justoneman's session experience with Mark V. Johnson, hypnotherapist (and more)

[9eagle9]

Ack. Hypnosis isn't about sovereignty, or having one's sovereignty treaded on. At least it shouldn't be. A person hypnotizes themselves. The hypnotist should only be a guide to focus on. The guy who works with me on my personal hypnosis can help me to go far far into state to the point it 'appears' that I am in a trance. It only appears that way to the observer because my body is so relaxed its limp and and my vocal cords are so relaxed I can't respond properly. I sound different even and people assume an enity has entered my body but its just me being too lazy to speak and too relaxed to speak well.

Nor do I feel any compunction to correct this limped out. But... I'm fully conscious during this time, as conscious as I am now just a sharpened short of consciousness where I could hear a pin drop in the next room but..have a 250 pound man impose so much pressure on my arm he brings it to the point of breaking and I don't feel a thing. . Fully awake and aware, I'm just in state.

A good hypnotist should know if 'something' is attempting to intrude or if something has been brought to the surface.

Hypnosis typically doesn't bring any altered states of consciousness . Most people save for the deep physical and mental relaxation they experience don't have any sort of profound change in consciousness save for a sense of loss of time. Being in state for 15 minutes really feels no different than being state for two hours.

Hypnosis does have physical symptoms that you'd not be aware of since you are not observing yourself unless you go into Ultra Height hypnosis. So even though you may think you are not in hypnosis or resisting it you are very much in state. One can tell by the physical symptoms that a person in state even if they think otherwise.There's really no defining point between 'in state' and 'out of state' that the particpant can nail down. The hypnotist should be able to .

No more than one can define when they drifted into a road trance when driving which is form of auto hypnosis. One is not aware they are in road hypnosis till they snap out of it and realize they've been driving on auto pilot for miles. Of course you are still conscious during this time or you would have ran off the road but its hard to find that defining point of when you went into state and one is only aware they did that when the pop out.

We go in and out of state all day long, when reading or getting in absorbed in something. A mild hypnotic trance occurs.

[the_vast_mystery]

Sad to say, but part of me hopes it's not the way you describe it. Otherwise I'd quickly interrupt the session and leave disappointed. I've always expected hypnosis to illicit a powerful involuntary response. If it's no different than relaxation it won't work on me. I don't "relax" short of passing out, and it's hard as hell for me to do that without some, ahem, medicinal aid these days.

-_-;;

[9eagle9]

It will provoke an involuntary response you are just conscious while you're doing it. One is aware of their own involuntary response but the usual filters and inhibitions don't prevent it's expression. You may find yourself thinking, Oh geez, where's THAT coming from, but you aren't inclined to shut it down.

I mean I can do that without putting people in state, when they start talking consciously about something I just interrupt them and ask them to speak from the subconscious and they start blurting out all sorts of weird stuff.

Not a talent or an ability its just re-direction.

YOu do want to have to relax though.

Different induction methods work better for different people

[Anchor]

Fascinating.

First, thanks for posting this thread.

This may not help you very much, its all I have that is relevant.

From what I have read of your report, it is not a walk-in event. Neither in the BS new-age sense nor the real one.

If it was a walk-in, you would probably be called sofie by now.

Walk-in events are usually traumatic and involve the temporary bodily death. You'll often either read about associated coma, which is handy because otherwise the medical profession would have to say well um, yes he got hit by a cement mixer, was bought in DOA but then came back to life and woke up, terrible injuries but made a spectacular recovery... funny that everyone who knew him says the accident has "changed him".

Exit one soul, enter another. Consequently it is a big deal, and you had better hope that in such events, it is done by agreement There are walk-ins on this forum. They may pipe up and say something about it for you.

justoneman I'll say this for you... you have some serious balls. It is my impression that you have all the balls you need to see this one right to the end.

All power to you.

Anchor..

[9eagle9]

Hypnosis will be of no value to if you are suspicious of it. But this sort of work shouldn't be initiated alone and its not because of any spooky reason its just hat we can't see our own attachments. It's the itch in the middle of your back that you can't scratch.

Shamanic work on its own doesn't work because they typically don't counsel or address the internal source of the problem where an attachment has lodged but remove the entity in an elaborate display of spitting and handing wavin, and then the entity or another promptly returns. Some do, whiich is why that HK work appeals to me as integrated, one should have their healing process and the mechanics of it fully explained to them.

Find someone who is not scared of working in this sort of stuff because that just defeats the purpose, parasitical energies thrive even on healers who claim to remove them because they view them as having some sort of power. Having the wounded working with the wounded is never a good idea.

Entity removal suffices , perhaps long enough, to get them away so they are not leveraging the wounded or blanked out place, but the core of the issue has to be addressed. That is the part that you own, no matter how wounded, and that is the part that you can manage.

Attachments are self created as well, and can become self aware leading one to believe they are infested with a parasitical energy or ...allow a walk in door way.

A walk in cannot walk in unless there is door for it to come in through so one has to find the door, and the observer is more more more than likely to find it than the participant. Or a wound to attach to. My mother was a walk in and it wasn't as if her true personality were banished, it was overwhelmed. She didn't know she was a walk in but blurted out to me , even though she didn't realize what she spoke of, when the walk in episode occurred.

It doesn't MATTER though if its an entity, a walk in, a self aware fragment and people who don't know healing , don't know the human psyche, route and verse will have you chasing your tail forever with banal externalizations.

We have the control to abate that which we own, which is their attachment points. I could spend all day entertaining myself by breaking down GFL constructs, but the transmission is mutual, those who are attached into it will build it back up again, and basically the time unplugging one million people from an artificer intelligence is better spent help the few who want to do their work. It also means I'm playing that game.

so basically you need someone who knows how to ferret out wounds, how to navigate the psyche, pull those wounds forward, help you to cut the attachment with them. Understand and know your own woundedness instead of resisting it or creating more fear around it.

In the meantime that person should be giving something for you to do in the times that you are not working with them directly.

One should go in cut and slash, allow a few weeks integration time as the dust settles, and them come back and delve in a little deeper.

Hypnosis is helpful to bring resistant stuff to the surface but its not strictly necessary. 95 percent can be addressed without it.

Possession is epidemic, 100 percent of the population is attached to something in some way. The reality of the situation is that I personally, a former professional of this stuff, works on my self daily, or at least several times a week in some fashion or another. Not because I'm afraid that something is going to infiltrate me but it enhances my quality of life, my higher expression, my higher intellgience, my vibrational out put, my manifestation ability, my self authority, those are all my defenses not the ability to hoard up inside myself and defend myself, but how much power I'm expressing outwardly.

We are exposed to a lot of misleading information and I would not be telling you this stuff if I had not done all this stuff for myself, and I still do it.

For all the 'talk' and information about scrubbing one's pineal gland (which isn't necessary either) people still do not see attachments large or small and I don't care if they put the Hubble Telescrope in front of the their third eye like giant contact lens it is very hard to see our own **** and work it out alone.

Four times a year minimum i work with another woman and she ferrets out my '****'. And vice versa, I ferret hers out. In all other respects, she drags me out of the closet and we work together, she just nails this **** an pulls it off. But she needs me to find the point of entry, and to remove the entity. Tag teaming. Some people are resistant to this and I figure putting them in state is not going to abate that resistance, I morally cannot hold people in state 24 hours a day and the moment they come out of state and start resisting their own healing process its just pointless to help guide them into state in the first place.

The best I can do is get them behind all their own **** and allow them while in state to feel the nature of their own true self and hope that they are anxious to try to come back into that place by doing their healing work out of state. Or put them so far into state they can begin observing themselves. So they can see for themselves where their crap is at.

But one has to want to do the work, and once you get your first break through and start feeling that first expression of your own power....

I might add when I go into these places behind my consciousness persona, and enter that place, where I'm laughing my ass off, someone who is observing will ALWAYS try to label or 'attach' it when it is something that is entirely free from attachments. The point of all this work is not to heal wounds but to bring wholeness forward.

[Hervé]

Posted by the_vast_mystery (here)
[...]

.... If they can write these "programs" against others will, I can certainly get rid of those and write superior programs that work WITH me to get me where I want to be.

It's just a matter of getting that intermediary going so I can see what people put in there (and what I have to work with) and then how much I can leverage that to my advantage. I'll have to post a thread if/when it happens, it should be before the end of August. It's the least I can do considering you put all of this for our assistance.

Yep... Sure... and this planet ended up in a so-called "Cold War" with the use and proliferation of nuclear energy no one knows what to do with nor how to safely dispose of; it just sits there to generate the fear of "what if it goes kaboom?"

Same with these "beyond-the-veil" energies which have been built up and consolidated for eons... great idea but it needs to be examined with a long-view since the so-called "white magicians" have been "disappeared" for ages, cf. the history of the "Inquisition" and of the Cathares or MKultra scooping out all the kids showing any kind of psychic abilities. 'em have been fighting each other for eons... see Duncan O'Finioan and Miranda stories and backgrounds, or even our own Siberia9 and 9eagle9 in all their posts and battles against the "Necrophiliacs."

I do thank you for posting the idea since without it, it would have been floating around in people's mind without the above counter-weight to it.

It all "weights" in the end.

[Hervé]

About hypnosis, here is something an old Gypsy "Sorcerer" had to say about it:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Something to take into consideration with regards to hypnosis:

Here are the words from a very old oral tradition echoed to the ears of an apprentice to the Gypsy tradition (Pierre Derlon, Voyage au delà du Mental):

“Never in my life have I ever used hypnosis as my masters constantly repeated to me that what destroys Man’s will, destroys Man. Hypnosis destroys consciousness of motion and therefore massacres personality. For hypnosis is to a man’s brain what drug is to his body: a poison which, by killing his will, enslaves his soul into only perceiving lies.

“The difference between drugs and mental disciplines is that drugs kill; whereas, whichever ascetic discipline chosen, it strengthens/empowers. Man is prisoner of drugs, he is the master of the disciplines he subjects his body to in order to free his spirit from the gangue he is prisoner of.

"Man is ignorant of the fact that he is both a machine as well as its mechanics. He distances himself from nature and resorts to artifice. Artifice slowly kills him."

How to do it without hypnosis and/or Carmody's kind of determination?

Here is a site one can start from.

http://web.archive.org/web/201102081...xrevealed.com/ [Truman Cash's former website cached on the Wayback time machine]

Do read what the guy has to say... and you may realize that it's hypnosis that creates and maintains the skull dwelling zombies also known as sheeples.

As the old master mentioned, the "enemy camp's" use of hypnosis furthers Man's destruction with their abductions and post-hypnotic implanted commands and behaviours....

[Chester]

Posted by Anchor (here)
Fascinating.

First, thanks for posting this thread.

This may not help you very much, its all I have that is relevant.

From what I have read of your report, it is not a walk-in event. Neither in the BS new-age sense nor the real one.

If it was a walk-in, you would probably be called sofie by now.

Walk-in events are usually traumatic and involve the temporary bodily death. You'll often either read about associated coma, which is handy because otherwise the medical profession would have to say well um, yes he got hit by a cement mixer, was bought in DOA but then came back to life and woke up, terrible injuries but made a spectacular recovery... funny that everyone who knew him says the accident has "changed him".

Exit one soul, enter another. Consequently it is a big deal, and you had better hope that in such events, it is done by agreement There are walk-ins on this forum. They may pipe up and say something about it for you.

justoneman I'll say this for you... you have some serious balls. It is my impression that you have all the balls you need to see this one right to the end.

All power to you.

Anchor..

Thanks for this particular post and for this reason...

The being that called itself "sofie" said she was a walk in but that what normally happens with a walk in is that the host being leaves the body that the walk in takes over. What "sofie" said was that I would not leave and thus we became a twin souled being. I know this sounds nuts but this is what in fact came out.

Now here's my next promise -

I just received the recording last night. I am going to do the following:

Before I listen to the recording, I am going to write up my current view of the session. In the write up I will point out one very interesting thing that came out of the session that I have not brought up yet (because I wanted to review it thoroughly before putting it out there).

I also want to resolve my dilemma regarding the three metaphorical supernatural beings Jesus, Lucifer and satan so that I can anchor in a new view and move on from my questions there so that I am freer to explore other ideas and concepts.

Once I have done this - which will take me about 24 hours... I will post these two "pieces" - the one as to how I view the session's results to be posted in this thread and my Jesus, Lucifer, satan dilemma resolution to be posted in Vivek's thread entitled A New World Order: Exposing the Luciferian Agenda found under the Conspiracy category.

Once there's been sufficient dialogue about my session interpretations... perhaps a day or so, I will then listen to my session recordings and write up a new interpretation. I will also post the link to these session recordings such that anyone who may want can download the complete recording of my session. Mark recorded approxiamtely 4 hours of the session - he recorded all of it but the very unimportant beginnings. (Note: this means we spent almost 4 hours in pre-session discussion... I had earlier guessed we had only spent a few hours in pre-session discussion).

Note again, before I listen to the session, I will write how I view it all... what I think I got out of it, etc.

Being as honest as I can, I must admit that if I am dealing with one or more entities, I am not at all ready to evict a single one of them. I will also point out that I respect several posters here in this amazing forum and thus I am constantly torn between the advice I give to myself and the advice I get from so many of you super cool folks.

In this specific case, only NancyV seemed to suggest the same thing I was suggesting to myself. That I perhaps consider retaining the entity (or entities). This goes against the direct advice of Houman who said specifically "If I were you, I would get rid of it."

I am not ruling out that perhaps I will ultimately decide to get rid of it.

To be clear, the way I am leaning now is that I want to get rid of any and all entities other than "sofie." That's the way I am leaning at the moment.

I now must go see a movie... not sure why but something inside me suggests I go see this goofy looking movie called Prometheus. Note: I watch almost no TV sometimes zero for weeks (other than a sporting event I may put on and semi-watch and I sometimes watch FOX news because I love most of the actors on that entertainment program and love to see one angle of the MSM... sorta like watching televangelists for comedic relief). I do watch movies. I think I read between the lines. Most movies are pure BS (unlike some of Stanley Kubrick's works for example) and this one will likely be BS... still... I must follow the inner voice(s). be back later

justone

[Anchor]

Posted by justoneman (here)
Being as honest as I can, I must admit that if I am dealing with one or more entities, I am not at all ready to evict a single one of them. I will also point out that I respect several posters here in this amazing forum and thus I am constantly torn between the advice i give to myself and the advice I get from so many of you super cool folks.

I'd say the advice you give yourself trumps all others.

[Anchor]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
As the old master mentioned, the "enemy camp's" use of hypnosis furthers Man's destruction with their abductions and post-hypnotic implanted commands and behaviours....

We are not supposed to use harsh chemical drugs on the body either, but they do have their time and their place.

Humanity has available an extraordinary array of tools.

What we do with those tools sometimes beggars belief

[9eagle9]

Quit worrying about the damned golf game between Jesus, Lucifer and Satan do this for yourself! The can find their own T off time without your help.

Understanding this will not 'help' you persay in finding out and/or abating any possible influence it has on you and could indeed be prove to be a distraction.

(slaps hands)

Posted by justoneman (here)

Posted by Anchor (here)
Fascinating.

First, thanks for posting this thread.

This may not help you very much, its all I have that is relevant.

From what I have read of your report, it is not a walk-in event. Neither in the BS new-age sense nor the real one.

If it was a walk-in, you would probably be called sofie by now.

Walk-in events are usually traumatic and involve the temporary bodily death. You'll often either read about associated coma, which is handy because otherwise the medical profession would have to say well um, yes he got hit by a cement mixer, was bought in DOA but then came back to life and woke up, terrible injuries but made a spectacular recovery... funny that everyone who knew him says the accident has "changed him".

Exit one soul, enter another. Consequently it is a big deal, and you had better hope that in such events, it is done by agreement There are walk-ins on this forum. They may pipe up and say something about it for you.

justoneman I'll say this for you... you have some serious balls. It is my impression that you have all the balls you need to see this one right to the end.

All power to you.

Anchor..

Thanks for this particular post and for this reason...

The being that called itself "sofie" said she was a walk in but that what normally happens with a walk in is that the host being leaves the body that the walk in takes over. What "sofie" said was that I would not leave and thus we became a twin souled being. I know this sounds nuts but this is what in fact came out.

Now here's my next promise -

I just received the recording last night. I am going to do the following:

Before I listen to the recording, I am going to write up my current view of the session. In the write up I will point out one very interesting thing that came out of the session that I have not brought up yet (because I wanted to review it thoroughly before putting it out there).

I also want to resolve my dilemma regarding the three metaphorical supernatural beings Jesus, Lucifer and satan so that I can anchor in a new view and move on from my questions there so that I am freer to explore other ideas and concepts.

Once I have done this - which will take me about 24 hours... I will post these two "pieces" - the one as to how I view the session's results to be posted in this thread and my Jesus, Lucifer, satan dilemma resolution to be posted in Vivek's thread entitled A New World Order: Exposing the Luciferian Agenda found under the Conspiracy category.

Once there's been sufficient dialogue about my session interpretations... perhaps a day or so, I will then listen to my session recordings and write up a new interpretation. I will also post the link to these session recordings such that anyone who may want can download the complete recording of my session. Mark recorded approxiamtely 4 hours of the session - he recorded all of it but the very unimportant beginnings. (Note: this means we spent almost 4 hours in pre-session discussion... I had earlier guessed we had only spent a few hours in pre-session discussion).

Note again, before I listen to the session, I will write how I view it all... what I think I got out of it, etc.

Being as honest as I can, I must admit that if I am dealing with one or more entities, I am not at all ready to evict a single one of them. I will also point out that I respect several posters here in this amazing forum and thus I am constantly torn between the advice I give to myself and the advice I get from so many of you super cool folks.

In this specific case, only NancyV seemed to suggest the same thing I was suggesting to myself. That I perhaps consider retaining the entity (or entities). This goes against the direct advice of Houman who said specifically "If I were you, I would get rid of it."

I am not ruling out that perhaps I will ultimately decide to get rid of it.

To be clear, the way I am leaning now is that I want to get rid of any and all entities other than "sofie." That's the way I am leaning at the moment.

I now must go see a movie... not sure why but something inside me suggests I go see this goofy looking movie called Prometheus. Note: I watch almost no TV sometimes zero for weeks (other than a sporting event I may put on and semi-watch and I sometimes watch FOX news because I love most of the actors on that entertainment program and love to see one angle of the MSM... sorta like watching televangelists for comedic relief). I do watch movies. I think I read between the lines. Most movies are pure BS (unlike some of Stanley Kubrick's works for example) and this one will likely be BS... still... I must follow the inner voice(s). be back later

justone

[kreagle]

justoneman,

I just recently posted a comment along "these same identical lines" which was in reference to a previous Avalon member.

I will simply give the link to this post,......do with it as you like. I am somewhat concerned that my words of advice will fall on deaf ears, in that, I feel that I am viewed as the "opposition" to you. I can assure you that I am not, and that I am deeply concerned for the position you have placed yourself in.

As you have already ventured into this quest,....you have already revealed reservations about these "sessions". In post #5, by you, you state that,....." I have had some problems in the past, bringing things home with me after a session",....

In post #16, also by you,....you state that,...."I will be direct. - I am now pretty much uncomfortable with "hypnosis.,"......

(note: It sure would have been much wiser for you to have felt "uncomfortable" about this session with "hypnosis" prior to it being admitted to you,....rather than after!!)

(Here is the link for your consideration)

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...511#post503511

A friend and brother who cares,........kreagle

[watchZEITGEISTnow]

You were under for 6 hours??!! This is not good! Dolores Cannon says 2 hours under max or it can have a negative effect on the client...

You sure it was 6 hours under? I hope the regressionist used white light protection for you? I also wonder why he needed 6 hours to do this work?

3 sessions of 2 hours would be fine.

[eileenrose]

I did once see a hypnotherapist and I ended up taking control of the situation during the session while I was under hypnosis...not that hard. ... (he was new at it...though that is probably not why). So I suppose, in one way, you can be led to see inside yourself...but no one can make you stay/look/do anything against your will.
Or at least mine.

Never went back. He didn't look to happy about it either (that I only needed him for his energy/experience....and I did the rest). I guess they come out of school thinking they know a lot. Which isn't necessarily true. And I would never go back to someone like him now. As I go too far under already.

[Anchor]

Posted by justoneman (here)
Thanks for this particular post and for this reason...

I think I have more that I want to say, but it is not from a place of direct experience and thus it may just be informed speculation. So, really I am worried that it may well be irresponsible unless you agree to assume that I don't claim to know sh*t about it and just take it for what it is. Anyhow, I sense there is something bubbling up that wants to get written - but I will wait for you to post up all your stuff and then sometime after that, if still relevant and permitted, I will fire away.

[Chester]

Posted by Flash (here)
Question to you, Justoneman, how would this entity proceeded to enter into you? I really mean technically, what did you live? Was it all unconscious or not and if not, how was it happening?

Hi, the possibilities are several but I lean to the experience I have shared in this post -
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ion-experience

I will also point out that when I was about 9 years old I had an accident in a golf cart that was extremely strange. I was told not to drive the thing but one day I took it for a ride. I drove it up and down and all around a small fishing resort my grandfather had up at Lake Texoma (North Texas). After a good few hours I was coming down a hill and suddenly, with absolutely no explanation, I veered off the road to my left and rolled into a barbed wire fence. I recall seeing the fence and then, the next thing I knew, I was somehow on the other side of the fence, my face busted up and a few teeth missing, my sister who was with me bleeding from two gashes in her neck. We climbed through the fence and fortunately my Mom happened to drive by, she grabbed my sister in her arms (as she was bleeding pretty bad) and took us hurriedly to the nearest hospital. We were ok, but I know I had to have completely blacked out as there is zero recall of going through the fence nor how I was thrown from the golf cart.

And then this - one year latter (5th grade / 10 years old) I was attending a Catholic school called Cistercian Prep in Dallas (not relevant but fortunately for me I was asked not to return for 6th grade). The school had one of their religious holidays and so I found myself at home with nothing to do. I decided what the heck, I'll bike up to my old school (less than a mile away) and see if I could get into a game of kickball or football on the playground. I was lucky as some of my friends were playing football and they let me in the game. I had beeing playing for maybe 15 or so minutes when I found myself on defense. I was running real hard to my left after a kid who looked open but was gaining rapidly. The QB threw the ball to this kid anyways and I just knew I could probably intercept it and started running full out. The next thing I knew, I was on the ground, recovering from being knocked clear out. What had happened was that the school had put in huge light poles (probably the summer before) and I ran smack into one. I had played on that playground for three years, but there were never any of these polls. Anyways, I somehow rode my bike home where the maid we had freaked, called my Mom, Mom rushed home and called the doctor. I had the hugest bruise and a good gash one could ever imagine but I also have a pretty hard head (more than just physically some might say) and I recovered.

I mentioned these above two events because I was knocked completely out in both. I have been told that it is during these types of unconscious states that an entity (or perhaps many) could enter into someone and could possibly take them over.

So perhaps during one or more of the above three experiences, one or more of these entities entered into me.

I will say that I do not believe at all whatsoever that I have been replaced by one or more other entities. I believe I am the same primary being that was born on September 19, 1957. I suspect that one or more entities are co-habitating with me.

I do not draw any definitive conclusions and am still investigating the matter.

justoneman

[Chester]

Posted by Anchor (here)

Posted by justoneman (here)
Thanks for this particular post and for this reason...

I think I have more that I want to say, but it is not from a place of direct experience and thus it may just be informed speculation. So, really I am worried that it may well be irresponsible unless you agree to assume that I don't claim to know sh*t about it and just take it for what it is. Anyhow, I sense there is something bubbling up that wants to get written - but I will wait for you to post up all your stuff and then sometime after that, if still relevant and permitted, I will fire away.

Absolutely OK... as you can see, I am wide open to any possibility. Thank you for your interest, justone

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Posted by watchZEITGEISTnow (here)
You were under for 6 hours??!! This is not good! Dolores Cannon says 2 hours under max or it can have a negative effect on the client...

You sure it was 6 hours under? I hope the regressionist used white light protection for you? I also wonder why he needed 6 hours to do this work?

3 sessions of 2 hours would be fine.

Hi, my original claim that I was under 6.25 hours turns out not to be true... it was an estimate. I have the recordings now and I was under about 4 hours and 15 minutes. Thanks, justoneman

[Chester]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Quit worrying about the damned golf game between Jesus, Lucifer and Satan do this for yourself! The can find their own T off time without your help.

Understanding this will not 'help' you persay in finding out and/or abating any possible influence it has on you and could indeed be prove to be a distraction.

(slaps hands)

Posted by justoneman (here)

Posted by Anchor (here)
Fascinating.

First, thanks for posting this thread.

This may not help you very much, its all I have that is relevant.

From what I have read of your report, it is not a walk-in event. Neither in the BS new-age sense nor the real one.

If it was a walk-in, you would probably be called sofie by now.

Walk-in events are usually traumatic and involve the temporary bodily death. You'll often either read about associated coma, which is handy because otherwise the medical profession would have to say well um, yes he got hit by a cement mixer, was bought in DOA but then came back to life and woke up, terrible injuries but made a spectacular recovery... funny that everyone who knew him says the accident has "changed him".

Exit one soul, enter another. Consequently it is a big deal, and you had better hope that in such events, it is done by agreement There are walk-ins on this forum. They may pipe up and say something about it for you.

justoneman I'll say this for you... you have some serious balls. It is my impression that you have all the balls you need to see this one right to the end.

All power to you.

Anchor..

Thanks for this particular post and for this reason...

The being that called itself "sofie" said she was a walk in but that what normally happens with a walk in is that the host being leaves the body that the walk in takes over. What "sofie" said was that I would not leave and thus we became a twin souled being. I know this sounds nuts but this is what in fact came out.

Now here's my next promise -

I just received the recording last night. I am going to do the following:

Before I listen to the recording, I am going to write up my current view of the session. In the write up I will point out one very interesting thing that came out of the session that I have not brought up yet (because I wanted to review it thoroughly before putting it out there).

I also want to resolve my dilemma regarding the three metaphorical supernatural beings Jesus, Lucifer and satan so that I can anchor in a new view and move on from my questions there so that I am freer to explore other ideas and concepts.

Once I have done this - which will take me about 24 hours... I will post these two "pieces" - the one as to how I view the session's results to be posted in this thread and my Jesus, Lucifer, satan dilemma resolution to be posted in Vivek's thread entitled A New World Order: Exposing the Luciferian Agenda found under the Conspiracy category.

Once there's been sufficient dialogue about my session interpretations... perhaps a day or so, I will then listen to my session recordings and write up a new interpretation. I will also post the link to these session recordings such that anyone who may want can download the complete recording of my session. Mark recorded approximately 4 hours of the session - he recorded all of it but the very unimportant beginnings. (Note: this means we spent almost 4 hours in pre-session discussion... I had earlier guessed we had only spent a few hours in pre-session discussion).

Note again, before I listen to the session, I will write how I view it all... what I think I got out of it, etc.

Being as honest as I can, I must admit that if I am dealing with one or more entities, I am not at all ready to evict a single one of them. I will also point out that I respect several posters here in this amazing forum and thus I am constantly torn between the advice I give to myself and the advice I get from so many of you super cool folks.

In this specific case, only NancyV seemed to suggest the same thing I was suggesting to myself. That I perhaps consider retaining the entity (or entities). This goes against the direct advice of Houman who said specifically "If I were you, I would get rid of it."

I am not ruling out that perhaps I will ultimately decide to get rid of it.

To be clear, the way I am leaning now is that I want to get rid of any and all entities other than "sofie." That's the way I am leaning at the moment.

I now must go see a movie... not sure why but something inside me suggests I go see this goofy looking movie called Prometheus. Note: I watch almost no TV sometimes zero for weeks (other than a sporting event I may put on and semi-watch and I sometimes watch FOX news because I love most of the actors on that entertainment program and love to see one angle of the MSM... sorta like watching televangelists for comedic relief). I do watch movies. I think I read between the lines. Most movies are pure BS (unlike some of Stanley Kubrick's works for example) and this one will likely be BS... still... I must follow the inner voice(s). be back later

justone

Hi 9eagle9 - the dilemma I thought I had resolved prior to reading Vivek's thread -

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...iferian-Agenda

...as to the metaphorical representations of Jesus, Lucifer and satan has been extremely significant for me for almost a dozen years.

As anyone who has read enough of my posts by now can conclude, I use this forum as a healing tool. I have never, ever experienced any tool for healing that comes anywhere close to what I have been experiencing since I began reading and posting here on the Project Avalon forum which began just after my latest psychotic episode and almost suicide.

Recall that on March 10th, I had to leave my wife in Colombia (thinking I may never be able to see her in the flesh again) and go to my ex-wife's father's home in Texas (the only place on earth I was able to go to) with two suitcases of all the possessions I had to my name and $300 and no job nor job prospects. I no longer was able to actually kill myself anymore but I went through a phase from approximately early February up until I discovered Houman's Horus-Ra thread on April 26th where I prayed to God most of the day that I would get cancer, or have a heart attack or somehow be killed some other way as soon as possible.

On that day, when I discovered Houman's thread and read the very first post, I found the last and final dot I needed and instantly everything changed.

I announced this new reality to my ex-wife's father and his wife who had been very worried about me. They would testify that indeed I made a complete and instant 180 degree change that day. Anyone who has followed my posts might be able to see that to be true as well.

I use this forum to explore the deepest questions I have within myself. Due to the awesome folks who are members and posters of this forum, I have been able to receive incredible feedback which has allowed me to make rapid progress in the reclamation of my soul project, the restoration of my sanity, the improvement in my demeanor as I interact with others and the overall rebuilding of a solid character I choose to be.

This is extremely healing for me to follow my process. Therefore that is why, when I have such pressing dilemmas such as this, I would think it would be wise that I am able to continue with the process that has helped me so far. And that is that when I have a personal POV change regarding something as important to me personally as to how I view the metaphorical beings of Jesus, Lucifer and satan, and I would like to state my new, reprocessed view view, I should be encouraged to do so, not told not to do so.

Considering how important the Lucifer/satanic situation is here on earth - especially as this relates to many of our planet's current rulers and the massive amounts of victims of human sacrifice and ritual abuse, I would think that I would be supported and encouraged to express my views regarding that key trilogy of "beings."

I would think a shift in view where I am now suspicious I may be the one who might be wrong... wrong in thinking that Lucifer is actually some good guy who has been defamed by an artificial being known by the name of satan. That I now consider that perhaps Lucifer is the actual primary being in the archontic structure might be quite a huge step in my process of healing. That I may have been wrong that Lucifer and satan were and are two different beings. That it may be true that satan is simply the dark arm of Lucifer and that the arm of "light" Lucifer perhaps had projected to me to be benevolent is simply another arm of this same primary being.

Anyways, I did actually state my new view (as I had promised I would in a prior post if my view did in fact change) as one can see in this post made just after I stated the importance of needing to do so.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post504591

Please, encourage my healing process - especially in that I am making good progress.

The point of all this work is not to heal wounds but to bring wholeness forward.

Healing for me is returning to wholeness - defragging if you will.

justoneman

[Chester]

Posted by billyji (here)
Chester my first thoughts when you described your "walk in" was it is an archetype, not an outside being entering you but an archetypal character/personality, that one allows into your life when you are going through traumitic experiences. Usually childhood but also continues throughout lives experiences,

We allow many archetypes into our lives, They usually attach themselves to the Ego as a sort of safety valve after personal negative experiences. for example, Abuse, Disfunctional parents, Heart break, Abandonment, Regection Etc, They are the masks we wear throughout life, We all have them some more than others, some allow them to completely rule their lives manifesting anger, jealousy, insucurity. etc.

Archetypes can be set free by thanking them for being with you, Saying, now you do not serve my greatest good anymore, mission complete you can leave now. This would be a conscious expression, the subconscious takes a while to catch up on a conscious decision because of old habits and cycles etc, Shamans are experiences in this type of clearing. I was with one for 3yrs. I can recommend it.

Peace

Thank You, the closer I get to sorting all this out, the closer (perhaps) I am to asking the "entity" and/or archetype to leave. Note that I am of the opinion currently that I am dealing with more than one entity. Also, I have a sense I have been an abductee in a previous life and possibly this life and thus am dealing with multiple possibilities. Until I am comfortable I have identified all that I am dealing with, I am making no decision as to what course I will take.

If I had to decide today, I would like all entities other than this "sofie" entity to leave. I do not want to part with sofie as "it" has been a key part of my being for decades in this lifetime and I am comfortable with the relationship. I am of the opinion that all my troubles have come from an invasion of third party entities.

Again, I reserve the right to change my mind at any time.

justoneman

[Chester]

Posted by Daughter of Time (here)
Hi Justone,

Thank you for sharing your experiences.

Your dream sounds like astral travel. Once upon a time I used to get very excited when i realized i was astral travelling. But then I learned that entities from the astral plane can attach to you without you having any clue other than you begin to experience a type of split personality, and usually it's so mild that you may not even notice.

If the being attached to you is an astral entity, then it should not be too difficult to deal with. I used to have several entities attached to me. They left me with the help of my ex scientologist friend I spoke about in Houman's thread.

When one of my colleagues died some years ago, he tried to force himself into me. I was very aware of that and it took a lot of convincing before he left me alone. He was gay and wanted to continue experiencing life's carnal pleasures through the body of a woman and since he admired me, he felt this was the thing to do.

If this is an astral entity, you just have to talk to whoever it is and tell him/her that you release them with love and that being with you doesn't help you nor them, etc., You will put it into your own words and usually, sooner or later, they understand. Usually their aim is not to destroy you, but to prolong their earthly experience.

If this entity is the product of alien manipulation, then it will be trickier. i cannot advice you here as I'm dealing with my own alien traumas.

Good luck peeling the layers.

Love and peace.

DOT, thank you for your input. One thing I gathered from Truman Cash's Eye of Ra is that, in a way, we are all aliens. Consider what that may be... a spirit being? A spirit being free (for a moment) of its soul component if that can be?

Consider this one... could a "soul" simply be the container created such that a spirit being finds itself within a reincarnative complex where they have lost their sense of free will?

I don't have any of these answers but I do have my leanings and I am beginning to lean to the possibility I was a free spirit being that allowed myself to get trapped in a reincarnative complex on planet earth.

I am unsure if I want to leave this complex for two reasons.

Reason 1: I love the physical human experience though I absolutely loath the current world situation.

Reason 2: I have loved ones I feel I benefit and thus I do not want to leave them - I am referring to my sons and my wife and her daughter primarily... but others whom I know and love... as well as anyone within humanity that has a good heart or desires for one.

So, I am pretty much no ready to leave this reincarnative experience at this time.

As for the dynamic where a spirit being can get caught and placed inside a physical being (as has been expressed by Truman Cash) and as seems you are referring to with your experience of your gay friend trying to enter you... I hate to say it, but all that feels like fun (as long as the individual spirit is able to retain their sovereignty).

justoneman