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[Cerridwen]

Posted by Zebra (here)
Laugh. Laugh and more !


Thank you Cerridwen, sorry I don´t have a disclaimer, you have to accept this as gratitude for a video that put a wonderful smile on my face. Life in the office today - Forum, fear porn Central -was quite the experience.

You're very welcome! I think the part when he asked the guys showed off theirs is when I laughed the hardest!

I am now, though. I am lovely

Yes Zebra, you are Beautiful!

[Debra]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)



Oi oi oi, I know my man boobies portrait was a bit in your face but that is a pleasant nightmare, if I ever saw one

Yes I "lurked" you out in the jungle ... actually handled yourself quite well
Thanking you kindly Blue crusader, I hoped you would jump in and help me out. Next time you feel like a bit of rumble in the jungle, give me q yell. We'll make it a party. Mwahahahaha!

I love this photo. That´s a prize.

I am now going to check out www.floppingout.com see what else they got

[Calz]

Posted by Cerridwen (here)

Posted by Zebra (here)
Laugh. Laugh and more !


Thank you Cerridwen, sorry I don´t have a disclaimer, you have to accept this as gratitude for a video that put a wonderful smile on my face. Life in the office today - Forum, fear porn Central -was quite the experience.

You're very welcome! I think the part when he asked the guys showed off theirs is when I laughed the hardest!

I am now, though. I am lovely

Yes Zebra, you are Beautiful!

Indeed ... actually all the Pub Patrons are ... missing those that are not here.

[Calz]

Posted by Zebra (here)

Thanking you kindly Blue crusader, I hoped you would jump in and help me out. Next time you feel like a bit of rumble in the jungle, give me q yell. We'll make it a party. Mwahahahaha!

Perhaps ... I am rather enjoying my retirement in the Pub however ...

[Debra]

Posted by Cerridwen (here)
Yes Zebra, you are Beautiful!

Ms Cerridwen, you are the sweetest witch I know

[Calz]

Posted by Zebra (here)

Ms Cerridwen, you are sweetest witch I know

... this one has a little 'tude as well ... tho I am in total agreement

[Debra]

Hey Calz, Cerridwen, Purple Lama (love your new shoes), you want to retire for a spell:



in this little biosphere. We can think about who to visit on the astral plane .. and bring back

p.s. I had a Chianski sighting the other day - he was in prime form, turned another thread into an art form - all about ''the thanks button''

Posted by Chinaski (here)
BALLS!!! not an honest poster among you in this thread!

aside from the posts i like or agree with, i'll thank...

-really long posts that i'm too lazy to read but are written by posters i otherwise respect and thanked by posters i respect.

-in threads where i have started an insidious trend of thanking everyone, and don't want to hurt anyone's feelings by leaving them out (1 member once said to me (and this member shall remain anonymous unless she/he wants to claim this comment) in response to all the annoying thanking she/he felt compelled to do, that the only way out would be to fake their own death and return as someone who never thanked anyone. i laughed for days over this. thank you anonymous)

-i thank people who thank me a lot, even if i don't really like their posts, because i don't want to hurt their feelings.

-i thank new members because i want them to feel comfortable here

-i sometimes wonder why those i thank quite often do not thank me, when clearly my post has been brilliantly funny or witty, and often times wonder if they are simply jealous of my God-given brilliance and uncanny ability with words

-i'm often annoyed with those that are stingy with their thanks, though i secretly admire them because now that i've become quite liberal with mine, i've become annoyed at what i feel has become a responsibility, or an obligation

-confession: i once wanted my thanks to mean something, and rarely handed them out, and even pictured the elated faces of those who had received my divine endorsement, ordering their spouses and family members to the computer to witness the miracle -- "look honey, ive been thanked by CHINASKI!!! bloody hell, i can die now in peace!" Bill Ryan has mastered this technique, and he must feel like God when he clicks that little button, he being about as stubborn with it as a toddler with their favorite toy. i tend to think he gets a queer satisfaction out of this. ( i would!)

-i hypocritically thank people who single me out for praise, even when i can't stand them

-when i start a thread, which i rarely do, i feel a compulsive need to thank each and every poster for participating in it, and if i discover that i have missed someone, i'm overcome by persistent feelings of guilt, sometimes imagining that person as an unstable, emotionally disturbed individual whose sensitivity might cause them to overdose on pills or jump over a cliff at the slightest feelings of neglect; and not only will i go back and thank them, i'll also single their post out for special attention, replying to and praising it as if it had been written by God himself, even if it was the sh!ttiest post ive ever read.

-sometimes i'll thank a poster i like when they're debating with another poster i don't like -- even when i don't necessarily agree with it -- just to be spiteful.

-last but not least... sometimes, when i write something especially brilliant, i wish i could thank myself; and often wonder about the relative intelligence of the forum if said post is not recognized for the inherent genius that is clearly demonstrated. if the post *is* recognized by the forum, it is a wonderful ego boost and i love sitting back and watching the thanks pile up.

*Hope he returns soon*

[Calz]

Yes ... he will post to the Pub soon

[Mike]

hey guys,

ol Chinaski is alive n well n kickin n will be back soon enough. i just finally got a functional computer after a series of scenarios that could have easily been lifted from monty python.

just posting this msg because it has been brought to my attention that there are a few of you lovely people that were actually concerned for my well-being, and i won't have people worrying needlessly about me. i have an enormous affection for you guys and *do* appreciate your concern, but please know that all is well

ive actually developed a few productive habits since my computer initially went down, and have been delicately nurturing them these last few weeks. ive been doing all that writing ive been threatening to do, and also attempting to get fit, with -- believe it or not--a degree of success. also, since my neighbors were struck dumb with my uncanny brilliance for house painting (just painted mine) ive received a few requests to do theirs, which i happily obliged since i just recently quit my job and am now in need of a few coins for bread n butter -- you know how it is. so ive been a little busy.

i expect to be back posting in a couple weeks or so. miss you guys and we'll chat soon.

[Calz]

Thanks for letting us now ... ya ol' Pubster.

You know you always have a spot for you reserved here at the Pub.

[PurpleLama]

[songsfortheotherkind]

Posted by Borden (here)
Stop it with the dirty talk, Songsy! Don't say I didn't warn you when Calz gets here.

Pfffft: if I was going to talk dirty...

If you're wondering, Songsy, for a man, the world turns to opium flavoured candy floss for a few seconds and then you want a cigarette or a sandwich. Then you call her a taxi and kick her out. No, no, I'm kidding. Not about the sandwich though.

*laughing* Or the cigarette.

Maybe this heart chakra experience is one of the blocks you've mentioned. If you're doing something that directly confronts those blocks (including astral projection) then surely you're identifying them more clearly. Isn't this a good thing? Just be careful ... I don't want you explosively unlocking everything and going all Dark Phoenix on us ... eek!

Hrm, now we get interesting. It would seem that I'm being called back to some intense energy practices because I'm actively seeking to create a different kind of dissociation between my avatar and my Self than I had previously; the old dissociation was a trauma response and I couldn't use it to good effect, except to play with the multiplicity thing. Recently I had a situation happen with the Triffid Hunter (for those unsure, he's my partner here) that triggered me so badly something happened that surprised and kind of disturbed me: I switched and a different aspect emerged. I had no idea that a) we could still do that or that b) it could happen if I got distressed enough and c) that our subconscious had organised itself differently than previously, which means I have no idea who that particular aspect was, although I liked her a lot when I woke up again.

So lots of valuable lessons were learned recently and I think it's got something to do with trying to trigger the astral capability again. So I'm having to map things differently: I think I'm being told 'choose your vehicle consciously' because there ARE parts of me that would really, really like to go right hand of god on a few situations, individuals and groups. I have to get that clearer before going into certain territories, I'm being shown, because I learned in the years of the subway station training all those years ago that in certain situations I absolutely would go my own particular brand of Dark Phoenix. It's one of the reasons why I never let my Self lose my temper until I was in my mid twenties, the things I saw in that place.

And now I'm beginning to dream again, and my dreams are laced with the shadows of old darkness that I'm working through- I'm not some frightened kid anymore and if I'm going to use this energy at any point I'll be doing it with utterly zero regret or doubt, so clearly, getting a handle on the heart chakra thing is a part of that. The dreams are showing me some very strange things...

[songsfortheotherkind]

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
I am familiar with what you call the cosmic draw. It can be dangerous if one doesn't have control over the rising energy, and I had not seen where there is a proper technique to address this, so, I made my own. (in my early twenties, go figure)

I can remember having a really strong connection with that energy when I was younger; apparently I leaked it all the time and that's why in part I had the experiences with the masculine that I had, which also had to do with past experiences of being powerful and repeatedly having my throat cut for it. I found it not ironic that the oracle handle got pointed at me in semi jest here, because I've been that before, and other things. The masculine and I have not danced well together in the past and this incarnation I'm being invited to get a handle on that. Right now it feels like I need to do it at bullet train speed and there are all these mundane and not so mundane things getting in the way. Torn between worlds, still having little idea how to balance them- or if that's even possible.

In order to pre-set the energetic pathways, one must focus first on the energetic exchange between the crown and brow chakras first,

*nodding* this has been a focus of mine for the past 8 months or so. The electric shock things come and go, although getting really refined in my diet seems to be making a difference there. Apparently the idea is for me to get more ghosty within this avatar in a way that isn't difficult as it was when I was dissociated previously- I'm aiming for intentional dissociation rather than trauma response. It's tricksy territory because there are quite a number of 'me's' that I can choose from when I get even a little further dissociated than I am now, so I have to keep the thread connected to that as well. Shifting up and down the chakras is something I've been practicing for awhile now and what I've noticed is that my area of difficulty is between the 3rd and 4th- the energy just doesn't like to do that bridge at all, unless I use the kundalini pathway up my spine and then flow *down* from the 5th to the 4th: doing things this way causes no problems whatsoever.

Now that I'm mapping it out in detail here, I'm wondering if this is a result of the dissociation I'm constantly naturally pointed towards as a practice. I wonder if the situation has more to do with a) our individual complex hybridisations and b) our purpose and intentions within our avatar.

See, I thought that I'd incarnated this time with such huge sexual energy and power that it was to engage the masculine that way, but it just has never, ever worked out that way in the physical. I have two lovers/partners in the energetic realms, one of whom is a long, long term partner who I experience as patiently waiting behind the veil for it to come down and for us to be reunited; my partner here in the physical is aware of my Otherkind partners and accepts that at some point things are going to be quite busy, but he's ok with that because he's yet another physical partner I have acquired that isn't interested in sex. It's always the same- starts off one way and goes the other, and I'm done with trying to figure that one out, so I'm following other paths with it now.

It seems I'm only built for pure Otherkind energies and that there's some issue with me bringing the physical into the extreme energies that I hold in the otherrealms. I've spent a long time trying to merge them but I'm now wondering if the lessons I'm getting on *increasing* the dissociation are connected to this as well. This would make the direction thing with the 4th and 5th make sense, at least to me. Everything I experience seems to point that way. I have been told so many times, by so many different kinds of individuals, including the kinesiologist that used to work on me knowing I wasn't human, that I am an anomaly here, that there's something about me here that just doesn't fit, that isn't going to no matter how much I try and that in trying I'm wasting valuable time that could be better spent doing what I'm better at doing, which partly consists of being wyrd and strange. lol.

The gratitude pathway flows *down* for me, not up, so that's something that caused me to get onto that flow of thinking I just wrote out. Even when I visualise the pathways coming up from Gaia, going into my feet and flowing the physical connection to me ( I think I've written before that I never send cords or roots from my avatar *down* to Gaia, I open the gates and wait for her to send them *up* and if I map the energy pathway that happens when I do that, the same thing happens- bypass the heart on the up route, and flow down once it's come up over my crown.

I just had a long phone conversation with a friend and got more info about that pattern in me, so it seems that this exploration is bearing good fruit. :D

I want to come back to this conversation when I'm back from my osteo appointment, because there are really good things you've said that I want to explore more. It would appear that my sui generis is leading me away from human expression completely now, including with how my succubus nature expresses itself. I'm exploring the notion that on those energetic levels, it's not going to work in connection with the physical masculine for me here and that I need to let go those old ideas and see what actually shows up.

once the pathways are established, then one can increase the energy in a balanced manner, increasing and increasing, slowly but surely, until the maximum is achieved, a plateau is reached. Then, one may use what you call the cosmic draw, and it will be cosmic indeed.

One starting from scratch and inexperienced may take years, and to try to do it without preparation will burn out upper chakras. This is what's done in many black magical practices, and a solitary practicioner (no pun intended) runs the risk of much confusion and distortion to try to short cut to the end result.

However, one of a positive orientation, one who is already familiar with inner energy work can probably master it in a matter of weeks, if not sooner. It's important to realize that the energy produced is far, far more than the human incarnation needs, therefore we should take the healing and wisdom that comes as a side effect, and gift the energy produced back into the higher levels, indigo and violet, and not try to push for anything for ourselves by attempting to harnass said energy.

I'm sure in the realm of sexual tantra there exists a methodology for the same thing, but for aliens incarnate, like us, I suggest the path I've illustrated. When I discovered the realms of tantra I was strongly pushed toward the spiritual practices and away from the sexual practices.

I understand now that I have an incarnational history of misusing sexual energies, so the higher me made sure that I understand now, that it was creator energy in the first place, a holy and hallowed energy, therefore it should be practiced in as pure a form as possible. My experience is quite rich, and modesty will now prevent me from saying more.

[songsfortheotherkind]

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
once the pathways are established, then one can increase the energy in a balanced manner, increasing and increasing, slowly but surely, until the maximum is achieved, a plateau is reached. Then, one may use what you call the cosmic draw, and it will be cosmic indeed.

*nodding* here's what I'm thinking I'm going to do: I'm going to enlist Pan and my Otherkind partner's assistance and see if there are things that I need to do on a physical level to align the otherrealms energy with mine while in the physical avatar. I was thinking today about this and very clearly got the image of the pale Twins in the movie that pretended to be the Matrix sequel: that ability is what I'm going for, I've had it before and I want it back. I kept mapping what they were doing and essentially they have a very very fluid and casual relationship with the physical avatars they were manifesting. That's what I want- that fluidity- which means, I think, creating a different relationship with the whole physical avatar process and how it works for me as a singularity. Achieving this while staying connected to my fundamentally sexual expression of the creator energy is the big game for me.

You mentioned in the beginning that you had to craft your own path in your early 20's- I think that this requirement of crafting our own path is definitely part of the process. I'm a sui generis, unique Being and I really need to follow my own guidebook. You've mentioned that recently too and I'm in absolute agreement.

However, one of a positive orientation, one who is already familiar with inner energy work can probably master it in a matter of weeks, if not sooner. It's important to realize that the energy produced is far, far more than the human incarnation needs, therefore we should take the healing and wisdom that comes as a side effect, and gift the energy produced back into the higher levels, indigo and violet, and not try to push for anything for ourselves by attempting to harness said energy.

heh, I'm not going for the human incarnation thingie, I'm aiming for otherrealms expressions so this might be the key; I'm also wanting to experiment and see if externalising the energy in particular ways works. Fundamentally I want to be able to gather a big ball of really high frequency and point it at the virus source, see what happens. This is one of the ways I can gather that kind of energy.

I'm sure in the realm of sexual tantra there exists a methodology for the same thing, but for aliens incarnate, like us, I suggest the path I've illustrated. When I discovered the realms of tantra I was strongly pushed toward the spiritual practices and away from the sexual practices.

I understand now that I have an incarnational history of misusing sexual energies, so the higher me made sure that I understand now, that it was creator energy in the first place, a holy and hallowed energy, therefore it should be practiced in as pure a form as possible. My experience is quite rich, and modesty will now prevent me from saying more.

Interesting, your perspective and experience. I used to go for the holy and hallowed but I'm learning to accept that I'm apparently not that kind of creature, or that for some reason this experience is not part of my own here; I am learning to be peaceful and accepting that for some reason, that way of Being just isn't on my radar and I'm not going to look for it anymore. If it happens then I'll be surprised and intrigued; I'm no longer convinced that such a thing happens here for Beings like me, or maybe it's just a me thing. I'm aware of the profound connections I experience in the otherrealms and yet I still could not describe them in the words you've used; it's more... *waves hands* Other, horns and falling through worlds and interlocking wings and tumbling through frequencies with purring noises and delighted roaring, wide open gates and minds and feeding and exchanges and love that has less.. *circles hands*- fragility, do you know what I mean? I've looked into some of the tantra practices and have fallen off my chair laughing at Pan's quizzical expressions at the heartfelt staring into each other's eyes and suchforth.

Urhg, I keep re-reading this and it keeps reading as possibly dismissive or similar of your path; it's absolutely anything but that, I fully respect and appreciate your experience of both finding your way and what you found there. In some ways I'm envious, you seem to have found things that I thought I was here to experience and am accepting now that I'm not; I was actually trying to simply convey that some of what you talk about are things I understand conceptually but not experientially and why this is so.

It's a different process with think-feeling, so apparently I just suck hugely at the expressions more described as spiritual. I'm learning to accept that and find joy in it, while utterly accepting that it's a different experience for others. I'm enjoying the process of discovering my own way and am at the same time honoring the sadness that I feel at having to leave some ideas behind: while I have carried these as truly as I could, the concepts simply appear to be revealing themselves as not really mine and I'm working through the process of putting them down without regret.



This is really helping me get some things sorted. Thankyou so much for being prepared to share it with me. Aliens incarnate, indeed...

[Borden]

This may not be very relevant, but I need to express it to my fellow pubbers ...

I went and saw Avengers with my brother yesterday. He is as much a long time Marvel geek as I am. We left the cinema very, very, very happy. If you haven't seen it, and even if you know nothing about the characters I cannot recommend it highly enough. It's enormous fun, and has a lot more big laughs than you might expect.

Hang on ... maybe it is relevant. Right, Pub Club, let's get our act together! We all need to get to the gym and get some spangly costumes sorted out. Make mine Marvel! Excelsior! And so forth.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=bkBg_ULvwCY

Nuff said.

[songsfortheotherkind]

Posted by PurpleLama (here)

[Borden]

Hey Chinaski ...

You think you can just waltz back in here like nothing happened when I know you've been posting in other threads? Is it because this thread has put on a few pounds? Is this thread not blonde enough for you? You're all the same.

Seriously though, your post in the thread about the 'thanks' button was first class and hilarious. Much giggling occurred here.

[Calz]

Posted by Borden (here)
This may not be very relevant, but I need to express it to my fellow pubbers ...

I went and saw Avengers with my brother yesterday. He is as much a long time Marvel geek as I am. We left the cinema very, very, very happy. If you haven't seen it, and even if you know nothing about the characters I cannot recommend it highly enough. It's enormous fun, and has a lot more big laughs than you might expect.

Hang on ... maybe it is relevant. Right, Pub Club, let's get our act together! We all need to get to the gym and get some spangly costumes sorted out. Make mine Marvel! Excelsior! And so forth.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=bkBg_ULvwCY

Nuff said.

Yep.

I posted something in H&N after taking my family.

More than once I was laughing so hard it brought tears.

[songsfortheotherkind]

[Calz]

Posted by songsfortheotherkind (here)

Posted by PurpleLama (here)

Traveling back in time yous makes me feels ...