Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

[Ishtar]

Thanks for the link, Peace.

Here's an extract that struck me.

BACK TO THE HEGELIAN DIALECTIC

It’s very simple to understand the propaganda mechanism. Have two diametrically opposed sides of an argument, argue, then when the subjects of the propaganda are frustrated enough with the dialogue, offer the solution to the problem. Therein lies the performances being put forward by members of the “Light Workers” and “Patriot” Movements.

Who is driving the dialectic? Major media channels. It would seem that the fantasy world being purported by the unwitting dupes within the Light Worker/Patriot movement community have served their purpose well for those in charge of the money supply and world governance.

We have not been able to find out who has been propagating the origins of the myths surrounding those folks doing the “channeling”, as it were, by what it appears quite succinctly, is that there is a mass delusion taking place, aided by the Internet using sympathetic websites, and the use of You Tube videos. This delusion from all appearances is one of the largest we’ve ever witnessed.

[gripreaper]

[Unified Serenity]

Did you hear that? Drake will let us know when to move, when to follow his instructions! They don't want people jumping the gun again. Again? Did something happen? Did the revolution start here in the great US of A?

Wait, wait for it.... Drake will tell us... ah yes he has several sources and things are "are coming ready to break loose, pop. We were very close last week, but we are continuing the process of negating these people's power."

Phew, I didn't miss it.

Grabs the popcorn....

[Unified Serenity]

I had to bust out laughing..... Drakes wisdom of we need someone with a Military background, could be a corporal like he was, and E4. LMFAO and effin E4? Guess this genius was too good for the war college and studying and following orders. He says he got busted down, and yet they found he was capable of command situation under fire. Really, any proof of his fire fight command performance? He doesn't care about death.... yeh right. How can anyone fit into the same room with this clown and his ego?

[marique3652]

Posted by the_vast_mystery (here)

Posted by aranuk (here)

Posted by Avocadess (here)
And nice summary of recent events is on this ThankYouWhiteKnights YouTube video:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Gn7e3...em-uploademail

A very interesting video -- (and this is pretty short) -- came out today with Duncan O'Finian. Check out the "demon cloud" -- whoa...!!!

https://youtube.com/watch?v=LIJkg...em-uploademail

As Duncan says, if you have no hope you have already given up, if you have no hope you are already lost.
Randy said the people that criticise they don't understand and they are doing the work of the elite/cabal.

Stan

The real question becomes, if understanding is the problem why can the situation not be suitably explained? Asking for support without appraising one of all of the necessary details is the same sort of thing the military does to get their soldiers to carry out missions they might normally object to. You give them a nice sounding cover story, send them in, and only after they're dropped into enemy territory with "no support" is the mission revealed. At that point it's either "do it" or "get left there by HQ."

I feel highly suspicious about anyone professing to be here on behalf of a greater cause yet cannot articulate sufficiently what they are doing, why they are here, and why it is necessary. Yes, there are people who criticize just for criticism's sake but "stupid questions" should be easily dismissed by a well-informed source. After all, if this is really all for the greater good then why can't they tell us everything? If they have such a need for "security" that they have to do the same sort of withholding our government does in the military it really doesn't sound like their organizational structure is any different than ours. (Meet the New Boss, same as the Old Boss...only now with neon skin! ;p)

I'd also say that if these aliens were really so compassionate they would understand fully the type of pain that leads one to be so skeptical. (Being lied to collectively for generations.) Instead they stare at us in amazement and tell us we're the ones doing it wrong? If they understood how people handle these situations they'd know that you do not approach someone with something like a PTSD (or equivalent anxiety disorder) experience by first telling them "You should all just stop right now. Why can't you stop? Why won't you listen to me?!" Which is the tone I'd been noticing in a lot of channeled messages lately.

It's not explicitly said but it's the general mood I get from reading the latest ones. Making comments about how we should just "Hold the light at all costs" and acting as if painful or traumatic experiences can just be immediately wished away displays a very poor understanding of human psychology. If they can't demonstrate sufficient understanding, then it just makes one question their real motives. How can they ask us to help them if they can't even understand us? Doesn't that mean they might, in fact, NOT know what's best for us? Since if they did then would've sent their "light workers" in knowing full well what they were facing. After all, if they exist outside of time they should be able to micro-manage the entire life experience for every person sent in. Sort of like how Ben Affleck in the terrible movie Paycheck was able to use a time viewing device to figure out exactly which items he'd need to give himself to miraculously "save the world."

Seems someone outside of time could plan for all of that stuff, and yet they aren't. They keep asking us to focus on the light and invite them in, might mean they're not in fact who they say they are. Of course, if I turn out to be wrong I'll be the first to apologize. (And I really hope I am wrong) but from where things are standing it just seems like too much doesn't make sense.

This totally resonates with my line of reasoning and I could not have said it any better. I have many questions that have not been given solid believable answers at this point and I find it to be a great concern for me. Thank you for sharing your thoughts here, I was very happy to read it and realize that I am not the only one thinking along that line. My analytical mind has been screaming at me with much of the "new age" materials I have been reading, and alarms bells are ringing in my head as well. How much do we REALLY know about the galactics called "the good guys", other than what we have been told by channelers and people claiming they go up to their ships and etc. Since it has been clearly demonstrated not all channelers share reliable information, for me that is a major concern. I also think it is very curious how the whole channeling phenomena crept into our everyday consciousness and society and how belief in what channelers share seems to be in on the increase. Maybe it is just because I am so old, lol, that what was once considered as highly questionable is now accepted as fact, even without physical or verifiable truth and my question is WHY.

Why are people more willing to believe things just on someone's say so, such as channelers who say they are speaking the words and thoughts of aliens, ascended masters, archangels, you name it....I find that very interesting and am trying really hard to figure it out. Very curious phenomena for an "enlightened" and progressive society. Is this generation being decieved on purpose or being groomed for some upcoming event where humankind is supposed to react in a certain way? Myths that were discarded centuries ago are coming back as viewed as fact like fairies, sylths, and all sorts of unseen entities....Wish I knew the answer to why all of a sudden people are beginning to believe in previously debunked stuff or myths again? Are all the chemicals and crap in the air making us regress and become less intelligent, and is that for a purpose we do not presently know about?

I guess the largest confusion I have is to why people in general are more than willing to believe in the benevolent space family scenario and eat it up like cotton candy and even refer to various aliens as their family and if you say anything negative or questioning then they jump all over you about insulting their family, lol. These same people that are chastising you for not accepting aliens wholeheartedly are not willing to accept the possibility that the actual physical contact that someone may have had with tangible aliens with a "self serving and nonbenevolent agenda" i.e., (abductions, cattle and human mutilations, etc) is called bull**** and the abductees are called delusional? Odd....There is far more physical evidence of bad alien contact than good, so what gives? I am an abductee so you will understand my reluctance to believe everything attributed to "aliens". I mean the government trusted the grays as being peaceful and respectful of human rights, and that was sure a joke. Americans were victimized while the PTB looked the other way and could have cared less that people were collateral damage. Therefore I believe that many abductees will have a hard time with believing the words of channelers and people like Drake and many others.....After being victimized for nearly a lifetime it is hard to blindly trust entities not from earth in my book. It is equally difficult for me to believe my fellow mankind for the most part, lol, because people lie for endless reasons..So how do I know that Drake, David W, Anonomous, etc are telling the truth? Guess I do not do blind trust well at all!! Guess I am just a questioning person whose mind wants to know all the ins and outs before believing anything. But that does not necessarily make people like me a bad person or unenlightened, it just makes us what I would called guarded and cautious. Being cautious of the unknown is not a bad thing in my estimation. Would you jump into a pool before you knew if there was water in it. Would you drink something out of a glass if you were not sure what was in it? Things to think about.

Sorry for the ramble, these thoughts have been building up in my for a long time...Thanks for listening.

[Unified Serenity]

Oh gosh, he could miss the show next week cause he might be on guard duty, LMFAO. Dear god, a revolution vs. Drake's radio show. He magnanimously would miss a show to pull guard duty. I'm all a flutter waiting while I listen to the nail biting drama. This is great theatre, fun show.

Passes out popcorn and malted milk balls.

[SilentFeathers]

The stories coming unglued at the seams fast.....All I here is doubletalk and more BS;
I think my theories about this whole thing holds more weight than anything drake says,
Nothing more the PTB would love is for people to listen to Drake and act when he says act in order so they can test out some of these new laws and legislation that they have put in place the last few years....

This is beyond ridiculous IMO....negative? not me, but this drake stuff is...I'll repeat myself, these folks are playing a VERY dangerous game.....

[Unified Serenity]

Silent feathers, please don't get all a flutter. Those who support Drake are so on the fringe with the nuts and berries crowd to the drunk red neck lookin for any fight. I can imagine the initial boot stompin and chewin tabacco spitting kerfuffle and it will be over in oh.... give it 1 hour of actual "revolution". Most will be poppin a top laughing at these nutjobs.

[9eagle9]

Risk means trust is absent. It's easy to trust any old arse that wanders down the pike because we want to. Getting burned depends on how much of our self identity and our selves into any given proposition.

There's people I WANT to trust...but I can't.

we find it hard to trust ourselves because we don't have our knowingness.

Posted by justoneman (here)

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Inviting anything, higher self/ higher intelligently speaking really a bad idea that sovereign people don't indulge in.

Over the last two thousand (and more) years that is basically what has gotten us in the mess that we are in, by making agreement to certain forms of propaganda. Nothing should be agreed to without full disclosure ---the number one thing that people keep close to hand when attempting to regain sovereignty.

You'd think "faith" would have gotten a bit old by now its old paradigm programming that we should just 'have faith' because someone's story excites us.

It doesn't make sense and you KNOW it doesn't so trust your own knowingness.

How does one ever really know for 100% sure whose knowingness one is trusting? And I am not implying it cannot be known... but I truly wonder, how does one "know" anything ever for 100% sure?

It's my view that in a realm that contains multiple spirit beings, be they in physical, 5 sense, 3D form or not, one still comes across the choice of trusting another or not.

Even if one is completely and entirely alone - one still comes across the experential component of trust - "I am trusting myself" or I am trusting my "inner self" or I am trusting "God" or whoever/whatever one might call it ...

The very nature of life entails some risk, some degree of trust and then sometimes a degree of being burned.

I cannot see life being without the property of this particular dynamic.

justoneview

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Line dancing anyone?

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
Silent feathers, please don't get all a flutter. Those who support Drake are so on the fringe with the nuts and berries crowd to the drunk red neck lookin for any fight. I can imagine the initial boot stompin and chewin tabacco spitting kerfuffle and it will be over in oh.... give it 1 hour of actual "revolution". Most will be poppin a top laughing at these nutjobs.

[gripreaper]

Oh Drake, there has been a lot of information from the Andromedian Council, The Galactic Federation of Light, the Pleiadian Council, The Central Sun, Sheldon Niddle, SaLuSa and others, and it's hard to tell which info we should be listening to. Could you tell us which of this info is correct and we should be listening to?

Drake didn't answer it. I just cleaned the coffee off my keyboard once I got up from falling out of my chair.

[9eagle9]

(snort, snicker) Yer SUCH A bitch!!!!

Hand over them milk duds.

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
Did you hear that? Drake will let us know when to move, when to follow his instructions! They don't want people jumping the gun again. Again? Did something happen? Did the revolution start here in the great US of A?

Wait, wait for it.... Drake will tell us... ah yes he has several sources and things are "are coming ready to break loose, pop. We were very close last week, but we are continuing the process of negating these people's power."

Phew, I didn't miss it.

Grabs the popcorn....

[Unified Serenity]

Comment on show: "GAIA is to be protected at all costs is the wisdom of the galactic family! " So, they allow billions of oil and corexit to be released..... with friends like this we don't need no freakin enemies!

This is the worst rescue group ever! Keystone cops comes to mind:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=iRlZaSWocQk

[Avocadess]

Drake was just now talking about how "militia" is NOT just about guns. It's also about just taking care of others with food, water, etc.

I'm not taking notes at the moment as I am on hold to call in and ask a question...

[Ishtar]

Did I imagine that Drake said earlier that the Bank for International Settlements had had to close because of Neil Keenan's liens? If so, at last he's said something we can easily check out. Because if the BISS has closed, no-one will be able to cash a cheque or get any money out of ATMs as from tomorrow. The banks won't be able to honour any money transactions without the BISS and the whole house of cards will crash as soon as Japanese markets open tomorrow morning.

Of course, Drake is lying and of course, he's trying to cause a run of the banks. That would push up the price of all those silver coins he's been hoarding very nicely thank you.

[gripreaper]

Posted by Ishtar (here)
Did I imagine that Drake said earlier that the Bank for International Settlements had had to close because of Neil Keenan's liens? If so, at last he's said something we can easily check out. Because if the BISS has closed, no-one will be able to cash a cheque or get any money out of ATMs as from tomorrow. The banks won't be able to honour any money transactions without the BISS and the whole house of cards will crash as soon as Japanese markets open tomorrow morning.

Of course, Drake is lying and of course, he's trying to cause a run of the banks. That would push up the price of all those silver coins he's been hoarding very nicely thank you.

Yes Ishtar, it's in the first hour transcript I did. I was transcribing verbatim. I have dual monitors, so I can type, listen, watch the chat room, monitor Avalon's Drake thread, eat popcorn and laugh out loud all at the same time.

I do find it hard to keep coffee from blowing out my nose though when I'm laughing real hard.

[Avocadess]

I disagree with you on Drake's plans and intentions, Ishtar, but then I guess that goes without saying.

I'm still holding to ask a question on the show but if there are 64 people ahead of me in line....well, I'm holding anyhow because I think many people just call the number to listen in.

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Okay. Now the recent caller made me realize what I was calling about was already covered on the show before I started listening. I was going to ask about Alex Jones's alarmist video regarding the military in St. Louis. Here's the link for that video but before I give it to you I want to mention that a friend of mine researched this and discovered that Jones was blowing the story out of proportion CONSIDERABLY by saying all references to this story had been removed from the Internet. NOT TRUE. Anyhow, from what I just heard Drake say I take it that Drake sees the military in St. Louis as quite possibly being "good guys" (though I don't think he really knows):

https://youtube.com/watch?v=cT43UbndIVs

[Ishtar]

Posted by gripreaper (here)

Yes Ishtar, it's in the first hour transcript I did. I was transcribing verbatim. I have dual monitors, so I can type, listen, watch the chat room, monitor Avalon's Drake thread, eat popcorn and laugh out loud all at the same time.

I do find it hard to keep coffee from blowing out my nose though when I'm laughing real hard.

Great job, GripReaper! Best live commentary by far in this thread, I'd say!

[gripreaper]

Oh No, he just said that you might end up with a free house if you go to what lies in your debt.

[9eagle9]

We're sorry we keep bustin' up your Black Panther Party.

[Ishtar]

Posted by Avocadess (here)
I disagree with you on Drake's plans and intentions, Ishtar, but then I guess that goes without saying.

Yes it absolutely does, Avocadess. I assumed you'd have me on your ever-growing ignore list.

Anyway, I hope you to get to the head of the queue to ask your question and we get to hear your voice.

I hope you know I have nothing against you ... on the contrary, mostly the reason that I'm critical of Drake is because he's conning lovely people like you.