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[songsfortheotherkind]

Posted by Swan (here)

Posted by songsfortheotherkind (here)
It will be interesting to have Starkind, Anun and Otherkind all back in the same place again, and all the hybridisations of those elements... *big cheesy grin*

I would love to know more about starkind, otherkind, anun and anunaki. I am not well read on the subject, intentionally. I decided I prefered to let my own experiences guide my way. But I would like to read more from you...

I am so frustrated with time at the moment, because there are so many things I would love to be playing with and doing, the film about these histories being one of them. I'm hoping to organise time over the next day or so to get some major writing done. I *so* want to talk about all this...

[songsfortheotherkind]

Borden, please come home: may your journeys in the otherrealms bring you good stuff and then you tell me about it.

Your silences feel like they go on for a year. I'm glad that this one isn't because we're throwing lightsabres at each other.

I still miss you though.

[RunningDeer]

Posted by onawah (here)
PS Songs, have you seen WCBD's post here yet?
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...pening/page726

Hello, Onawah

Thank you for your kind gesture. It's deeply felt and appreciated.
Peace,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer

[RunningDeer]

Thank you, Songsie.

I'll treasure what you said about Michael's eyes. I hadn't seen that until you pointed it out. The same picture is right here where I play. When I look into his eyes, my heart does a big blub-dub. Different kind of connection. Thank you for that puzzles piece.

Peace,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer



PS From one Mom to another Mom, I’m thinking of you these days. Michael’s birthday is June 19th.

[onawah]

There's a website here:
http://bluestarspeaks.com/
that was created by two channelers who say they are walk-ins, Celestial and David.
Celestial channels a being who calls himself Blue Star, a Pleiadian who still thinks of himself as Celestial's father.
I find those messages to be of interest at times, and have emailed with Celestial directly on occasion.
I like her vibe.
Blue Star is a very crusty old being, but I kind of like him too.
They're having a "Walk-In Summit"
September 14th, 15th and 16th of 2012, Pagosa Springs, Colorado
Now, that should be an interesting group!

Who are the Anun? (At first, I thought that was an abbreviation for Annunaki.)
Songs, could you please give a reference to the page numbers on this thread where that was discussed? Thanks!

[onawah]

On the subject of frequencies, densities, dimensions, etc.
From what I can gather about this ( though I feel a bit foolish discussing something about which I know so little, but only intuit), Earth will still be in physicality as she moves into higher frequencies.
But I think it will be a much more pleasant and pristine environment, and lifeforms will feel less burdened by the weight of gravity.
In short, a physical world without the disadvantages of being in physicality.
One channeler, Suzy Ward, whose visions of the future I certainly resonate with even though I don't know if I entirely believe them to be true, says that radioactive wastes will be neutralized by the higher frequencies and various harmful, parasitic lifeforms, including viruses, bacteria and fungi will not be able to survive.
She says the climate changes will result in a more temperate climate worldwide though earth changes will continue for awhile yet, due to negative energy Gaia is throwing off, and due to the all the many levels of change taking place.
I don't present this as fact, as I don't know it, but I do believe it's quite possible.
How long before these things might become clearly evident remains to be seen.
Other things she has predicted, such as wild predators (and all of mankind) eventually and of free will becoming vegetarian, wild animals being able to roam free, speak with us telepathically, the lion lying down with the lamb, and so on, probably all sounds very naive, but I certainly hope it's true.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...&type=1&ref=nf

Being a passionate nature and animal lover, that's the kind of world I've always wanted to live in.

And to have open Contact on the planet with advanced ET/ED races will certainly be wonderful.
That's clearly been happening already on many levels, and will surely only continue to escalate.



http://naturalplane.blogspot.com/201...sians-and.html

[songsfortheotherkind]

cross posted from here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post503007

Posted by Carmen (here)
But, but ,but!! Writing in such a way as to not cause others' egos to rear up in self defence is using the language of the Sui generis!!?? It's honouring and allowing others unique and different perspective, their Sui Generis. No?

The language of the sui generis does not involve egos, at all, which is why it can trigger so many upon hearing it. Ego as a negative isn't used in the sui generis vocabulary- it doesn't describe anything that is encompassed by a sui generis society. If one is a singularity, what does the word ego actually describe? If one is seeking to describe an expression in another that is less than sui generis, how does 'ego' actually accurately describe this?

(As an aside, I find it unsurprising that a whole negative thought system has arisen around the concept of the 'ego', which in itself describes nothing more than an element of the singularity of all sui generis Beings; all healthy Beings create an internal interface with the external world and a failure or inability to do so results in such conditions as extreme autism and catatonia. Not useful in terms of interacting with an external world. Personally, I experience the persistent tar and feather job on the 'ego' as a very interesting form of a virus based attempt at destroying the singularity of the Being, which is in harmony with many other homogenising and heteronomous tactics employed in many other ways).

In sui generis language there's an intrinsic, embedded conceptual foundation that indicates both an absolute acceptance of the other individual and an unquestioning holding of space for personal responsibility, because without absolute personal responsibility there is only a base form of sui generis that is being practiced.

There is a *vast* difference in the kind of communication that happens between two individuals that utterly embrace their personal responsibility, who hold their own and the other's sui generis in equal vibration and who embody the principle of 'do no harm': it means they're engaging on a pure essence level, with zero 'defense' mechanisms and internal contracting.

This does not happen here at this point in time. I have yet to find *anyone* that, at some point or another, does not trot out a version of the heteronomy- which is the virus. I'm living into that sui generis way of communicating and I'm nowhere near that pure essence signal; the majority, who are still embedded in the virus mind, generally have zero clue what I'm extending when I extend that energy towards them. They grab their maps and filters and apply them to me, which is part of the 'contracts' discussion we're having in the Pub. Social stroking is the way society manages its addictions and fears and the vibration and embedded signal in the way individuals communicate with one another is part of this stroking.

Now, if a Being shows up that doesn't mirror those social strokings and rituals, it can cause individuals, groups, and sometimes entire mobs, to freak out. An example: as so many new Beings were showing up with an immunity to social programming and other such rubbish, the establishment saw this as an unhealthy condition (which, from their perspective, it is) and so the diagnosis of Asperger's Syndrome was spread across a far, far wider spectrum of society than the diagnosis was originally created for.

We also have defiance and non-compliance disorders coming at society from all directions as by the 'authorities'. Unsurprisingly, many of the markers for highly gifted individuals fall inside the parameters of both defiance disorders and Aspergers; were Da Vinci to be born in this world now, and especially if he was born in the US, there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that he would be seen as problematic by the school system, be diagnosed with several 'disorders' and most likely medicated.

So I experience this 'writing in such a way-' thing as speaking very diluted sui generis in such a way that isn't going to freak the other out.

Here's the thing: I can't speak diluted anything, let alone sui generis. I know that others are really good at dilution/teaching (essentially, teaching *is* the ability to dilute something down so that it can be absorbed in gradually increasing conceptual and practical expressions) and good teachers can modulate their way of communicating so that they can keep diluting something enough until they get to the point of dilution necessary for the learner. I usually don't have the space in me to do that although to some degree I can and this post is an example of where I go with that- some individuals are brilliant pre-school teachers, or primary school teachers, or high school, or college; I have been asked to express stuff at post doctorate level. I simply can't do kindergarten.

Anyone talking at a level higher than the listener is running the risk of triggering *something* in them; the issue then isn't in the sui generis, it's in a whole bunch of perceptual glitches and psychological entrainment that go along with the social programming structure that this society creates.

Examples: someone recently posted on the forum regarding some interesting studies done around exploring how competent individuals in society generally consider themselves to be, and this highlighted the vast difference between where individuals thought their competence was (which was usually high) and where it *actually* was (which was much lower). This was posted in a thread regarding the subject of 'why intelligent government will never happen', if I recall correctly, and it was a study that I reposted in several places.

Another: the inbuilt entrainment that causes individuals to automatically assume that an intelligent individual is 'trying to make them look stupid' or 'thinks they think they're better than everyone else, don't you!' because they're not talking in a way that makes the listener feel comfortable. Often, for an intelligent individual, this can mean that one's conversation level has to drop so low as to become utterly painful and like wading through neck deep molasses. It actually can cause headaches and stress, but to the listener, this distress looks like arrogance.

The following took me approx 1.6 seconds to google. There are articles like this all over the net.

Any significant difference in intelligence between two people makes deep social connection a challenge. This point annoys people on both sides of the arbitrary cutoff point, but some research points to IQ differences of more than 15 points as sufficient to bar intimate, intellectual, and emotionally mutual understanding. Friendship is possible, but a certain level of closeness will not be present. In these situations, the gifted person may feel frustrated and the normal friend may think the gifted one is weird. Normal kids sometimes label a gifted kid "dumb" because what he or she says does not seem to make sense.

source: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m.../ai_n55503806/

What I'm saying is, sometimes, it doesn't matter how carefully one presents an idea, if it's a) too far above the understanding of the individual, b) it rocks their world too much, including about how they see themselves or c) threatens societal or personal sacred cows, there's quite likely going to be some pretty stellar 'ego' reactions. It's not my area of interest to avoid this; I'm personally interested in exploring with a group of individuals who a) have a diverse area of interests, expertise and ability and b) have a grasp of the concept of the sui generis in a solid enough way that they're able to undertake co-creation as a full on exploration of how sui generis might actually work within such diversity and c) are personally responsible enough to deal with their own freak outs.

A very simple way of describing this is: I'm a R and D Being. I utterly suck at tech support.

Posted by Carmen (here)
I don't intrude on others when their cups are full, generally. It's pointless and serves neither you or them. There has to be some sort of crack in the belief system! Some sort of openness.

Hence my interest in research and development- anyone involved in R and D is naturally questioning things already.

Posted by Carmen (here)
Oh, and the love. I'm not talking about the sweaty, bed shaking variety s. If that's what you are talking about!!:I've been there, done that. No, a book and a cup of tea is more my line!

That's interesting- you just merged the expression of physical sex based connection and love. I wasn't expressing that connection at all- and individuals wonder why I am so "nitpicky" about the word love. *grinning* I've experienced individuals getting really irritated with me when I ask them to define how they're using that word, for precisely this reason.

I was talking about the 'love for all Beings' sort of idea, which I don't personally express and engage in because, as you just so beautifully demonstrated, that idea and language is clunky and too muddied for clear communication. In the ancient Greek, there was eros and agape, 'brotherly' love, which was based on principles and actions rather than any emotion- agape I get, it's closer to the sui generis way of treating each other than any 'love one another' concept that I've seen promoted, which often contains worlds of emotional goo.

Filmmakers have a great opportunity to convey powerful messages. Good for you.

Thanks! *grinning* Although how many would be interested in watching things I would produce, given the way I experience and express my 'Verse, I have no clue. :D

[songsfortheotherkind]

Posted by WhiteCrowBlackDeer (here)
Thank you, Songsie.

I'll treasure what you said about Michael's eyes. I hadn't seen that until you pointed it out. The same picture is right here where I play. When I look into his eyes, my heart does a big blub-dub. Different kind of connection. Thank you for that puzzles piece.

Peace,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer



PS From one Mom to another Mom, I’m thinking of you these days. Michael’s birthday is June 19th.

So close to the solstice, like her Reborning day- here it is winter solstice, the time of the greatest inner expression turning back towards the outer expression. We have a fire festival here that I'll be going to on the 23rd, in celebration of the solstice, as well as our own proper solstice event on the 21st, which Triffid_Hunter and I deliberately chose as our wedding date five years ago. On both of these events we'll be doing a version of the Japanese 'soul boats' that are part of the Obon festival, the Festival of Souls or the Festival of Lanterns.



On the 21st our family will be gathering by the sea to send out a lantern for Krystal, one for Lydia, one for our son Rune and one for my twin daughters Savannah and Sirocco, and our Songs of love and blessing for wherever they are in the multiverse. On the 23rd, the same is done but by sending the paper lanterns into the air over a giant bonfire, so that they leap up and become upward flying sparks.

I would consider it a privilege to send out a lantern for Michael, one mother to another, with your blessings and permission, if you would like that.

[RunningDeer]

Posted by songsfortheotherkind (here)

Posted by WhiteCrowBlackDeer (here)
Thank you, Songsie.

I'll treasure what you said about Michael's eyes. I hadn't seen that until you pointed it out. The same picture is right here where I play. When I look into his eyes, my heart does a big blub-dub. Different kind of connection. Thank you for that puzzles piece.

Peace,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer



PS From one Mom to another Mom, I’m thinking of you these days. Michael’s birthday is June 19th.

So close to the solstice, like her Reborning day- here it is winter solstice, the time of the greatest inner expression turning back towards the outer expression. We have a fire festival here that I'll be going to on the 23rd, in celebration of the solstice, as well as our own proper solstice event on the 21st, which Triffid_Hunter and I deliberately chose as our wedding date five years ago. On both of these events we'll be doing a version of the Japanese 'soul boats' that are part of the Obon festival, the Festival of Souls or the Festival of Lanterns.



On the 21st our family will be gathering by the sea to send out a lantern for Krystal, one for Lydia, one for our son Rune and one for my twin daughters Savannah and Sirocco, and our Songs of love and blessing for wherever they are in the multiverse. On the 23rd, the same is done but by sending the paper lanterns into the air over a giant bonfire, so that they leap up and become upward flying sparks.

I would consider it a privilege to send out a lantern for Michael, one mother to another, with your blessings and permission, if you would like that.

Through these tears, I write, yes, yes, yes, thank you...

Even before I got to the sentence, I wished a lantern sent out for Michael for me. I've marked my calendar, to join with your family, Michael and me. You all will feel our love across these days. Waves of warmth and tingles. If a feather comes across your path, it's from you know who.

I'm rereading the post: Wow, so many spread across the multiverse. Water and air, perfect for Cancer and Gemini; earth grounded by two families combined; fire, transformation, flying sparks to completion, One.

Transcending the words now...sending my love and thanks, Songsie.
Paula

[RunningDeer]

Songsie, I was out when I realized that I should not have made the assumption to join without permission. I will not be offended if it’s not acceptable. My heart is there even without the invasion of peeking about. PM me if you prefer privacy for your family.

Otherwise, I'll see you in a couple of weeks, if not sooner. I say this because today, the Avalonian Family was traversing timelines. We all ran my errands this morning, including a walk by a river in the local state forest.

There were one-to-one chats that retreated into the whole for group chat and energy share. Strange, yet more real than what's real to most.

Peace,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer

[1inMany]

Wow, I could use a drink. Any room for a being from pom-pom land?

I previously shared, in another thread...

I do not have any memories of other incarnations (I think that's the right word lol)...of existence in other times or in other places. What I have is I guess a memory of sorts, but only one. One day my husband was telling me about his dream the night before. We started talking about recurring dreams. Out of the blue I described something to him, and I described it as a dream. The only problem was that I hadn't dreamed it the night before. It felt like a recurring dream, so I started thinking back to identify exactly when I had dreamed it. Funny, I did not remember ever dreaming it. But it felt so familiar...

This "dream" perplexed me for weeks. And one day it popped into my mind, "it wasn't a dream, it is a memory." Oh, well, now that got my attention. After the surprise settled, I could feel the truth that it was a memory. It's the only one I have:

I was in a place, but it was not really a place...thus I refer to it lovingly as my place-but-not-a-place. It was yellow and light, like the sun-golden, all encapsulating, but not just a color or a light...it was different, more somehow. I was in this..."stuff"...and I looked around in my mind and I saw that it was pure existence with depth. Out of this, something materialized. It looked like one of those pom-poms that are sold in craft and hobby stores for kids' crafts...spherical...thus I also lovingly refer to it as "pom-pom-land"...This sphere had shiny gold on the ends of it's yarn-like boundary things. It spoke to my mind, and had the voice of my biological mother. At the time I thought it must be my mom, but later realized that is the voice it chose so that I would feel comfort there. No idea what she said, the importance was that I felt at home. There were a few of this presences, they materialized and then once again became part of the whole. There was a sense of completeness, wholeness, with absolutely no individualization in the sense that any one of these was separate from the whole.

So...what do you suppose a pom-pom would drink? (Needed some levity....hope you don't mind...)

Much Love,

[Cerridwen]

Posted by 1inMany (here)
Wow, I could use a drink. Any room for a being from pom-pom land?

So...what do you suppose a pom-pom would drink? (Needed some levity....hope you don't mind...)

Much Love,

Welcome to The Pub, 1inMany. Interesting dream/memory, thanks for sharing.

A drink for a pom-pom huh? I'd say a margarita in one of those huge, almost fishbowl type of glasses.



That way, we could just sit your pom-pom Self down inside it and you could get tipsy through osmosis. *Giggles*




Silly enough for ya?

[songsfortheotherkind]

Posted by WhiteCrowBlackDeer (here)
Songsie, I was out when I realized that I should not have made the assumption to join without permission. I will not be offended if it’s not acceptable. My heart is there even without the invasion of peeking about. PM me if you prefer privacy for your family.

Paula, simply this: if you hadn't been invited, I wouldn't have offered. I love your energy and I love co-creation- how could the joining of our energies for such a gorgeous reason ever be anything but beautiful?

Otherwise, I'll see you in a couple of weeks, if not sooner. I say this because today, the Avalonian Family was traversing timelines. We all ran my errands this morning, including a walk by a river in the local state forest.

I'm around- I want to see if there's a way I can stream the sending of the lanterns while we're doing it.

*hugs*

[RunningDeer]

Life Unfolding: the heart is key. It's the driver.

I experience life like folds in a blanket. Time warps in waves. Where there are overlapping folds in the time lines, multi-points become one and the same. For now, it's more in theory, but inner knowing and doing are much stronger these days. It works with healing past in the present.

Experiencing two places at the same time, I know I can do. Imagination, plays a a big part in the beginning. I know I do it because there was a man that sees people that bi-locate. Years ago that gave me the feed back that I needed. He saw me in the place I wanted to be but chose the other instead. With his feed back I was able to fit some of the puzzle together. Key is patience and the belief it’s beyond imagination. I visit my siblings that way and sense they are doing the same. I say this because they come to me. It use to be me to them. The same with an old, dear friend. (Not concrete proof, but there are calls to see if one is thinking of the other. It's enough for me.)

My newest thing is like when one spreads a fresh set of sheets on a bed, pulling future into present, making it all one blanketed timeline. This is mostly theory for now. Synchronicities will be my concrete proof. Letting it cook for now. That way, knowledge comes in fresh and honest. Then I go where it directs. With the change in higher energy frequencies for us, these timeline synchronicities attract like magnets. Whoosh - be ready to accept action of change. (Is the way it’s seen in Now time.)

[songsfortheotherkind]

http://www.heavenaddress.com/Krystal-Jesse-LOWE/317498/

I had the most amazing experience last night. I'll write about it soon...

[songsfortheotherkind]

Last night I was meditating and thinking about Krystal; I was letting the memories and feelings swirl about me, letting my Self reach out and expand towards the energy with a view to seeing if she was ok.

I knew it was useless looking for her as she was here, because that's simply not how she is anymore and I know that. This nine day journey has brought me many awarenesses, one of which has been the confirmation that Krystal wasn't actually part of my usual network of connections: she was here primarily for the energetic pattern of her father, not me, and it was confirmed to me that it was this signal she was following and working with.

I saw a young girl, about 14 months old, playing. She was seriously absorbed in her activity and she had light brown, curly hair and was bent over in concentration. I have no idea if it was in the present or the future and yet what I clearly got was the message that she was *someone else's daughter now*. I saw that she was on another journey and that she didn't remember me in that avatar at all, she was living into another experience and life that doesn't involve me or my signal at all.

I sat and looked at her in this space, really looked at her, and thought about what this was showing me. I realised that regardless of future or present, she was someone else's child now; she's not part of my soul group and I have known that for awhile. She has never visited me in my dreams, or energetically, not since the first month of her leaving: she simply moved back into the multiverse and gravitated towards the signal that she belonged to, that of her father and her children and her life that she had long created without me and her *own* evolution, however that manifests.

I realised that what I have of her is the energetic echo of her within the holographic memory of Gaia her Self, the Terran equivalent of the energetic memory system accessed by the Pandoran Tree of Souls: her signal, the echo avatar of her is part of the planetary and universal hologram in the space/time we inhabited together and it is this that I am connected to, can interact with and communicate with. I understand this, because of the way that I experience the multiverse and the holographic way of Being; I have experienced spending lengths of time in other physical avatars in other dimensions where the avatar is inhabited by another entirely separate, fully sentient and energetically whole expression of 'me'. I have had the experience of having one of those expressions turn and directly look at me, smiling and saying 'I've been waiting for your visit!' before inviting me to share the avatar. Five years ago I spent almost six months living in two separate dimensions simultaneously and it was really really amazing; imagine having one's mind on splitscreen mode and using the latent abilities of the avatars to manage the simultaneous experiences.

I've mentioned before I'm familiar with multiple Self mode; this is me expressing that I'm also very familiar with interdimensional multi Self mode and the odd physicality that goes along with this. I'm deliberately working on deep mode contract dissolving because I'm aware that some of the really deep contracts and ownership stamps that are lurking on the biology are directly connected to limiting and preventing entirely the access of the doorways within to 'jump' space.

Some of this is part of the quarantine protocols that are on this planet: do a google search on 'demons confined to earth' to see a rich and mysterious palette of contorted history and manipulation regarding this process, which I will talk about at a later time but suffice to say that the quarantine is intentional and necessary- who wants virus laden Beings infecting the rest of the multiverse? So there are necessary quarantine protocols to negotiate and then there are the proprietary stamps on the biology, which are two entirely different things.

In essence, I understand that my connection with the Being that my daughter became after her month here post accident does not exist. I am deeply connected to her energetic echo *and* that's simply one tiny aspect of the rich palette that she is, which I know and am aware of in the hologram and which isn't involved with me much now. After I realised the hologram and Tree of Souls aspect, I was talking with Borden about it all and I said that I understood why in part she chose me: it was because I could get this level of Being and would be fully able to let her go energetically.

In the very moment when I was expressing this to him my bedroom suddenly filled with enormous energy; my heart chakra became lit up and I 'saw' an energetic Being turn and smile at me, and expand towards me briefly. I know it was her in another expression and her energy briefly reached out and touched mine and I got the most profound sense of 'thank you' before the window closed again and I was left in amazement and joy.

I am now able to use the pathways that I know for connecting with Echoes to begin my relationship with that aspect of her here in the Gaian hologram. I know that, if Gaia *does* make the decision to 'walk in' to another planetary avatar then I'll see what happens at that point: right now, I know that my daughter's Echo is somewhere out there and I fully get this multiversal way of doing things. I also know that I'm really good at this particular aspect of energetic work, it's one of the pathways used in the energy psychology practice I am familiar with.

I feel so grateful to have been given this aspect of the hologram to discover and connect to: it's one I really enjoy, this physical-realm-in-connection-to-dissolving-the-veil exploration. I want the whole translocation thing, to name one skill amongst a long list of 'I'd like *this* back, thanks': I do wander the otherrealms all the time but my pathways aren't richly physical, it's almost always energetic. For a long time that's bothered me- now I'm beginning to figure out what that's about; I'm good at bridging worlds and right now the worlds that I'm looking at bridging are the corporeal and non-corporeal. It seems my daughter's Echo avatar has popped up on the radar to help with that.

[songsfortheotherkind]

Posted by WhiteCrowBlackDeer (here)
I've deleted post because on second and third look, it seems elementary.

Remember, there are always new individuals coming to the Pub that may not have come across the information you're sharing. And besides, every Being has a different aspect of the hologram and something new to add, regardless of what they might think.

So please don't delete your posts, is what I'm asking: I would have loved to read your perspective.

[songsfortheotherkind]

Posted by onawah (here)
On the subject of frequencies, densities, dimensions, etc.
From what I can gather about this ( though I feel a bit foolish discussing something about which I know so little, but only intuit), Earth will still be in physicality as she moves into higher frequencies.
But I think it will be a much more pleasant and pristine environment, and lifeforms will feel less burdened by the weight of gravity. In short, a physical world without the disadvantages of being in physicality.

I've been having some conversations recently with both non-corporeal and physical Beings regarding Gaia doing the equivalent of walking in to another planetary avatar. It's apparently a possibility at this stage, because there seems to be some discussion going on about the free will of nearly 7 billion individuals who still *want* to be governed and their right to create this reality. In a sui generis universe, it is without question that these individuals have this- and every *other* choice- available to them: as I have mentioned before, the general 'yeah! that's right!' support to such threads as the 'ETs Go Home' messages, as well as the popular programming re Offworlders that the collective pumps out (Prometheus being just the latest in the 'offworlders are the bad guys' theme) indicates that, as in the day of the radio play War of the Worlds prompting suicides and other reactive behaviour, a mass uncloaking would most likely only prompt more global hysteria and unite the tribes briefly in an allout nuclear or biological war. While this would no doubt serve the anunnaki remnant controllers, in the case of the evolution that's not such a great scenario, and it's always been about supporting the possibility of evolution within both the anunnaki and homo sapiens species. There's no longer any support for that project, it's considered that what's done is now done and the collective energy is withdrawing and preparing to support Gaia in whichever way zhe decides to jump. I've said here before, wherever zhe goes the Otherkind and Starkind will go too- if it turns out that the decision is made to shift dimension, this one is going to be left with enough signal to sustain it at its current level and then all the energy that has been holding the signal for the evolution will be leaving. They'll have exactly what they've been demanding- their house will be abandoned to them and they can do with it what they will. If this means they devolve back to their original form the process won't take long- think of the creatures from 28 Days Later and you'll have a general idea, so nothing is going to survive that for long, and then they'll die from having nothing to feed on, just like their makers. That's the likeliest scenario. Then it will be a matter of allowing the virus to die out of the energetic signal (which it will without any carriers) and then the option to rehabilitate and restore this planetary avatar will be in the possibility field.

What a clever construct of the virus new age religion was- pimping the concept of that taking any action that doesn't support the existence of low vibration behaviour is 'unloving' and 'intolerant'- to me, it's like suggesting that the proper and robust immune system response to a physical virus is 'unloving' and 'intolerant': ah, the naysayers say, we're different from that, we can reason and discuss and thus see things differently. What they most often are saying is 'we can rationalise our low vibration behaviour in a million convoluted ways that will keep the virus going long enough to drag you under, and if you don't like it we have many labels and protests to hit you with'. I observed this happening in the thread I made a post in recently- interesting discussion almost immediately ensnared in the world of goo that many are explicitly here to excrete whenever evolution in any way makes an appearance.

btw, I am not saying this in relation to your post here- I'm doing the stream of thought thing that happens when I start writing about things that interest me. None of this is personal- you've seen me in action, you know if I was talking to you I would say so.

The only way to be clear of these contortions is the internal signal and deeply embodied connection to one's intuition. *Self* guidance, sui generis, own authority. Everything is only ever a different perspective of the ever evolving hologram. Fluid mind, fluid Being, fluid avatar, that's where it's at for me.

One channeler, Suzy Ward, whose visions of the future I certainly resonate with even though I don't know if I entirely believe them to be true, says that radioactive wastes will be neutralized by the higher frequencies and various harmful, parasitic lifeforms, including viruses, bacteria and fungi will not be able to survive.

High frequencies are scientifically proven to destroy parasitic life forms in their various expressions. I posted about this on the forum, before I created the Pub, I think: basically, I was surfing through the otherrealms and having conversations with some interesting Beings regarding the best way to dissolve the virus. I got the information regarding high frequencies; when I came back to this realm I decided to google it and see if there was anything corresponding to this in the science here. The first hit was an article regarding a father/son team that was using high frequencies to destroy viruses within the cells without harming the cells themselves. This was a flow on from their interest in the works of an individual in the 1920's that was curing cancer with frequency. I currently wear a variation of one of those frequency machines 24/7 to get rid of the excess cortisol in my system due to being continuously adrenaline fried; the difference has been profound. We're next tweaking the frequency to support my thyroid and heart, to heal the damage done there; after that, I'm going deep diving with some embodied offworlders here so that we can tune it to my otherkind genetics and get through the virus contracts that way, while I take on the dissolving in the energetic contract area. The machine means I'm not diverting my consciousness energy to do something on a physical level that a simple handsized device can do for me.

What can I say? I'm a horned, winged, black eyed and cheesy grinning energetic virus dissolver that also likes the geek tech. It's the hybridisation.

She says the climate changes will result in a more temperate climate worldwide though earth changes will continue for awhile yet, due to negative energy Gaia is throwing off, and due to the all the many levels of change taking place.

This is highly likely, as there has been a lot of screwing around with things here for a long time. The anunnaki have long had the ability to fool with the biosphere here and did try their own version of terraforming- is that really surprising, when so many sci-fi stories talk about humans doing exactly that to planetary conditions that don't suit them? Tough on the things that the environment does suit, but who cares? Homo sapiens are, after all, *god's* gift to the universe, according to homo sapiens... it's funny how one (non-human) race doing something is utterly evil and invasive, but when homo sapiens do it, it's called 'scientific progress'.

Huh. something in another thread has really bugged me, it seems- continued references to the christian god as being a good guy and power have apparently irritated my deeply and it's energetically leaking out in my writing. It seems what I'm truly feeling is an utter, profound and absolute 'I'M OVER IT NOW, CAN WE DO SOMETHING ELSE?' about the whole global farce. It's gone to beyond boring, and yet there's a part of me that's aware the remnant anunnaki systems want to take everything down to the last nanosecond. I get this from the anunnaki as evolutionary catalyst perspective *and* the whole thing is tedious now- I've never liked homo sapiens even though I was willing to be a part of those holding the space for them to evolve, accepting the personal cost that came with this endeavour, yet now that the decision of 'no more' has been made I find my Self impatient and restless, eager to immerse my Self in the physical Otherrealms again and do interesting things, compared to this endless recursion. The leaking energy wasn't aimed at you or anyone else, to be clear: I'm lonely here, profoundly lonely, and I'm frankly tired of having dreams that show me I'm going to get shot at for talking publicly about the sui generis. I like the outcome of being shot at, that's lots of fun- it's just knowing that fundamental stupidity is the default position for so many is tedious.

I've reset my writing energy.

Other things she has predicted, such as wild predators (and all of mankind) eventually and of free will becoming vegetarian, wild animals being able to roam free, speak with us telepathically, the lion lying down with the lamb, and so on, probably all sounds very naive, but I certainly hope it's true.

There are many religious, spiritual and traditional texts that point to an increase in the aggressive behaviour of animals due to the dissonant aggravation of the increasing low vibration signal towards the time of the shift. This low vibration signal has been around for a very long time. There are also species that are the result of lab experiments rather than the art of Gaia. As far as I see it, what will happen in terms of the shifting signal is what's going to happen. It makes sense that the behaviour of certain animal kinds will also shift as the frequency does- some will not be able to make the jump because their biology and natures aren't geared for that kind of evolution. The dinosaurs died out for the same reason and Jurassic Park pointed out that this is actually a Good Thing.

And to have open Contact on the planet with advanced ET/ED races will certainly be wonderful. That's clearly been happening already on many levels, and will surely only continue to escalate.

I did come across a George Adamski book and I read a little of it: I had to put it down because I couldn't for the life of me figure out why offworlders would wear such twee clothing and speak such banal stuff. I considered that they *may* have been a group with a very Douglas Adams sense of humour, which made sense to me- then I considered that this may explain who Douglas Adams actually was, one of that crew. It's given me many hours of amusement and led to some interesting conversations with equally bent humoured offworlders...

The open contact thing on a global scale, I don't think, is going to happen- there's a quote that says 'The best proof of intelligent life existing in the universe is that it hasn't tried to contact us yet' and on a global scale, this is pretty true. Think about it: they're going to be considered a) gods, b) saviours, c) enemies of all mankind or d) all of the above, all of which are pretty ugly scenarios for sui generis Beings. Single, personal contact makes more sense, unless one is going for global psychological meltdown and culture shock, which *always* goes so well...

I've been posting some things recently regarding the issues that come up with regards the differences in IQ's (remember, I don't think IQ measurements are useful indicators of what the system suggests it's about, *and* they are useful markers of an individual's ability to process and absorb information, amongst other things)- given that this happens with perspective, can you honestly see a positive outcome happening with differences in species? The film District 9 explored this one well, methinks...

Bottom line: offworlders and Otherkind are no longer prepared to die for homo sapiens. No more sacrifices for a possibility that has now run its course. Now, it's time for packing up the show and seeing who goes where.

*dancing*

[songsfortheotherkind]

Posted by onawah (here)
There's a website here:
http://bluestarspeaks.com/
that was created by two channelers who say they are walk-ins, Celestial and David.
Celestial channels a being who calls himself Blue Star, a Pleiadian who still thinks of himself as Celestial's father.
I find those messages to be of interest at times, and have emailed with Celestial directly on occasion.
I like her vibe.
Blue Star is a very crusty old being, but I kind of like him too.
They're having a "Walk-In Summit"
September 14th, 15th and 16th of 2012, Pagosa Springs, Colorado
Now, that should be an interesting group!

I did look at the site and tried a few 'transmissions' and I couldn't keep going- as soon as any start talking about 'god' my mind goes fuzzy and I get the glazed look in my eyes that make reading impossible. I've met some cosmic level Creators; they're utterly sui generis and not at all into heteronomy. I have found that in the 'walk in' world, there's so much 'god' stuff that I can feel my horns itching to grow then and there, which isn't going to go down well with that crew. The way I figure it is, this is all part of the sui generis unfolding in the 'choose your universe!' way- and I long ago put my hand up for a Creator based rather than god based multiverse. In saying 'Creator', I'm referring to something *vastly* different from the standard interpretation of this and am using the actual meaning of the word: "one that creates usually by bringing something new or original into being; " *without* all the loading that this word brings with it when we're talking Creator on a cosmic scale. For some odd reason, the conflation that goes along with creation here seems to be upscaled to cosmic level in the human interpretations- gee, I wonder why that is...

so mmm, anything advocating anything less than universal siu generis, I kind of get bored kid in the back of the class with...

Who are the Anun? (At first, I thought that was an abbreviation for Annunaki.)
Songs, could you please give a reference to the page numbers on this thread where that was discussed? Thanks!

Briefly, the Anun are those that are descended from the Liliths, the female anunnaki geneticists that spliced their own genetics to that of Otherkind and then injected it back into themselves, with very permanent and interesting results. It was the beginning of the Anun rebellion and evolution, which is also a really amazing thing and the reason the Otherkind got involved in it all in the first place.

I'm writing about all that, although it's really what the film is about IF I ever get that done...

[RunningDeer]

Posted by songsfortheotherkind (here)

Posted by WhiteCrowBlackDeer (here)
I've deleted post because on second and third look, it seems elementary.

Remember, there are always new individuals coming to the Pub that may not have come across the information you're sharing. And besides, every Being has a different aspect of the hologram and something new to add, regardless of what they might think.

So please don't delete your posts, is what I'm asking: I would have loved to read your perspective.

Hi Songs,

Good point, so I’ve reposted how I view multi-dimensions in #3495. I experienced this yesterday on what I'm calling "Stopping Time":

This never happened before, and it’s a lesson for me to dial up the inner awareness.

Wolfie, my dog, and I were out for a walk at the local shopping mall. There’s patch of woods on the outer skirts where he does his business. This afternoon, he couldn’t wait and picked a spot where everyone is out and about doing their Saturday to-dos.

I’m looking down to see if he’s finished and feeling embarrassed. I’m aware of the inner dialogue of, “I hope no one comes by.” With my head still down, and eyes raised, I saw four cars suspended in time; two on the other side of the median and two with several car lengthens between coming in our direction. No sound. Then, in the next nano second, they drove on.

It took about 30 seconds for me to recollect what just happened. After the initial “can’t be, that’s impossible”, I let it alone and walked for a few moments. Then asked, “What happened just before that point in time?” I ran the tape backwards and came up with the emotion of embarrassment, coupled with wanting a different outcome.

Emotion + Desire = a powerful affirmation of I choose my reality.