Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

[Anchor]

Posted by justoneman (here)
I am perfect.

Perfectly imperfect.

When I make a mistake, I make it perfectly.

You can't make a mistake more perfectly than I can.

I prove this to myself daily.

It's good to know this about me.

Well this is super.

I think I will print it and nail that sucker to my wall.

[aranuk]

Posted by gripreaper (here)
I was with you Stan, as I'd venture everyone on this forum was, until that last sentence. Why would you take such a beautiful post and ruin it with that last sentence?

I just fixed it!

Stan

[StarDust]

Posted by the_vast_mystery (here)
If you can't fully understand human baggage you won't be able to handle it, and it'll literally all come tumbling down on top of you the moment you try, just like opening a suitcase accidentally packed too tightly. ^_^;; Your advantage enables you to perhaps see things more clearly "as they were originally intended to be" I make this distinction in language so as to separate "Things as they are" because depending on who you ask "Things as they are" is easily conflated mentally with "Things as I feel they should be." Which is minced with a dash of personal ego, while "things as they were originally intended to be" is a more accurate representation of what you're trying to do. Get the planet back on-balance. The language used is so very important and it's the first step to avoiding conflict by allowing people to keep their own definitions while still expressing yourself.

Fortunately, handling human baggage is an unnecessary task for me relative to my mission. My primary function is to anchor light to the grid; which I am now doing 24/7 365. Once I became activated in my late 20's it became very evident that this is primarily why I'm here. I can't turn it off and I presume I will continue to do it until Source turns the function off or it is time to move elsewhere in the cosmos to take on another mission. I do find your lessons in human communications fascinating. However, they are only relevant to a lesser degree within my secondary task as a communicator. One thing I learned some time ago is that it is better to let those who seek find me when the time is right as opposed to seeking them and trying to teach. The only exception to that point is engaging in random internet chats which I do to hone my perspective and see things form the perspective of another. Either way, communication is somewhat minor relative to my central task. In a way I'm helping everyone in an indirect but important way.

Now that we've crossed over to language I think you need to consider the use of the word "truth." If you want to stick to it, you're going to have a very long, very hard battle to define that word as you know it and enforce that definition among the general population. Yes, it has to at first be enforced because many will not want to agree to what you have to say unless they decide they like you or what you say sounds just like something someone else they like said. Social pressure has to be applied to some extent to get people to line up their definitions with yours. Even then, it doesn't always work because some groups find specific necessity in their definitions. Wiccans may be taking back the word "Witch" but Evangelical Christians for instance, are never going to accept that because their culture's survival depends on requiring certain words mean certain things and one of those is "witch" another would be "Lucifer" and every -stem variation thereof, and another would be "Christ" with its multitudes of variations thereof. This is important because even with the dictionary as a primer words carry many meanings that are individual and not easily accessed without getting to know a person or a culture.

Again, I appreciate your guidance with regard to communications but will stick with my terminology. I don't see a need to try to discern universal truth since I don't seek to convert anyone over to my way of thinking. It is the ultimate respect for free will of choice. If some feel the need to only discover universal truths, then I feel for them since they are missing out on a much bigger picture from my perspective by limiting them selves to what others commonly agree upon. To each their own!

In many cases people do not understand themselves enough to even give you a clear answer. "Detective Work" is always required to some extent, I have to do a lot of it to even keep a handle on my own thoughts as I eventually realized my conscious mind does not actually know "why" I make decisions, it knows why I decide "not" to do something but not why I decide to do something proactively. So introspection using only one's thinking is an illusion since the conscious is just the tip of the iceberg, instead I had to treat my mind as if it was dishonest with me and then I was able to suss out what most likely I was actually intending, thinking, or feeling at a given moment. These are still just best guesses, but they're guesses made through a process of figuring things out that has worked remarkably well at figuring out who's lying and who's not. The important thing to note here, my conscious is not actually dishonest because I'm sure it doesn't intend to make data unavailable for my inspection intentionally to harm or confuse me. But, it does still obscure things purposefully, and regardless of intent by applying a process meant to be used to detect people doing that same act with bad intent, I can figure out what has been obscured from my perception regardless of if it was done in good or bad intent.

That's OK. I'm fine with imperfect thoughts and can use my own discernment to fill in the blanks or simply walk the other direction. The process of thought is interesting but the study of systems of consciousness is far more fascinating, IMO. That is where my true passion lays and where the true understanding of how the puzzle is assembled exists.

The outer perspective is the only thing most of us see, it's an interface we literally cannot turn off or adjust. It is forever there, forever stimulating, motivating and pressuring us. We pay attention to it precisely because no matter what we say or do it does not go away. Sure you could try killing yourself if you really wanted it to go away, but this process is usually very painful, and our society has already loaded up fear the most on the subject of Death so its social acceptability is at rock bottom. People will perceive you as crazy for not acknowledging the things that persistently exist outside yourself precisely because they always can affect you as long as you have a body...and if you don't have a body? Well, you're probably not here in any way where we could communicate with you clearly so it's not like it would make a difference. You won't dispel fear of death without a lot of work, but for a skeptic to deem the outside world irrelevant then first it'd need to consistently not effect you. Knives, guns, etc would all need to be rendered irrelevant.

I suspect this is true for the masses. I have no fear about what others think; thus, it bares no pressure upon me. I live my life in accordance with being true to self. As for how others handle this, well, that is their own experience to process. I have no fear of death because I AM eternal. It's not to say that I don't feel pain when someone close passes. I do. But I have no illusions about the passing of the physical while maintaining the eternal essence of Source. As for the remainder of the physical world, I've co-created one that does not have much negativity in any substantial form provided that one limits emotions from certain conversations to within a specific arena and is mindful about entertainment sources.

It certainly is your prerogative. However I think that if you're going to ever get enough people to do anything differently you're going to have to give in to at least some of their demands. You may feel you don't need to cater to people not like yourself but what you don't yet get is that if you do not get near the whole of humanity in one swoop enough people exist to prevent the others from leaving. Like I said, one or two prisoners may escape but they never threaten the safety of the jail because there are already society-wide mechanisms in place to disarm or discredit anything said if it does not fall entirely beyond the range of any establishment to offer an explanation more believable. It works so well that even when you remove the jailers the other "prisoners" do all the work their former masters did for them.

I guess that's the beauty of my mission - it's a solo one for the most part. I do take on an occasional teacher/student relationship, but those are rare and only with people who have done sufficient work to maintain discussion/learning/understanding at a certain level. And for the most part I'm happiest that way.

Many, but not all people believe truth must be universal. If you want to stick to the word truth you can try adding a qualifying adjective. "Personal Truth" might work for instance. Because when you say "The Truth" it conjures up an image of an absolute immutable stone tablet much like Moses' ten commandments. An absolute unalterable decree from an infallible source that will last for eternity exactly how it is. This is just a perception, but these are the sorts of perceptions you will have to deal with if you're here to do anything more than just make yourself feel better about trying your hardest. People here though view that sort of thing as patronizing (insulting), because while you may want to help, by refusing to acknowledge the kind of help people need (because here, specifics matter very much) or why they need it (past trauma) you demonstrate very little understanding of what they are going through. You might be able to know exactly how they feel or what they're going through, but if the other person does not recognize that they are going to fight you because of what you (seem) to be doing, which is trying to manipulate them against their will.

Again, I find that unfortunate. But to each their own! I know my truth and I recognize and respect the truth of some others. If they mesh by agreement, then great. If not, then no harm done.

The hostility is precisely because of the misunderstanding created when they can't understand you or your POV and is why "catering" to some extent is required. Not in all cases or all ways, compromise is itself an artform and one I am still trying to figure out as I try to compromise with myself to figure out just who I authentically am, and what my most authentic self-expression is.

If people feel the need to exhibit hostility over ideas/perceptions/experiences that are foreign to them, then that is their choice. I usually find in those situations that the mind is not open to new ideas and is best left alone. In those cases, they may be unwilling or not ready for what I have to offer. That is fine. They will find what resonates with them that is in relevant to their learning when the time is right. I have no need or desire to force my ideas upon anyone; but reserve the right to defend them when challenged or simply to walk away if the task will be fruitless.

Be prepared then for the day you wake up to realize you just committed genocide unnecessarily because someone else lied to you for years on end. That may be a hyperbolic example but even people who can read intent perfectly can be fooled by psychopaths. They believe everything they say perfectly. Living entirely in the heart makes you vulnerable to those sorts of people. I don't think anyone should give up caring or wanting to live from the heart but a way to live simultaneously in heart and mind is required to both be authentic and prevent deception. You should take your own path of course, but I just want to make sure you're aware of what the risks are. Because especially if you are who you say you are, you WILL be tested like that and you may never even know it until it's too late.

There will be no such occurrence in my life. I accept the fact that I am 100% in charge of creating my own reality. As such, external influences can be eliminated in their entirety simply by shifting your resonance level and focus to a reality you prefer. As Bashar so eloquently states, "shift to the one you prefer." I do this all the time and it simply works!

Things resonate based on feeling, feeling is emotion, emotion is based on personal perception, perception can be distorted via deception, thus emotions can lie to you as well. Not in the way you might think, what you feel is most certainly real. The lie though is "why" you're having that feeling, it's rather easy to confuse people like that. You can confuse them by making their acceptance or nonacceptance of your explanation effect their chances of survival. Survival isn't just physical survival either, but the entire Maslow's hierarchy of needs. That's an important one, access to all of those things on the chart are ways to control a person because they're all things we need to achieve our full authentic potential and a great many of them depend on things entirely outside our control. Food, water and shelter are one, but sex, friendship and a sense of belonging are others. Your "survival" as a human requires some way of achieving most if not all of those things. So even if you're 100% sure of what your emotions mean, society at large can simply ostracize you and your viewpoint for long enough that you eventually have no choice but to accept it if you wish to remain on planet. It's quite brutal but it works.

I don't agree with your perception. Yes, feelings, emotions, etc. emanate from the belly or Spleen chakra. However, the resonance that I'm referring to emanates from the Heart Chakra. This is where I discern my truth. They are vastly different places for discernment.

First they get you to lie to others to fit in, then lie to yourself so that you forget you're lying to fit in. Once they do it long enough and all the person involved will remember is "This is what I have to do" and they will resist change so long as change only brings pain/suffering. Finally, they'll make an association and adopt the belief that "This is how I authentically am, I don't need to change because I am happiest like this." It isn't how they might actually be happiest, but if they never know of anything consciously other than "If I do anything else it hurts" they will adopt beliefs to support their desire to not get hurt. Anyone who can get hurt, is vulnerable to some kind of manipulation like this.

I went though this process in High School. Discovered its superficial nature shortly after graduation and abandoned it shortly after that. Admittedly, I've not lived a 'traditional' life. I've always moved to the beat of my own drum and have found my own way accordingly. Being a star seed greatly sped up this process and I'm very happy that it did.

Case in point, I had to change a lot of my mannerisms and methods of dress and communication just so that I would appeal to women. I had to do this because if I ever wanted to have companionship I realized society's expectations of me and that I had to find a way to meet them adequately in some fashion or it would deny me any real loving kinship in this life. I've still got a long way to go but basically my choices were precisely "die lonely and insane" or "give in to some of what people want." When you regularly get faced with those situations it makes you realize that to a lot of people appearances are very important. So if anything you want or need in this world requires other people to want to follow you then you'll just have to do it. It's not a matter of moralizing shoulds, but simply what people will do.

I recognize that the process of compromise is a normal part of human relationships. Conversely, I find that the illusion of the separation of male/female energies to be very foreign to me. In this sense I find more peace in being alone; although like most humans I do find that companionship is an important part of this experience.

Then you're going to run into the same problems as everyone else. You'll come here, give it what you feel or think is your all, and then be severely disappointed when (if you manage to achieve any positive progress with any human or group) that after you die everything you've done to "help" anyone is washed away and perverted by society at large. You'll come back, over and over and over again hoping to "get it right" only to fail to see entirely why you never could "get it right" and that's because you refused to acknowledge anyone or anything outside of your "self" as true. You can't just believe in your "truth within," you have to believe in everyone's "truth within" and that includes the people who believe "The truth is out there." Otherwise dysfunctional and destructive behavior patterns will eventually destroy or re-purpose everything you put forth to support the status quo. Everyone has to like you and like what you have to say otherwise the ones who don't will make it an explicit purpose of theirs to mangle your legacy.

I don't agree for the simple reason that I don't seek integration. It's simply not impotent to me. It is not critical to my mission and based on my current trajectory this will be my last time visiting Gaia. The expansion of consciousness is happening elsewhere and I'll likely volunteer to move on when the time is appropriate.

"What works best for me" can be destroying other people I hate. "What works best" is synonymous in meaning with "What is least painful" or "What is most pleasurable" and all of those can be filled with destructive and dysfunctional things. You seem to be under the impression that everyone likes what you like or will enjoy what you enjoy. Many many people legitimately seek enjoyment in dysfunction, pain and devastation. They may hate it and want to escape it inwardly, but be trapped in situations that permanently prevent the honest self-exploration needed for them to find something better. When being different can cost you everything people aren't prone to be authentically as they are 100% of the time, especially not with themselves. (Since they need to feel authentic even if they're not being authentic, it's why self-deception is so attractive, it lets you forget that part.)

People are free to interpret those words any way they choose. My take on it is doing what moves one forward spiritually in the most efficacious way possible. If they seek disfunction, pain and devastation, then that is their choice and is as valid as any other provided that they don't harm another or infringe upon the free will of choice of others. That is my simple litmus test for doing what one pleases.

Well if you have no goal then I wish you the best. Perhaps you're "just visiting" then. But if you really care about literally anything other than just being yourself at all costs (even if it kills you) this world will do nothing but frustrate the pants off of you.

My goal is my mission. And yes, I'm only visiting as a volunteer who answered the call from Source to assist. The only frustration I encounter is via people who seek to impose their ideas on another at all costs. But even that is easily remedied by simply shifting to another parallel reality that is in accordance with what I prefer.

It's crude yes, but necessary due to psychopathology. The worst kinds of psychopaths basically have no bearing on any "Truth" beyond "what I want to do right now" and because of that they always register as "100% authentic" because their most authentic form of self-expression is doing absolutely whatever they want, wherever they want, whenever they want, to whomever they want. You cannot read their energy that way because they literally are incapable (even at a physical level, MRIs confirm this) of perceiving any negativity or "hostile intent" in themselves or anything they do, only in other people. At least that's what I keep hearing from anyone I know who "read people" regularly.

I will still stick to discernment via my heart chakra and applying my litmus test to determine what is appropriate for me within my co-creative process. As for everyone else, well, that is their choice and consequences for their own actions when the time comes to reconcile such things.

I've actually tapped into this, and can confirm at least for myself, yes, yes you can, quite strongly. All it requires is playing on survival drama issues that force you back into the box of disbelief. I cannot "stand firm in my own truth" because everything about how I was raised and who I became depended on being able to disown anything I said or did which fell outside of acceptable social norms. If I was not able to do this then if I stepped too far out of line I'd have to battle society at large to gain any acceptance whatsoever. Civil Rights, LGBT rights, look to those fights, that's the sort of battle faced by anyone who wants to publicly change how this world perceives them. It can be done, but it's very difficult and takes sustained effort over a very long generational period.

Good! Yes, it is not easy. I suspect the 'second nature' aspect of it for me is based on where I'm from originally.

I don't enter into any conflict I'm not sure I can come out of unscathed. As such I am incapable of holding any belief I cannot outwardly prove to others; doing anything else is to deny how progress is made in this world. If I want to believe something and communicate that belief to any other person, I must be ready to consider entering into a battle over that belief. Because if anything I say or do contradicts any other person I run the risk of inciting them to make my life miserable just because of their damaged psyche. Science you could say is an "Easy out" because of how it relies on the outside world to make its proofs but it's quite useful (although just one part of any overall solution that would be needed to help the population.)

Yes, I do this quite frequently these days. But I only consider these verbal duals (with some) to be practice and will likely walk away unannounced once I grow bored with it. At the end of the day, they are only words on a screen. I take what is of benefit to me and my understanding & simply discard the rest.

It would depend on how it was handled really. The way to make it work is to present a picture of Jesus so appealing that everyone ignores the parts they don't like because there's so much of what they want. But in getting the Jesus they want they eventually must accept the parts they don't like. It's a sneaky way of doing it, but again, here that stuff works. Of course it has to be consistent and authentic, but I'm sure enough people would eventually say, stop hating gays or lesbians if Jesus himself explained it to them. Of course their acceptance of him as Jesus will depend on him presenting himself to them in a likeable way.

Perhaps you are right. But my intuition tells me that no such figure will appear as that is not critical to becoming a 4th Density being since many of the 'miracles' that Jesus allegedly preformed will be easily achievable by everyone. As such, petty differences in 3rd density such as sexuality and helping one another will cease to exist. They are not relevant when discovering one's true nature as unity conciousness.

Well as long as you're ready to accept that society will still judge you, condemn you, and if necessary even torture you horribly for what you simply appear to be then that's fine. But as long as you give people a choice to "cling to stories in a book" they will if it's the most comforting option. It's just human nature. (The only difference being that each person determines what is comforting and what is not individually.)

I have no such fear since there will be no such judgement. I have compassion for people who still perceive life this way. From my perspective, they still have a long way to go before they reach the mountaintop and can see existence for what it truly is. I suspect that this misperception will cease to exist once the veil has been lifted and expansion is proceeding nicely.

If the entire world miraculously changes around us I'm all for that. I simply am highly skeptical about the possibility. I'd love to see it, but life leads me to believe it won't occur. I can at least say that I really do hope you're right.

Most people are and I understand the desire to be skeptical in this realm of consciousness even if I don't participate within skepticism. The trick is to remain neutral and not to slip into cynicism.

I can't wait for those "other means" to finally kick in then.

Intuitive knowing is a nice skill to rely upon. It is available to all, but you have to learn to trust your heart above all else. In that realm, the rational mind does not enter the picture as there is no need for it beyond understanding how lower consciousness perceives the hologram referred to as "reality".

Jolly good, no one, not even I know for sure how this all ends up. But I can at least entertain myself with trying to figure it all out before that happens. I wouldn't make any difference anyway so I find it the only use of my time that feels worthwhile anymore. Since if everything changes tomorrow then all I thought mattered won't and I'll just be able to drop it.

True, although I feel I have a very good grasp of how it is shaping itself. Admittedly, having an advanced understanding of collective consciousness is very helpful in this endeavor.

When fighting was the only thing that created even the slightest apparent progress here it's just a naturally adopted tendency. People pick things up from their environment unconsciously all the time. At least here, things were decided by competition, elimination, reduction, etc. These are all abstract concepts that hold particular meaning here because historically you could apply them to practical matters and succeed at what you intended to do using them. When those change, well then it's a whole new ball game.

It is an interesting game for sure and it keeps the conversation lively at times.

You can't modify beliefs if your survival depends on holding on to them. Outside of hardcore Buddhist monks I think very few people have what it takes to be 100% focused on compassion while 100% dispassionate about their survival.

Agreed, nothing can be modified when in survival mode. That's why the goal post is achievable for your average being. All that is required is to maintain 51% service to other to be properly polarized for 4th Density living. It's harder than it sounds, but is achievable to anyone who applies themselves. As far as who is keeping track, well, that is Sources task and those tapped to monitor such things.

Anyhow, I appreciate the conversation. I'm learning a lot from this as well. ^_^

And likewise. Thank you for the civil conversation and sharing your pearls of wisdom!

[Maunagarjana]

I am amused by the arguments against Drake and Cobra that include all kinds of suspicions about them, and questioning their authority to do anything, whether they have the right approach, and so on. Let me give an analogy: If Superman were real (bear with me here) and was able to battle the cabal and the negative ETs and banish them from the Earth, I would imagine these people would be saying similar things about Superman. What gives HIM the right? Why, he's not even from Earth! He took a reptoid mothership and threw it in the sun, that murderous bastard! He's disempowering us by solving our problems for us. Now we are dependent upon Superman! Maybe Superman works for the reptoids and is just making us FEEL protected but is really in on their agenda! Maybe he wants to fill the power vacuum and make himself Emperor of Earth! You get the idea.

The point is, most everyone on this forum can agree that the Earth is in really bad shape in so many ways and that some major changes need to happen to remedy the situation. And just when a few people (who are really just messengers for networks of people, BTW) come forward to talk about their plans to actually do something - rather than just gripe, endlessly theorize and criticize other people's gripes and theories - what do they get? They get attacked, called frauds, have all kinds of aspersions cast about them and their motives and their tactics and their aims. And since people are so mentally and emotionally traumatized by having to deal with the state of affairs on this planet, they simply cannot see beyond their endless suspicion. I have to ask some of you people, do you actually want these problems solved??

People say that waiting for other people to make mass arrests is making people passive and encouraging them to do nothing. Well fine, you go make some arrests of the cabal and we'll see how far you get. It seems obvious to me that if there is going to be a revolt, that it is going to have to be a revolt from the top that is supported by regular folks. People have some kind of fantasy about how the cabal should rightly be overthrown. Honestly, I don't care how they are removed, so long as it happens. How you excise or incinerate the malignant tumor is not important to me, so long as it gets done. When the smoke clears, then we'll iron out all the details. Once we can finally deal in good faith without a bunch of criminal psychopaths in cahoots with evil aliens behind the scenes intimidating everyone and rigging the game at every turn, then maybe we can afford to have these quibbles.

One last thing, to anyone who is suggesting that Drake is collecting the identities of people through his poll or whatever in order to set up people, I would say I am not worried. I don't get the sense that this is happening, but moreover, I am not worried about it because I am not a coward. My attitude to the cabal and any threat they may present to my person is this: Come Get Me. These scoundrels hold their power by making people scared of abduction, physical and mental torture, ruining ones career, killing ones family and friends, and so forth. The only way to counter this is to be fearless (not stupid, just fearless...I'm not suggesting seeking out martyrdom.) You have to ask yourself how badly do you want the planet Earth to be freed from tyranny?? Personally, I want it more than I want for my personal well-being or even the well being of my friends and family. All of humanity may not be my friends, but they are all my family. My point in all this is....ask yourself, do you really want the liberation of Earth to happen? Because reading many of these comments, I really don't get that sense at all.

[Referee]

Hey this may be nothing however I thought it deserves a post here in the Drake Thread.

The video mentioned in this video has been removed from You Tube and other sites as far as I know.

Here is AJ's Breakdown.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cT43UbndIVs

[StarDust]

Posted by Maunagarjana (here)
I am amused by the arguments against Drake and Cobra that include all kinds of suspicions about them, and questioning their authority to do anything, whether they have the right approach, and so on. Let me give an analogy: If Superman were real (bear with me here) and was able to battle the cabal and the negative ETs and banish them from the Earth, I would imagine these people would be saying similar things about Superman. What gives HIM the right? Why, he's not even from Earth! He took a reptoid mothership and threw it in the sun, that murderous bastard! He's disempowering us by solving our problems for us. Now we are dependent upon Superman! Maybe Superman works for the reptoids and is just making us FEEL protected but is really in on their agenda! Maybe he wants to fill the power vacuum and make himself Emperor of Earth! You get the idea.

The point is, most everyone on this forum can agree that the Earth is in really bad shape in so many ways and that some major changes need to happen to remedy the situation. And just when a few people (who are really just messengers for networks of people, BTW) come forward to talk about their plans to actually do something - rather than just gripe, endlessly theorize and criticize other people's gripes and theories - what do they get? They get attacked, called frauds, have all kinds of aspersions cast about them and their motives and their tactics and their aims. And since people are so mentally and emotionally traumatized by having to deal with the state of affairs on this planet, they simply cannot see beyond their endless suspicion. I have to ask some of you people, do you actually want these problems solved??

People say that waiting for other people to make mass arrests is making people passive and encouraging them to do nothing. Well fine, you go make some arrests of the cabal and we'll see how far you get. It seems obvious to me that if there is going to be a revolt, that it is going to have to be a revolt from the top that is supported by regular folks. People have some kind of fantasy about how the cabal should rightly be overthrown. Honestly, I don't care how they are removed, so long as it happens. How you excise or incinerate the malignant tumor is not important to me, so long as it gets done. When the smoke clears, then we'll iron out all the details. Once we can finally deal in good faith without a bunch of criminal psychopaths in cahoots with evil aliens behind the scenes intimidating everyone and rigging the game at every turn, then maybe we can afford to have these quibbles.

One last thing, to anyone who is suggesting that Drake is collecting the identities of people through his poll or whatever in order to set up people, I would say I am not worried. I don't get the sense that this is happening, but moreover, I am not worried about it because I am not a coward. My attitude to the cabal and any threat they may present to my person is this: Come Get Me. These scoundrels hold their power by making people scared of abduction, physical and mental torture, ruining ones career, killing ones family and friends, and so forth. The only way to counter this is to be fearless (not stupid, just fearless...I'm not suggesting seeking out martyrdom.) You have to ask yourself how badly do you want the planet Earth to be freed from tyranny?? Personally, I want it more than I want for my personal well-being or even the well being of my friends and family. All of humanity may not be my friends, but they are all my family. My point in all this is....ask yourself, do you really want the liberation of Earth to happen? Because reading many of these comments, I really don't get that sense at all.

Well stated!

[Ishtar]

Stardust, you say that you don’t care what we think of your views, but that would beg the question, why do you bother expressing them to us? Some might consider you a sociopath, or even a psychopath, but I don’t. I know why you keep posting. You keep posting because you are an integral cog in the wheels of the alien agenda at the heart of our governments.

You say that you don’t understand why people keep coming back in here to ‘post negatively’ about a subject they don’t believe in/approve of. But you only see these posts as negative because they run counter to your agenda. They are having a negative impact on your agenda… we are winning this battle, because every time we see through one of the dramas of the Commedie dell’Arte that employs your services, your cohorts have to come up with another one.

There have been an endless number of puppets paraded before us prisoners, their shadows reflecting in the flickering light of our Plato’s Cave computer screens, from the Galactic Federation of Light, The Andromeda Council, the Arcuturian Initiative to the Pleidians, the Sirians, the Ashtar Command… and now we have Drake, Cobra, Michael and even today, a new one: Semjase from Plejaran.

Sometimes the puppets support one another. Sometimes the puppets denounce one another. Sometimes one bunch of puppets goes to war against another bunch of puppets. Sometimes the puppets have even been drugged by their own egos into not realising that they are on strings.

Speaking of the latter instance, Stardust, you appear to have swallowed the channelled material, The Law of One, whole, which, of course, you would be required to do in your role in helping to disseminate the alien agenda. The Law of One is the equivalent of Hitler’s Mein Kampf or Mao’s Little Red Book in this psy-ops war.

The Law of One is the scientific philosophy that has been produced to support the alien agenda. David Wilcock has based his work on it…. but he has at least had a lot of help. We know David well, and we know he doesn’t do his own research. He relies on ‘others’ to tell him what to think and what to write. His over-inflated ego prevents him from knowing the truth in this matter, and so believing that it is all his own work makes him all the more convincing when he delivers it.

But The Law of One is just one of the more recent propaganda weapons in this psy-ops war on behalf of the alien agenda. The seeds of the present conflagration of misinformation and disinformation on the military-owned internet were sown at the beginning of the 20th century by a cabal of occultists, intelligence agents, science fiction writers, psychologists, space agency operatives and the CIA, all under the control of the Freemasonic lodges of Aleister Crowley and Jack Parsons. (Read more about that here).

It’s not so much that they influenced this Age through occult or magic as I don’t believe the Freemasons were, or are, capable of it. They have no spirits to work with them and their lodges are not 'contacted' lodges, which is what that means. They are stuck with merely empty rituals, and so that is what they got good at. It is now more their theatre and dramatic enchantment that is trying to mesmerise us into submission after they were given the world stage to put on their Star Wars productions on behalf of the "entertainment division of the military-industrial complex", which, Frank Zappa told us, government really is. Bread and circuses. It's been working fine that way since Roman times.

And being absorbed in their virtual theatre in the skies has an added bonus, from their point of view. While we’re looking up and out, we can’t be looking inwards and taking care of our own inner self-transformation which is the purpose of human life. So long as we can’t/don’t evolve spiritually, we’ll be forever trapped in slavehood to our Freemason masters, as most on this planet are.

So I hope that’s cleared up your question about why we keep coming back into this thread, Stardust. We care about our fellow human beings, we have compassion for them, and so we don’t like to see them being suckered by the alien agenda. Something tells me you may not know what that feels like... but then, I can only say, you are truly missing out.

[Chester]

Posted by Ishtar (here)
Stardust, you say that you don’t care what we think of your views, but that would beg the question, why do you bother expressing them to us? Some might consider you a sociopath, or even a psychopath, but I don’t. I know why you keep posting. You keep posting because you are an integral cog in the wheels of the alien agenda at the heart of our governments.

You say that you don’t understand why people keep coming back in here to ‘post negatively’ about a subject they don’t believe in/approve of. But you only see these posts as negative because they run counter to your agenda. They are having a negative impact on your agenda… we are winning this battle, because every time we see through one of the dramas of the Commedie dell’Arte that employs your services, your cohorts have to come up with another one.

There have been an endless number of puppets paraded before us prisoners, their shadows reflecting in the flickering light of our Plato’s Cave computer screens, from the Galactic Federation of Light, The Andromeda Council, the Arcuturian Initiative to the Pleidians, the Sirians, the Ashtar Command… and now we have Drake, Cobra, Michael and even today, a new one: Semjase from Plejaran.

Sometimes the puppets support one another. Sometimes the puppets denounce one another. Sometimes one bunch of puppets goes to war against another bunch of puppets. Sometimes the puppets have even been drugged by their own egos into not realising that they are on strings.

Speaking of the latter instance, Stardust, you appear to have swallowed the channelled material, The Law of One, whole, which, of course, you would be required to do in your role in helping to disseminate the alien agenda. The Law of One is the equivalent of Hitler’s Mein Kampf or Mao’s Little Red Book in this psy-ops war.

The Law of One is the scientific philosophy that has been produced to support the alien agenda. David Wilcock has based his work on it…. but he has at least had a lot of help. We know David well, and we know he doesn’t do his own research. He relies on ‘others’ to tell him what to think and what to write. His over-inflated ego prevents him from knowing the truth in this matter, and so believing that it is all his own work makes him all the more convincing when he delivers it.

But The Law of One is just one of the more recent propaganda weapons in this psy-ops war on behalf of the alien agenda. The seeds of the present conflagration of misinformation and disinformation on the military-owned internet were sown at the beginning of the 20th century by a cabal of occultists, intelligence agents, science fiction writers, psychologists, space agency operatives and the CIA, all under the control of the Freemasonic lodges of Aleister Crowley and Jack Parsons. (Read more about that here).

It’s not so much that they influenced this Age through occult or magic as I don’t believe the Freemasons were, or are, capable of it. They have no spirits to work with them and their lodges are not 'contacted' lodges, which is what that means. They are stuck with merely empty rituals, and so that is what they got good at. It is now more their theatre and dramatic enchantment that is trying to mesmerise us into submission after they were given the world stage to put on their Star Wars productions on behalf of the "entertainment division of the military-industrial complex", which, Frank Zappa told us, government really is. Bread and circuses. It's been working fine that way since Roman times.

And being absorbed in their virtual theatre in the skies has an added bonus, from their point of view. While we’re looking up and out, we can’t be looking inwards and taking care of our own inner self-transformation which is the purpose of human life. So long as we can’t/don’t evolve spiritually, we’ll be forever trapped in slavehood to our Freemason masters, as most on this planet are.

So I hope that’s cleared up your question about why we keep coming back into this thread, Stardust. We care about our fellow human beings, we have compassion for them, and so we don’t like to see them being suckered by the alien agenda. Something tells me you may not know what that feels like... but then, I can only say, you are truly missing out.

Perhaps the single best post on this entire thread - Thanks Ishtar

[Ishtar]

Thank you Foreverfan. This is a perfect example of what I said in my last two paragraphs above ...that we're being discouraged from looking inwards by this outer Star Wars show of the Freemasonic governments. FF, could you give me the link where this bit came from? It's not in the NY Times article. To recap, the Freemason-appointed former prime minister of Romania has just shot himself but while in power, carried out aggressive actions against the yogis.

Soon after this agreement with the USA Freemasonry, Adrian Nastase secretly ordered the Romanian Police and the Prosecutor’s Office to start the biggest action in the last 15 years in Romania, which they named Operation “Christ”. Suddenly, at Adrian Nastase’s sign, after years of peace and harmony, the authorities started aggressive actions against yogis. They watched them closely, harassed and investigated them and even succeeded to arrest guru Bivolaru for a few days, for some strange, unsupported reasons. During the police’s forceful search there have been innumerable abuses and illegal treatment against many yogis, who were robbed of their goods, without any reports, goods that were never returned. Most Romanians do not know the yogis suffering and troubles caused by the Freemasons and A. Nastase …

Anyone is any doubt that our governments are run by Freemasons might want to check out the logo of the recent G20 summit in Mexico, a birds-eye view of a pyramid with a gold cap.

[Hervé]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
New age bull**** mysticism that teaches a person how to flog chakras (futilely) doesn't really teach this sort of thing.

In case you were wondering...it doesn't.

Thanks! One less thing to wonder about.

Now, about the flogging... reminded me of this:

I can sincerely recommend this to everyone.
It's a bit weird to slap yourself in order to get healthy and fit, but it works. It works like a charm.

The explanation of what to do begins after about 19 minutes

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ColmTrUsFXI

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Ha-hahhh!

So, that's what self inflicted flagellation was all about...


From Wikipedia:

Some members of strict monastic orders, and some members of the lay organization Opus Dei, practice mild self-flagellation using an instrument called a "discipline", a cattail whip usually made of knotted cords, which is flung over the shoulders repeatedly during private prayer.[12] The practice has become rare within the Catholic Church, particularly as rigorism is rejected.

Ecstatics and Mystics
Because practices such as starvation, sleep denial and flagellation are known to induce altered states, flagellation may be used by religious ecstatics and mystics as part of ritualistic practices or ceremonies to achieve unusual states of mind.

Altered and perverted by the PTB of those times... as usual.

[Hervé]

Posted by justoneman (here)
Imagine if it was you... yes, you... who was the actual 100th monkey... the monkey that the world depended upon to be the tipping point in consciousness on earth that makes that single difference as whether or not the sun takes care of the earth problem for the universe...

...and you could not transcend the "us and them" complex.

Amazing how so few seem to get it.

I still bet on humanity because love wins all bets.

Nice enforced guilt trip, Justone... smells of some recruiting program replication...

As for your bet, I am all for it too. However, since there are more and more skull-dwelling zombies and less and less monkeys... odds are high.

[Hervé]

Posted by Ishtar (here)
[...]

where this bit came from?

[...]

http://soundofheart.org/galacticfree...-begun-earnest

[Ishtar]

yes, thank you, Amzer Zo.

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by Ishtar (here)
[...]

where this bit came from?

[...]

http://soundofheart.org/galacticfree...-begun-earnest

[Chester]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by Ishtar (here)
[...]

where this bit came from?

[...]

http://soundofheart.org/galacticfree...-begun-earnest

I love it! First this not only proves the plan has actually started, but at the same time proves God is against executions... how does some guy shoot himself in the head to commit suicide and live?

Only if God wants him too.

Thanks, God, for agreeing with me that executions are not acceptable to the otherwise brilliant and universally approved plan... well at least approved by the Pleiadians.

EDIT: - This edit is for those who might have taken any part of the above post seriously - perhaps it was a poor attempt to be sarcastic - apologies if so.

[StarDust]

Posted by Ishtar (here)
Stardust, you say that you don’t care what we think of your views, but that would beg the question, why do you bother expressing them to us? Some might consider you a sociopath, or even a psychopath, but I don’t. I know why you keep posting. You keep posting because you are an integral cog in the wheels of the alien agenda at the heart of our governments.

The answer is simple, I've said it before and it bears repeating, I'm here to exchange ideas and nothing more. You really are a funny lot; thinking that I need any of your approval of my ideas. It's simply ludicrous from my position - As if Avalon were anything else other than a metaphysical water cooler is quite funny from my perspective. You are welcome to paint me in any way you see fit within your mind. Aftar all, that is the way the world around you is perceived within your parallel reality.

You say that you don’t understand why people keep coming back in here to ‘post negatively’ about a subject they don’t believe in/approve of. But you only see these posts as negative because they run counter to your agenda. They are having a negative impact on your agenda… we are winning this battle, because every time we see through one of the dramas of the Commedie dell’Arte that employs your services, your cohorts have to come up with another one.

I have no "agenda" aside from sharing ideas and perceiving the views of others. I have no "cohorts" as you say; since I do not have a formal relationship with any of them. Their actions are simply in-line with my understanding of what is unfolding and nothing more. You are welcome to join the ranks of the "guilt by association" clique, but it is baseless and meaningless within my parallel reality.

There have been an endless number of puppets paraded before us prisoners, their shadows reflecting in the flickering light of our Plato’s Cave computer screens, from the Galactic Federation of Light, The Andromeda Council, the Arcuturian Initiative to the Pleidians, the Sirians, the Ashtar Command… and now we have Drake, Cobra, Michael and even today, a new one: Semjase from Plejaran.

Sometimes the puppets support one another. Sometimes the puppets denounce one another. Sometimes one bunch of puppets goes to war against another bunch of puppets. Sometimes the puppets have even been drugged by their own egos into not realising that they are on strings.

You are welcome to try to categorize anything you wish. But that does not make your assessment correct; as it clearly is not from my perspective with regard to me.

Speaking of the latter instance, Stardust, you appear to have swallowed the channelled material, The Law of One, whole, which, of course, you would be required to do in your role in helping to disseminate the alien agenda. The Law of One is the equivalent of Hitler’s Mein Kampf or Mao’s Little Red Book in this psy-ops war.

The Law of One is the scientific philosophy that has been produced to support the alien agenda. David Wilcock has based his work on it…. but he has at least had a lot of help. We know David well, and we know he doesn’t do his own research. He relies on ‘others’ to tell him what to think and what to write. His over-inflated ego prevents him from knowing the truth in this matter, and so believing that it is all his own work makes him all the more convincing when he delivers it.

But The Law of One is just one of the more recent propaganda weapons in this psy-ops war on behalf of the alien agenda. The seeds of the present conflagration of misinformation and disinformation on the military-owned internet were sown at the beginning of the 20th century by a cabal of occultists, intelligence agents, science fiction writers, psychologists, space agency operatives and the CIA, all under the control of the Freemasonic lodges of Aleister Crowley and Jack Parsons. (Read more about that here).

Anchor's summary of those who have (or have not) critically evaluated "The RA Material" bares repeating:

Posted by Anchor (here)
Most people I know fall into two camps on this:

1) I don't trust anything channeled by whatever means

2) The law of one, having read it critically find that it makes a lot of sense to me (and has a ring of truth, is powerfully transformative, awakening etc etc)

What I have never seen is anyone ever! falling into a hypothetical third camp:

3) I have critically evaluated the Law of One, and it seems false and deceptive to me and I recommend you do not read it!

My opinion is (2).

I have seen also seen a few people who pretend to have read it when they have not really done so, and I ignore these ones

I would assess that you fall squarely into the last category of Anchor's analysis in bold.

It’s not so much that they influenced this Age through occult or magic as I don’t believe the Freemasons were, or are, capable of it. They have no spirits to work with them and their lodges are not 'contacted' lodges, which is what that means. They are stuck with merely empty rituals, and so that is what they got good at. It is now more their theatre and dramatic enchantment that is trying to mesmerise us into submission after they were given the world stage to put on their Star Wars productions on behalf of the "entertainment division of the military-industrial complex", which, Frank Zappa told us, government really is. Bread and circuses. It's been working fine that way since Roman times.

And being absorbed in their virtual theatre in the skies has an added bonus, from their point of view. While we’re looking up and out, we can’t be looking inwards and taking care of our own inner self-transformation which is the purpose of human life. So long as we can’t/don’t evolve spiritually, we’ll be forever trapped in slavehood to our Freemason masters, as most on this planet are.

So I hope that’s cleared up your question about why we keep coming back into this thread, Stardust. We care about our fellow human beings, we have compassion for them, and so we don’t like to see them being suckered by the alien agenda. Something tells me you may not know what that feels like... but then, I can only say, you are truly missing out.

How you waste your time is of no consequence to me and most others. It is statistically improbable that the statements of the detractors will have any sway upon those who choose a different way of thinking unless they were weak minded to begin with. And on Anchor's last note, I bid you good day!

[gripreaper]

The salient point this morning, in my humble opinion, is about either going within and tapping into the power of the divine source field and raising the Kundalini fire of the dijed through the speed of light....



Or, continue in polarized states and outer technologies and outer viewpoints and strategies, based in duality and based in beliefs and judgments.



The PTB are doing everything they can to keep us from going within, and I'd say, so far so good.

[LarryC]

<< It is statistically improbable that the statements of the detractors will have any sway upon those who choose a different way of thinking unless they were weak minded to begin with. >>

That's true and I would add that for people who have been around conspiracy type forums for any length of time, the persistence of debunkers around an issue actually gives it more credibility. If certain issues or people are being consistently attacked in a methodical way, it suggests that there may be an orchestrated effort behind it. I wouldn't say that this proves something is true, but it should make you curious at least -why are they so afraid you might believe it?

[StarDust]

Posted by gripreaper (here)
The PTB are doing everything they can to keep us from going within, and I'd say, so far so good.

Well stated! "Going within" is the essence of the solution, IMHO.

[Hervé]

Posted by gripreaper (here)
The salient point this morning, in my humble opinion, is about either going within and tapping into the power of the divine source field and raising the Kundalini fire of the dijed through the speed of light....

Or, continue in polarized states and outer technologies and outer viewpoints and strategies, based in duality and based in beliefs and judgments.

The PTB are doing everything they can to keep us from going within, and I'd say, so far so good.

Right, since going "within" would handle the Motherf**kers for good! (see post # 2097 and this thread: : https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?38458-Dreamtime-Healing-Using-Holographic-Kinetics/page1)

[Chester]

Posted by gripreaper (here)
The salient point this morning, in my humble opinion, is about either going within and tapping into the power of the divine source field and raising the Kundalini fire of the dijed through the speed of light....

Or, continue in polarized states and outer technologies and outer viewpoints and strategies, based in duality and based in beliefs and judgments.

The PTB are doing everything they can to keep us from going within, and I'd say, so far so good.

I have a slight modification in my own process. I utilize the technologies related to "going within" and at the same time, voice my views which I direct towards fellow spirit beings whom reside (as an equal to myself) in my outer world experience. That view being summarized by the well borrowed quote from Gandhi - "Be the change you want to see."

Specifically, I do not want to see anyone executed which has been reported to be a very real possibility of this purported plan. Therefore I voice my opposition to the plan.

Having said that, I make it more than 99 - 1 that the plan is a creation of a branch of the world's network of intelligence agencies (which are guided in part by the Masonic elite as well as other secret societies and perhaps influenced by beings beyond the physical human experience), thus those who have been recruited into rolls of spokesman and/or cheerleaders (recall I was a former cheerleader) have been deluded. It is possible that some or all these spokesman are aware that the plan is a psi op but perhaps not.

Now, playing out the possibility that the plan is real (the less than 1 in 100 possibility) then an individual must look at the components of the plan to decide if the individual agrees with these components or not. In speaking strictly for myself, I disagree with the plan because the plan includes the possibility of executions.

I am against executions because in my opinion, that would allow the entity(s) that resides within the target human to escape. In addition, the energy created by executions is the exact type of energy we wish to diminish in our current and future experience on earth, thus to execute anyone is illogical.

I recommend anyone who has been on board with this plan go back to mystery school and get a clue.

I might add (opinion only) that unless one does the inner work, the outer work only throws fuel on the fire... thus it starts from within. In addition, the degree of effectiveness of one's outer work is directly proportional to the success one achieves within.

justoneman