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    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Quote Posted by justoneman (here)
    Imagine if it was you... yes, you... who was the actual 100th monkey... the monkey that the world depended upon to be the tipping point in consciousness on earth that makes that single difference as whether or not the sun takes care of the earth problem for the universe...

    ...and you could not transcend the "us and them" complex.

    Amazing how so few seem to get it.

    I still bet on humanity because love wins all bets.
    Nice enforced guilt trip, Justone... smells of some recruiting program replication...

    As for your bet, I am all for it too. However, since there are more and more skull-dwelling zombies and less and less monkeys... odds are high.
    Hi Amzer Zo - my intention was not to incite guilt. My intention was to point out that we, collectively create the world we experience and at the same time, the only one in the world experience I have actual, 100% responsibility for, is myself. Thus if I do not do my best to break free of the old paradigm within me which I believe is responsible for me being within this experience in the first place, then how can I possibly expect to see a better world, much less leave the world better for my children?

    And it is my view that the specific foundational error within my old paradigm boils down to the fact that I always saw victims and victimizers and very few who seemed outside of that dynamic. And then I realized that if I am honest with myself, the only times I have ever been a victim is when I have allowed myself to be a victim - that I somehow agreed to it at some level of my being... or that I wasn't equipped with what I needed to avoid being a victim. And since I am equally not interested in being a victimizer, I realized that there must be a third component I never considered... that being the role where I am neither victim nor victimizer.

    Through my discovery that there could indeed be this third possibility, I suddenly found myself being this third possibility. Once I realized I was, indeed neither victimizer nor victim, I suddenly realized I had transcended the us/them dynamic.

    I was simply hoping to share that there is this third possibility and that the more of us who enter into this third form of experience might be the difference maker as to what our collective experience plays out to be.

    I used a much shorter set of words to attempt to make that point.

    I will try another brief set of words... We have all heard the phrase, "You are your own worst enemy."

    When I realized I had transcended the us/them dynamic, the voice inside suggested I alter that phrase to something more applicable to my new point of view.

    "Justone... you aren't your own worst enemy, you are your only enemy."

    justonegoofball
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    Whether done by white, black or any color of hats, executions would still be an immolation to the "gods" as with any war, it doesn't matter who gets killed as long as it's a lot....

    Edit:

    Justone,

    Congratulation on the integration!
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    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Whether done by white, black or any color of hats, executions would still be an immolation to the "gods" as with any war, it doesn't matter who gets killed as long as it's a lot....
    and a.) is precisely why I have made the argument against "the plan" ... and b.) which I believe has less than a 1 in 100 chance to actually be a real plan as opposed to being some psi op.

    Amzer Zo - thanks again for the Steve Richards tip.
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    And nice summary of recent events is on this ThankYouWhiteKnights YouTube video:

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=Gn7e3...em-uploademail

    A very interesting video -- (and this is pretty short) -- came out today with Duncan O'Finian. Check out the "demon cloud" -- whoa...!!!

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=LIJkg...em-uploademail

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    I have mixed feelings about Duncan. I like him and yet I don't necessarily trust him. I find it rather insulting that if anyone criticized what someone who goes into the public arena giving seminars and teaching spiritual warfare is somehow negative and serving their master who apparently is the evil one. Critical thinking is a must. Does it mean not to hope for change that is positive? Of course not, but simply sucking on the pablum filled bottles of presentations geared to create a unified group is dangerous and it is how people accumulate power. It's amazing taht the same people who decry religion are apparently using the same tactics as those used by various religious groups.

    Unity is wonderful. Just question the foundation and message. Is it coming from a place of a humble heart and spirit or is it coming from a puffed up arrogant heart. I am not saying Duncan is arrogant or wrong. I am saying that the declaring of others who are examining things critically as negative and serving the source of evil in the universe is not a message I particularly like. I happen to know that Duncan and I come from a very similar spiritual warfare background and he does speak the truth in what we are up against. I am curious if anyone attended that gathering what hands on work did you all do to gain experience? How were the negative entities approached or summoned to do battle against them.

    That sort of activity is critical to foundations, and I would like to know what happened at Duncan's event if anyone can share.

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    NOTE: The "summary of recent events" YouTube video (which is really an audio) includes an interview with Bob Dean and clips of Drake, Sheldon Nidle and others. GOOD STUFF...!

    A quote from the video with Duncan O'Finian responding to a blogger that accused him and those like him as "spreading false hope":

    "Without hope, you've already given up. Without hope, you've already lost....This is not false hope....There is always hope....And we are most certainly not fearmongers." -- Duncan O'Finian

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    Quote Posted by Avocadess (here)
    And nice summary of recent events is on this ThankYouWhiteKnights YouTube video:

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=Gn7e3...em-uploademail

    A very interesting video -- (and this is pretty short) -- came out today with Duncan O'Finian. Check out the "demon cloud" -- whoa...!!!

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=LIJkg...em-uploademail
    As Duncan says, if you have no hope you have already given up, if you have no hope you are already lost.
    Randy said the people that criticise they don't understand and they are doing the work of the elite/cabal.

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    I am not altogether certain that Duncan is referring to Drake, Wilcocks and company but it was a nice try.

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    Quote Posted by Avocadess (here)
    A very interesting video -- (and this is pretty short) -- came out today with Duncan O'Finian. Check out the "demon cloud" -- whoa...!!!
    Fortunately there have been more than just "demon clouds" forming. Check this out from August 1, 2011:

    Face Seen In Clouds (Huffington Post)



    Start the video at approximately 1:20 to see the face form.

    I am A Simple Human being.

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    Quote Posted by aranuk (here)
    Quote Posted by Avocadess (here)
    And nice summary of recent events is on this ThankYouWhiteKnights YouTube video:

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=Gn7e3...em-uploademail

    A very interesting video -- (and this is pretty short) -- came out today with Duncan O'Finian. Check out the "demon cloud" -- whoa...!!!

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=LIJkg...em-uploademail
    As Duncan says, if you have no hope you have already given up, if you have no hope you are already lost.
    Randy said the people that criticise they don't understand and they are doing the work of the elite/cabal.

    Stan
    The real question becomes, if understanding is the problem why can the situation not be suitably explained? Asking for support without appraising one of all of the necessary details is the same sort of thing the military does to get their soldiers to carry out missions they might normally object to. You give them a nice sounding cover story, send them in, and only after they're dropped into enemy territory with "no support" is the mission revealed. At that point it's either "do it" or "get left there by HQ."

    I feel highly suspicious about anyone professing to be here on behalf of a greater cause yet cannot articulate sufficiently what they are doing, why they are here, and why it is necessary. Yes, there are people who criticize just for criticism's sake but "stupid questions" should be easily dismissed by a well-informed source. After all, if this is really all for the greater good then why can't they tell us everything? If they have such a need for "security" that they have to do the same sort of withholding our government does in the military it really doesn't sound like their organizational structure is any different than ours. (Meet the New Boss, same as the Old Boss...only now with neon skin! ;p)

    I'd also say that if these aliens were really so compassionate they would understand fully the type of pain that leads one to be so skeptical. (Being lied to collectively for generations.) Instead they stare at us in amazement and tell us we're the ones doing it wrong? If they understood how people handle these situations they'd know that you do not approach someone with something like a PTSD (or equivalent anxiety disorder) experience by first telling them "You should all just stop right now. Why can't you stop? Why won't you listen to me?!" Which is the tone I'd been noticing in a lot of channeled messages lately.

    It's not explicitly said but it's the general mood I get from reading the latest ones. Making comments about how we should just "Hold the light at all costs" and acting as if painful or traumatic experiences can just be immediately wished away displays a very poor understanding of human psychology. If they can't demonstrate sufficient understanding, then it just makes one question their real motives. How can they ask us to help them if they can't even understand us? Doesn't that mean they might, in fact, NOT know what's best for us? Since if they did then would've sent their "light workers" in knowing full well what they were facing. After all, if they exist outside of time they should be able to micro-manage the entire life experience for every person sent in. Sort of like how Ben Affleck in the terrible movie Paycheck was able to use a time viewing device to figure out exactly which items he'd need to give himself to miraculously "save the world."

    Seems someone outside of time could plan for all of that stuff, and yet they aren't. They keep asking us to focus on the light and invite them in, might mean they're not in fact who they say they are. Of course, if I turn out to be wrong I'll be the first to apologize. (And I really hope I am wrong) but from where things are standing it just seems like too much doesn't make sense.

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    Inviting anything, higher self/ higher intelligently speaking really a bad idea that sovereign people don't indulge in.

    Over the last two thousand (and more) years that is basically what has gotten us in the mess that we are in, by making agreement to certain forms of propaganda. Nothing should be agreed to without full disclosure ---the number one thing that people keep close to hand when attempting to regain sovereignty.

    You'd think "faith" would have gotten a bit old by now its old paradigm programming that we should just 'have faith' because someone's story excites us.

    It doesn't make sense and you KNOW it doesn't so trust your own knowingness.

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    Thanks to David for letting me know these two following links weren't working. They are fixed now!

    And nice summary of recent events is on this ThankYouWhiteKnights YouTube video which includes clips from Drake, Nidle and others as well as a new interview with Bob Dean:

    http://alturl.com/v7vr6

    A very interesting video -- (and this is pretty short) -- came out today with Duncan O'Finian. Check out the "demon cloud" -- whoa...!!!

    http://alturl.com/yjztk

    Wishing you the best day EVER..!!

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    God Bless You Bob Dean.

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    Quote Posted by the_vast_mystery (here)
    Quote Posted by aranuk (here)
    Quote Posted by Avocadess (here)
    And nice summary of recent events is on this ThankYouWhiteKnights YouTube video:

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=Gn7e3...em-uploademail

    A very interesting video -- (and this is pretty short) -- came out today with Duncan O'Finian. Check out the "demon cloud" -- whoa...!!!

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=LIJkg...em-uploademail
    As Duncan says, if you have no hope you have already given up, if you have no hope you are already lost.
    Randy said the people that criticise they don't understand and they are doing the work of the elite/cabal.

    Stan
    The real question becomes, if understanding is the problem why can the situation not be suitably explained? Asking for support without appraising one of all of the necessary details is the same sort of thing the military does to get their soldiers to carry out missions they might normally object to. You give them a nice sounding cover story, send them in, and only after they're dropped into enemy territory with "no support" is the mission revealed. At that point it's either "do it" or "get left there by HQ."

    I feel highly suspicious about anyone professing to be here on behalf of a greater cause yet cannot articulate sufficiently what they are doing, why they are here, and why it is necessary. Yes, there are people who criticize just for criticism's sake but "stupid questions" should be easily dismissed by a well-informed source. After all, if this is really all for the greater good then why can't they tell us everything? If they have such a need for "security" that they have to do the same sort of withholding our government does in the military it really doesn't sound like their organizational structure is any different than ours. (Meet the New Boss, same as the Old Boss...only now with neon skin! ;p)

    I'd also say that if these aliens were really so compassionate they would understand fully the type of pain that leads one to be so skeptical. (Being lied to collectively for generations.) Instead they stare at us in amazement and tell us we're the ones doing it wrong? If they understood how people handle these situations they'd know that you do not approach someone with something like a PTSD (or equivalent anxiety disorder) experience by first telling them "You should all just stop right now. Why can't you stop? Why won't you listen to me?!" Which is the tone I'd been noticing in a lot of channeled messages lately.

    It's not explicitly said but it's the general mood I get from reading the latest ones. Making comments about how we should just "Hold the light at all costs" and acting as if painful or traumatic experiences can just be immediately wished away displays a very poor understanding of human psychology. If they can't demonstrate sufficient understanding, then it just makes one question their real motives. How can they ask us to help them if they can't even understand us? Doesn't that mean they might, in fact, NOT know what's best for us? Since if they did then would've sent their "light workers" in knowing full well what they were facing. After all, if they exist outside of time they should be able to micro-manage the entire life experience for every person sent in. Sort of like how Ben Affleck in the terrible movie Paycheck was able to use a time viewing device to figure out exactly which items he'd need to give himself to miraculously "save the world."

    Seems someone outside of time could plan for all of that stuff, and yet they aren't. They keep asking us to focus on the light and invite them in, might mean they're not in fact who they say they are. Of course, if I turn out to be wrong I'll be the first to apologize. (And I really hope I am wrong) but from where things are standing it just seems like too much doesn't make sense.
    I quoted Duncan in reference to a blogger criticising him for giving people false hope. Randy made a comment which I quoted too roughly. But I do realise there could be a correspondance with the Drake situation too. I agree with some things you say, but I don't think Drake knows the details, and if he did I would rather he kept that knowledge secret myself. If the plans were to be made public the Cabal with their supposedly off planet/on planet whatever you want to call them, could easily foil any plans that were in place. I played chess competitively for 30 years and I know that if I told my oponent what my plans were I most likely would lose the game. If your opponent is kept guessing he is restricted in his knowledge of what you are going to do. There are indeed times and occasions when secrecy is paramount and other times when it is not.
    With respect to you Vast.

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    The sanest summary of the human condition I have happened to run into:


    Quote How one could put a person in an altered state and control their visuals, their smell, their hearing, their feelings and all their senses; how could a person shape shift on the table before your eyes?

    How could you move a person back through time and have them move into the "future past", where they could predict the future, one-hundred-percent correctly in the present day, before it occurred.

    What is the difference between the spirit and the soul, how can you tell? If I could do this, what could governments do around the world with mind control and could it be reversed? These were just some of the questions that I have been given the key to and more.

    Today, I believe our world is being controlled by another dimension that has entrapped the spirit of man into its game; and when you enter the game of another, you are governed by the laws of that game, by the creator of that game.

    The spirit of man chose a new game--in the body of molecular, mortal man. When the spirit entered, he was born into amnesia and forgot who he really was, and now the external control came into play. This is where entrapment through manipulation at the highest level was first created, way back in time; it started with initiations and rituals--which were man's free will into their game.

    The Aztecs, the Egyptians and most cultures through time, have preformed rituals that "call in" other forces; this is usually repeated lifetime after lifetime to reinforce their control over man within this dimension.

    It started when man was offered the keys to knowledge, and to obtain that, through his free will and greed, man entered into secret societies; he was given position, power, and rewarded with financial gain, but what he failed to realize was there was a price to pay--and that was the entrapment of his soul, through dimensions of time.

    What they have failed to realize is that there is a "higher law" that covers all of the dimensions, and that is "LORE" [universal knowledge]...this is a way of the supreme creator--which we are all part of--of keeping a balance, as balance is needed for its survival.

    Under LORE man is responsible for his thought, word, deed and action; and what ever we choose to create in our reality, we must take responsibility for, and therefore, experience that creation upon ourselves through that dimension of time, as it enfolds back onto itself--360 Degrees--for its completion.

    After clearing thousands of people over the last thirty years, I have finally been able to put together the keys to how creation works; how the spirit can be free and how to create your own reality and keep the other forces out of your game.

    This I teach my students, and I have found that eighty percent of people, at least, are being manipulated by other forces, and that dimensions are endless; they are all around us, some are sleeping or dormant, but could be awoken at any time. When a dimension is awoken from its sleep, which could be thousands of years later, it becomes active and continues growing where it left off, just as if that trauma, or event, had occurred only five minutes ago.

    The client has no idea why they are feeling what they are feeling and cannot control what is occurring, for that dimension had never been dealt with, and therefore it is still active within its own cycle of time, until space/time is enfolded upon that dimension, back to its creation, and changed from ever existing--only then, will it permanently cease to be.

    [...]

    Wake up world, we are a multidimensional being in a multidimensional world and other dimensions are manipulating men in power, within this dimension, fear them not, for they have violated LORE and can be easily removed.

    As for WAR, it violates LORE, Man may defend his family and his being, but if his intent is to kill, then reciprocal exchange of energy will be activated, that gives the spirit of the murdered victim the rights to invade the body of he that killed it and take over that body.

    I have had many exViet Vets suffering mental torment for over 40 years, once on the table we have had spirits of Vietcong talking Vietnamese out of that clients body.

    Today there are 700.000 American Soldiers suffering mental illness, the second highest death toll in Iraq with the soldiers is suicide, how many have activated reciprocal exchange of energy and are taking the enemy home within their body? These spirits can then get the soldier to commit suicide and it then moves up line, to the superior that ordered its killing. Main stream has no idea of these areas, nor does it know how to clear them, we do! But governments aren't listening. That makes politicians, in positions they took through their free will, that can stop suffering and don't, violate LORE. Therefore they become responsible for the suffering of others, and as no man can escape the cycles of time, they are setting themselves up for experiences of suffering in their own future cycles.

    We have cleared hundreds of spirits both animal and human from the field of people, some at times were thrown around the room like a rag doll by these forces and at times prior to Holographic Kinetics had limbs broken by these invading forces.

    I believe many men in high places are scared of these forces because they entered into their game and once in the game of another you are subject to the creator of that game through the cycles of time, this can last for eternity in some cases, stuck in ground hog day, never escaping from the game. Until they enfold space/time and break those agreements at their juncture.


    Now, for the reason why the real, actual good ETs cannot do a bloody eff'n thing and why Alex Collier keeps repeating that baby sitting has never worked and never will; and therefore anyone asking for our agreement to come in to "help" is only going to generate more troubles:

    Quote Steve: One of the alien…sorry there, I was just going to say the point you point out there I think it’s very important for people to understand. Because too many people out there, remember, these, these beings that have been manipulating our world have been around for thousands of years. They’ve been manipulating people at the very highest level, so our world has actually been run for thousands of years.

    But the only way it can get in, through lore, is by agreement. So all these people, when they’re calling in the Gods, their guides, and everything else outside of their reality, are giving power outside of themselves to something outside themselves.

    The key is inside yourself. It’s with your Spirit. It’s not outside yourself. The positive beings out there in other dimensions, they know, you cannot interfere with the evolvement of the species. The moment you interfere with the evolvement of a species you enter the game, the moment you enter the game you’re subject to laws of the game, and then you’re trapped in the game.

    The moment you enter someone else’s game, you’re subject to the laws of that game. Everything in that dimension is in what I call the torus field of that dimension. While you’re in your own field, you’re in your own field. The moment you enter someone else’s space, and someone else’s game, you become subject to the laws of that game. And that’s how you have all these secret societies.

    You told me about that incident before with the mother and rituals. I guarantee she would have had something manipulating her because, when they get to that higher level of manipulation, the human species believes that what they’re doing is right.

    Because these beings are manipulating the brain waves of these humans to justify what they’re doing is right. I’ve had people that have sacrificed their own children at rituals, believing it was right.

    Who’s putting the program in there to believe its right? When your brain is being manipulated by another dimension then, you’ll justify it in any form or any way, because they’re manipulating you into that justification that this is right.

    These beings are violating lore and they can be dealt with. Anything that defies laws of LORE can be dealt with.
    The above quotes are excerpted from Steve Richards website: http://www.holographickinetics.net/default.html

    and his interview on "Off Planet radio" by Randy Maugans, Duncan O'Finioan, Miranda kelly and Annalie Cummings (Artemesiaspeaks):

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    It's amazing how different and well I feel after distancing myself from the thread and subject matter for the last 36hrs, and not thinking about it or being involve in this "distraction" and hearsay nonsense any more....perhaps something like coming off of an addiction to bath salts or some other nasty drug is the best way I can subscribe it.....

    I made the right choice for "me" concerning this matter...... and for sure feel less polluted.

    Added:
    When there comes to light any evidence more than hearsay and gossip, or anything other than what I perceive to be as made up stories, perhaps I may then somewhat believe in such a scenario of ET's etc saving the world, LOL! Until then this is just what it is; another deception and or hearsay.
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    Thank you Amzer Zo. This post connected many dots and clarified things for me. This is, in my view, one of the most significant articles I have seen on Avalon and is most important to understand and be aware of! Again my thanks for posting it!



    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    The sanest summary of the human condition I have happened to run into:


    Quote How one could put a person in an altered state and control their visuals, their smell, their hearing, their feelings and all their senses; how could a person shape shift on the table before your eyes?

    How could you move a person back through time and have them move into the "future past", where they could predict the future, one-hundred-percent correctly in the present day, before it occurred.

    What is the difference between the spirit and the soul, how can you tell? If I could do this, what could governments do around the world with mind control and could it be reversed? These were just some of the questions that I have been given the key to and more.

    Today, I believe our world is being controlled by another dimension that has entrapped the spirit of man into its game; and when you enter the game of another, you are governed by the laws of that game, by the creator of that game.

    The spirit of man chose a new game--in the body of molecular, mortal man. When the spirit entered, he was born into amnesia and forgot who he really was, and now the external control came into play. This is where entrapment through manipulation at the highest level was first created, way back in time; it started with initiations and rituals--which were man's free will into their game.

    The Aztecs, the Egyptians and most cultures through time, have preformed rituals that "call in" other forces; this is usually repeated lifetime after lifetime to reinforce their control over man within this dimension.

    It started when man was offered the keys to knowledge, and to obtain that, through his free will and greed, man entered into secret societies; he was given position, power, and rewarded with financial gain, but what he failed to realize was there was a price to pay--and that was the entrapment of his soul, through dimensions of time.

    What they have failed to realize is that there is a "higher law" that covers all of the dimensions, and that is "LORE" [universal knowledge]...this is a way of the supreme creator--which we are all part of--of keeping a balance, as balance is needed for its survival.

    Under LORE man is responsible for his thought, word, deed and action; and what ever we choose to create in our reality, we must take responsibility for, and therefore, experience that creation upon ourselves through that dimension of time, as it enfolds back onto itself--360 Degrees--for its completion.

    After clearing thousands of people over the last thirty years, I have finally been able to put together the keys to how creation works; how the spirit can be free and how to create your own reality and keep the other forces out of your game.

    This I teach my students, and I have found that eighty percent of people, at least, are being manipulated by other forces, and that dimensions are endless; they are all around us, some are sleeping or dormant, but could be awoken at any time. When a dimension is awoken from its sleep, which could be thousands of years later, it becomes active and continues growing where it left off, just as if that trauma, or event, had occurred only five minutes ago.

    The client has no idea why they are feeling what they are feeling and cannot control what is occurring, for that dimension had never been dealt with, and therefore it is still active within its own cycle of time, until space/time is enfolded upon that dimension, back to its creation, and changed from ever existing--only then, will it permanently cease to be.

    [...]

    Wake up world, we are a multidimensional being in a multidimensional world and other dimensions are manipulating men in power, within this dimension, fear them not, for they have violated LORE and can be easily removed.

    As for WAR, it violates LORE, Man may defend his family and his being, but if his intent is to kill, then reciprocal exchange of energy will be activated, that gives the spirit of the murdered victim the rights to invade the body of he that killed it and take over that body.

    I have had many exViet Vets suffering mental torment for over 40 years, once on the table we have had spirits of Vietcong talking Vietnamese out of that clients body.

    Today there are 700.000 American Soldiers suffering mental illness, the second highest death toll in Iraq with the soldiers is suicide, how many have activated reciprocal exchange of energy and are taking the enemy home within their body? These spirits can then get the soldier to commit suicide and it then moves up line, to the superior that ordered its killing. Main stream has no idea of these areas, nor does it know how to clear them, we do! But governments aren't listening. That makes politicians, in positions they took through their free will, that can stop suffering and don't, violate LORE. Therefore they become responsible for the suffering of others, and as no man can escape the cycles of time, they are setting themselves up for experiences of suffering in their own future cycles.

    We have cleared hundreds of spirits both animal and human from the field of people, some at times were thrown around the room like a rag doll by these forces and at times prior to Holographic Kinetics had limbs broken by these invading forces.

    I believe many men in high places are scared of these forces because they entered into their game and once in the game of another you are subject to the creator of that game through the cycles of time, this can last for eternity in some cases, stuck in ground hog day, never escaping from the game. Until they enfold space/time and break those agreements at their juncture.


    Now, for the reason why the real, actual good ETs cannot do a bloody eff'n thing and why Alex Collier keeps repeating that baby sitting has never worked and never will; and therefore anyone asking for our agreement to come in to "help" is only going to generate more troubles:

    Quote Steve: One of the alien…sorry there, I was just going to say the point you point out there I think it’s very important for people to understand. Because too many people out there, remember, these, these beings that have been manipulating our world have been around for thousands of years. They’ve been manipulating people at the very highest level, so our world has actually been run for thousands of years.

    But the only way it can get in, through lore, is by agreement. So all these people, when they’re calling in the Gods, their guides, and everything else outside of their reality, are giving power outside of themselves to something outside themselves.

    The key is inside yourself. It’s with your Spirit. It’s not outside yourself. The positive beings out there in other dimensions, they know, you cannot interfere with the evolvement of the species. The moment you interfere with the evolvement of a species you enter the game, the moment you enter the game you’re subject to laws of the game, and then you’re trapped in the game.

    The moment you enter someone else’s game, you’re subject to the laws of that game. Everything in that dimension is in what I call the torus field of that dimension. While you’re in your own field, you’re in your own field. The moment you enter someone else’s space, and someone else’s game, you become subject to the laws of that game. And that’s how you have all these secret societies.

    You told me about that incident before with the mother and rituals. I guarantee she would have had something manipulating her because, when they get to that higher level of manipulation, the human species believes that what they’re doing is right.

    Because these beings are manipulating the brain waves of these humans to justify what they’re doing is right. I’ve had people that have sacrificed their own children at rituals, believing it was right.

    Who’s putting the program in there to believe its right? When your brain is being manipulated by another dimension then, you’ll justify it in any form or any way, because they’re manipulating you into that justification that this is right.

    These beings are violating lore and they can be dealt with. Anything that defies laws of LORE can be dealt with.
    The above quotes are excerpted from Steve Richards website: http://www.holographickinetics.net/default.html

    and his interview on "Off Planet radio" by Randy Maugans, Duncan O'Finioan, Miranda kelly and Annalie Cummings (Artemesiaspeaks):

    Download MP3s:
    Part 1 (right click and ‘Save As’ to download)
    Part 2 (right click and ‘Save As’ to download)

    Full Transcript -Dreamtime Healing-Hour 1-PDF (right click + "Save as")
    Full Transcript -Dreamtime Healing-Hour 2-PDF (right click + "Save as")

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    I don't like Holographic Kinetics, because it's a lot of the same old, same old, old time religion. The person is walking around quite happy and suddenly they're told that they have this massive problem which cannot be independently verified and that only a Holographic Kinetics practitioner can solve it. It's not much different, in that respect, to those old medicine shows where the faith healers would claim to rid you of devils.

    It's disempowering for the individual to have to go get help from someone else for a problem they didn't know they had and have no way of independently verifying.

    I do however agree that the heart/torus is the answer to ridding oneself of any unwanted entities, how ever they got into one's energy field. But it can be done by a very simple and quickly yourself, by following a simple meditation known as The Ecstasy of the Heart, which gets you straight into the vortex within the torus of the heart field.

    My own experience is that once I'd practised the Ecstasy of the Heart meditation a few times, I'd managed to get deep enough into the vortex so that the entities jumped out. I saw and heard them go. And now after this, I am totally clear. I don't have to keep staying in my torus/heart field, as the HK people recommend, because none of these entities can get back into your energy body once you've activated this technique as you're now operating on a different frequency, and it's one they can't mesh with.

    So here is the more self-empowered way for ridding yourself of any unwelcome entities. It's very easy to practice and it's extremely blissful which is why it's called the Ecstasy of the Heart, and I learned it from shaman Tom Kenyon.


    Basic method
    This first method is for those unfamiliar with the vastness of their own inner consciousness. It is simple but highly effective.

    We recommend you regularly cultivate this coherent state in the garden of your mind.

    To accomplish this, you simply reside in the feelings of appreciation or gratitude, without any reason to do so. In other words, you are not looking to something in your environment or your life to feel appreciation or gratitude for. You simply enter into this vibratory state for no other reason other than choosing to do so.

    This vibratory state creates a coherency in your body and mind, and it is a type of mental/emotional upliftment that acts as a counter-balance to the downward spiral many humans will be experiencing.

    We recommend that you enter this emotional state several times a day. Just a minute or two is all that is needed, but by entering into this vibratory state throughout the day, you train your brain/mind/body to enter into a coherent state at will.

    Many of you will find greater opportunities for frustration in your daily life. This is because actions taken will increasingly not lead to the result anticipated. Even those of you who are intellectually gifted and masters of manifestation may find blocks and unanticipated hindrances, due to no causation on your part, but rather due to the actions or inactions of others, as well as unanticipated problems caused by the increase of chaotic events in the world around you.

    Thus, when you find yourself at your wit’s end, so to speak, if you have cultivated the positive attractor of appreciation or gratitude you can use it to intervene into your own emotional turmoil, for if you succumb to your own emotional stress, the contagion of mass hysteria is more likely to reach you.

    Think of this simple technique as a lifesaver. It’s something passive, you just rest in it, and it creates a vibratory field that by its very nature protects your emotional and spiritual essence.


    The Advanced Technique
    The second technique we wish to share is for those of you who are more experienced with your inner worlds.

    The technique involves focusing on the physical heart, not the heart chakra, and while focusing your attention on the physical heart you enter into the state of appreciation or gratitude (just as with the simple method we gave earlier).

    The effect of holding your awareness in the physical heart while experiencing appreciation or gratitude creates bliss or ecstasy if you hold the two together long enough.

    Once you enter bliss or ecstasy, you become aware of the space between the atoms of your body and your environment. This is a shift of mental attention and is based on the quantum reality that physical matter is over 99% space.

    Obviously, you do not perceive this space between the atoms of your body and your immediate environment through your physical senses due to the limitations of your nervous system. But the non-local aspect of your consciousness that is unfettered by the limitations of your physical reality can experience this space.

    The final stage of this technique involves a shifting of attention. As you become aware of this space in your body and the space around you, you perform a paradoxical feat of consciousness. You send the appreciation and gratitude you are experiencing, both to the space within your body and to the space around you, as well to the particles of matter that comprise your body and the world around you.

    This “holding” of both space and matter in the vibratory realm of appreciation or gratitude will eventually reveal your nature as both an embodied and un-embodied being—as a being living through a physical body or form and simultaneously as a consciousness unbounded by form. If you persist with this method, it will eventually open a miraculous doorway for you, a doorway that leads to profound insights.

    Choosing your method

    In regard to choosing which method to use, we suggest you begin where you are.

    The first method, though simple, is highly effective at protecting you from the contagion of human irrationality and will lift you upward into the currents of the upward spiral, even as those around you spiral downward.

    When you feel you are ready, you can explore the advanced method. This is not a marathon race to see who can get to the advanced method the quickest.

    The only thing that is required is that you reside in appreciation or gratitude as often as possible without causation. This simple vibratory realm will be a great ally to you as you pass through the current planetary transition state.

    These techniques are very simple and anyone can do them.

    I hope you will find, as I did, that even on first practise of the most basic technique, it makes a huge qualitative and quantitative difference to you, and how you feel, and also to your environment. It will not only raise the vibrational state for you and your family, but it will also affect, for the good, everyone around you.
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    Just another perspective.....

    The great Alien Hoax and the UFO community, a highly complex situation
    http://noriohayakawa2012.blogspot.co...community.html

    From the article:


    However, after all these years, the bottom line in my view is that we have yet to come up with a single, physical, solid, hard, tangible, publicly acknowledged irrefutable evidence whatsoever that we have ever been (or are being) visited by physical (biological) extraterrestrial entities piloting or maneuvering physical extraterrestrial spacecraft of any kind.

    That is the bottom line.

    I am not saying that the UFO phenomenon does not exist.
    In fact, I believe that the phenomenon is real.
    As I stated in the begining, one of the most highly respected researchers in the world today, Dr. Jacques Vallee, also emphatically states that the phenomenon is real.
    However, Dr. Vallee cautions us, as I stated in the beginning, that we cannot assume that this phenomenon has to do with extraterrestrial visitations.

    I am also simply saying that empirical science as we know it (the only discipline available so far that we can rely on to determine a physical existence of a phenomenon) has not come up with any single, concrete evidence to prove beyond a shadow of doubt that "UFOs" are "nuts-and-bolts" physical craft operated or manipulated and/or occupied by physical (biological) entities from advanced extraterrestrial civilizations.

    This is why I came to believe that the entire phenomenon could even be some form of a religious manifestation or a religious manipulation by a power which we cannot comprehend simply by physical pursuit, a power which apparently is capable of presenting an "instant" (but only "temporary") appearance or illusion of being a physical phenomenon to the observer.

    Some suggest that it could even be a momentary, holographic intrusion from some form of "parallel intelligence".
    Some others even suggest that it could perhaps be some form of "time-slip", interdimensional "accident".
    We just do not have the answer at the present time.

    But having said all this, again here is the big question.
    What about the government's position on all this?
    I do believe, as I stated in the beginning, that the government and the military are just as much perplexed about this puzzling phenomenon as the public.
    Will there be any disclosure by the government?
    Absolutely not, because the government will never be able to explain to the public the non-physical (or many call it the "paranormal") aspect of this phenomenon.
    If there ever will be a disclosure some day, it will only come from those intelligences themselves, if they exist.
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