A video they won't want you to see (Galen Winsor: nuclear scare scam)

[David Hughes]

To your list I would add........

How many have died in the pursuit of Free Energy Technology?

Technology that would render ALL fossil fuel, nuclear, and alternative forms of energy like solar and wind obsolete.

[Taurean]

Posted by David Hughes (here)
To your list I would add:

How many have died in the pursuit of Free Energy Technology?

Technology that would render ALL fossil fuel, nuclear and alternative forms of energy like solar and wind obsolete.

Well, yes, quite.

But then in terms of per Watts generated the ratio would put Free Energy as the most lethal. ( at the moment)

[Taurean]

In the light of all the foregoing this article makes for quite an amusing read ;-

Chernobyl's radioactive trees and the forest fire risk

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18721292

such effort to ramp up the fear, maybe with the Colarado fires in mind.

[ljwheat]

Posted by Taurean (here)

Make of all that what you will. I would personally be of the opinion that even 1 death directly attributed to nuclear radiation is too much but the info does put a lot of the fear porn we see and read about radiation from the media in perspective.

How many people have died for "Oil" - Millions

How many people have died in the production of "Coal" - Hundreds of Thousands"

How many people have died in the production of Nuclear Energy - Not many ( excluding False Flag sabotage )

Is this not exactly what Avalon Forum was conceived and so many like minded investigative,--- no nonsense,--- free thinking people assembled in one place.--- All about?

Now if we only had someone with the skill and the track record to take this body of evidence and breath new life into this deception that began so long ago, and present it to the masses. This to me sounds and feels like the scoop of the century. Or the biggest cover up of all time.

[vortexpoint]

Please allow me to present some contradicting info for those interested. I want to share a piece of work by multi-talented genius Walter Russell (1871-1963).

Everything in nature, from atoms to planets, according to Russell is born by concentrating energy (first part of the life-death cycle) and then slowly dying by radiating the energy (the second part of the cycle). In short radiation for Russell is nature's death principle. Radioactivity is multiplied death.

Here's a good video that explains it in nutshell:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=vEuYmgXDD3k

Also here's Russell's book Atomic Suicide? for those interested in researching Russell's work further.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/85626193/A...nd-Lao-Russell

[Bo Atkinson]

Posted by vortexpoint (here)
Please allow me to present some contradicting info for those interested. I want to share a piece of work by multi-talented genius Walter Russell (1871-1963). ......

Thank you vortexpoint, for the missing constants of our searching-equation. What is life for and how can we get that "Je ne sais quoi"? I've noticed many fine links in your vid. The web makes Russellian studies very accessible today. An excellent study area if we have our fill of rabbit hole speculation already.

(Thanks to your timely post), I got to realize that Russel offers a form of "push gravity" which fits my own particular research. Fits it as a unifying field explanation of matter-energy-space-time-life-thought..... Googling "Walter Russell" / images reveals the perfect starting point for me. Excellent visualization before CAD rendering and 3D geometry made visualization easier.

Toiling (mining nukes) for war lords and for parasites suppresses serene evolvement. Modern demands wreak the planet. Regardless whether by coal or nukes through any over-indulgent-abusiveness. To feed illusory growth paradigms, based on blinded self demise. Mutually assured demise, is M.A.D. all the same.

[Hervé]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by meat suit (here)
I just got to 1.17.00 where he talks about depleted uranium (D.U.) bullets that go straight thru battle tanks....
without any sources at hand at the moment, I understand that in Irak a lot of D.U was used by the brits in Faluja. since then 25% of babies have birth defects there.... theses defects are attributed to the radiation contamination of the D.U.

Hmm ... maybe something else is causing the birth defects?

Took me a while to bite... but there I go: there are three main possibilities or avenues, beside vaccines, for these "other things":

1) Chemtrails:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Thanks Siberia9.

I wish there was an easy way to trace where the cesium134/137 is coming from...

Here is the reported content of chemtrails as another source of contamination:

From: Stop Spraying California!

Toxic Chemicals & Metals in Chemtrails Aluminum Oxide Particles Arsenic Bacilli and Molds Barium Salts Barium Titanates Cadmium Calcium Chromium Desiccated Human Red Blood Cells Ethylene Dibromide Enterobacter Cloacal Enterobacteriaceae Human White Blood Cells-A Lead Lithium Salts and Chemtrails Mercury Methyl Aluminum Mold Spores Mycoplasma Nano-Aluminum-Coated Fiberglass Nitrogen Trifluoride Nickel Polymer Fibers Pseudomonas Aeruginosa Pseudomonas Florescens Radio Active Cesium Radio Active Thorium Selenium Serratia Marcscens Sharp Titanium Shards Silver Streptomyces Stronthium Sub-Micron Particles Sulfer Dioxide Unidentified Bacteria Uranium Yellow Fungal Mycotoxins

2) the drinks generously offered to the population:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Case 22A-B-C-D Hot Sodas Courtesy of Those... ?


In 1937, a chemist in immunology studies, Walther Goebel, at Rockefeller University reports on the urine analysis of dogs fed benzoic acid;

“When benzoic acid is ingested by dogs, it is excreted in the urine
partly in the form of hippuric acid and partly as a benzoyl ester
of glucuronic acid. The detoxication of aromatic [=benzene related] organic acids by conjugation with glucuronic acid is one of the important physiological mechanisms of man and certain animals.” http://www.jbc.org/cgi/reprint/122/3/649.pdf

Clearly, this Rockefeller scientist believes that benzoic acid is toxic and has to be detoxified by the animal.

In 1943, another scientist at Rockefeller University writes a report on p-amino benzoic acid (PABA), citing that in very low doses it prevents sulfa antibiotics from working. At the time, sulfa drugs were the only antibiotics other than penicillin which was not yet in use. The scientist states that it has been shown to prevent sulfa drugs from inhibiting the growth of a strain of Clostridia. Yes, this is the same PABA chemical that was put in sunscreens.

[...]

Clearly, the utility of doing that study during the war was to figure out how to prevent the treatment of gas gangrene due to war wounds.

“one molecule of p-aminobenzoic acid antagonized 23,000 molecules of sulfanilamide” www.jem.org/cgi/reprint/78/4/255.pdf

[...]

When I thought about the US troop’s sodas sitting in the sun, I wondered what the petrochemicals turned into in the heat. I figured that the writer of that CIA internal memo might know. The writer, on investigation, turned out to be a microbiologist at the US Army’s Chemical and Biological Warfare Labs at Fort Detrick Maryland. I called him up and told him that I would like to meet with him over a cup of coffee. He agreed and we set a time and place.

[...]

In response to my questions he admitted that the water being used in Iraq was to his knowledge not the problem. He said that he wrote the memo because benzoic acid was being added to the sodas and was the “petrochemical derivative” that was of concern. He said that it was a very useful chemical to fed populations in war zones because its heat caused metabolites which increased their risk of dying from wounds and dysentery. I asked him, if that is the case, then why was it being used in sodas given the troops. He looked at me that I was dense or naive. He said, “It is there to decrease VA hospital bills.” I said, “But that is absurd.” He said, “No, think about it. If a soldier is healthy, not much happens when he drinks the sodas. But if he gets seriously wounded then he is likely to get a wound infection. Then he will die from it and not be a long term burden on the VA with an amputated leg, say.”

[...]

... You can go into an area where people are dying from dysentery and give them sodas and look like a hero. You know what the standard treatment for dysentery is now? Sodas. People consider them “safe” to drink beverages because they are sterile. Orange based sodas have the potassium in them that is needed to help replace the electrolytes. All you change is whether you heat them first as to whether you supply them to harm or help. It was truly a brilliant idea. We are really changing how we do things at the Lab. The people in the hot climates are overpopulating the world--now we can combat that effortlessly. People with AIDS in Africa, India, etc. just need a little help over the edge. We are giving them that help.”

[...]

What that “Final Solution” researcher had told me was that in the heat the Benzoate/Benzoic Acid turned into not just benzene but PABA (para-amino benzoic acid). There is some amino acids in the beverages, at least in ones with plant extracts in them. He said furthermore, some of it turns into PABA inside the human body where there are lots of amino acids and moderate heat as well. He said that the bacteria just need trace amounts of it to grow like a rocket. I said, I did not see how bacteria could grow on a crude oil slick. He said, “They can’t. But many of them grow better than ever before, when small amounts of oil is added to a lake. He said, look at all those contaminated lakes up near Detroit; people just changed their car oil and let the oil seep into the ground, or just a few drops of oil from their outboard motors got into the water. Bingo, the water is full of nasty bacteria.” He continued, “That is why the water is not drinkable in the US anymore, because it takes so little pollution by oil to make the bacteria take it over. I played skeptical and asked him to send me a paper on it. He did. I read it in some detail.

The paper was about a small town in Africa during an epidemic of cholera. Some inhabitants were given the pre-heated sodas and some were not. The town’s people were not told that they were being studied for how well they could be killed off! Both putting the benzoate in the sodas and the study were unethical in my opinion. The town folk believed that the researcher and his staff were there to help them. The mortality was 40% higher in the group given the heat treated sodas. This was not a town with a particularly high AIDS rate. Less than 10% of the people were HIV positive. The study had tested people for HIV. Those who had AIDS and cholera had a high incidence of death, about 80%, if they drank the heat treated sodas. Their mortality if they came down with cholera was high anyway, about 50%. Those with just cholera and regular sodas had less than a 2% death rate.

From Sue Arrigo's case 22B.


Innocuous sunscreens and cosmetics to interact with laced vaccines and water from the "poisonned wells"... and there is the loaded gun held at the head of the female of the species of "useless eaters."

3) Psychosomatics stemming from an unconscious long memory of the human species being triggered into manifestation in a similar way that "stigmata" occur on someone having managed to convinced his/her unconscious that s/he has been crucified... those of you who have been following the "Dreamtime Healing" or "Horus-Ra" threads might have a better inkling at grasping that one since then, as is now, the main goal of these controllers is depopulation and the sterilization of the female of the human species:

“Depopulation should be the highest priority of US foreign policy towards the Third World….”. Henry Kissinger National Security Memorandum (NSSM 200) early 1970’s

[Unified Serenity]

This is a really good article amer zo. Thank you for sharing it. I need to re-read it again to truly absorb the details. It's worth understanding this stuff.

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Now, my question is since we absorb the sunscreen is it affecting our bodies in fighting off disease by the PABA in our system? I don't use sunscreens at all, but it's pushed all summer, and of course no caring parent would send their child out without it, right? Or, that's the peer pressure we are under.

[Hervé]

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
[...]

Now, my question is since we absorb the sunscreen is it affecting our bodies in fighting off disease by the PABA in our system? I don't use sunscreens at all, but it's pushed all summer, and of course no caring parent would send their child out without it, right? Or, that's the peer pressure we are under.

That's what it's intentionally designed for to do as it interacts with vaccines to turn their content into virulent reactions.

Check this thread where I first posted it: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post270710

[Hervé]

As for the overpumped up scare of Fukushima radiations being all over the place:


From http://educate-yourself.org/lte/radi...p08jul12.shtml:

Fukushima Hoax: Reader Wears Radiation Badge During Vacation Trip from Florida-Seattle-Juneau, Alaska With No Indication of Abnormal Background Radiation Levels

July 8, 2012

Subject: Radiation North West
From: Greg
Date: Sun, July 8, 2012
To: Ken Adaci

: Hi Ken,

I am a big fan of your site. I've read with interest your articles disputing the radiation scare on the western USA coast from Fukushima. I offer some anecdotal evidence to support your claim that radiation on the western US is exaggerated. I just returned from a 10 day vacation/cruise from Seattle to Juneau Alaska. I carried a small radiation sticker with me the whole time and there was no indication I encountered high levels of radiation. The sticker did not change color from the time I left Florida until my return. The website for the detector I used is

: http://jplabs.com/wp-content/uploads...ker-manual.pdf

Thought you might want this background information. Thank you for the information you provide at your site.

Greg

***

Hi Greg,

Thanks for your report. The RAD badge you wore is a sensible and inexpensive way to determine if you are being exposed to levels of radiation that could be injurious to your health. The radiation monitors used by the federal, state and local governments, along with universities and nuclear plant facilities can detect much smaller changes than the RAD badge for any type of ionizing radiation source and NONE of them have reported background radiation readings - before, during, and AFTER 3/11- that are in any way worrisome or even HINT at the possibility of an elevated long term health risk. Anyone with a brain can look at the radiation monitoring data, freely available on the internet, to prove to themselves that the Fukushima radiation scare campaign is a contrived hoax from top to bottom.

I only wish that more people would stop accepting the egregious distortions and wholesale fabrications being promoted by the internet Fukushima Radiation Psyops Team and start checking the FACTS on their own to see that there is NO radiation increase.

Best Regards, Ken

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Check this thread where I first posted it: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post270710

Amzer Zo - you have been patiently and repeatedly, for over a year now, referring to the evidence at http://www.libertycalling.com/sue_arrigo-treason.htm (site gone non-existent, archived here: (http://avalonlibrary.net/Sue_Arrigo/)

Thank-you.

I just started reading it now, being 2/3's of the way through the first 17 cases.

This stuff makes the leaks of Julian Assange or the experiences of David E. Martin (See Kerry Cassidy: The Group That 'BOUGHT' the US Presidency..! look like almost modest in comparison.

Good gawd ... can it really be this messed up?

[Hervé]

Posted by Paul (here)

This stuff makes the leaks of Julian Assange or the experiences of David E. Martin (See Kerry Cassidy: The Group That 'BOUGHT' the US Presidency..! look like almost modest in comparison.

Good gawd ... can it really be this messed up?

Welcome

Well, when a CIA plane full of white stuff crashes and when no one follows suit because it involves Clinton and the Bushes...

When you put her data together with the like of John Coleman "Commitee of 300," J. Perkins "Confessions of an Economic Hitman;" Svali, Taylor testimonies; Springmeier and Bill Cooper works; adding to the mix the kind of "gods" they worship as in Houman's "Horus-Ra" thread and yes, under all apparency, it is that messed up.

[TargeT]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by Paul (here)

This stuff makes the leaks of Julian Assange or the experiences of David E. Martin (See Kerry Cassidy: The Group That 'BOUGHT' the US Presidency..! look like almost modest in comparison.

Good gawd ... can it really be this messed up?

Welcome

Well, when a CIA plane full of white stuff crashes and when no one follows suit because it involves Clinton and the Bushes...

When you put her data together with the like of John Coleman "Commitee of 300," J. Perkins "Confessions of an Economic Hitman;" Svali, Taylor testimonies; Springmeier and Bill Cooper works; adding to the mix the kind of "gods" they worship as in Houman's "Horus-Ra" thread and yes, under all apparency, it is that messed up.

Sounds like the kind of theory "connect the dots" that people pay a lot of money for (in book form), have anything more conclusive than that thought or are those just connections that are in your head ATM?

[Hervé]

Posted by TargeT (here)

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by Paul (here)

This stuff makes the leaks of Julian Assange or the experiences of David E. Martin (See Kerry Cassidy: The Group That 'BOUGHT' the US Presidency..! look like almost modest in comparison.

Good gawd ... can it really be this messed up?

Welcome

Well, when a CIA plane full of white stuff crashes and when no one follows suit because it involves Clinton and the Bushes...

When you put her data together with the like of John Coleman "Commitee of 300," J. Perkins "Confessions of an Economic Hitman;" Svali, Taylor testimonies; Springmeier and Bill Cooper works; adding to the mix the kind of "gods" they worship as in Houman's "Horus-Ra" thread and yes, under all apparency, it is that messed up.

Sounds like the kind of theory "connect the dots" that people pay a lot of money for (in book form), have anything more conclusive than that thought or are those just connections that are in your head ATM?

Well, in order for you to draw your own conclusion... you would have to do the reading...

[TargeT]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Well, in order for you to draw your own conclusion... you would have to do the reading...

I'll aggregate, condense & summarize for you if you aggregate, condense and summarize for me

I can't even load that case 1-17 web page.. I do most my reading at work (government network..... highly restricted ) which is limiting (excuses excuses).

[Kimberley]

********************

Ok I recorded the interview with Ben Williams yesterday and it is now posted in the archives for your listening pleasure...

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/beloven...ear-power-scam


Ben sent me a NUCLEAR RADIATION EXPOSURE COMPARISON CHART that Ben and Galen put together.. I have attached this in a jpg version.



ok the pdf is attached too so you can see this chart..just click on the pdf attachment link below the graphic..

EDIT

I posted a corrected chart on page 8 of this thread 7-15-2012

Any way Much love!!

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by TargeT (here)
I can't even load that case 1-17 web page.. I do most my reading at work (government network..... highly restricted ) which is limiting (excuses excuses).

I have just downloaded from mediafire.com all the .pdf and .doc files from http://www.libertycalling.com/sue_arrigo-treason.htm, and uploaded them to my server, with a re-worked opening page that refers to these copies. There is also a bit torrent there, for convenient downloading of the entire set. This is the first time I've created a bittorrent, so let me know if I can improve that somehow.


See http://pauljackson.us/sue_arrigo/

[TargeT]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by TargeT (here)
I can't even load that case 1-17 web page.. I do most my reading at work (government network..... highly restricted ) which is limiting (excuses excuses).

I have just downloaded from mediafire.com all the .pdf and .doc files from http://www.libertycalling.com/sue_arrigo-treason.htm, and uploaded them to my server, with a re-worked opening page that refers to these copies. There is also a bit torrent there, for convenient downloading of the entire set. This is the first time I've created a bittorrent, so let me know if I can improve that somehow.


See http://pauljackson.us/sue_arrigo/

Thanks, I'm reading it now.. those bolded words a lone should have set my monitor on fire ( p2p or Peer to Peer is one of the BIGGEST "no no's" around here),,, haha; but the PDF is working great

[sigma6]

Well I've said it before, and I'll say it again
You get nothing for nothing: expect it when
You're backseat driving, and your hands ain't on the wheel - Judas Priest - Heading Out To The Highway...

I have this phrase that I would really love people to lock into... it will open your eyes and simplify the equation... it's really a variant of "follow the money" but it is much more meaningful imo...

look to see where how they "CONTROL OF DISTRIBUTION OF..." [fill in the blank here]

and you will see the hand of the elites, and you will see exactly how they do it... usually with vast complex 'institutions' along side the physically vast complex infrastructures, all designed to raise the wall to any future competition and maintain the monopoly of control and it applies to everything,
whether it is money (banking system), information (university system), legal power (court system) manpower (corporations which is a pyramid!) etc, etc...

And in the case of energy we are using gas, oil, coal, and nuclear with giant generating stations, and even oil refineries, all because they raise the wall of any future competition, and maintain the monopoly on the "CONTROL OF DISTRIBUTION OF..." energy output...

"CONTROL OF DISTRIBUTION... " is the name of the game

This also simply explains why everyone isn't driving around in a vehicle that runs on H2O and similar sources that could be created at home, and free us from the "CONTROL OF DISTRIBUTION..." schema

[Arrowwind]

Posted by Andrew (here)

Posted by Taurean (here)
and another thing - What does this say about the Van Allen Belt ?

Pete Peterson mentions in the camelot video that when your in a plane your getting equivalent of an X-Ray a minute (or something like that) doesn't seem to bother anybody. Also wouldn't any radiation leaked on Earth just make its way up to the radioactive shielding we have around the planet?

These explainations of receiving equivilent radiation from the environment to some nuclear radiation exposures just doesnt hold water. The real issue is radioactive particles entering your body and lodging there and causing disease. This is not going to happen to radiation exposure on an airplane.

I live practically next door to one of the worlds largest nuclear research centers. Ive been going to painting sessions with a woman who's husband works there. He is a facility manager at Idaho National Laboratores. We started talking about the nuclear issue and I mentions Galen to her. She was not familiar with him but she started to talk about how excited her husband was to be working at INL. He says that the advances in the nuclear industy is spectacular and they have greatly greatly reduced waste product and the dangers associated with nuclear plants. Although he is not a nuclear physisist he knows them as he has to interface with them daily and needs to understand their work and needs to manage the facility correctly. She made it sound that the changes going on are huge... but how come we dont know about it?

I realized as she was talking that if what she said was true there is a huge knowlege deficit amonsgst the public sector... including those who live around INL. So I asked her if her husband would be open to me interviewing him for an article on advances in nuclear processing and development. I will likley know next week.

I thought it interesting that she had no awareness of small nuclear plants for towns or building complexes. She said she had never heard her husband mention it that such devices could be on the drawing table somewhere.

I'll see what I can find out.