A New World Order: Exposing the Luciferian Agenda

[Jeffrey]

Posted by justoneman (here)

I wish we could figure out a comprehensive solution to the archon problem as I see the archontic structure as the actual source of all human suffering. What comes to mind though is that the minute I see an us / them dynamic... us being humanity as a whole or at least non archonically aligned humanity as a group, and then consider the archontic structure at all levels of its being, I fear I have sunken into the us / them dynamic which I then fear fuels our imminent defeat.

Whereas if we could understand the dilemma while at the same time avoiding seeing the archontic forces (at whatever level we are in contact with them) as part of a bigger us its my opinion that we would then be able to transform the type of food supply we provide to the archons which would in turn result in either their adaptation to the new food (the higher vibrational emotions) or that they would naturally die off as we see species becoming extinct on our planet daily.

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The archons would have to adjust to a new type of food or become extinct.

The Archon's exist within the seven heavens and the abyss according to the Gnostics. I'm speculating here but emotions are an astral thing, right? If the astral is the emotional plane then sending them any kind of higher food source would be the equivalent of preparing them a gourmet meal. Maybe?

I've read that typal beings like this can be converted BUT it is very rare (Sri Aurobindo a couple of pages back). Their ultimate end is destruction (or dissolution would be the nicer term). The best thing to do imo is to starve them. That is as external as it is internal and I'm no master at either. That being said I do think the first step is exposing them. It's like the Truman Show (great movie btw with Jim Carrey). Once he started to wake up to his prison (which ended up being a simulated reality) he started searching and eventually found out his authorities. Only then could he break free. It's interesting too because his life was a television PROGRAM lol

Don't go anywhere man you are meticulous and indispensible to the forum. A lot of people tend to think outside of the box only to build a bigger box out of their freshly gained insights. We stop learning when we die, or do we die when we stop learning?

Either way I hope that when I reach my 54 year marker my zeal for the unorthodox will still be intact, especially amidst places where nonconformists gather only to forge a new orthodoxy.

You are appreciated my friend.

Regarding the length of time it took to get to these points, well, I have drawn no conclusions (I'm not saying I'm not hard headed though lol) and the ideas presented developed along with the thread. The basis is just a negative energy/entities that don't have our best interest at "heart" and regard us as prey, that's the only thing "conclusive" (indirectly) imo.

[9eagle9]

Oookay I may have found a little bit of the puzzle in my journaling-- (or I may make this a bit more puzzling)

Transcribed from my own genetic material so I can't say its a one suit fits all situations sort of thing.

The word Majestic. Majesty. Maje or Mage sprang from the same words Ma-Gestic.

Ma of course is a suffix for maternal (grail, womb, cauldron, chalice) all those other poetic euphemisms the old folk used.

Gesti is gestation.

The difference between Majesty and Mon-archy.

Majestic, the Queen Maternal , blood royal until usurped by those who were less illuminated. How did the Maternal Blood royal become illuminated. Passed down by her own mother, royal in-heir-itance. The daughter was always heir to the throne and passed that down through her daughters.

One may have to see how all these glowy chemicals related to sex. We know they do in certain animals like lightening bugs but to cut to the chase if a child that was not concieved without a certain energy during the time of conception (not to be crude but basically conceived without sexual energy or orgasm) would be without spirit. Not fully spiritually endowed and would have to later take blood rites to rectify that lack to become en-lightened.

Illumination is a big part of this and there' a kicker of a word. The true Illuminati and the false Illuminati .Illuminated man. Ill-Luminated? Not well lit...? (lol)

Some failure or falling away or corruption of the Great Union rites that would prompt these energetic conditions accounted for the original race corrupting its own offspring for whatever reason. By accident even or collective psychic trauma.

Also may account for why the Vatican had such a bug up its arse not about sex persay but pleasureable sex which may re-create these conditions necessary to have spiritually (Originated-Source Spirit) endowed child. Or light filled child.

It's entirely possible that male children were to be consorts. Being pre-disposed and born in light anyway they may need to take the blood rites themselves to make for an entirely appropriate illuminated vessel to be an appropriate vessel. Speculating, not meaning to be sexist. It would be those male children who were deprived of their birth rite that steered things less maternal or majesty but to patriarchal.

Rape of the psyche. Taking by force the Majestic or Blood Royal Maternal resulting in off spring without immaculate conception. The chemical part is because all sorts of interesting hormonal (chemical) things are in play here , which means attempting to stimulate one's endocrine system, including huge amounts of melatonin secretion.

The Great Union wasn't about sexual rites but calling forth the already source connected spirit within too to have a child that was born of immaculate conception (source energy present).

Literally becoming vessels of Source to conceive a child in.

This has of course been corrupted over the years and always vilified by the church.

[Jeffrey]

Amrit is a Sanskrit word that literally means "immortality", and is often referred to in texts as nectar. The word's earliest occurrence is in the Rigveda where it is one of several synonyms of soma, the drink which confers immortality upon the gods. It is related etymologically to the Greek ambrosia, and it carries the same meaning. It has various significances in different Dharmic Traditions. "Amrit" is also a common Hindu first name for men; the feminine is "Amritā".

Read more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amrita

From a Tantric perspective, amrita is the female ejaculate known as the divine nectar.

Considering this line of thought, the Gnostics describe that Sophia created Yaldabaoth in an incomplete manner.

One Gnostic mythos describes the declination of aspects of the divine into human form. Sophia (Greek: Σοφια, lit. “wisdom”), the Demiurge’s mother a partial aspect of the divine Pleroma or “Fullness,” desired to create something apart from the divine totality, without the receipt of divine assent. In this act of separate creation, she gave birth to the monstrous Demiurge and, being ashamed of her deed, wrapped him in a cloud and created a throne for him to be within it. The Demiurge, isolated, did not behold his mother, nor anyone else, concluded that only he himself existed, being ignorant of the superior levels of reality.

The Demiurge, having received a portion of power from his mother, sets about a work of creation in unconscious imitation of the superior Pleromatic realm: He frames the seven heavens, as well as all material and animal things, according to forms furnished by his mother; working however blindly, and ignorant even of the existence of the mother who is the source of all his energy. He is blind to all that is spiritual, but he is king over the other two provinces. The word dēmiourgos properly describes his relation to the material; he is the father of that which is animal like himself.

Thus Sophia’s power becomes enclosed within the material forms of humanity, themselves entrapped within the material universe: the goal of Gnostic movements was typically the awakening of this spark, which permitted a return by the subject to the superior, non-material realities which were its primal source.

Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demiurge

Maybe the kundalini/serpent power, if it is indeed representative of Yaldabaoth's power, is created like he was by an imbalance of contributing male and female creative forces (on a spiritual level, but as you have indicated, there may be a more physical component to this). It may not be about actually lacking spirit, but an imbalance of forces (like Yaldabaoth's conception) during conception may result in the counterfeit spirit (related to the Archons) being what is attached. The counterfeit spirit may be the actual spirit with this foreign attachment. So the actual spirit is there it's just wrapped in Yaldabaoth's imbalanced energy (ie kundalini) and that complex taken as a whole is referred to as the counterfeit spirit ... ? Microcosms ...

I think that the patriarchal-dominant paradigm of the world psyche is due to Yaldabaoth's covetousness of the female creative force that Sophia contains, possibly symbolized by the ouroboros (and in a way the kundalini being wrapped around the lingam in the yoni/lingam complex located in the root chakra. This could also be representative of this infection of the "serpent seed" not only genetically but also when the archons casted their seed into the navel of the earth - again, ouroboros).

Some Tantric doctrines may be able to shed more light on this.

[Kristin]

Hey there, just thought I'd post this video... there is an interesting picture near the beginning.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=LIJkgfQPo-s

From the Heart,
Wormhole

[Jeffrey]

Posted by Kristin (here)
Hey there, just thought I'd post this video... there is an interesting picture near the beginning.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=LIJkgfQPo-s

From the Heart,
Wormhole

Kristin, that video was extremely inspiring. Very encouraging, thank you. The picture in the beginning made me hungry for battle, I'm all riled up now! That lady's message at the end really hit home for me too, hope is something I couldn't do without.

Thanks.

[Chester]

Posted by Vivek (here)
The Archon's exist within the seven heavens and the abyss according to the Gnostics. I'm speculating here but emotions are an astral thing, right? If the astral is the emotional plane then sending them any kind of higher food source would be the equivalent of preparing them a gourmet meal. Maybe?

Let me clarify... what I am referring to is what I would characterize as "positive" emotions (if any emotions can be classified as positive).

But I have considered (and experimented with) non-emotional states and have found by remaining unemotional, my life experience is quite smooth and that I have been able to explore all sorts of concepts intellectually without confronting emotional barriers.

But I also discovered life appeared to be a bit more boring without the emotional component so I have also experimented with allowing my so called "positive" emotions to thrive and via a specific process I have found successful personally, I have been able to do so while mostly avoiding "negative" emotions.

Surely your consideration appears to be the safest, best bet, whereas my suggestion has greater risk and may prove to be unnecessarily dangerous.

Posted by Vivek (here)
I've read that typal beings like this can be converted BUT it is very rare (Sri Aurobindo a couple of pages back).

I did some internet research (not that the net is the end all to be all...) and found this interesting link which summarized much of the Gnostic cosmological explanations and found this...

http://www.timelessmyths.com/mirrors/gnostic.php

"One of Yaldabaoth's offspring witnessed the power of the aeon, repented and changed allegiance. His name was Sabaoth. Sophia and Zoe rewarded Sabaoth, by making ruler of the seventh heaven. On his throne, Zoe sat on his right, to teach Sabaoth about the eighth heaven. On his left, sat the angel of wrath."

So considering Sabaoth's ability to "convert" I am hesitant to rule out hope that the tables could be turned on the archontic forces such that if there is any baby there to be saved, we don't have to throw it out with the bathwater.

Posted by Vivek (here)
Their ultimate end is destruction (or dissolution would be the nicer term). The best thing to do imo is to starve them. That is as external as it is internal and I'm no master at either. That being said I do think the first step is exposing them. It's like the Truman Show (great movie btw with Jim Carrey). Once he started to wake up to his prison (which ended up being a simulated reality) he started searching and eventually found out his authorities. Only then could he break free. It's interesting too because his life was a television PROGRAM lol

The Truman Show (IMO) is Jim Carrey's best movie and one of my top 10 all time favorites - note though at the end when he chooses to exit his "dreamworld" the emotions the viewer experiences... especially exemplified by Natascha McElhone's ecstatic hand clapping.

Your personal comments brought a tear to my eye, Vivek, thanks... I just try and be genuine, even when my views shift radically on a dime.
You know how I feel about you and your works, effort and especially your heart.

... - let's keep at it... we clearly share common goals.

justone

[Chester]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Oookay I may have found a little bit of the puzzle in my journaling-- (or I may make this a bit more puzzling)

Transcribed from my own genetic material so I can't say its a one suit fits all situations sort of thing.

The word Majestic. Majesty. Maje or Mage sprang from the same words Ma-Gestic.

Ma of course is a suffix for maternal (grail, womb, cauldron, chalice) all those other poetic euphemisms the old folk used.

Gesti is gestation.

The difference between Majesty and Mon-archy.

Majestic, the Queen Maternal , blood royal until usurped by those who were less illuminated. How did the Maternal Blood royal become illuminated. Passed down by her own mother, royal in-heir-itance. The daughter was always heir to the throne and passed that down through her daughters.

One may have to see how all these glowy chemicals related to sex. We know they do in certain animals like lightening bugs but to cut to the chase if a child that was not concieved without a certain energy during the time of conception (not to be crude but basically conceived without sexual energy or orgasm) would be without spirit. Not fully spiritually endowed and would have to later take blood rites to rectify that lack to become en-lightened.

Illumination is a big part of this and there' a kicker of a word. The true Illuminati and the false Illuminati .Illuminated man. Ill-Luminated? Not well lit...? (lol)

Some failure or falling away or corruption of the Great Union rites that would prompt these energetic conditions accounted for the original race corrupting its own offspring for whatever reason. By accident even or collective psychic trauma.

Also may account for why the Vatican had such a bug up its arse not about sex persay but pleasureable sex which may re-create these conditions necessary to have spiritually (Originated-Source Spirit) endowed child. Or light filled child.

It's entirely possible that male children were to be consorts. Being pre-disposed and born in light anyway they may need to take the blood rites themselves to make for an entirely appropriate illuminated vessel to be an appropriate vessel. Speculating, not meaning to be sexist. It would be those male children who were deprived of their birth rite that steered things less maternal or majesty but to patriarchal.

Rape of the psyche. Taking by force the Majestic or Blood Royal Maternal resulting in off spring without immaculate conception. The chemical part is because all sorts of interesting hormonal (chemical) things are in play here , which means attempting to stimulate one's endocrine system, including huge amounts of melatonin secretion.

The Great Union wasn't about sexual rites but calling forth the already source connected spirit within too to have a child that was born of immaculate conception (source energy present).

Literally becoming vessels of Source to conceive a child in.

This has of course been corrupted over the years and always vilified by the church.

The traditions I have most respect for are the ones that include a genetic component within their tradition's beliefs which are based in matriarchal lineage inheritance.

A friend of mine who considers himself a Dragon Master also told me that a Queen can be a true Queen with or without a King but that there can be no true King unless he has a Queen.

Oh, and this same Dragon Master swears by "starfire" but has nothing to do with human sacrifice.

If I were born in the days when matriarchal rule was the norm of the day, I would have fit well within that framework.

Unfortuantely, we have a very different situation today...

justoneman

[Jeffrey]

This is a long post, not intending to detract this rivulet we are in right now, but I have to post it.

Some videos where posted several pages back about the Illuminati and the music industry (and msm in general). Enter Tila Tequila. Ad hominem aside, if you can pick out the truth in all of these religious, fanatical sources in this thread then you can see the truth in this. Don't be off-put by the valley girl vocabulary, she is trying to speak out. This is very important.

"Hello Dear Ones,

Now, before you start bashing me for thinking that I am “HATING” on Lady GaGa, let me please tell you first that I am not, nor is this post about that. I just wanted to bring light to something that I have known for a VERY long time. Maybe some of you remember me going on about an hour tweeting about these “secrets” that I know of, a long time ago on my old Twitter account. A lot of people knew what I was talking about and was in awe or shocked that I knew so much about it. Other’s who don’t know much about it just thought I was talking “crazy” and “nonsense.” However I feel as though it is my duty to start bringing to light the truth behind what is going on in our world today. So unless you have an open mind, then I digress for you to not continue reading my post. However if you indeed DO have an open mind, or know of these “HINTS” I am dropping to you, then please continue reading. Just letting you guys know, that I will start posting more and more about this, in bits and pieces, as I don’t want to come out and straight up say the whole thing. But if you follow my posts about this, you shall understand my subliminal message that I want to send you, so you can understand what is happening to you and what “THEY” are doing to you.

Ok first of all, do you guys notice how lately, music video’s have a VERY DARK AND SATANIC vibe to them?? For instance a few years ago, pop music video’s were fun, sexy, cute etc. Sorta like when Britney Spears was at the peak of her career and had fresh pop music video’s like “Stronger” or “I’m a Slave For You” “Don’t Let Me Be the Last to Know” etc. You get my point. Compare music video’s from back then until just now. VERY RECENTLY in the past few years. ESPECIALLY once Lady GaGa stepped on the scene, all the music video’s has turned very DARK & SATANIC! I am not joking.
Even Beyonce is now in on it. I don’t want to tell you all of what I know, RIGHT NOW, because “THEY” are watching. As a matter of fact, I had a HUGE battle with “THE OTHERS” for a long time and I must admit, they are powerful. But there needs to be someone, anyone, to stand up against them and for our world to be restored back into peace and harmony once again.
Hmmm… How can I put this. Well, all of Lady Gaga’s Video, even Beyonce’s new video, and XTINA, Miley Cyrus. They all are all of a sudden very DARK & SATANIC! There are TONS of hidden messages in the video and symbols that prove that they worship satan. Please don’t take this as a joke. It is not and it is serious. The Government even now has a way to send out frequencies on your TV that you cannot hear, yet it highly affects your brain and mixed in with all the visuals from the music video’s, you become hypnotized without you even realizing this. That sounds crazy right? Well it is true. I have been studying about this for the past 7 years now and kept quiet about it for a long time, except when I chat with other groups of people I know that also know about “THE OTHERS” if I told you the ENTIRE THING, it will really blow your mind away, but I feel it is SO IMPORTANT for people to know what is happening to them."

"This all leads to the urgency of what the Government knows about the 2012 theory of the World Ending. It’s not exactly what you think. There is a lot more to it, I wish I could tell you, but like I said, I will post more blogs to hint to you little by little of what I know and who I have come in contact with to find out even MORE stuff about this. There has been something going on that set off the “RED ALERT” “URGENCY” signal, so that’s why all the pop music video’s are becoming more and more satanic and the artists involved are joined in with “THE OTHERS” so they know what they are doing. Have you guys heard the term “SELL YOUR SOUL TO THE DEVIL” and you get whatever you want? Well that’s actually true, however the “DEVIL” is real. Rihana, Lady Gaga, Beyonce, XTINA, Miley Cyrus, and yes even Taylor Swift amongst hundreds of others who are apart of this allegiance. It’s all “HUSH HUSH” but I know about it, and I know maybe some of you guys know about it as well. I won’t say it, like I did on my Twitter back then, cuz when I did, all of a sudden Twitter blocked my tweets so no one could see them, and Myspace was also blocking all of my bulletins about this stuff. CRAZY right?"

"Anyway, the reason behind them doing this with the urgency of the music video’s is because they NEED to turn your brain to mush, so that you just become a vegetable, a robot, a zombie, under their command and not realize it. Have you guys seen the the movie “EYES WIDE SHUT?” well it is VERY SIMILAR TO THAT as well as the movie “DEVIL’s ADVOCATE” I’m telling you, this goes way far and beyond just “ENTERTAINMENT” there’s a lot of ****ed up **** going on right now behind the scenes, and conspiracy theories and leading up to the world ending. You would be SHOCKED if I told you which celebrities has the same bloodline as the “DEVIL” God I wish I could tell you more. But for now, i will stop and continue another time.
Just keep in mind next time you see all of these music video’s, if you watch it too much, you too, will be infected and become a zombie, a slave to the GOVERNMENT, without you even realizing it. As for Lady GaGa, she has the MOST SATANIC MESSAGES in her video’s. They used her and use her “MUSIC” and say it’s “ART” but really, its to mind**** you. Like her new “Alajandro” music video. My god, I couldn’t even BEGIN to point out SO MANY SYMBOLIC SIGNS OF DEVIL WORSHIPPING AND SYMBOLS THAT LINK BACK TO THE “OTHERS”.
I for one, was sent on earth from GOD. To be one of his ANGELS to try to help this world that is half light, and half dark. There is right now a crucial War between good and bad. I am on the GOOD side, and that is why they are always trying to get me. Anyway, there’s more I have to tell you about the frequencies they are sending out via your TV, your cellphones and many more that sends radio waves into your brain to start turning you all into zombies and enslaved under “THE OTHERS”
Now I was hesitant to write this blog as I know they are forever watching and are very POWERFUL. But I feel as a HUMAN BEING, people have a RIGHT to know what is happening to them and I am here, God sent me here, to fight this War against the Darkness and these people who practice Satanic Rituals, that is now being shown on our TV for even CHILDREN to watch! I mean, Lady GaGa hung herself at one of the music video awards with blood dripping everywhere! Now on her new “ALEJANDRO” cover there is a devil-like man carrying her naked, lifeless body, with a HUGE SLIT on the side of her and blood. Yet people think that’s ok just because it’s “ART?” no.
Ok well if you guys are interested, i will tell you more. This is just the first level, i can take you deep, deep, deep into this and teach you so much more about the crazy mad **** that has been going on, and who is in alliance with who. You would be SHOCKED to know. But just know, they “THEY” have been lying to you guys for a VERY LONG TIME!
I gotta go now, don’t wanna cause too much commotion about this before they come and do me wrong again. I will tell you one day how they did me wrong because I knew stuff about them. MAJOR stuff about them and once they found out that I knew, the did some ****ed up ****. They own the majority of the media. They can do and say whatever they want, Anyway, enough for now….
As for my fans/haters, who don’t understand what I’m talking about, please disregard this post. But for the people who DO KNOW what I’m speaking of, I will continue to write more blogs like this one but each blog I will leave more and more subliminal messages so that you know more of what I know……

Scary ****,

Forever Yours,

Miss Tila, Angel of GOD."

Tila's 2nd Post (very long):

"CHAPTER 2: TRUTH ABOUT SOME OF THE BIGGEST POPSTARS THAT WORSHIP SATAN & THE OTHERS!

"Here we are again. The Chapter 2 Blog that so many of you have been waiting for! I fear not to write about it so much everyday because I don’t want to cause too much commotion. I want to slowly leak very dark, secrets, What “THE OTHERS” have been hiding from you for SO LONG!!!! Each week I will write more and more of this topic as to not get me in trouble because they are POWERFUL and made a deal with THE DEVIL! So before I move along for the people who already know or have been keeping up with my writings about this evil that “THE OTHERS” are hiding from you, NEWBIES Go ahead and read CHAPTER 1 THAT I WROTE ABOUT LAST WEEK HERE, and then come back after you’re done reading that part to read Chapter 2 of what I have to say about all of this scary **** going on behind our backs! I am here to try to open the eyes of those who are blinded by what is happening to them. A lot of you know about this and ever since I finally spoke out about it, more and more of you are standing up against “THE OTHERS” in this WAR against GOOD and EVIL! Yes, we all know that I am risking myself by talking about something SO EVIL AND POWERFUL, but I would rather die knowing I did something noble or at least TRIED to do something that will help open up the eyes of those who have been blinded all of these years by “THE OTHER’S” LYING TO YOU, BRAINWASHING YOU, CONTROLLING YOU, that all leads up to the end of mankind as we know it. We will all eventually be brainless slaves to the Government so they can start the “NEW WORLD ORDER” that is coming. There is NO way around it. THERE IS NO DENYING THAT THIS IS COMING, and the sad part is, if you don’t care to know about these things they are doing to YOU and the ENTIRE HUMAN RACE, then you are sadly ALREADY a zombie under their spell.

ALL SEEING EYE...RIRI IS ALSO ONE OF "THE DEVIL WORSHIPERS"

The Symbols are EVERYWHERE! They speak to each other by throwing around these symbols to let each other know that “YES, I AM IN THE CULT” yet they think it’s a secret that the PEOPLE don’t know about, and sadly, most of us don’t, until someone with a voice who isn’t AFRAID finally steps forward and open people’s eyes! For instance: Check out this MTV COMMERCIAL. THIS IS THE MAIN SYMBOL OF THE “ILLUMINATI” WHY THE f**k WOULD THEY HAVE THIS ON THEIR COMMERCIAL??? UHHH HUH!

MTV Illuminati Commercial
https://youtube.com/watch?v=bCmJX1hRWW0

However I shall continue writing about this serious subject matter because THE PEOPLE HAS THE RIGHT TO KNOW THE TRUTH AND ALL OF THE TRUTH!!!! My Question is: ARE YOU PREPARED FOR THE TRUTH???

Again, for the brainwashed, zombies that the Government already got, I can only pray for your souls, as you are already infected and they have now control over your brain, hence so much violence and hatred going on. You don’t realize? They had the internet already discovered back in the 1800′s!!!! They have SO MUCH HIGH TECH STUFF that they have been hiding from us for centuries!!!! Yet, you sit there, not educate yourselves on what’s going on, and become just another zombie slave under “THE OTHER;S” controll over you!!! However I still have HOPE that there are still MILLIONS of people out there who know about this “CULT” that has been around since the beginning of time.

THIS THING ON HER HEAD, IS THE SIGN OF LUCIFER. U WILL SEE A TON OF THESE SIGNS ON MANY POP VIDEO;S AND STARS

For instance, At first I was hesitant to post and speak out about it, and expose all of the Devil Worshipers, a lot of them, who are sadly your idols. They signed a deal with the Devil and sadly, you guys fell for it, Let me start breaking it down to you deeper without going TOO DEEP, as to not cause too much influence and commotion, oh cuz you best believe they will find ways to blacklist me and shut me out. As a matter of fact, There is a certain HUUUUUUUUUGE “celebrity gossip blog” that has already put me on their “BLACKLIST” I know this because my friend works at their office. I won’t say which site but to give you a hint, this gossip site also has their own TV show and you know what’s f**ked up? The big boss at that company had a group meeting and he was telling them that things are gonna start changing around the office because he has joined forces with the “NEW WORLD ORDER!” WTF! I A DEAD SERIOUS! ”THE OTHERS” OWN MAJORITY OF THE MEDIA, THE PRESS, THEY ARE ALL IN ALLIANCE WITH EACH OTHER! SO anything they want to put out, they can! It’s called PROPAGANDA! The more you read about “THEIR NEWS” the more you start to believe them, since hey “IT’S THE NEWS RIGHT?” WRONG!!!! There are so few of us left who can fight this war against them because what they are doing to us is against our own will and it pisses me off to have to watch all of these SATANIC, PORNOGRAPHIC, SUBLIMINAL MESSAGES, ALL WHILE HINTING OF CHILD SEX SLAVE IN ALL OF OUR MUSIC VIDEO’S TODAY!! ANd yes, THERE ARE FREQUENCIES SENT OUT WHILE YOU WATCH THESE SATANIC VIDEO’s MIXED IN WITH THOSE VISUALS, U WATCH THEM ENOUGH, YOU BRAIN WILL BE TURNED TO MUSH AND VIOLENCE!

MORE LUCIFER SYMBOLS THAT U SEE MANY ARTISTS REPRESENT WHO WORSHIP DEVIL. BEYONCE IS ONE OF THEM

You know who I am talking about… If not, then you’re screwed. For instance, any regular human being can know SO MUCH about the stuff that I am speaking of, but without a HUGE INFLUENCE OR VOICE, It won’t get you anywhere, so the “OTHER’S” won’t be threatened by you! With me however, A LOT of people DO KNOW me and I DO have influence. Just think of all the artists back in our time that worked for the GOOD and who were ALWAYS speaking out about “THE OTHERS” what happened to them today? They all got killed. John Lennon, Michael Jackson, JFK, Tupac and the list goes on. What is sad to me is that no big celebrities want to talk about this. There are 2 reasons:

1) They are afraid

2) They are part of the Satanic allegiance.

WHY DID MICHAEL JACKSON ALL OF A SUDDENLY DIE? BECAUSE HE REFUSED TO CONTINUE TO GO ALONG WITH THE EVILS THEY WANTED HIM TO DO! SO THEY SET OUT TO RUIN HIS CAREER, CHARGING HIM OF CHILD MOLESTATION CHARGES AND SO FOURTH! HIS VERY POWERFUL SONG “THEY DON’T CARE ABOUT US” was a song he wrote about “THE OTHERS” Now check out this video of La Toya Jackson, deeply distraught that her brother was murdered. Listen to her CLOSELY! She said “THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED” yet she was scared to say whom. But we ALL NOW KNOW WHO! “THE OTHERS” WATCH STUNNING VIDEO BELOW:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=WFPjFyfcj8E

Right now I can honestly tell you a gripfull of people who have signed their soul away to the devil: Lady Gaga, Jay-Z, Beyonce, Xtina Taylor Swift, Nichole from PussyCatDolls, Katy Perry, Britney Spears, Miley Cyrus, and the list goes on and on and on. For those of you who are fans of these people, I am sorry, you don’t have to believe me, but it is TRUE! Hell, I am a fan of some of these artists music as well, however, the way they sold their sold to the “DEVIL” just to become extremely famous, wealth, money, etc is not something that GOD put me on this earth for! Trust me, there came a time where I too, was offered to join “THE OTHERS” but I felt like I had a bigger role to play here. All the money, fame, and all that is not WORTH MY SOUL! I AM NOT NOR WILL I EVER BE A SELL OUT TO GOD!!!! IF I had made that deal with “THE OTHERS” a long time ago when they approached me, ohhhh you best believe that my music would be massive, more tv shows, more money and fame! But right now, I am happy where I am because I am cleansed of the selling my soul to the DEVIL just for money, power and FAME, when GOD was the one who brought you here. Those people SOLD OUT on GOD!

They KILLED MJ, then made his posters with again, hidden SATANIC SYMBOLS IN IT! f**kED UP!

OK that is enough for Chapter 2 for today. Each chapter I will go further into it. So right now I will explain to you what’s going on. “THE OTHERS” I speak of is the “ILUMINATI” and Free Masons. This goes back waaaaaaaaaaay back from the beginning of time. Also where the bloodline starts, and up til this day, you would be SHOCKED to know who is in the same bloodline and cousins as who. For instance, Obama and George bush are actually in the same bloodline, as well as Prince Charles, Brad Pitt……….. **** I better stop now before I get shut down. Ok so I will stop. Chapter 3 I will tell you more. For now, see for yourself. Like I said, I have been studying and following this for 7 years now. The reason why I am speaking out now? Cuz they have sent off a “RED ALERT” that means they know something about the world ending and staring a ONE WORLD ORDER! Soon there will not be anymore “CASH” everything will be made of chips. Chips in your passport, chips will have to be injected in ALL OF THE BABIES BORN IN THE FUTURE! SO they will ALWAYS KNOW WHERE YOU ARE, WHAT YOU ARE DOING! AHhhhhh! Scary ****! I know SOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH MORE I WANT TO TELL YOU, but for now, let’s stop. I will continue in chapter 3. Please everyone. Set aside our differences. This is not about “HATERS” or anything. THIS IS TO HELP YOU OPEN YOUR EYES AS TO WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO YOU AND YOU DON’T EVEN REALIZE IT! ANyone who leaves comments here and take this as a joke or that I’m “CRAZY” well may God Bless you, because that is EXACTLY what “THE OTHERS” are trying to make you percieve me as so that anything I say that is powerful or the TRUTH, the PEOPLE can just brush me off as “OH SHE IS CRAZY, SHE’S NOT TELLING THE TRUTH SO LET’S JUST DISGREGARD HER!”

OH WHAT DO WE HAVE HERE? ANYTHING STAND OUT TO YOU?

Oh yea, I know these things. I am actually a really intelligent woman, THEY own the media, so THEY always report on me and through propoganda, they start to brainwash you into thinking I am not credible so that you won’t believe the truth I tell you about them. Yep. That is their cover up with me. However I KNOW in my heart, that there are still people out there with an open mind and good heart and live for the GOOD and for GOD and saving our country! I will tell you more in Chapter 3. For now, here is an interesting video you guys can watch if you don’t believe me. Remember, PROPAGANDA IS A BITCH! JUST LISTEN TO YOUR HEART TO FIND THE TRUTH BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE GOD LIES WITHIN YOU! GOD BLESS!

NOW I LEAVE YOU WITH ONE OF THE MOST PROLIFIC PROOF THAT THE “ILLUMINATI” EXISTS AND IS HERE TO SLOWLY KEEP THE HUMAN RACE DUMB SO THAT THEY CAN CONTROL YOU, TAKE AWAY YOUR FREE WILL AND YOUR FREEDOM!!! MAY WE LIVE TO FIGHT AGAINST THIS EVIL AND LIVE FOR GOD!

STAY TUNED FOR CHAPTER 3……………………..TRUTH IS HERE! TILA ARMY WE MUST STAND TOGETHER AND STOP THEM! IF SOME f**kED UP **** HAPPENS TO ME, THEN PLEASE REMEMBER WHAT I WAS TRYING TO TELL YOU! JUST PRAY……… I A CHILD OF GOD, WE ALL ARE, BUT SOME OF US, JUST GOT LOST ALONG THE WAY AND SOLD OUT ON GOD……….NOT ME NOR MY TILA ARMY! GOD BLESS!

NOW I LEAVE YOU WITH THIS VIDEO, TAKE THIS BLOG AS YOU WISH, I AM MERELY THE MESSENGER, DON’T KILL THE MESSENGER:"

https://youtube.com/watch?v=sJi2HaJf1VI"

Now, it could be that she was unwittingly participating in furthering this agenda, then she wised up, started asking questions, making connections, and this is what came out. She referenced some sources she had within the industry. Personally, I don't find it the least bit coincidental that she recently suffered a brain aneurysm after she started squealing on her blog (I don't know how long after, between weeks and years, still looking into it).

I don't know if she is aware about the mechanics of fear or not - but her posts smacked of inevitability. I didn't take that as hopeless/helplessness, she didn't let it bother her in speaking out about it anyways.

[Jeffrey]

Regarding matriarchy versus patriarchy and the microcosmic (as above, so below) order of the cosmos. I found it intriguing that according to the Gnostics (may have read it elsewhere too) the Father aspect of God is in the center, like a lingam. The feminine, Mother aspect of God (gnostic Barbelo) is around it, like the yoni. Creation would not be possible without the animating faculties inherent to the Mother aspect. I have read theories that the physical universe is toroidal in shape. Toroidal! Yoni!

Anyways, I think both aspects are equally important in creation but different. Lacking one in creating life creates an imbalance. Cheif archon, imbalanced. Humanity, imbalanced. Balance only occurs to counter something disruptive. If someone pushes you, you regain your balance. Harmony is not possible with these types of entities, these energies. Only struggling to balance is possible with them, struggling for harmony, which isn't their nature. They are imbalanced. Lacking. Insatiable. Parasites. They must be confronted, exposed, rooted out, driven out. This is our land, Gaia is home. Spirit is in Gaia. Sophia has been in conflict with these energies/entities for a long time now, too long. Gear up.

[Jeffrey]

Justoneman,

Sabaoth is the ruler of the seventh heaven - the last boundry between the astral and the higher realms. Apparently this good verses evil mantra is only within these realms that the archons created for themselves. They created the seventh heaven too, it is the highest of the realms they are able to go to. Sabaoth was converted and is very good according to the Gnostics, and many souls were manifested to Sabaoth and his Christ (I think this was during the seeding of souls for the first native races of earth, still looking into that one).

When Sabaoth was created he was said to look like a dragon.

[Chester]

Posted by Vivek (here)
Regarding matriarchy versus patriarchy and the microcosmic (as above, so below) order of the cosmos. I found it intriguing that according to the Gnostics (may have read it elsewhere too) the Father aspect of God is in the center, like a lingam. The feminine, Mother aspect of God (gnostic Barbelo) is around it, like the yoni. Creation would not be possible without the animating faculties inherent to the Mother aspect. I have read theories that the physical universe is toroidal in shape. Toroidal! Yoni!

Anyways, I think both aspects are equally important in creation but different. Lacking one in creating life creates an imbalance. Cheif archon, imbalanced. Humanity, imbalanced. Balance only occurs to counter something disruptive. If someone pushes you, you regain your balance. Harmony is not possible with these types of entities, these energies. Only struggling to balance is possible with them, struggling for harmony, which isn't their nature. They are imbalanced. Lacking. Insatiable. Parasites. They must be confronted, exposed, rooted out, driven out. This is our land, Gaia is home. Spirit is in Gaia. Sophia has been in conflict with these energies/entities for a long time now, too long. Gear up.

Does not the Gnostic cosmologies place the blame for this situation at Sophia's feet? My point is that why does any of this have to be such a problem? Why not transcend the war and include the lessons learned?

Another thing to consider. I have become aware of beings from another world where three sub forms of their "species" get together to create a child. That is like having a female, a male and then another (I have no name for).

In infinite possibility, so much can be explored. It seems the attitudes of the explorers play a role as to the nature of the experience and not so much what is out there to explore as the observer is integrally linked to the observation and this dynamic appears to be at the core of creation.

To break it down further, intention precedes creation and so what precedes intention? Point of view. And what influences most ones point of view? Attitude.

I am an alcoholic so i have some experience with AA. AA adopted several slogans which have, when I applied them, helped me experience a smoother life (meaning those who I encountered have been less damaged). One of those suggests having an "attitude of gratitude" which is... when I allow it to be, my central attitude. Try it out... can't hurt.

One more point - it might appear I was putting matriarchy against patriarchy but actually I was attempting to rewind history a bit and take us to pre-patriarchy. Refer back to the story I wrote in your Drake Exposition thread. It was the beings who introduced the matriarchy who came to earth and "mated" with indigenous humans. So in the good guy / bad guy dynamic, it could appear that the beings who "raped" the innocent humans of earth could be seen as the original "bad guys" (those who practiced matriarchal lineage inheritance) and that later, even worse "bad guys" (those who didn't care so much about matriarchal or patriarchal lineage inheritance as long as men ruled) came in and forced themselves on the original hybrid.

So what if... and I am just playing the what if's here... what if the original interventionists had information through their technology that a geophysical cataclysmic event was immanent regarding the planet earth. And that their desire was to save the soul line of indigenous earth beings through their idea to hybridize which would allow for an accelerated advancement towards acquisition of the technology required for the soul line inhabiting the physical being to escape Earth before the end?

Using mythological metaphor, I see this first group as "Sofias" and I see the latter interventionists as "archons." That would make most of us a blend of at least these three lineages (and according to some, Earth beings have up to 22 different bloodlines... and thus perhaps there are even more)

Just a consideration... but definitely an interesting possibility, yes?

justone

[Chester]

Posted by Vivek (here)
Justoneman,

Sabaoth is the ruler of the seventh heaven - the last boundry between the astral and the higher realms. Apparently this good verses evil mantra is only within these realms that the archons created for themselves. They created the seventh heaven too, it is the highest of the realms they are able to go to. Sabaoth was converted and is very good according to the Gnostics, and many souls were manifested to Sabaoth and his Christ (I think this was during the seeding of souls for the first native races of earth, still looking into that one).

When Sabaoth was created he was said to look like a dragon.

Understood fully - and so then what would be the 8th heaven? The realm above the archontic realms (the astral realms) or is this a new realm added into the existing 12 as you know how these archons work... always adding new puzzles for us to try and figure out.

What's your thoughts on that one?

[Chester]

Here is a good summary of Sophia's role in creating the Demiurge -

http://www.timelessmyths.com/mirrors/gnostic.php#Sophia

Sophia and the Demiurge

Most Gnostics see Sophia or "Wisdom" as the most important aeon, after the Autogenes (Christ). Sophia was important, because she set in motion the creation of the material world.

Sophia was a Greek name for wisdom. Another name frequently associated with Sophia, was Pistis or "Faith". Sometimes Pistis was seen as a separate being, where she was seen as the mother of Sophia, but often Pistis was just another name for Sophia. Frequently, various texts used the two name together, as Pistis Sophia, as in the The Hypostasis of the Archons.

Sophia as the mother, should not be confused with Barbelo, the perfect mother. Whereas Barbelo was known as "Forethought", Sophia was equated "Afterthought". Here we see the text is influenced with these names (Forethought/Afterthought), which can be found in Greek mythology, where the Titan Prometheus or Forethought, hero of mankind, was different from his brother Epimetheus or Afterthought, who married Pandora, the first woman who brought suffering to mankind, ending the Golden Age.

Sophia, probably in pride, tried to emulate the invisible Spirit (Father) in producing Barbelo, by created an image of herself. Meaning that she wanted to produce an offspring, without either consort or the approval of her Father (Spirit). As an aeon, she did have the power to do so, but she wasn't perfect like the great Spirit, or like the other two perfect aeons, Barbelo and the Autogenes.

She was horrified when she spawned an ugly, imperfect creature – a lion-faced serpent with eyes of fire, whom she called Yaldabaoth.

Sophia cast her offspring out of pleroma, and hid her child within a thick cloud from the other aeons, because of her embarrassment and shame.

Yaldabaoth was the first of the archon ("ruler") and he stole his mother's power, so that she wasn't able to escape from the cloud. Despite gaining Sophia's aeonic power, he was weak, but he was ambitious and power hungry.

Since the archons, including Yaldabaoth, were androgynous beings, Yaldabaoth fathered twelve archons, giving each a bit of his power. They were named Athoth, Harmas, Kalila-Oumbri, Yabel, Adonaiou (or Sabaoth), Cain, Abel, Abrisene, Yobel, Armoupieel, Melceir-Adonein and Belias. Seven archons would rule seven heavens and five in the abyss, which Yaldabaoth and the archons created. Each archon would rule a heaven (or the abyss), and created 365 angels to help them.

According to The Origin of the World, there is an interesting account about his children. Yaldabaoth created a realm, called matter. And from this matter, Yaldabaoth created seven androgynous offspring, like himself, to rule seven realms or heavens of chaos. Each offspring have masculine and feminine names.

[Chester]

Posted by Vivek (here)
Now, it could be that she was unwittingly participating in furthering this agenda, then she wised up, started asking questions, making connections, and this is what came out. She referenced some sources she had within the industry. Personally, I don't find it the least bit coincidental that she recently suffered a brain aneurysm after she started squealing on her blog (I don't know how long after, between weeks and years, still looking into it).

I don't know if she is aware about the mechanics of fear or not - but her posts smacked of inevitability. I didn't take that as hopeless/helplessness, she didn't let it bother her in speaking out about it anyways.

I understand the stage she has recently experienced in her awakening process. She was into "discovery" deeply and may never be the same again after suffering her aneurysm.

What is clear in her "rant" is that she was still serving the dark forces just as much as when she participated before she awoke to the first stages of realization. Again, realizing there are "bad guys" and thus then rushing towards what she perceives to be "the good" not knowing that she has been set up again.

Perhaps the only way anyone can ever realize all these traps is to have lived through and escaped from each one of them. Perhaps the key to escaping the final trap is to no longer create any traps.

justone

[9eagle9]

Star fire and or Safire/ Saphire/ Saf-fyre.

The heart of Star Fire was weapon (a sword) held by those who were of draconic (elven) bloodlines. Ceremonial in nature me thinks with a functional purpose which I won't go into here as its not for the possibly squeamish. Clerics of a certain status held them .

Star Fire was energy event, that was prompted by ...I don't recall blood rites or maybe union....what one could compare to Kundalini events but wasn't.

Posted by justoneman (here)

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Oookay I may have found a little bit of the puzzle in my journaling-- (or I may make this a bit more puzzling)

Transcribed from my own genetic material so I can't say its a one suit fits all situations sort of thing.

The word Majestic. Majesty. Maje or Mage sprang from the same words Ma-Gestic.

Ma of course is a suffix for maternal (grail, womb, cauldron, chalice) all those other poetic euphemisms the old folk used.

Gesti is gestation.

The difference between Majesty and Mon-archy.

Majestic, the Queen Maternal , blood royal until usurped by those who were less illuminated. How did the Maternal Blood royal become illuminated. Passed down by her own mother, royal in-heir-itance. The daughter was always heir to the throne and passed that down through her daughters.

One may have to see how all these glowy chemicals related to sex. We know they do in certain animals like lightening bugs but to cut to the chase if a child that was not concieved without a certain energy during the time of conception (not to be crude but basically conceived without sexual energy or orgasm) would be without spirit. Not fully spiritually endowed and would have to later take blood rites to rectify that lack to become en-lightened.

Illumination is a big part of this and there' a kicker of a word. The true Illuminati and the false Illuminati .Illuminated man. Ill-Luminated? Not well lit...? (lol)

Some failure or falling away or corruption of the Great Union rites that would prompt these energetic conditions accounted for the original race corrupting its own offspring for whatever reason. By accident even or collective psychic trauma.

Also may account for why the Vatican had such a bug up its arse not about sex persay but pleasureable sex which may re-create these conditions necessary to have spiritually (Originated-Source Spirit) endowed child. Or light filled child.

It's entirely possible that male children were to be consorts. Being pre-disposed and born in light anyway they may need to take the blood rites themselves to make for an entirely appropriate illuminated vessel to be an appropriate vessel. Speculating, not meaning to be sexist. It would be those male children who were deprived of their birth rite that steered things less maternal or majesty but to patriarchal.

Rape of the psyche. Taking by force the Majestic or Blood Royal Maternal resulting in off spring without immaculate conception. The chemical part is because all sorts of interesting hormonal (chemical) things are in play here , which means attempting to stimulate one's endocrine system, including huge amounts of melatonin secretion.

The Great Union wasn't about sexual rites but calling forth the already source connected spirit within too to have a child that was born of immaculate conception (source energy present).

Literally becoming vessels of Source to conceive a child in.

This has of course been corrupted over the years and always vilified by the church.

The traditions I have most respect for are the ones that include a genetic component within their tradition's beliefs which are based in matriarchal lineage inheritance.

A friend of mine who considers himself a Dragon Master also told me that a Queen can be a true Queen with or without a King but that there can be no true King unless he has a Queen.

Oh, and this same Dragon Master swears by "starfire" but has nothing to do with human sacrifice.

If I were born in the days when matriarchal rule was the norm of the day, I would have fit well within that framework.

Unfortuantely, we have a very different situation today...

justoneman

[Chuck]

Many believe, including those I have respected like Laurence Gardner, that Starfire is the prima materia, white powder gold, manna, etc see http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bi...a.htm#Part%201

[Jeffrey]

I'll be happy to pick apart Gardner's material for what it's worth, but I honestly do not trust the guy. My main beef is the notion that the messianic bloodline started with Cain. That is the biggest load of bull**** I have ever heard. The lineage of Cain was the serpent seed, not the Dragon Bloodline. The Jesus Christ that lived on earth was a decendant of Seth, that aint a stab in the dark either (well, it is but not with the typical connotations). In my opinion, that is a huge discrepcency to attribute the messianic/dragon/grail bloodline to Cain and it's just the kind of deceptive tactics used to mix stuff up - a damn good way to do it too, difficult to remedy.

Cain was the product of Eve and Saklas. That's the serpent seed, deluded righteousness. Kingship, monarchy. Nothing majestic about it. Bull****.

There is no doubt valuable information in LGs work, but that's true for any good disinformation. It's that little percentage, that little discrepancy that infects the rest of the information leading people to lend prestige where none is due. Empowering the very forces that enslave us by misplacing our homage to the Truth.

If I have misplaced my suspicions then please, help me to understand, I'm up for discussion in all seriousness. Excuse the fervor, but it looks to me as if his information is the equivalent of the twisted etymology/new egyptology-type distortion of information used by a lot of the people on the list in the OP.

Might I point out that the notion of Cain being the first of the messianic lineage (I don't think he was, because he was of the serpent seed) is the same belief professed by the historical/spiritual idealogies of the Illuminati and Freemasonry. This is part of the reason they hold Lucifer in such high regards. The serpent was good, he liberated the first of humanity with knowledge, Cain was of "divine blood", royal blood. Don't think so. Serpent seed. Not Dragon.

Again, if I have misunderstood something, please point it out. I am also going back over the material myself.

[Chester]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Star fire and or Safire/ Saphire/ Saf-fyre.

The heart of Star Fire was weapon (a sword) held by those who were of draconic (elven) bloodlines. Ceremonial in nature me thinks with a functional purpose which I won't go into here as its not for the possibly squeamish. Clerics of a certain status held them .

Star Fire was energy event, that was prompted by ...I don't recall blood rites or maybe union....what one could compare to Kundalini events but wasn't.

Posted by justoneman (here)

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Oookay I may have found a little bit of the puzzle in my journaling-- (or I may make this a bit more puzzling)

Transcribed from my own genetic material so I can't say its a one suit fits all situations sort of thing.

The word Majestic. Majesty. Maje or Mage sprang from the same words Ma-Gestic.

Ma of course is a suffix for maternal (grail, womb, cauldron, chalice) all those other poetic euphemisms the old folk used.

Gesti is gestation.

The difference between Majesty and Mon-archy.

Majestic, the Queen Maternal , blood royal until usurped by those who were less illuminated. How did the Maternal Blood royal become illuminated. Passed down by her own mother, royal in-heir-itance. The daughter was always heir to the throne and passed that down through her daughters.

One may have to see how all these glowy chemicals related to sex. We know they do in certain animals like lightening bugs but to cut to the chase if a child that was not concieved without a certain energy during the time of conception (not to be crude but basically conceived without sexual energy or orgasm) would be without spirit. Not fully spiritually endowed and would have to later take blood rites to rectify that lack to become en-lightened.

Illumination is a big part of this and there' a kicker of a word. The true Illuminati and the false Illuminati .Illuminated man. Ill-Luminated? Not well lit...? (lol)

Some failure or falling away or corruption of the Great Union rites that would prompt these energetic conditions accounted for the original race corrupting its own offspring for whatever reason. By accident even or collective psychic trauma.

Also may account for why the Vatican had such a bug up its arse not about sex persay but pleasureable sex which may re-create these conditions necessary to have spiritually (Originated-Source Spirit) endowed child. Or light filled child.

It's entirely possible that male children were to be consorts. Being pre-disposed and born in light anyway they may need to take the blood rites themselves to make for an entirely appropriate illuminated vessel to be an appropriate vessel. Speculating, not meaning to be sexist. It would be those male children who were deprived of their birth rite that steered things less maternal or majesty but to patriarchal.

Rape of the psyche. Taking by force the Majestic or Blood Royal Maternal resulting in off spring without immaculate conception. The chemical part is because all sorts of interesting hormonal (chemical) things are in play here , which means attempting to stimulate one's endocrine system, including huge amounts of melatonin secretion.

The Great Union wasn't about sexual rites but calling forth the already source connected spirit within too to have a child that was born of immaculate conception (source energy present).

Literally becoming vessels of Source to conceive a child in.

This has of course been corrupted over the years and always vilified by the church.

The traditions I have most respect for are the ones that include a genetic component within their tradition's beliefs which are based in matriarchal lineage inheritance.

A friend of mine who considers himself a Dragon Master also told me that a Queen can be a true Queen with or without a King but that there can be no true King unless he has a Queen.

Oh, and this same Dragon Master swears by "starfire" but has nothing to do with human sacrifice.

If I were born in the days when matriarchal rule was the norm of the day, I would have fit well within that framework.

Unfortuantely, we have a very different situation today...

justoneman

I was told it was for union with the "primal dragon" which could mean Sabaoth, or perhaps the demiurge, even possibly Lucifer... along those lines (all viewed as metaphorical beings). I never heard it related to union with "Christ" nor Autogenes nor Barbelo nor "Spirit" as in "the only one invisible Spirit – perfect, pure, holy, immaculate, ageless and virgin" using Gnostic terms here.

My gut tells me it was/is the practice of the descendents of the Draconians and that it was the Draconians who were the original off world visitors that brought the matriarchal inheritance lineages and mixed with the indigenous humans (if that first race of human on Earth was actually indigenous though those are the claims).

[Chester]

Vivek - Great Post #317 - I am very open now to the trail you are following. It has the right vibe and that's important to me. Again - Thanks!!
justone

[Chester]

More on Seth from the Gnostic point of view

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seth

In gnosticism, Seth is seen as a replacement given by God for Abel, whom Cain had slain. It is said that late in life, Adam gave Seth secret teachings that would become the kabbalah. The Zohar refers to Seth as "ancestor of all the generations of the tzaddikim" (Hebrew: righteous ones).[3]

Isn't the Kabbalah considered to be a creation of the archons? I do know that all sorts of occult groups revere the Kabbalah.

This is one of the confusions I have.

justoneman