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    Hi folks, my name is Ki and I'm kind of new here, (though I've been lurking for awhile)
    Anyway, I wanted to weigh in on this topic.
    I believe that ET's exist and the reason I believe that is because I have been an abductee for 55 years. Most of my memories are intact...I've just always known. (and somehow always knew it had to be kept secret)
    I can't speak for any 'good' or positive ET's, my experience has been only with the little grey's and one tall grey that I came to think of as my personal 'handler'...(as he was usually present at each of my abductions).
    My personal opinion is that if something creeps around in your house and steals you away against your will...that's kidnapping and kidnapping is a crime.
    I have spent a large portion of my life actively working at NOT being abducted.
    I think there must be postive/good ET's, but I have the feeling that they watch from the sidelines and don't impose their will on others.
    So, there's my 2 cents, for what it's worth.
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    Believing if ETs exits or not for me never has been a question, because every time I looked in the mirror I had a hard time defining what I saw in the mirror as though I was looking at a face that I did not recognize. It took me a long time to figure it out, lets just say that ETs are we and that's all the answer I need.

    For those that try to convince themselves otherwise, many things that we value have nothing to do with something substantial or 3 dimensional instead is in the realm of the mind or the heart as we relate to the world around us, this physical body is just the outer shell. Remembering our origins will take you to many places and many worlds.

    Why are we here? Since we all have originated from ETs lineages, at least in my opinion, then I guess we are now here to remember and help to liberate this world from the shackles of slavery. The saying," free your mind", becomes more than a cliche it becomes my purpose for living , also to free our hearts, those two combine will help to lift the veil and activate your memories of your past, present and future taking us further beyond the origins of space and time.

    For me every single second is an adventure as we are about to unlock the door to the yellow brick road. May all your journeys be fruitful , may all your questions be answer, may you see pass the man or woman in the mirror and find the real you.

    Many many blessings to all.

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    Quote Posted by Ki's (here)
    Hi folks, my name is Ki and I'm kind of new here, (though I've been lurking for awhile)
    Anyway, I wanted to weigh in on this topic.
    I believe that ET's exist and the reason I believe that is because I have been an abductee for 55 years. Most of my memories are intact...I've just always known. (and somehow always knew it had to be kept secret)
    I can't speak for any 'good' or positive ET's, my experience has been only with the little grey's and one tall grey that I came to think of as my personal 'handler'...(as he was usually present at each of my abductions).
    My personal opinion is that if something creeps around in your house and steals you away against your will...that's kidnapping and kidnapping is a crime.
    I have spent a large portion of my life actively working at NOT being abducted.
    I think there must be postive/good ET's, but I have the feeling that they watch from the sidelines and don't impose their will on others.
    So, there's my 2 cents, for what it's worth.
    love and light
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    Hi Ki -- just wanted to say Welcome, & thanks for sharing about being an abductee -- i am one also -- in general, when i post about this, i get ignored, or else someone just happens to post immediately afterwards some version of the theme that ETs are here to help us -- i also sometimes get told i am being 'negative' when i say anything about abductions -- i do like it that there are actually other abductees on this fine forum, who agree w/ me, & w/you, that abductions are not nice -- just plain wrong, imo

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    Quote Posted by frank samuel (here)
    Believing if ETs exits or not for me never has been a question, because every time I looked in the mirror I had a hard time defining what I saw in the mirror as though I was looking at a face that I did not recognize. It took me a long time to figure it out, lets just say that ETs are we and that's all the answer I need.

    For those that try to convince themselves otherwise, many things that we value have nothing to do with something substantial or 3 dimensional instead is in the realm of the mind or the heart as we relate to the world around us, this physical body is just the outer shell. Remembering our origins will take you to many places and many worlds.

    Why are we here? Since we all have originated from ETs lineages, at least in my opinion, then I guess we are now here to remember and help to liberate this world from the shackles of slavery. The saying," free your mind", becomes more than a cliche it becomes my purpose for living , also to free our hearts, those two combine will help to lift the veil and activate your memories of your past, present and future taking us further beyond the origins of space and time.

    For me every single second is an adventure as we are about to unlock the door to the yellow brick road. May all your journeys be fruitful , may all your questions be answer, may you see pass the man or woman in the mirror and find the real you.

    Many many blessings to all.
    Well said Frank. This knowledge is also found in Dolores Canon's material (books, etc.), that none of 'us is native' to a specific planet so to speak. But 'we lived' many lives on other planets other than Earth as well, in this vast Universe. That makes us, all aliens...

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    Quote Posted by cloud9 (here)
    Thank you for all your comments but somehow I feel I haven't gotten what I was looking for yet.

    Somehow I'm troubled by so many opinions here about what aliens or ETs are up to in regards of humanity evolution. I always wonder why every single time somebody says ETs are good, benevolent or more evolved, good in general and want to helps us, many get freaked out and almost yelling they state that's not the truth, they believe all ET races known to us so far have an selfish agenda...

    Perhaps I should change the question? Is there in your opinion one or more races out there who have some interest in our evolution? Which ones that you know of?

    I'm getting tired of all negative views about this issue, I believe if we just focus on that we won't be able to see the good ahead of us and never will get through the "bad" stuff.

    I think I've been receiving downloads of information while sleeping, a few times I've woken up in the middle of the night and I can see with the corners of my eyes many symbols around me that I can't recognize but they stay visible for a few minutes so I was wondering about it and I really hope this is a good thing because I don't get a bad feeling or anything.
    Is somebody else here getting this kind of thing?

    Thank you again for the wonderful replies.
    just a thought about focusing on the bad stuff, Cloud9 -- from your mentioning that i am guessing that you believe also that we create our own realities by what we focus on? like attracting like & that sort of thing?

    i think, from a benevolent ET point of view -- say, if they were out in space looking down at planet Earth -- i think they would be very wary of coming any closer

    to begin with, at any given moment there are millions of animals being killed, screaming in pain & terror -- an ET w/sensitive hearing would pick that up -- quite a few human screams mixed in w/that also -- then there is the pollution -- the dying oceans -- the dirty air -- all the mining, which to an ET up above might look like rape of this planet -- probably ETs can see the radiation from all the DU being used , & big radioactive patches where the bombs have been tested starting in the '50s -- then of course there are all the wars going on -- & all the prisons -- and so on & so forth

    this might explain why benevolent ETs seem to be keeping their distance [unless you think all the channeled stuff is really from ETs] -- i imagine from out there in space, this looks like a pretty dark & scary planet -- if like attracts like, i don't think we are attracting kind & loving ETs at this time

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    Wynderer I have a question for you concerning ETs and your outlook for mankind in the coming years as I have read many of your post.

    The reason is because even in the depth of hell there's always hope. Why are you convinced otherwise ? Why do you think all ETs are negative? If they wanted to have a hostile take over and eliminate the humans it would have already taken place. My theory is that there are both forces at work here those with a personal agenda and those who are here to help in the growth and development of the human race.

    I respect your views it is my sincere hope that we learn from each other and learn to see the world not only from our own individual perspective but also from the experience and perspective of others.

    Thanks for your time, blessings to you.
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    Quote Posted by frank samuel (here)
    Wynderer I have a question for you concerning ETs and your outlook for mankind in the coming years as I have read many of your post.

    The reason is because even in the depth of hell there's always hope. Why are you convinced otherwise ? Why do you think all ETs are negative? If they wanted to have a hostile take over and eliminate the humans it would have already taken place. My theory is that there are both forces at work here those with a personal agenda and those who are here to help in the growth and development of the human race.

    I respect your views it is my sincere hope that we learn from each other and learn to see the world not only from our own individual perspective but also from the experience and perspective of others.

    Thanks for your time, blessings to you.
    Hi Frank --

    Why do you think all ETs are negative?


    i've never said that i think that all ETs are negative -- i know i have written at least once that i think it is dangerous for benevolent ETs to come near Earth , as Earth is under the control of NWO-aligned ETs at the present time --also i have said that i define abduction as being done by negative ETs, & contact as being done by benevolent ETs, & that i have experienced both [N.B. --BOTH] -- i have some highly personal & close-to --home reasons for knowing there are benevolent ETs --

    The reason is because even in the depth of hell there's always hope. Why are you convinced otherwise ?

    i've never written that there is no hope --

    i hope i have answered your questions

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    Thanks wynderer for you clarification you see I did learn something. Words sometimes are a very limited form of expression of our ideas , emotions and experiences thus we do not always understand each other point of view. Thank you once again for your kind response.

    Many many blessings to you.

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    I know that ET's exist and are visiting/observing the planet we call Earth.

    The reason I know this is because someone close to me who worked with NASA for over 30 years told me directly that it is so. They are there, and have been there the whole time.

    I also am convinced that there are many extra-dimensional visitors here. And that we exacerbated this problem by detonating so many powerful nuclear weapons, which cause turbulence and actually tear holes, and tie knots in the space-time continuum. Its VERY SERIOUS BUSINESS.

    Like Frank above, I also know that I am not from here. This body in which I inhabit, is of this Earth. But I observe the planet with eyes of an outsider. An outsider with a mission though. When you are like this, it becomes glaringly obvious to you as you progress in age.



    Lastly, go to the beach, stand on the sand and look down. Pick up a handful of sand and let it run through your fingers. There are more stars in this universe alone than there are grains of sand on every beach on Earth. Think about that.

    That's just one universe.

    The scope of the creation is beyond mind boggling.

    It draws the breath from your lungs...and stills you to even think about it
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    Quote Posted by Hiram (here)
    I know that ET's exist and are visiting/observing the planet we call Earth.

    The reason I know this is because someone close to me who worked with NASA for over 30 years told me directly that it is so. They are there, and have been there the whole time.

    I also am convinced that there are many extra-dimensional visitors here. And that we exacerbated this problem by detonating so many powerful nuclear weapons, which cause turbulence and actually tear holes, and tie knots in the space-time continuum. Its VERY SERIOUS BUSINESS.

    Like Frank above, I also know that I am not from here. This body in which I inhabit, is of this Earth. But I observe the planet with eyes of an outsider. An outsider with a mission though. When you are like this, it becomes glaringly obvious to you as you progress in age.



    Lastly, go to the beach, stand on the sand and look down. Pick up a handful of sand and let it run through your fingers. There are more stars in this universe alone than there are grains of sand on every beach on Earth. Think about that.

    That's just one universe.

    The scope of the creation is beyond mind boggling.

    It draws the breath from your lungs...and stills you to even think about it
    loved your post, Hiram -- yes, the immensity & beauty of the infinitude of Universes is awesome!!

    now, if the neg ETs & ODs would leave us, human & non-interfering ETs alike, if the negs would leave us alone to get on w/the Grand Adventure of exploring & traveling out there....

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    frank samuel;
    Quote The reason is because even in the depth of hell there's always hope. Why are you convinced otherwise ? Why do you think all ETs are negative? If they wanted to have a hostile take over and eliminate the humans it would have already taken place. My theory is that there are both forces at work here those with a personal agenda and those who are here to help in the growth and development of the human race.
    i think wynderer is on the right track...my sense is that we have already been taken over by the negative et in colaboration with human scum...it is not however complete and they are doing their best to accomplish juast that with their de-population, nuclear experimentation plans and threats...they are not here physically because they don't tolerate the conditions here- coming from a different dimension, reptiles are surely such kind..in all of the sightings, noone efver stated they in fact hang around, they have their cronies to do the job for them...the good guys are good but don't stand a chance of being listened to, just remember the interview with the seargent guy (camelot archive, i forget his name) who served as an interpretor (us military) and communicated with the aliens who came in good faith...sad...but, we'll make it nevertheless - with a little help from above l
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    I don`t believe, I know they exist on many planes. Some as pure spirits and some as physical .

    If you want to look from highest point of view all are of God.
    All children. Some came earlier and some later. Some chose fear and some chose love as their bases to grow and evolve.
    Too bad that some are stuck in fear and do not wish to move on towards love since they would then eliminate all their pain and whatever the produced in their darkened minds and realities.

    Ultimately this phrase from Jesus (though roughly translated and easy to manipulate from religions) says that we shouldn`t be afraid of one who kills the body but we should be afraid of one who can kill the soul and body in hell.
    Now take this literary and you miss the whole point of phrase and truth . People in those times were severely limited with deeper understandings ,even we today are still.

    Jesus actually stated that ultimately only Creator has the power to dissolve the soul into pure energy. To erase its consciousness and bring it back to the energy.
    For Jesus`s listeners in those times it would mean that a person would die in worst circumstances ( realization of near death would make a hell of their lives) for her.

    SO knowing this truth, ultimately all this is a process. Even if the most cruel and evil entity or creature comes for you to take you down, they can`t do any actual damage beside killing your 3D body. Even if you`d kill them you would just eliminate their 3D body.
    If they are spirits you could just move them away of you in another dimension.
    Point is that nobody except Creator can destroy the soul and Creator is not in the mood of destroying souls that he created.
    Rather he is bringing all into harmony ,but since he placed free will for all, he will respect choices of some to remain in fear and destruction mode. But also he will respect a choice of ones whom wish to grow into Christ `s image which is an image of God. So if latter wish to be free from attacks of fear based ones ,God will happily grant them wish and protect them.

    No wonder why you can find in Bible written that we should leave revenge to God since he will know what to do with some of his children going rogue and in evil destructive mode to other children.
    Just like principal of a school can expel a kid because of their behavior in school,if they were molesting other children or doing bad stuff.
    An expulsion can work good for those trouble makers to see their errors and to make them think can they do and feel better!

    Anyways folks, there are two choices ,two ultimate ones LOVE or FEAR...
    I choose Love...
    And bless those who chose fear to realize that they can choose again!
    Love, love - and see what happens

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    nice line of thought but you've gone off topic ...a bit.. don't you think beren? l


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    nice line of thought but you've gone off topic ...a bit.. don't you think beren? l


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    Quote Posted by wynderer (here)
    loved your post, Hiram -- yes, the immensity & beauty of the infinitude of Universes is awesome!!

    now, if the neg ETs & ODs would leave us, human & non-interfering ETs alike, if the negs would leave us alone to get on w/the Grand Adventure of exploring & traveling out there....
    You bet Wynderer! I'll be right beside you when that day comes. If we could just sail those seas of stars....

    But for the reasons you describe, there is a rocky road to that destiny...and there are "folks" putting the rocks in the road intentionally.
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    just a thought about focusing on the bad stuff, Cloud9 -- from your mentioning that i am guessing that you believe also that we create our own realities by what we focus on? like attracting like & that sort of thing?

    i think, from a benevolent ET point of view -- say, if they were out in space looking down at planet Earth -- i think they would be very wary of coming any closer

    to begin with, at any given moment there are millions of animals being killed, screaming in pain & terror -- an ET w/sensitive hearing would pick that up -- quite a few human screams mixed in w/that also -- then there is the pollution -- the dying oceans -- the dirty air -- all the mining, which to an ET up above might look like rape of this planet -- probably ETs can see the radiation from all the DU being used , & big radioactive patches where the bombs have been tested starting in the '50s -- then of course there are all the wars going on -- & all the prisons -- and so on & so forth

    this might explain why benevolent ETs seem to be keeping their distance [unless you think all the channeled stuff is really from ETs] -- i imagine from out there in space, this looks like a pretty dark & scary planet -- if like attracts like, i don't think we are attracting kind & loving ETs at this time
    Yes, wynderer,

    I truly believe we create our reality, that's why I try not to focus on negative stuff but also I believe every comedy has a tragedy and viceversa, what I mean by that is that events we clearly see as negative have positive in them and also all the way around.

    As I've said before, I haven't had ET experiences, dreams, I'm not an abductee etc, so it's hard for me to say but after years of reading so much stuff about the subject somehow I tend to believe there's a good reason for those events but we can't see it yet. Please don't get me wrong, I absolutely empathize with people who have been through those terrible abductions and it's almost unimaginable for me to comprehend such an experience but...

    Two years ago I started seeing the Steven Jones videos on you tube and at the beginning I was shocked by the intensity of the events narrated and all the implications, seen a real human being telling the stories rather than reading them from a book was quite something, also the fact that at least for me, contact with ETs was kind of "once in a life time" event, I didn't know much about people with years of frequent contacts.

    Steven Jones fought those contacts with a passion and he hated those beings who were imposing their will on him, one day and after much thinking about it he decided to look at the issue in a different way, he immediately saw changes during the following contacts, the interaction was different and he started to learn about all the whys he had.
    He doesn't call himself an abductee anymore, he is now an Experiencer.

    Now, he's able to look at the big picture and understand the reasons of the abduction phenomena, he's even happy to collaborate with the whole thing.

    Even people with bad experiences after deep hypnosis sessions can see the "real" events under a new light.

    Now, Steven Jones hasn't been the only one going through this change, Jim Sparks and other less known people too.

    Is it possible that due to the painful and very frightening experience, abductees go through a mind process that covers most of the experience and just the strong and painful part is remembered?

    What if they volunteered long ago to be the genetic sample of humanity through millennia and based on them the evolved ETs are measuring our progress?

    If this is possible, the whole abduction scenario would be looked at very differently.

    Now, I absolutely reject all experiments and abductions from people on earth, military or otherwise. I don't see any good reason for it and I think is just shameful.

    Wynderer, your point of view as how evolved ETs would see us it's just right on the money. I still have a hard time believing we will have a shift towards enlightenment or whatever based on the state of our planet right now but so many people are talking about it that perhaps it is so. We really need a big change.



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    I have seen many UFO's, glowing orbs, other dimensional beings and at least one ET who could materialize and dematerialize. My husband has seen ET's several times.

    So yes, I know there are ET's, other dimensional beings, and just about anything we can imagine most likely exists. Some are benevolent, some are not benevolent, and some are both, basically the same as humans. Our government and probably many other governments and also some non governmental agencies cooperate with different groups of ET's. Of course they don't tell us about it but there have been some whistle blowers.

    We are NOT inferior to even very evolved ET's and it irks me when people think they are so unevolved and helpless compared to ET's. Yes they may be more technologically advanced than we are but not more spiritually advanced. Humans have amazing abilities and only need to access them through searching for the correct method for them personally. For me it took leaving my body hundreds of times and travelling in many other dimensions. Undoubtedly there are other ways, but that was the way for me. The most powerful thing in all the universes and dimensions is LOVE, but not the love most people think of when they think of love. If someone doubts God's love when they see such widespread human suffering that's because they don't really understand what love is, but there is no doubt that God (the source) is LOVE. We humans have a huge capacity for love, and that give us a big advantage over many ET's. Of course there are ET races that also have that capacity but there are many that don't, at least in their incarnation in that particular ET race.

    I have had friends who have been abductees and I greatly empathize with those who find it abusive, and I agree that it IS abusive. I do wonder however if some of the ET's think it is ultimately a loving thing they are doing. But what they think doesn't matter as much as what YOU think and feel. We cannot know for sure the motives of others (unless you merge with them). Hopefully we can learn to trust our own inner core values and feelings and not worry about what anyone else thinks or tells us we SHOULD think. So your choice, as Beren said, is between fear and love. If you choose love you choose power and God. If you choose fear you choose disempowerment. But it's all just a temporary trip anyway in these physical bodies. Our ultimate and everpresent destination is to be merged with the Source, and all of creation is a part of the Source.
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    Default Re: Why do you believe ETs do exist and what are they up to?

    Dear NancyV, can you please share what kind of ETs or races were at Area 51? What kind are the ones working with the government?
    As I haven't seen an ET I'm very curious and I'd like to know about physical shapes, colors, etc. I've read so many testimonies from people who say they had had contact but other than the greys, not many other descriptions have been provided.
    Thank you

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    Default Re: Why do you believe ETs do exist and what are they up to?

    One could reply to this post with the question of "When is an ET not an ET'? Basically when it is some 'other' dimensional life form.

    Over a period of many years I have worked with abductees, I have memories of having been abducted, and a fascination with the paranormal.

    We literally are a multi dimensional being in a multi dimensional body.

    So to the original question- when is an ET not an ET?, when it is a part of that dimensional heirarchy- reptilian, grey, gargoyle, winged serpent, alien, time lord, ancient one, and other?? and the others present in many forms and experiences.

    Entities as they may also be called come in many forms shapes and sizes, they may present as an imaginary friend to a young child, get invited in through drugs, both prescription and illegal, or simply by a lonely or distraught individual.

    Once they take hold they can literally 'run your life' and I speak from experience. It took me fourty five years to find some one who not only understood what I was saying, however also to know how to deal with it. It then became a passion of mine to know and to work in that field.

    Many suicides will 'stay around' to make sure that their family knows that it wasnt their idea and that the voices in their head made them do it. Schizophrenia is a western medical diagnosis.

    Many children present with visits from imaginary friends during the night, and many abductees leave notes on their windows asking to be woken up before they are taken.

    Specific areas of Australia and Africa that I am familiar with have huge UFO activity as does Mt Fuji in Japan to name another.

    Perhaps some one can clarify the comment that I have been given that if we can photograph them they are ours and if we cant they are theirs??

    I could keep going.....

    Peace Love and Light

    Sheila

    Zacharien Sitchins { not sure of spelling sorry] the 12th Planet is also a good source of documented information on our ET predessessors or the 'Gods" as they were called
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