspiracy,' who said that USA intel likes to observe & learn from groups who have fallen for the latest Messiah scam , & that they especially like to see how folks deal w/it as time passes & it becomes obvious that what the current messiah was saying is not true

Don't know if that's true or not, but I certainly would be far from shocked if it were. Thing is, if they are that interested in studying this dynamic, then they are also likely to be affiliated with the folks that orchestrate these things in the first place.

Posted by Bryn ap Gwilym (here)

Posted by wynderer (here)
another thought about the Drake frenzy -- the whole thing is very similar to the 'SourceA' stuff on OpenMinds forum [no longer active last time i checked]

at that time i listened to an interview w/the authors of 'The Stargate Conspiracy,' who said that USA intel likes to observe & learn from groups who have fallen for the latest Messiah scam , & that they especially like to see how folks deal w/it as time passes & it becomes obvious that what the current messiah was saying is not true

Hi.

Ie, and with every new version comes an improved storyline. It would seem that they are tweaking (hacking) every couple of months now & watching how it plays out (runs). Its uncanny how human behaviour & software can be manipulated into virtually any design the programmer wants. Makes you wonder if in fact life itself is nothing more than a SIMS game.

So isn't it just possible that the storyline is only being held together & allowed to play out / run because of the same people (programmes) jumping on and screaming "he's the real deal" while rallying around for support & attacking all who see through the scam every fews months?

Maybe the problem is closer to home than folk believe?

One thing you have to watch out for is falling into the trap that anyone who stands up is a double agent. That's self-defeating if no one from "our side" can ever unite us because we're so afraid of being gamed.

I guess that's where personal intuition plays a strong role, even though I know (watch PsyWar) they are constantly gaming us. We can't let that paralyze us.

Dennis

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Cartomancer (here)
On Red Ice Radio Clif High is debunking all of this.

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio...RIR-120510.php

On record here (note this!):

For the first time, I completely agree with Clif High -- especially re Fukushima (a potentially extremely serious global-impact problem happening right now) -- and his take on 'Drake' (he's right).

Here are Red Ice Radio's notes to the broadcast:

Clif High - Hour 1 - The "Mass Arrests" Claim, Fulford & The White Dragon Society

May 10, 2012

Clif High, along with his associate George Ure, developed the Web Bot, or the Web Bot Project in the late 1990s. It's an Internet bot software program or a web spider that originally was designed to predict stock market trends. Eventually it developed into something different. Now it's claimed to be able to predict future events by tracking keywords on the web.

In the first hour of the program Clif gives his take on a story of coming "mass arrests" being told about by author and speaker David Wilcock and whistleblower and alleged insider "Drake." They say that top military brass in the Pentagon have secret plans to arrest people in high places. This means corrupt politicians, bankers and those who have subjected people to financial tyranny.

Connected to this story is also Benjamin Fulford, a former writer with Forbes magazine. From Japan, he's been reporting and writing about the Yakuza and the "White Dragon Society" and their supposed opposition to the western royal families and the Illuminati. Tied into this is also material about how the severity of the Fukushima nuclear disaster is being downplayed. Listen to this program to hear Clif High's opinion on these things and much more.

[kk4aei]

and we agree with both Bill Ryan and Clif High.

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Until people become self-governed, our civilization will not be transformed, as stated in the dedication to Democracy Is Self-Government (http://word-foundation.org/PDF/DISG.pdf):

"Dedicated with Love to the Conscious Self in every human body; and, with the hope that in becoming individually self-governed the people will establish Democracy as Self-Government in the United States of America.

The accomplishment of this hope will prevent the almost certain destruction of this civilization."

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Through prayer, meditation, contemplation, one can 'reprogram the matrix', but one must begin with oneself. This is summarized in the PSCINET thread:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...216#post487216

[Hervé]

So...

... who's going to perform these guys' arrests now that they have been convicted?

Bush Convicted of War Crimes in Absentia

May 12th, 2012 by Yvonne Ridley


Kuala Lumpur — It’s official; George W Bush is a war criminal.

In what is the first ever conviction of its kind anywhere in the world, the former US President and seven key members of his administration were yesterday (Fri) found guilty of war crimes.

Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and their legal advisers Alberto Gonzales, David Addington, William Haynes, Jay Bybee and John Yoo were tried in absentia in Malaysia.

The trial held in Kuala Lumpur heard harrowing witness accounts from victims of torture who suffered at the hands of US soldiers and contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan.

They included testimony from British man Moazzam Begg, an ex-Guantanamo detainee and Iraqi woman Jameelah Abbas Hameedi who was tortured in the notorious Abu Ghraib prison.

At the end of the week-long hearing, the five-panel tribunal unanimously delivered guilty verdicts against Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and their key legal advisors who were all convicted as war criminals for torture and cruel, inhumane and degrading treatment.

Full transcripts of the charges, witness statements and other relevant material will now be sent to the Chief Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, as well as the United Nations and the Security Council.

[...]

Full article: http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/...s-in-absentia/

[StarDust]

Re: Bill Ryan's comment above...

Clif "High" is a self-described rationalist that has chosen the dark (his words, not mine..he even mentioned the dark twice in an hour). Accept his opinion for what it is - empty conjecture. He'd rather defame character than discuss the facts as presented by his opposition.

[StarDust]

Posted by crossroader (here)
I like this take on that...

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin...gi?read=239539

This was my favorite bit:

Which leads us to Cliff and his web-bot (ie. artificial intelligence/software application). Not that this blokes material (at times) is not incredibly entertaining, Mr. Highs message supports a fear based, low vibratory outlook on this reality (timeline). So what is his message, really?

Now, this is no attack on Mr. High but let me share some facts on this chap: respectfully, he and his web-bot spit out almost 100% duds. This is fact. His incredible stories about the entrenched elite, and financial calamities and riots in the streets and all this mad-max, its the end of the world as we know, stuff...crapola! The boogeyman exists only if you believe he or she does. How is the War on Scary (terror) these days?

Have you been paying attention? How many false-flags, attacks on big mama, attempts to kill millions, objects in space, have been thwarted in the past year + ?. Yeah, "intervention" is not 100% but it's right up there. And that is fact.

Now, this message is of course no attack on Mr. High personally, yet it is relevant to call a spade a spade. For someone who misses the mark almost every time, one must find his insults towards others very concerning. Remember, a Zebra never changes its strips.

[Jeffrey]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Cartomancer (here)
On Red Ice Radio Clif High is debunking all of this.

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio...RIR-120510.php

On record here (note this!):

For the first time, I completely agree with Clif High -- especially re Fukushima (a potentially extremely serious global-impact problem happening right now) -- and his take on 'Drake' (he's right).

Here are Red Ice Radio's notes to the broadcast:

Clif High - Hour 1 - The "Mass Arrests" Claim, Fulford & The White Dragon Society

May 10, 2012

Clif High, along with his associate George Ure, developed the Web Bot, or the Web Bot Project in the late 1990s. It's an Internet bot software program or a web spider that originally was designed to predict stock market trends. Eventually it developed into something different. Now it's claimed to be able to predict future events by tracking keywords on the web.

In the first hour of the program Clif gives his take on a story of coming "mass arrests" being told about by author and speaker David Wilcock and whistleblower and alleged insider "Drake." They say that top military brass in the Pentagon have secret plans to arrest people in high places. This means corrupt politicians, bankers and those who have subjected people to financial tyranny.

Connected to this story is also Benjamin Fulford, a former writer with Forbes magazine. From Japan, he's been reporting and writing about the Yakuza and the "White Dragon Society" and their supposed opposition to the western royal families and the Illuminati. Tied into this is also material about how the severity of the Fukushima nuclear disaster is being downplayed. Listen to this program to hear Clif High's opinion on these things and much more.

BUMP.

This interview was extremely refreshing and sobering - like iced coffee.

One thing that I want to bring up is about the disinformation being promulgated.

Clif says it just needs to be brushed aside and put in the BS bin.

It is important to look at the content of what is being pushed, especially if it's being pushed through several different avenues AND considering that disinformation is not only intended to confuse - but also to CONDITION.

Why?

[wynderer]

StarDust, re the 'fear based' -- i just found & posted a song -'The Wise Old Man...' that i found on D Icke's site on a 'Human Liberation Music Thread' [didn't really fit in other music threads]-- he has a couple of good lines about fear that i'd be interested to hear your take on [if you have time -- so many threads going]

Posted by StarDust (here)

Posted by crossroader (here)
I like this take on that...

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin...gi?read=239539

This was my favorite bit:

Which leads us to Cliff and his web-bot (ie. artificial intelligence/software application). Not that this blokes material (at times) is not incredibly entertaining, Mr. Highs message supports a fear based, low vibratory outlook on this reality (timeline). So what is his message, really?

Now, this is no attack on Mr. High but let me share some facts on this chap: respectfully, he and his web-bot spit out almost 100% duds. This is fact. His incredible stories about the entrenched elite, and financial calamities and riots in the streets and all this mad-max, its the end of the world as we know, stuff...crapola! The boogeyman exists only if you believe he or she does. How is the War on Scary (terror) these days?

Have you been paying attention? How many false-flags, attacks on big mama, attempts to kill millions, objects in space, have been thwarted in the past year + ?. Yeah, "intervention" is not 100% but it's right up there. And that is fact.

Now, this message is of course no attack on Mr. High personally, yet it is relevant to call a spade a spade. For someone who misses the mark almost every time, one must find his insults towards others very concerning. Remember, a Zebra never changes its strips.

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
One thing you have to watch out for is falling into the trap that anyone who stands up is a double agent. That's self-defeating if no one from "our side" can ever unite us because we're so afraid of being gamed.

I guess that's where personal intuition plays a strong role, even though I know (watch PsyWar) they are constantly gaming us. We can't let that paralyze us.
Dennis

Very valid point Dennis, and one that I totally agree with. Just in case I haven't made myself crystal clear about Drake, I don't for one second think he's a double agent, or some grandiose fraudster. I think he's most likely very well intentioned, but being played like a fiddle, having his own good hearted passions used against him.

[Chester]

Posted by crossroader (here)
I like this take on that...

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin...gi?read=239539

Clif High makes dozens of good points - recommend this interview highly - best to go into our future with both eyes open (if you still have both)

[Dennis Leahy]

Can someone summarize Cliff High's points, or (much better) provide a partial transcript where he makes his most salient points? I just can't listen to 2 hours of that.

Dennis

[Chester]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
Can someone summarize Cliff High's points, or (much better) provide a partial transcript where he makes his most salient points? I just can't listen to 2 hours of that.

Dennis

I really suggest listening to it - one can get a lot more from that - its why I like to listen to Drake even though we get the transcripts - you can hear things in the voice you just can't get in transcripts nor summaries.

[aranuk]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
So...

... who's going to perform these guys' arrests now that they have been convicted?

Bush Convicted of War Crimes in Absentia

May 12th, 2012 by Yvonne Ridley


Kuala Lumpur — It’s official; George W Bush is a war criminal.

In what is the first ever conviction of its kind anywhere in the world, the former US President and seven key members of his administration were yesterday (Fri) found guilty of war crimes.

Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and their legal advisers Alberto Gonzales, David Addington, William Haynes, Jay Bybee and John Yoo were tried in absentia in Malaysia.

The trial held in Kuala Lumpur heard harrowing witness accounts from victims of torture who suffered at the hands of US soldiers and contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan.

They included testimony from British man Moazzam Begg, an ex-Guantanamo detainee and Iraqi woman Jameelah Abbas Hameedi who was tortured in the notorious Abu Ghraib prison.

At the end of the week-long hearing, the five-panel tribunal unanimously delivered guilty verdicts against Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and their key legal advisors who were all convicted as war criminals for torture and cruel, inhumane and degrading treatment.

Full transcripts of the charges, witness statements and other relevant material will now be sent to the Chief Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, as well as the United Nations and the Security Council.

[...]

Full article: http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/...s-in-absentia/

Why not ask Drake. Unless you want to organise it.

Stan

[StarDust]

Posted by justoneman (here)

Posted by crossroader (here)
I like this take on that...

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin...gi?read=239539

Clif High makes dozens of good points - recommend this interview highly - best to go into our future with both eyes open (if you still have both)

But High also omits some very valid points as well. Here's an interesting critique:

http://www.thankyouwhiteknights.com/...wilcock-drake/

At first I did think he had some good points and sympathized with his views. But when I got close to the end I noticed one huge critical error. The Trillion Dollar Lawsuit with Keith Scott and Neil Keenan and help from Winston Shrout was never mentioned. Now from the start Cliff accuses David Wilcock as being uncritical, infering he thinks himself to be very critical. Well why Clif High did you conveniently leave out these people “Keith Scott, Neil Keenan, Winston Shrout and the proof David Wilcock gave on the Lawsuit ? ( Look under the title “THE LAWSUIT IS NOW A REALITY FOR ALL TO SEE“) This is a big provable peace in the puzzle that fits with the Mass Arrests. The Mass Arrests can and will only happen as told by Drake (and Sheldan Nidle) after the Legal action.

Now this below is my opinion based on information from Cliff High going back a few years.

This Cliff High guy is a shill who skew info to suit the Illuminati agenda. His talk months ago on the new CIA CASHLESS money system lead me to believe that. While in this recent talk above he also tends to believe life is meant to be tough, and supports that by his almost denial of the Law of Attraction. That belief is why I believe he can not come to terms with this whole story, so he just spouts of so many opinions-that support his beliefs. No critical fact checking as he seems to think he is so superior at, lol. What about the whole story of why WW3 has not happened? Could that be because their are good guys in charge as opposed to the way it was back when his father was in the Military during much harder and more Illuminati controlled times? I know this must be hard to think about if you say you are a hard nuts and bolts kind of guy, but why does he work with information analysis then? Is he paid by the CIA to do all this or just a geek with too much time on his hands? Who pays him to do what he does? All questions to think about when you think about how much time he must need to put into to do what he does.

I remember listening to him in 2009-10ish and thought he was very Doom and Gloom, so stopped following him till the last few months. Now it seems all the shills are coming out of the closet and showing their true colors. I think the purpose of this show was to stir up these people and cause more people to not support the mass arrests. Support comes in two ways with consciousness being #1. The power of prayer is scientifically proven. So I think Clif High is trying to now affect our supporting prayers, that can provable help create this reality. This is probably why I feel so strongly about my views here and have seemingly given back too match his strong words. Only thing is Clif Highs are seemingly intentionally flawed to affect our feelings. That is what I call a clever Psy-Op. This is their last tool. The Illuminati have done this since Biblical times to get us to create our own hell by living in fear. Well guess what? It does not work anymore. We are waking up en-mass and choosing love.

I would love to here this guy interviewed with all those he just talked about. Ben does not fear a grilling interview. I do not know why any of them did not go on this show, but can only suspect they knew something was not right. Ben stopped doing Rense, I heard because he was fear mongering about Fukushima. Last a message to Clif High I too do Aikido and if you need to let off some steam come on down.

[KiwiElf]

Drake, Wilcock... and now High - It is just someone elses interpretation. Create your own... one that works best for YOU

[Hervé]

Posted by aranuk (here)

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Full article: http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/...s-in-absentia/

Why not ask Drake. Unless you want to organise it.

Stan

I don't think it was part of Drake's plan to walk the walk. But if the Hague issues the orders, the RCMP would be glad to comply.