Welcome to The Pub At the End of the Universe.

[songsfortheotherkind]

Posted by Borden (here)
Blimey, how did this happen? Me and PurpleLama are having a Jesus-off! May the best Messiah win!

*bent over the keyboard, laughing*

a jesus-off! Oh, the best lol in ages, Odin's socks, I miss laughing with you!

awesome stuff.

[PurpleLama]

[PurpleLama]

[PurpleLama]

[Calz]

Posted by PurpleLama (here)

I almost used that one earlier ... and settled for "jesus toast" instead.

[Borden]

Ding ding! "Hell ... level eleven" ... (the elevator doors open) ... "Hello, PurpleLama and Borden ... ooh, we've been looking forward to seeing you lads for a long time!"

Oh well ... in for a penny in for a pound ... may as well be hung for a sheep as a ... oh, never mind.









Lastly ... another incredible sighting. We do indeed live in an age of miracles.




(Sorry, Jesus ... I didn't mean it ... PurpleLama made me do it!)

(Bloody hell! Right after I posted this I refreshed the front page and saw that the pub thread is flanked by two threads about Jesus! It's a sign! It must mean he's on our side, right? Yeah ... that's what it means. Yeah. Good. So we've got that going for us. Excellent.)

[songsfortheotherkind]

Things may be moving very quickly now that I have gotten clear on what it is that I want to do: we are looking at a house tomorrow that is available until the first of October, fully furnished, smaller than this place so less work, with a lovely garden, and $70 a week less than this one. If we get it the owners are leaving on Friday, so we'll be able to start moving in on Saturday. :D I will be in deep throw away mode, because I want things very simple and we'll only be taking what we really, really want from here- everything else will be given away. I want a reboot. I've got my friend T here at the moment and I've been downloading big time, so she's been sitting here listening to me map what started today with the 'exodus' post. It's getting clearer and clearer, I am so energised and delighted, because it feels like I've been set free of the misery of thinking that the rest of the globe has to level up before anything interesting is going to happen, or that some Being/s are going to have to take on the responsibility of exterminating over nearly 7 billion individuals- and that just doesn't sit well with sui generis, so that's not an option either. No, what seems to be the thing to get peaceful about is leaving the planet when Gaia leaves, which is fine by me- I'll be in awesome company and have amazing adventures in new environments to look forward to: I've never assisted a *planetary* sized Being 'walk in' before, heh heh heh...

I am so excited with this path- a larger Noah's ark deal, lol, or so it would seem: if *you* were Gaia would you leave your Art behind? We're in a situation where there are some fundamentally incompatible frequencies and either we go or they go, so it will be interesting to see what will happen: either there's a shift, or the howlers will eat everything, we die, then they die because there's nothing left to eat. The planet may or may not be inhabitable at that point. It seems pretty simple to me. I'm going to hold out for the shift, because death by howler and stupidity would be really annoying.

As for the idea that this dimension is a lower level kindergarten, I will pass by that one, so profoundly insulting it is to Gaia that I have no interest in engaging it. Suffice to say that tis interesting to discover the many different perspectives and frequencies, and to joyously hat tip the right of all Beings to their preferences, perspectives and the creative ability to craft whatever reality and experience suits them as Beings: seeing and experiencing things differently, even profoundly differently, is not a problem in my world. I just see it as the canvas of new possibilities: some possibilities I resonate hugely with, others I do not. This is all good and wonderful.

*dances off*

[songsfortheotherkind]

[PurpleLama]

Posted by Borden (here)


(Sorry, Jesus ... I didn't mean it ... PurpleLama made me do it!)

This actually works pretty well as a "Get Out of Hell Free" card. You'd be surprised.

[PurpleLama]

[Cerridwen]

One of my favorite episodes

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=vKvURliwsfY

[Calz]

Posted by PurpleLama (here)

Posted by Borden (here)


(Sorry, Jesus ... I didn't mean it ... PurpleLama made me do it!)

This actually works pretty well as a "Get Out of Hell Free" card. You'd be surprised.

... well then ... in that case ... *rolls up sleeves*

[PurpleLama]

[PurpleLama]

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Calz, the "Tah-Dah!" was especially awesome. FTW.

[Borden]

I agree Calz ... the 'Ta Dah' one just made me laugh like an idiot.

Okay then, I'll leave J.C. alone now. There's no fun in a fight with someone who just turns the other cheek.

I think these are nice.

[PurpleLama]

[PurpleLama]

I do wonder, could not a thought of the mind virus not be seen as the virus, itself?

Would one of it's primary modes of operation not consist in the corruption of the very things that could be most helpful it the exposure and removal of the virus, itself?

[another bob]

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
I do wonder, could not a thought of the mind virus not be seen as the virus, itself?

Would one of it's modus operandi not primarily consist in the corruption of the very things that could be most helpful it the exposure and removal of the virus, itself?

You're getting warm, Brother!

Ego-mind will congratulate itself on how well it's doing transcending ego-mind. It will be right there in the front ranks, battling itself for the glory and honor of . . . yep -- ego-mind!Ego-mind (aka "the virus") can co-opt even your most profound realizations, taking the credit for how well it's seeing through and "hacking" itself. In fact, the very movement and impulse to fight the virus is prompted by the virus itself -- that's how it survives so well, by ensuring that a perpetual state of war exists (not unlike certain governments). The last thing it wants is to become obsolete through lack of attention. The last sound it ever wants to hear is silence.The mind which falls into its inherent and prior silence is not interesting to the ego-mind, which thrives on conflict. Consequently, sages and shamans recommend cultivating the discipline of inner silence.

"The grand trick of those sorcerers of ancient times was to burden the flyers' mind with discipline. Sorcerers found out that if they taxed the flyers' mind with inner silence, the foreign installation would flee, and give any one of the practitioners involved in this maneuver the total certainty of the mind's foreign origin." ~Don Juan Matus

"Whatever happens in consciousness is purely imaginary, a hallucination. Therefore keep in mind the knowledge that it is consciousness in which everything is happening. With that knowledge, be still, do not pursue any other thoughts which arise in consciousness."
~Sri Nisargadatta


The two quotes above coincide in describing the method of liberation, but it is not a path most will undertake, because of the tremendous discipline involved. In the Bhagavad Gita, Krishna told Arjuna that, out of millions, only a few will seek for the truth, and out of those who do, only a few will realize. Even given these slim odds, however, what is the alternative? To be a slave? If one is earnest enough in their desire for freedom, they will do what it takes, even unto death. In fact, it's precisely that death that the mystics and realizers throughout the centuries have spoken of as the price of admission -- to die to the mind.


Question: "It is said that the Self is beyond the mind and yet the realisation is with the mind. The mind cannot think it. It cannot be thought of by the mind and the mind alone can realise it. How are these contradictions to be reconciled?"

Ramana Maharshi: "Self is realised with mrita manas (dead mind), that is, mind devoid of thoughts and turned inward. Then the mind sees its own source and becomes that."

[Carmody]

Posted by another bob (here)

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
I do wonder, could not a thought of the mind virus not be seen as the virus, itself?

Would one of it's modus operandi not primarily consist in the corruption of the very things that could be most helpful it the exposure and removal of the virus, itself?

You're getting warm, Brother!

Ego-mind will congratulate itself on how well it's doing transcending ego-mind. It will be right there in the front ranks, battling itself for the glory and honor of . . . yep -- ego-mind!Ego-mind (aka "the virus") can co-opt even your most profound realizations, taking the credit for how well it's seeing through and "hacking" itself. In fact, the very movement and impulse to fight the virus is prompted by the virus itself -- that's how it survives so well, by ensuring that a perpetual state of war exists (not unlike certain governments). The last thing it wants is to become obsolete through lack of attention. The last sound it ever wants to hear is silence.The mind which falls into its inherent and prior silence is not interesting to the ego-mind, which thrives on conflict. Consequently, sages and shamans recommend cultivating the discipline of inner silence.

"The grand trick of those sorcerers of ancient times was to burden the flyers' mind with discipline. Sorcerers found out that if they taxed the flyers' mind with inner silence, the foreign installation would flee, and give any one of the practitioners involved in this maneuver the total certainty of the mind's foreign origin." ~Don Juan Matus

"Whatever happens in consciousness is purely imaginary, a hallucination. Therefore keep in mind the knowledge that it is consciousness in which everything is happening. With that knowledge, be still, do not pursue any other thoughts which arise in consciousness."
~Sri Nisargadatta


The two quotes above coincide in describing the method of liberation, but it is not a path most will undertake, because of the tremendous discipline involved. In the Bhagavad Gita, Krishna told Arjuna that, out of millions, only a few will seek for the truth, and out of those who do, only a few will realize. Even given these slim odds, however, what is the alternative? To be a slave? If one is earnest enough in their desire for freedom, they will do what it takes, even unto death. In fact, it's precisely that death that the mystics and realizers throughout the centuries have spoken of as the price of admission -- to die to the mind.


Question: "It is said that the Self is beyond the mind and yet the realisation is with the mind. The mind cannot think it. It cannot be thought of by the mind and the mind alone can realise it. How are these contradictions to be reconciled?"

Ramana Maharshi: "Self is realised with mrita manas (dead mind), that is, mind devoid of thoughts and turned inward. Then the mind sees its own source and becomes that."

I JUST put the prequel to that, in another thread.

Here it is:

Posted by Carmody (here)

Posted by Carmody (here)
It is a simple fact of human psychology that the less the reach of a given person's intellect... the greater the desire (and projected fears) within... and thus the 'need' to label things, to define items and concepts into a form of certainty that is held to be inviolate. To create within the psychology a outline of projected certainty that reflects back a feeling of knowing and thus a form of safety.

This helps explain the media bias as a form of manipulation of the general populace, and the manipulation of the general populace via science and religion. Manipulate in the backdrop of the given situation, while dripping a reality into existence by responding to their 'needs'. needs Which are real, imagined, or created into existence.

Essentially, you help a confounded and upset child to suckle, by presenting it with a form and feel of a teat.

It really is that simple, as our logic and thoughts form from a source which is the hindbrain, which is the baseline function of the animal/body... and that is autonomous and outside of conscious thought.

Thus the very vast majority of people don't even know what the hell they are and how their brain works. And thus, their circle of logic is smaller than those who are aware of this..and thus they can be and ARE corralled and led to slaughter via this very simple aspect of human design.

If the general population where to confront this aspect of their mind and what it is, this would remove the certainties they have created in their minds, about what is real and what is not.....all would be in turmoil.

Thus, this must be avoided at all costs, via these thoughts not being allowed to take place in the mind. Up to and including killing anything that brings this idea and thinking, to them. Fear. Pain. confusion. Animal response.

A situation created by the feelings and emotions of the hindbrain, the place where the impetus and shaping of conscious thought ---erupts from.

Once again, it really is that simple and it has everything to do with this thread and the entire reason that this forum... exists.

How to be free?

Be conscious of this, in every waking and thinking moment.

For the rest of your life.

Wear it as a point and addition in every thought, 24/7. Even when you are sleeping.

And freedom..... WILL come.

Escape/surpass.... your hindbrain's enforced limit. Take the training wheels off your avatar.

I'm always reminded of the scene in the blues brothers where they go to see the penguin....

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6h...rs-penguin_fun

(Yootoob has removed all Blues brothers videos. period.)

[PurpleLama]

I had read bob's reply and immediately popped over to read your posts, Carmody. Fun.