From Bill Ryan -- the Ultimate Hypothesis

[TargeT]

Posted by Ilie Pandia (here)
Hi TargeT,

Thanks for the info. Would taking the grid off line temporary help protect the transformers? And such a CME would hit only half of the planet that happens to be exposed to the Sun at that time, right?

Also, from what I've read is still not clear why we should go under-ground...

if you could predict the CME, and disconnect every transformer from the grid (specifically the power lines themselves) then yeah I think you could save most of them (I do not think this is possible currently), again this is all a matter of degree, who knows how big this CME will be, if its strong enough to melt transistors then I don't know that anything will be protected, you can insulate two posts as much as you want, but if you hit those posts with enough juice and there is a large enough difference in charge between the two something will happen regardless of your insulation.

as for one side of the planet being hit and not the other,, this takes a bit more electrical understanding than I have, space functions more like a highly charged electro-magnetic-gravitational field & I'm not sure how much it cares about line of sight with large scale CME bursts (This is also why planetary alignments seem to actually mean something, think of how changed our "path of least resistance" is when we have several planetary bodies (or eletrcro-magnetic-gravitational focal points) lined up.


The potential for a very dramatic life changing event is definately there; I'm pretty convinced the event itself will mean little to humans, its all the things that we've come to depend on that will instantly change & thus change us.

[gripreaper]

So now that the electric cartel has full control of electricity, by developing a grid that can be measured, distributed, and made scarce, where they can determine the price we pay, without any of the alternative sources of power allowed to be developed over the last century, their control grid has a very high potential of going down? And this grid, which is so vulnerable to a Carrington Type Event, is not being protected against such an event?

On another thread here on Avalon is a video by Winsor Galen about nuclear power,

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-Galen-Winsor-...

which he claims, quite credibly, that the technology exists where one small nuclear power generator could be set up and power ten city blocks with unlimited power, safely and without any waste? What about the opposing magnet type generators?

Can we say that the PTB do not care that the electrical grid might go down, at least for the majority of us? Can we say, since there is no measures being enacted to mitigate such an event, that they want the grid to go down?

What is the bottom line here?

[gripreaper]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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Hi, Houman -- thanks for jumping into this thread.

May I ask: in your personal opinion, is it possible that there are ways and means in classified science to predict, with some confidence, extreme peaks of solar activity a year or more in advance?

If I may interject: wouldn't "they" have had to know much further in the past than one year, if the subterranean cities are real (and their escape from the impending solar storm)?

Would this point to some (at least perceived) credibility in the (supposed) "Looking Glass" or other future-viewing technology/technique? In other words, they could be completely wrong, but are operating under the assumption that whatever they picked-up in the future-casting was correct.

Dennis

Dennis, my understanding of any and all readings within the source field, that there is bias from the observer which influences the results.

[TargeT]

Posted by gripreaper (here)
On another thread here on Avalon is a video by Winsor Galen about nuclear power,

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-Galen-Winsor-...

which he claims, quite credibly, that the technology exists where one small nuclear power generator could be set up and power ten city blocks with unlimited power, safely and without any waste?

Sure look up a LFTR, we created two nuclear reaction type plants in the 1940's, a LFTR and BREEDER reactor, guess which one we (anyone) AREN'T using......

Posted by gripreaper (here)
What about the opposing magnet type generators?

what about em?

Posted by gripreaper (here)
Can we say that the PTB do not care that the electrical grid might go down, at least for the majority of us? Can we say, since there is no measures being enacted to mitigate such an event, that they want the grid to go down?

What is the bottom line here?

I'd say the bottom line is this: something out there likes to feed off the energy (Gnostics called them archons, we can call them vampires, devils, ghosts, ET/ED… what ever) created during massive "negative" events, so our society is structured to constantly cause this to happen by its very function. be it war, riots, failure to handle natural disasters etc... I can only imagine this is done by design & intentionally (that's what I'm currently seeing in my "research").

[Cidersomerset]

Posted by Ilie Pandia (here)
Also what is not clear is why should one go underground? What kind of problems are we talking about? Can a Solar storm fry our brains too?
Good point.

No one got underground in the 1859 Carrington flare, and outside of some telegraph operators, hardly anyone noticed.

Thats what I was thinking......

But Bills answer covered that and the worlds population was much smaller and more agricultural based...

So the vast population centres would soon fall into chaos and this is possibly
what the authorities have been planning for with underground bases and thousands
of casket liners etc.....

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Right time for bed some of us have to be up early for work ....

I don't like to go to bed on a down thought.....

Remember we are eternal beings having a experiance
and if all goes 'pearshape' its not the end of the world..LOL
Well Maybe !!

I'm going to stock up with some essentials and better get some candles..

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=yLkTGULZllE

Or more appropriate if we do get a mass ejection....

MY BLACKBERRY IS NOT WORKING!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=6dmhF1rqaZk

Right it's Goodnight from him & It's Goodnight from me !!!!

[Cognitive Dissident]

This is obviously a very real and serious scenario. Unlikely, hopefully, but maybe the PTB know something is coming that we don't.

But here's the thing that doesn't make sense here: nuclear. In a prolongued power down scenario, it would be very difficult to supply diesel, support personnel, etc., to the hundreds/thousands of nuclear power stations that would be in emergency shutdown but probably fried/damaged and still very hot and radioactive and in need of constant attention, like Fukushima is now. How is possible that all of these nuclear power stations could be maintained safely? Answer: it is not.

But in that case, being in an underground base is not going to help you much, if the surface of the planet becomes radioactive.

The logical approach would be to shut down the nuclear power stations well in advance of the problematic CME, i.e. round about now. You can even use Fukushima as a pretext. Pretty good reason, actually. This is what the Germans have done (although the shut down is fast in nuclear terms it is several years from now I think).

So, in summary, this scenario doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

Also, whether Courtney Brown's remote viewing of June 2013 is correct or not, I think is also an important factor to consider (no time to unpack this thought now, just a flag).

[gripreaper]

I’m trying to connect the dots here. Regardless of ancient history with regards to the seeding of this planet, or the grand experiment of external technology versus the internal technology, something happened around 70 years ago that changed everything.

The elite were moving along just fine, amassing wealth, imperialistically raping continents, causing WW1 and WW11, mass genocides like the Spanish Flu, forcing debt based fiat currencies to consolidate all of the assets and power into their hands, and then all of a sudden, around the mid 1940’s they shifted gears.

They developed a shadow economy and a shadowy way to fund shadow black projects, imported all of the best scientists and engineers into the United States, poured massive amounts of capital on everybody and everything, and went like a bat out of hell nonstop for seven decades! They gave little regard at all for the environment or the people, or their electric grid or their oil cartels or their banking systems. They killed anyone who talked about it, and headed off at the pass and destroyed anyone who tried anything not in line with their agenda.

What in the hell happened? Trying to connect the dots, by supposition, based on all of the information I have gleaned over the past several years is, at Montauk, they BLEW A HOLE in the space/time continuum and ripped and tore it and CHANGED how the energetic element interacted.

Not only did this event change everything, it also got the attention of the extraterrestrials from many quadrants of the cosmos. What the implications are of this event and how it ultimately would manifest is anybody’s guess, although it appears the elite have been preparing for every possible contingency to protect themselves, while totally ignoring us.

At both extremes we have the New Age love and light hippies huddled in the corner holding hands singing Kumbaya, and on the other extreme we have the discordant miscreants yelling and screaming at the castle walls and throwing rotten eggs at it. I'm tired of the extremes. Somewhere in the middle is us, those who are looking to create a future world where the psychopaths no longer run things, or screw them up so bad that they cannot be fixed.

I would really like to connect all of the dots without fear, with as much critical thinking and cognitive reasoning and collating of information and distillation as possible, into what makes the most sense. So far, we are speculating about an extinction level event which might happen because it was viewed, either technologically through looking glass, or through remote viewing, or was a message delivered to us via aliens. I don’t know. Sure would like to know.

Suffice it to say, the “harvest of souls”, as others have indicated, requires the maximum amount of fear possible before the ultimate human sacrifice can be made to the soulless Archon’s, or whoever they are. If the final curtain call for the human experiment is to offer up all of the energy of this planet to the vampires, then there is nothing I can do about that, is there?

If the call is to stand in my own power, as sovereign as I possibly can, reject all of the games of mice and men, and move into a Kundalini awakening, and transcend 3d, then I can do something with that.

More than likely the outcome is somewhere in the middle.

[Cognitive Dissident]

I agree, it does all get complicated pretty fast. Just as we cannot understand the current situation without understanding the ET presence, also we probably can't understand it without understanding what happened at Montauk and the whole time travel thing. Unfortunately we may need to also consider the Babylon working, which leads us down the Crowley/Parsons/L Ron Hubbard rabbit hole. That working could also have opened some portals that should have remained closed.

Also, very important to bear in mind the many sources that have told us that exploding nuclear bombs (in war or in tests) creates tears in the space time fabric which can have negative and as yet unknown consequences. How often do the ETs tell people to stop nuclear activities?

[Jeffrey]

Bump that Bill.

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvi...g_Predictions/

and more on Ed Dames here:

http://www.mindpowernews.com/DrDoom.htm

[TargeT]

Posted by gripreaper (here)
I would really like to connect all of the dots without fear, with as much critical thinking and cognitive reasoning and collating of information and distillation as possible, into what makes the most sense. So far, we are speculating about an extinction level event which might happen because it was viewed, either technologically through looking glass, or through remote viewing, or was a message delivered to us via aliens. .

Well I'm not so sure where I stand with the Looking Glass material, BUT, I will say this:

a large CME is NOT an ELE (extinction level event), the only danger there is unprepared people who are living so far disconnected from nature that they won't handle (mental or physically) the transition well (and probably won't survive it).


EXERSIZE: look around you right now, what if you had NO transportation, no power, no natural gas, no water pumped into your house, no way to store food or get medicine that is not with in walking range.

now think about the millions/billions of people out there and consider them running through this exersize, the majority of the results would be very very "bad" for survival.

that's the only thing to "fear" (and not even that IMO,, just be 'aware' of it) and its honestly very managable RIGHT NOW

[gripreaper]

Posted by Cognitive Dissident (here)
I agree, it does all get complicated pretty fast. Just as we cannot understand the current situation without understanding the ET presence, also we probably can't understand it without understanding what happened at Montauk and the whole time travel thing. Unfortunately we may need to also consider the Babylon working, which leads us down the Crowley/Parsons/L Ron Hubbard rabbit hole. That working could also have opened some portals that should have remained closed.

Also, very important to bear in mind the many sources that have told us that exploding nuclear bombs (in war or in tests) creates tears in the space time fabric which can have negative and as yet unknown consequences. How often do the ETs tell people to stop nuclear activities?

Apparently it would only take a few more nuclear detonations to totally rip the planet apart and make it into an asteroid belt.

I think even the elite know now that they screwed up on so many levels messing with the fabric of time and space.

[Bongo]

Posted by Vivek (here)
Bump that Bill.

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvi...g_Predictions/

One thing that Ed Dames doesn't explain in that vid is that remote viewers are unable to tell the difference between some of the timelines. Obviously where they can see big differences they can tell the difference (things they saw but never happened, in this timeline at least), but... say if they do 100 remote viewer sessions they could potentially be remote viewing up to 100 different timelines but because they all seem from the same timeline it would be easy to group them together when they may not be related.

[TargeT]

Posted by Cognitive Dissident (here)
In a prolongued power down scenario, it would be very difficult to supply diesel, support personnel, etc., to the hundreds/thousands of nuclear power stations that would be in emergency shutdown but probably fried/damaged and still very hot and radioactive and in need of constant attention, like Fukushima is now. How is possible that all of these nuclear power stations could be maintained safely? Answer: it is not.

But in that case, being in an underground base is not going to help you much, if the surface of the planet becomes radioactive.

The logical approach would be to shut down the nuclear power stations well in advance of the problematic CME, i.e. round about now. You can even use Fukushima as a pretext. Pretty good reason, actually. This is what the Germans have done (although the shut down is fast in nuclear terms it is several years from now I think)

Posted by gripreaper (here)
Apparently it would only take a few more nuclear detonations to totally rip the planet apart and make it into an asteroid belt.

I think even the elite know now that they screwed up on so many levels messing with the fabric of time and space.

I'm a bit fuzzy on the nuclear det.s causing time/space rips.. so I'll leave that one alone for now....

What if radiation was actually GOOD for you and you have been lied to your whole life?

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...nuclear-scam-/

Nuclear radiation (when not in a doctors hands, a bomb or an ACTIVE nuclear REACTION (inside the reactor chamber AS it happens)) is perfectly safe, do not fear that.


I think the huge Nuclear FEAR scam is playing out (mostly) exactly as desired and there is a bit of a reflection of it being played out here.

[Maunagarjana]

Posted by Ilie Pandia (here)
And I find it a bit too strange that this event it supposed to hit at the end of 2012... with all the "end of the world" craze that will be super hyped by then...

While I don't doubt Bill's source, this feels a bit like controlled dis-information leaked via said source.

No one can deny that solar flares have been really active this last year and are projected to become much more active and powerful next year. We haven't even reached solar maximum yet. If more of these flares, especially the X-class flares, would have been pointed near us, the idea that this is disinfo would seem pretty ridiculous, imho. I think the people on the "inside" are very concerned about this and have been for a long time. My best guess, from all the info I have digested, is that the most dangerous period of time for something to happen would be March-April 2013, but it could happen before or after that window, and really, we won't be completely out of the woods until 2014.

[gripreaper]

Posted by TargeT (here)
Nuclear radiation (when not in a doctors hands, a bomb or an ACTIVE nuclear REACTION (inside the reactor chamber AS it happens)) is perfectly safe, do not fear that.

I think the huge Nuclear FEAR scam is playing out (mostly) exactly as desired and there is a bit of a reflection of it being played out here.

I'm not talking about radiation. I've listened and done the research on Winsor Galen's work. I'm talking about ripping the space/time continuum.

Oh, and I don't embrace or operate in fear either.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Maunagarjana (here)
My best guess, from all the info I have digested, is that the most dangerous period of time for something to happen would be March-April 2013, but it could happen before or after that window, and really, we won't be completely out of the woods until 2014.

I'd agree. After I received the most recent exchange with my physicist contact (who had warned me of an 1859-type event round about December-January -- see above), I went to visit Dr Bill Deagle, believing that this information might be of interest to him.

Dr Bill was not in the least fazed: this was rather old news, as far as he was concerned. His view -- including information gleaned from his own sources -- was that there might be a series of serious solar events over a several month period: not just one. The damage to systems might be cumulative... like a boxer downed from an onslaught of heavy punches.

[Jeffrey]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=s30TGJP7hrQ

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=5_mQm2UVwkw

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=WkY9c_mPfEI

http://solarstormwarning.com/

Also, this from http://www.nasa.gov/centers/hq/emerg...ess/index.html

The NASA Family/Personal Preparedness Program is designed to provide awareness, resources, and tools to the NASA Family (civil servants and contractors) to prepare for an emergency situation. The most important assets in the successful completion of NASA’s mission are our employees’ and their families. We are taking the steps to prepare our workforce, but it is your personal obligation to prepare yourself and your families for emergencies.

Listen to Administrator Bolden’s thoughts on why it’s important that we “know our stuff” and “be prepared”.
Administrator, Charles F. Bolden, Jr. Video

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Lm33qNR2mVA

[Maunagarjana]

I would like to mention the curious case of BrightGarlick, an alleged ET contactee. He is a former member of Avalon, a member from before my time here. I found his blog http://otherworldyencounters.wordpress.com/ and he's been talking about a solar catastrophe on it lately, saying that he's been shown by his ET contacts that this will happen (among other bad events, such as the nuking of Tehran by Israel and other things.) He's convinced this will happen, but says he will be glad to be wrong. Just go to his site and click on tags at the bottom of his most recent post and you'll see what I mean.

I would be remiss if I didn't mention that he left Avalon after people became upset with him when he said he had been told by his ET contacts (who have told him they were among the groups responsible for creating us) that there are no negative ETs and that reptilians don't exist and are a creation of the human imagination. I would have mentioned this guy earlier, but I know many will dismiss him for his comments about there being no negative ETs, and also, he has said that he is glad he has avoided becoming some internet celebrity. Despite having a blog, it doesn't seem like he wants a large amount of attention and is quite comfortable with his blog's miniscule audience. He also does not seem interested in arguing with anyone who disagrees with him. That's why he left Avalon, after all. But I thought I should mention it anyway because he has said he will post a "solar alert" if he thinks something is about to happen.

[Jeffrey]

NASA: Solar storm warning satellite ACE 'could falter soon'

March 13, 2012 - Washington: A US satellite that gives the only advance warnings of incoming solar storms is far more than a ten years previous its expected orbital lifetime and is possibly on its last legs, scientists say.

Stationed close to 1 million miles from Earth. NASA's Superior Composition Explorer satellite, nicknamed ACE, cautions about incoming high-energy particles from the sun which can wreak havoc on radio, GPS, satellite communications that are now embedded in present day life.

"It would be a very undesirable day for us if that spacecraft was not doing work,"� the Discovery Information quoted William Murtagh, program coordinator for NOAA's Space Weather Prediction Center in Boulder, Colo., as declaring.

"When an eruption takes place on the sun, there are nevertheless really a number of concern marks as to if it's going to strike the Earth and when it's going to strike the Earth."

Till the sun's free of charge-flying and extremely energetic outbursts, acknowledged as coronal mass ejections, hit the ACE spacecraft, forecasters are not acquainted with the orientation of their embedded magnetic fields.

Dependent on the polarity, or alignment, Earth's magnetic shield will possibly peel away, providing the highly billed particles a lot more freedom to disturb electrically delicate gear and communications, or rebuff the particles, like what occurred for the duration of this week's outburst.

Read more: http://www.disclose.tv/news/NASA_Sol...#ixzz20GZtkQg4

[Jeffrey]

Voyager Discovers Magnetized Fluff

Interstellar space is fluffy. This is true. What's more, the veteran Voyager probes have just discovered that this fluff is more magnetized than previously believed, a factor that seems to allow its very existence.

Of course, this fluff isn't made from the dust bunnies you find under your bed, the 'Local Fluff' (a nickname for the Local Interstellar Cloud) is a vast, wispy cloud of hot hydrogen and helium stretching 30 light-years across.

Our solar system is powering its way right through the Local Fluff and Voyagers 1 and 2 are currently traversing the boundary that separates the bubble of space surrounding our sun (a.k.a. the heliosphere) and interstellar space.

Supernova Exhaust

These two probes -- launched in the 1970's to explore the outermost reaches of the solar system and then cruise into the unknown -- have been making measurements of their surroundings during this transition through the boundary region (or the 'heliosheath').

Although they haven't entered the Local Fluff quite yet, the Voyagers are sampling the characteristics of the heliosheath, indirectly gauging the magnetic field of the Local Fluff they are quickly approaching.

Approximately 10 million years ago, a supernova cluster detonated nearby, generating a huge bubble of million-degree gas. Researchers have been very confused as to why the Local Fluff remains intact; it should have been blown away by the ferocious supernovae exhaust long ago.

It would be like expecting a wisp of cigarette smoke to retain its structure in the middle of a tornado; some kind of force would need to be surrounding (or intertwined through) the smoke helping it resist being dispersed. In the case of the wispy Local Fluff, a magnetic field may be helping.

Magnetized Fluff

"Voyager data show that the Fluff is much more strongly magnetized than anyone had previously suspected -- between 4 and 5 microgauss," said Merav Opher, a NASA Heliophysics Guest Investigator from George Mason University and lead author of research published in Nature on Dec. 24. "This magnetic field can provide the extra pressure required to resist destruction."

Astrophysical magnetic fields are often measured in units of gauss; the Earth has a magnetic field of approximately 0.5 gauss (or 500,000 microgauss). Therefore, 4 to 5 microgauss may seem pretty weak in comparison, but this field covers astonishing scales, appearing to wrap around a very tenuous hydrogen/helium gas, possibly helping the Local Fluff maintain its structure.

However, the Voyagers aren't inside the Fluff yet, how can they measure the cloud's magnetic field strength? By measuring the size of the heliosphere (which is maintained by the outward magnetic pressure of the sun's magnetic field), the probes have been able to deduce how much inward magnetic pressure is pushing down on the heliosphere. This inward pressure is being caused by the Local Fluff, so its magnetic field can be indirectly measured.

More Fluff, More Encounters

The Local Interstellar Cloud isn't the only cloud of fluff out there, and now Opher theorizes that other interstellar cloud formations may be highly magnetized too.

As the solar system continues to orbit around the galactic disk, it will encounter more clouds, deforming the heliosphere to lesser or greater degrees, potentially influencing life on Earth.

Cosmic rays originating from outside the solar system continuously bombard our atmosphere, but the quantity of these high-energy particles that rain down are influenced by the amount our heliosphere is deformed. The greater the pressure, the smaller the heliosphere becomes, and the more cosmic rays enter the inner solar system.

Not only could this have influenced our atmospheric dynamics in the past, it could impact future human spaceflight within the solar system. Let's face it, a deluge of highly energetic particles is bad news for any unprotected astronaut.

Source: http://news.discovery.com/space/voya...zed-fluff.html