Soul harvester

[wynderer]

from Carmody--
Now, the story goes that our particular capacity to manifest on the astral realms exceeds that of the reptilians, thus their fear of us.....they come at us with the only weapon they have, which is through the channeling or commandeering..of the back door of our emotions and autonomous ego systems. They strike at our weakness. Like any reasonable warrior in a battle they hit our Achilles heel to take us down.

what about Dulce tho? & maybe the reptilians up to recently have been at a disadvantage, being confined to the astral as you point out -- however, because of the non-astral breeding programs [which are NOT happening just in the human mind], they are getting quite good at making clones & hybrids, & now are getting more & more ability to act in the physical 3D plane

i'd better add -- i hold my own against them quite well -- i'm not writing about this because i am asking for guidance &/or education -- i am writing on behalf of the ignorant & the innocent , the sheeple, who, despite what seems often like their great stupidity, deserve better than what is coming to them -- please don't run the 'illusion' riff by me -- unless you have earned that right by going thru Dulce kinds of torture yourself, & walked out of there , or similar physical places, free & happy on the strength of your illusion-destroying capabilities

[Ethereal Blue Being]

On the subject of soul harvesting and the treatment/genocide of the indigenous of Columbia and elsewhere spoken of on this thread. I believe that part of the process of what is going on the planet absolutely, undeniably requires (by TPTB) the majority if not all of the indigenous to become detached from the 'resonance' of the planet and other dimensions,realms etc by destroying the physical environment and taking most of the other lifeforms-- birds, mammals, insects, reptiles, etc. down with it..

[Peace of Mind]

If only I was privy to spending more time here, i've been very busy lately creating a beautiful world….

I’ll spend a little bit more energy here in hopes to clarify some misunderstandings.

When I say it’s your fault, this is to say the individual allows itself to be manipulated….ignorance is of no consequence, the universe can only comply; it projects the inner images of the individual...where the focus of creation begins. You can choose to doubt or believe…it’s really that simple.

However, when a soul is in deed aware of the obvious exploitations and still consents to the abuse, that’s an abomination to self and all of creation. When the extension of the soul/God knowingly allows the hurt to continue to itself, through self or through others…it shouldn’t complain about the unwanted treatment, this has always mystify me…

What is your perspective, your outlook on life? Do you see blatant oppressions and genocides to be nothing more than unfortunate incidents and manipulations…or do you see them as the examples and opportunities to respond in your own Christ way? The answers only elude the ones who have very little intentions on making a difference. How many is actually willing to die for a cause? There’s a hand full of evil manipulators destroying this world, whether they are alien or domestic it really doesn’t matter. What matters is the re-action…the power of the will to help others so they can help you. Your freedom isn’t free. You will not survive if you let your self (others) become separated. We can all talk about the unknown and philosophies; but the answers to salvation aren’t really that vague at all. Courage

Ponder on this for a while…
Understanding the potential age of the universe….you will clearly see that humans are still in their kid stages. I say this because they whine, bicker, fight over abundance, they're fascinated with competing and often show little respect to their living quarters...They hold each other back because of envy and doubt, rarely will they help another unless it were beneficial in a superficial way.

Society is saturated with procrastinators and pretenders. This was designed this way, divide and conquer, separation created through religion, culture and wealth. Peace can never come out of a system that creates division. Change this and you change the world dramatically… nothing to fear but yourself, you are here to learn then die, choose your death, don't let a sly government or anyone place images of a future in to your head. Give them the power to kill, jail, or scare you and you shall have that because you imagine it, you let them have that power through your fear and created the conduit. Don’t be a waste/part of the problem we blame others for. People die all the time, why not make it an honorable one… or will you perish in vain? What will be your legacy? Will your contributions be a detriment or a benefit? Will you learn, give and evolve, or just talk about it? Will you inspire others to take back their power or find more images of despair for them to focus on? Life is easy, but who makes it hard and why let it happen?


This is your graduation time, your classroom, your ultimate lessons, fears…all waiting for you to overcome. You are here to get involve and evolve the soul; deficiencies in trust and patience will never be accommodating. I live well because I want to; I want others to live well so I sacrifice my energy here and elsewhere in many ways simply because I choose to. What I speak is no secret, just seldom heard… and practiced.

I know the pillow is quite cozy and deep sleepers get annoyed when ever their slumber is being disturbed. But, the hibernation is over, smell the coffee and wake the others…there’s a beautiful day just waiting to be created.…

Peace

[Ross]

Peace of Mind,

Great post, thankyou.

Im hearing you... this sentence really sums it up for me:

"Society is saturated with procrastinators and pretenders. This was designed this way, divide and conquer, separation created through religion, culture and wealth."

Many here who have posted, has written, in one fashion or another some little gems...words that collectively lead towards, what we do have control over,

So...

It starts with ourselves, thats the real battle, always has been.

Thats the game folks, get in control of self, soul harvesting? wont happen with a Sovereign being in control.

Ross

[rhythm]

Posted by Ross (here)
Peace of Mind,

Great post, thankyou.

Im hearing you... this sentence really sums it up for me:

"Society is saturated with procrastinators and pretenders. This was designed this way, divide and conquer, separation created through religion, culture and wealth."

Many here who have posted, has written, in one fashion or another some little gems...words that collectively lead towards, what we do have control over,

So...

It starts with ourselves, thats the real battle, always has been.

Thats the game folks, get in control of self, soul harvesting? wont happen with a Sovereign being in control.

Ross

so agree with you Ross (nice thread to )

[Chakra]

Posted by wynderer (here)
a question for both Renee & Carmody -- since you work w/the souls of those who have recently died -- & the title of this thread is 'Soul Harvester' -- do you agree or disagree that there are non-human entities who are capable of 'stealing' souls, keeping souls from progressing onwards , keeping souls captive as my Oreeon friend says can be done, capturing them the way John Lear says is done --

i personally think that souls can be caught & destroyed

Yes, Yes and Yes....so technically you don't really need to read any further now

The soul is neither 'permanent' nor immortal until it has gone through the ascension - the real ascension not the kind you by DVD's and take work shops on.

For some that have been here a very long time - they think that their soul must be / or is immortal - it just hasn't mastered the physical yet and has karma to still clean up.

The soul from my understanding is originally a construct (creation of the trinity, God self or higher self, Christ self, soul) to be able to be in this dimension, therefore it is subject to all the things within this dimension.

As others have talked about - you can create your reality based on the choices (karma) You (human ego vs God's will) and your soul makes. The problem is it has gotten really complicated. Everything from the fallen Angel's, Watchers, nephilum (Devil, Lucifer, Satan - their legion of Angels that fell - their creation of demon's. (Book of Enoch) They are very real and the black magicians etc. want the destruction of Alpha and Omega's creation.

All the root races of souls that this planet belongs to. They have been working on that for some time now. This planet fell in consciousness on the 4th root race, the 7th is trying to embody. Many were getting aborted and their arrival has been slower. When they are not aborted they are filled with vaccines....sids or autism.

We also have groups of souls from the warring planet of Maldek and Mars. They were given an opportunity to work out there aggressive ways here and are blowing it again. There are demons that encourage this they like to live off the death and horror of war. There are also souls from other parts of the galaxy to help out with all the 'issues' here - the 144,000.

The rep's and grays - see the body as a commodity and the souls as an opportunity towards immortality. See Karla Turner's work on this. Her books are on a memorial website for free. There is a story of a fellow that saw his soul be removed and put in a box. They have had many years to work on the technology to do this apparently. There was a lady (Karla interviewed) who saw souls been captured and taken into what sounded like the moon...

My personal experience comes from attending a very large soul retrieval in 1995 and seeing thousands of souls fragments being returned to people, I was very shocked to find out later that night a grey that had come back for it. I have told this story before - my apologies if this is a repeat. I had to do a lot of healing for that part of me that had be traumatized by this experience, to learn to trust me (unite) again. (I do a lot of 'prayers' for protection) I believe it was when I was around 11 when it was taken.

I saw the girl / hybrid child that it had been used in. I was told that it was to give her life (or better life ?) and that she would die without it. I left 'that' in the hands of God and my soul part stayed with me. You are responsibly for taking care of that which God has given you, as in waste not want not. If I am to ascend in some life time my soul must be healed and intact. It can not go through the fires of the ascension coil with out being whole. A Soul - psyche can be fractured/split/torn/ bits gone in moments of sever shock trauma....that is apart of mental illness - not so much a fractured mind but a fractured soul.

Everything in our world, wars, money, bad relationships, horror of all kinds are created by all the 'service to self' sides, to try to destroy the souls chance of attaining a Christ consciousness and ascending. Until that occurs the soul is vulnerable. To protect the soul from any and all harm - should be done at all costs.

To thine own 'self' (soul) be true!
The funny thing is though that I also figured out - it doesn't really belong to you.
The light of the soul really belongs to God - so you can demand it back, in God's name. In the name of the I am that I am.

You can also have bits (or larger) of other peoples souls too. As in multiple personalities in extreme cases - You can also send them back as well. Another really surprising moment was when I discovered I had been carrying a part of my mother's soul. She (soul is always feminine) was too scared of the life my mother had. I sent it back - my Mother was then really upset with me for sometime after that.

Souls of other people can really interfere with your world, it is best to have the Angels protect and return them to where they are suppose to be. The Buddhist have a way to prepare one for death and how to avoid being trapped in the astral levels. Christian rituals do sort of the same thing with prayers, hymns to the Angels etc.

Hope that helps

[Steven]

Posted by Renee (here)
By what personal knowledge or experience do you base this on please?
Or is this possibly a supposition or simply a speculation based on what you hope to be true?

It is indeed based upon personal observation of the Universal Laws and Principles that rules all Creation. Victimhood consciousness is a dynamic type of human behaviour : savior / victim / oppressor. You can see it in individual or in collectivity. The reading of the New Paradigm series might help you to understand my point of view.

It is not based on hopes, but rather on observation and application in my personal life. Victimhood consciousness is filled up from bottom to top in each large religion. How the concept of sin is used by the leaders of the large monotheist religion is a good example of how victim consciousness is perperpetrated.

Soul harvesting is also spread out all over the Bible, especially in the apocalypse and it is a metaphora, in my opinion, like many other concept in the book. The is no sign at all, other than stories that I find on the verge of paranoia, to point out that there is indeed a literal harvesting of the souls. It all wraps up into comprehensible understanding when you look at it from the metaphora point of view.

Namaste, Steven

[wynderer]

Posted by Steven (here)
It is indeed based upon personal observation of the Universal Laws and Principles that rules all Creation. Victimhood consciousness is a dynamic type of human behaviour : savior / victim / oppressor. You can see it in individual or in collectivity. The reading of the New Paradigm series might help you to understand my point of view.

It is not based on hopes, but rather on observation and application in my personal life. Victimhood consciousness is filled up from bottom to top in each large religion. How the concept of sin is used by the leaders of the large monotheist religion is a good example of how victim consciousness is perperpetrated.

Soul harvesting is also spread out all over the Bible, especially in the apocalypse and it is a metaphora, in my opinion, like many other concept in the book. The is no sign at all, other than stories that I find on the verge of paranoia, to point out that there is indeed a literal harvesting of the souls. It all wraps up into comprehensible understanding when you look at it from the metaphora point of view.

Namaste, Steven

Steven dear soul -- the concept of 'soul harvesting' is NOT all thru the Bible -- whatever gave you that idea? the closest i can come to it is one of Jesus' parables using the imagery of the sowing of grain -- & then there is his imagery of the separation of the sheep & goats, which to me sounds more like different timelines

there are a lot of so-called Christian books out there which come up w/their own ideas, & non-Bible-literate persons seem to get confused between the 2

from PeaceofMind --'However, when a soul is in deed aware of the obvious exploitations and still consents to the abuse, that’s an abomination to self and all of creation. When the extension of the soul/God knowingly allows the hurt to continue to itself, through self or through others…it shouldn’t complain about the unwanted treatment, this has always mystify me… '

does this also apply to women & children, right now somewhere in this world [you can bet on it] , crying & begging for their lives at the point of a gun? do you think if they all sat & meditated & raised their consciousness vibes, the gunmen wouldn't shoot?

& what about the Dalai Lama --shame on him for his victim consciousness, sneaking out of Tibet away from the Chinese -- why didn't he just stay there & manifest a free Tibet, or, at the very least, a free Dalai Lama?

the self-centeredness of the 'you create your own reality' p.o.v. always mystifies me -- & i've noticed that the adherents to the creating-your-own-reality folks are almost all white, middle-to-upper-middle class, & living in Europe, the USA/Canada, or Australia/NZ --places where no war is going on & there are still a fair amount of consumer goods readily available

[Steven]

Posted by wynderer (here)
Steven dear soul -- the concept of 'soul harvesting' is NOT all thru the Bible -- whatever gave you that idea? the closest i can come to it is one of Jesus' parables using the imagery of the sowing of grain -- & then there is his imagery of the separation of the sheep & goats, which to me sounds more like different timelines

there are a lot of so-called Christian books out there which come up w/their own ideas, & non-Bible-literate persons seem to get confused between the 2

Yes, I agree. I over exagerated it It is not all over the Bible. I rather should say that the concept is old because it was at least mentionned in the apocalypse and gospel. But the concept of soul harvesting is still largely spread, just think about the symbolical way to represent 'death' as the reaper. Does it originated from Christianity, I don't know, but it's certainly present in Christianity's old text. That is my point, the concept isn't new and is a metaphora.

Ultimatly, my perspective is that a soul can not be harvested. A soul incarnates, it might not choose where, depending of its own evolution. What is harvested is the fruits that a given soul produces.

Namaste, Steven

[Peace of Mind]

{Quote}does this also apply to women & children, right now somewhere in this world [you can bet on it] , crying & begging for their lives at the point of a gun? do you think if they all sat & meditated & raised their consciousness vibes, the gunmen wouldn't shoot? {End Quote}

Hi there, wynderer…

Yes, I believe any potential threat can be diverted; most aren’t because the victim expects the outcome to be bad. This is part of the programming. If I hold a gun to your head, what you do next decides the outcome…you can be scared and manifest images of you getting shot, or be fearless and change the outcome of your illusion with creative intent. When you can’t see this reality as being an illusion you will struggle. I also believe people are placed in certain scenarios for a reason. This is why I asked “what is one’s perception of life?” It’s a possibility that extremely brave souls choose to come here and suffer for the benefit of the whole, they could have signed on just to be the examples knowing that most humans need incentives before becoming pro-active. The soul has to be stimulated to decipher the differences between love and hate. You can choose to look at these people as victims and do nothing about it, or choose to see them as the result of societies neglect. Their turmoil doesn’t have to exist. If you see someone/thing attempting to bring harm to your immediate blood family… I’m sure you will do whatever it takes to prevent it. When this same compassion is given to strangers (the ones you see suffering) the world will have little to no problems. But, since people rather watch and experience the pain from a distance without interacting and blessing the situation with their own good intent…they will always be irked by these problems until they do what they can to rectify it.

The media spreads bad news all day long and people eat it up. “A child was killed, a woman was raped, a bank was robbed, drugs were sold, and countries at war.” All news is perceived to be only bad, to keep you dwelling in grief, keeping you hopeless. The child is killed because people fail to realize that it takes a village to raise and protect a child. A woman is assaulted because the mind of the assailant is fractured due to receiving a lack of love, attention and respect…so he’ll return to the universe what he received from it, the victem may have aligned herself to receive the abuse. I won't pretend to know her karmatic value, that has always been personal, Nor would I use her trauma as a excuse to remain idled. Actually, I'll be even more motivated to help ( you see whwere I'm getting at?). Banks are robbed because people are hungry, drugs are sold because society says you need money to survive but at the same time creates unfair exhausting obstacles to get this money, wars only exist because of greed, arrogance and jealousy. When everyone responsibly gets involved in their own unique powerful ways there will be no more discussions about a world in chaos.

{Quote} & what about the Dalai Lama --shame on him for his victim consciousness, sneaking out of Tibet away from the Chinese -- why didn't he just stay there & manifest a free Tibet, or, at the very least, a free Dalai Lama? {End Quote}

You will have to ask Dalai Lama how he chooses to project his own reality. What I do know is when taking on the responsibility to guild the energies of others you can create mishaps for yourself if not planned properly. Looking at a bigger picture, one can see his adversity as being inspirational or disheartening. It’s all in your perspective, mode the outcome don’t let others mode it for you. You see a open wound…put a band aid on it because knowing and doing nothing will only create an infection…ultimately, causing more pain.

{Quote}the self-centeredness of the 'you create your own reality' p.o.v. always mystifies me -- & i've noticed that the adherents to the creating-your-own-reality folks are almost all white, middle-to-upper-middle class, & living in Europe, the USA/Canada, or Australia/NZ places where no war is going on & there are still a fair amount of consumer goods readily available. {End Quote}

Your vision may be a bit blurry on this. Indigenous people have always created what they wanted. Material items are of no value, they only are because you gave it that value (Tricked to giving it value). Over the years the offspring’s of the indigenous were manipulated. Their thinking has become corrupted with trivial ideas of “what is good living”. When they adopted the ways of the West…it was then when their world started to fall apart. Poverty only exists because of oppression and nepotism.
You keep saying service to self as if you’re talking about selfishness. Do you detect any selfness in any of my posts? However, if you do want to help others you have to take care of yourself first. You will be of no use to others if you don’t realize who you are and that others are a part of you. So, by ignoring self, you are ignoring others, you will die softly. When you love yourself you’ll learn (without a doubt) how easy it is to love someone else. People undergo heartache because there is very little love going around. People dress to impress, where fake hair, nails, high heels, makeup, revealing clothes, expensive jewelry, fancy cars, undergo body modifications, belittle others appearances…all because they don’t love themselves, they want to be what the TV tells them to be, this is another example of disempowerment. Loving yourself is the first step to helping others. The true self can not enjoy life in separation from itself; the only profit to be acquired through separation is the painful but priceless learning experience.

The media and poli-tricks have poisoned the mind; festered in doubt/excuses for so long that excuses sometimes seem to be the favorite manifestation, except some forget that excuses are useless and are just a waste of time…It is very important for us all to know that we control the final outcome…but its also your choice to believe this. Crunch time is for clutch players..I don't expect rookies to carry the team, just have the courage to play a supporting role.

Peace

[Ba-ba-Ra]

Interesting discussion. I'm just wondering when we talk about the soul, do we all mean the same thing. What exactly is the soul? I've had different thoughts at different times.

Let's play around here:

* First of all are the soul and consciousness one and the same?

*If they are separate, are they permanently attached? In other words, does your consciousness always stay with the same soul? Or is consciousness as to the soul, as the soul is to the body. In other words, are consciousness can be matched with different souls in different lifetimes.

Are we, who perhaps are a little more awake, becoming overly attached to thinking of ourselves as souls - just as those who are more asleep are overly attached to thinking of themselves as their bodies?

Let's say for a moment that our souls are just an etheric heart. And just as there can be heart transplants, there could also be soul transplants. Would that give a entirely different meaning to Harvesting of Souls?

Let's say a person in a convalescent home whose body has given up, but the soul still wants to experience more, is it possible for this soul to volunteer to be harvested to fulfill it's goals, and can the body of the person it's removed from go on? I'm inclined to think yes. Haven't you seen people in rest homes, who don't seem to be all there. Maybe they're not and what's missing is their soul. The same with babies. You know how some are alert from birth or very early, while others (although their bodies are mechanically operating on this plane) don't become alert until much later. Again, is that the difference between one whose soul is already staying in the body and one whose isn't. According to the psychic Edgar Cayce, a soul can come into a babies body anywhere between inception and 3 months old.

Perhaps we are not souls, but consciousness. And a consciousness that neither needs a body or a soul to BE.

[wynderer]

From PeaceofMind:

'Yes, I believe any potential threat can be diverted; most aren’t because the victim expects the outcome to be bad. This is part of the programming. If I hold a gun to your head, what you do next decides the outcome…you can be scared and manifest images of you getting shot, or be fearless and change the outcome of your illusion with creative intent.'

i'm sorry -- this seems just plain silly to me -- i think you're forgetting about the power of free will of the man holding the gun -- if you're God, well then, so is he, but if he has the gun & is manifesting his God self desire to kill you --??? -- as i say , this all seems really silly to me -- good luck w/manifesting /creating your reality in the times to come, as the NWO grows in strength -- i think i've come to the end of trying to communicate w/all you Gods & Goddesses creating reality

[Wood]

Posted by wynderer (here)
From PeaceofMind:

'Yes, I believe any potential threat can be diverted; most aren’t because the victim expects the outcome to be bad. This is part of the programming. If I hold a gun to your head, what you do next decides the outcome…you can be scared and manifest images of you getting shot, or be fearless and change the outcome of your illusion with creative intent.'

i'm sorry -- this seems just plain silly to me -- i think you're forgetting about the power of free will of the man holding the gun -- if you're God, well then, so is he, but if he has the gun & is manifesting his God self desire to kill you --??? -- as i say , this all seems really silly to me -- good luck w/manifesting /creating your reality in the times to come, as the NWO grows in strength -- i think i've come to the end of trying to communicate w/all you Gods & Goddesses creating reality

I was going to comment along the same lines

[Beren]

I always wonder why so often when asked simple things, some people answer with long replies... Kinda philosophical explanation that really black is not black...and that white is actually black...

[truthseekerdan]

IMHO, a 'soul' is harvested back to the 'Source' after its completion.
In other words back to the state of Oneness instead of divideness.

Namaste, ~ Dan ~

[RedeZra]

Posted by Ba-ba-Ra (here)
Perhaps we are not souls, but consciousness. And a consciousness that neither needs a body or a soul to BE.

there is a light body a so-called soul within the physical body that transcends death and descends at conception into the womb and the world again

consciousness is the animator of both bodies

this consciousness is the ancient infinite One


if you become it then the proverbial drop has found itself as the ocean

[Carmody]

Posted by wynderer (here)
Steven dear soul -- the concept of 'soul harvesting' is NOT all thru the Bible -- whatever gave you that idea? the closest i can come to it is one of Jesus' parables using the imagery of the sowing of grain -- & then there is his imagery of the separation of the sheep & goats, which to me sounds more like different timelines

there are a lot of so-called Christian books out there which come up w/their own ideas, & non-Bible-literate persons seem to get confused between the 2

from PeaceofMind --'However, when a soul is in deed aware of the obvious exploitations and still consents to the abuse, that’s an abomination to self and all of creation. When the extension of the soul/God knowingly allows the hurt to continue to itself, through self or through others…it shouldn’t complain about the unwanted treatment, this has always mystify me… '

does this also apply to women & children, right now somewhere in this world [you can bet on it] , crying & begging for their lives at the point of a gun? do you think if they all sat & meditated & raised their consciousness vibes, the gunmen wouldn't shoot?

& what about the Dalai Lama --shame on him for his victim consciousness, sneaking out of Tibet away from the Chinese -- why didn't he just stay there & manifest a free Tibet, or, at the very least, a free Dalai Lama?

the self-centeredness of the 'you create your own reality' p.o.v. always mystifies me -- & i've noticed that the adherents to the creating-your-own-reality folks are almost all white, middle-to-upper-middle class, & living in Europe, the USA/Canada, or Australia/NZ --places where no war is going on & there are still a fair amount of consumer goods readily available

Then one has to recall or know for the first time that Buddhism was taken to heart by one of -if not the- most accomplished and violent warring races that the planet has ever seen. The Tibetians. You have to break something before it needs fixin'.

It is also wise to choose your battles -- where and when they will be fought.

I don't expect you to 'get it' overnight, and maybe not in this lifetime. Who knows. People have the capacity for rumination and change.

And no, I'm not city folk. I'm originally deep country, in many ways. So I know my way around a gun, a barn, a kitchen, a work shop, a garage, a garden, etc.

Not everyone here is pansy-arsed. It is more along the lines that you may be having quandary in reaching what they are trying to say and what they mean.

If you could sit there, for example..and I do this all the time.. I walk by the factory lunch room, the guys are playing cards...and I call out the next card on the pile (eg:'7 of spades!') and keep walking. Invariably I'm right. Or other such things. To do things you know are absolutely true, for they have happened enough times that it is impossible to doubt them.

I saw those two kids on the columbine massacre on a corner, about 1.5 hours before it happened.. Same for the air France disaster, same dang corner. Same again for the 9/11 situation. All at the same corner. Turns out that corner exhibits some interesting soil charge situations vs the electrical substation there..when it has been raining for a day or so. A bit of investigation turned up some interesting scientific possibilities, yes, with regard to correlation for 'precognition' and OBE's etc. The energy was so powerful, that a psychic opened up shop right there. Then I noted that the energy seemed to move away..and so did the psychic.

What I seem to be getting from this is that you, personally, have not had enough things of such a nature happen in your life that the egoic structure is forced to break down from the sheer weight of the imparted information..... and thus knowledge you are forced to take in as known ineffable truths.

One point is that the doorway fits all -- but the path is individual.

[Peace of Mind]

wynderer, It’s fear that gives the gunman power. It’s the fear and possibly karma that puts you into his paradigm in the first place. Trust you will make it out alive and you will. But be honest here…how many think positive in these instances?
Do you know anything about the tragedy’s you see in the news everyday, all day? Do you actually know their sides of the story? Or do you go off of what the news anchor tells you when reading pre- prepared info from a sheet of paper.

Fear exists because there’s a lesson waiting to be learned. You can’t be your God-self when harboring fear, so face it, dissolve it, continue the journey, and win.

If you want to be harmed just simply think it so. It’s your will over the next, but if evil is your opponent you will always have the upper hand. Most people will say their brush with death was a miracle, not once believing it was the power of their intention…again giving their power/credit away to someone/thing else. This is how the human mind has been conditioned. It’s your scenario because you created it (knowingly or not).

I understand that this may take time to digest, let it marinate for a while before discrediting it like so many have. I talk this because I experience this, it’s very real. But you can make it false in your mind just as easily.

I don’t need luck in life, just my intent. I have no worries, or fear the illuminati; they can only do to me what I envision them doing. This reality is so easy, I used to get frustrated when others couldn’t see what is right in front of their face, but I’ve learned some non-believers are examples, and heavy sleepers and I must be easy at times and let people move at their own speed.

I think, in the minds of the sleeping and the awoken it’s clear that our way of living is the cause of all the anarchy, yet we still allow it to exist.

I wonder if people are still looking for help from elsewhere? What species from another world would want to help a specie who isn’t able to help it self? Will the savior party want to take responsibility for a species that lives in fear? I think not. For any help to come from anywhere else the help has to know it will be loved/appreciated. Our examples, our commitments, beliefs as a whole is not showing how worthy we really are. There’s still some growing up for all of us.

My only attempts here were to enlighten those seeking answers. Much of what I mentioned isn’t really that hard to grasp, just common sense when you get to the root of it all.

Live well,my friends, be free,
Until later…

Peace.

[wynderer]

Posted by Carmody (here)
Then one has to recall or know for the first time that Buddhism was taken to heart by one of -if not the- most accomplished and violent warring races that the planet has ever seen. The Tibetians. You have to break something before it needs fixin'.

It is also wise to choose your battles -- where and when they will be fought.

I don't expect you to 'get it' overnight, and maybe not in this lifetime. Who knows. People have the capacity for rumination and change.

And no, I'm not city folk. I'm originally deep country, in many ways. So I know my way around a gun, a barn, a kitchen, a work shop, a garage, a garden, etc.

Not everyone here is pansy-arsed. It is more along the lines that you may be having quandary in reaching what they are trying to say and what they mean.

If you could sit there, for example..and I do this all the time.. I walk by the factory lunch room, the guys are playing cards...and I call out the next card on the pile (eg:'7 of spades!') and keep walking. Invariably I'm right. Or other such things. To do things you know are absolutely true, for they have happened enough times that it is impossible to doubt them.

I saw those two kids on the columbine massacre on a corner, about 1.5 hours before it happened.. Same for the air France disaster, same dang corner. Same again for the 9/11 situation. All at the same corner. Turns out that corner exhibits some interesting soil charge situations vs the electrical substation there..when it has been raining for a day or so. A bit of investigation turned up some interesting scientific possibilities, yes, with regard to correlation for 'precognition' and OBE's etc. The energy was so powerful, that a psychic opened up shop right there. Then I noted that the energy seemed to move away..and so did the psychic.

What I seem to be getting from this is that you, personally, have not had enough things of such a nature happen in your life that the egoic structure is forced to break down from the sheer weight of the imparted information..... and thus knowledge you are forced to take in as known ineffable truths.

One point is that the doorway fits all -- but the path is individual.

so far i have not received a single straight answer from you yet, Carmody -- & i find you difficult to understand -- like, exactly what experiences do i need to 'break down' my 'egoic structure' ? -- & , in your mind, is this breakdown a plus or a minus? --

& --i have to say this -- i'm really not impressed by your self-described psychic skills -- like Sun Bear said, 'If your philosophy doesn't grow corn, i don't want to hear about it' -- i was very greedy for psychic experiences in my 20s , & got them, but came to understand that loving others is more important -- &, being easily annoyed by human beings, i have my hands full w/learning to love

i think i'll not bother you w/any more posts directed at you

[Carmody]

Posted by wynderer (here)
so far i have not received a single straight answer from you yet, Carmody -- & i find you difficult to understand -- like, exactly what experiences do i need to 'break down' my 'egoic structure' ? -- & , in your mind, is this breakdown a plus or a minus? --

& --i have to say this -- i'm really not impressed by your self-described psychic skills -- like Sun Bear said, 'If your philosophy doesn't grow corn, i don't want to hear about it' -- i was very greedy for psychic experiences in my 20s , & got them, but came to understand that loving others is more important -- &, being easily annoyed by human beings, i have my hands full w/learning to love

i think i'll not bother you w/any more posts directed at you

One point is that the doorway fits all -- but the path is individual.

And all we can try and do is communicate.

I've been on the net since long before the net existed via the BBS's and the news and user groups, and beginning with 2400 baud modems. Etc. In all that time one thing I learned is that there will be people whom a given person cannot easily communicate with in written form and have it be meaningful for both parties. And I started out as an ignorant and combative individual in those communications. So I did learn something of use, I hope. There is no substitute for face to face communications, even if all it does is finalize or complete 'Nolo contendere' situations sooner - rather than later.

As for ego breakdown to clear the mind that happens right about when the fear of death is so strong and so deep that it/you feels that it's death -or a 'clearing' of sorts. Right at the full breakdown point. As literal and as real as is possible. This is why the Buddhists teach one-on-one, as it's a precarious undertaking at best. You have to want it as much as you want life itself. More, actually. And it can't be faked, ie you can't fake yourself out. The ego is a wily little barsteward.

As for manifestation of actual energies, it follows the same lines of mental construct as the ego issue.

As for any 'Johnny Wishbone: Psychic Extraordinaire', (x-files episode) stories I may share, I'm not all that impressed either.

Have you ever seen the film 'Dark City?' An interesting film. Humanity besieged by an occupying and manipulating race-on all levels. This tune is based on the film.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=TXgKL3ZpBdo