From Bill Ryan -- the Ultimate Hypothesis

[Unified Serenity]

Has anyone noticed if this sun info is being talked about on MSM? I don't watch it much so I don't know if it is, but if it is then it is intriguing because they always seem to want to prime us to accept some "event". Of course we can't control the sun, but can we control how it affects our planet by various technologies and thus create a problem they know will become a crisis, so of course they have a solution? If it's not on msm, there is still the chance if some "event" happens they can point to the scientific reports and claim they really didn't know X was going to happen,and again we see the dialectic in play to blame it. I am always interested in sun activity, thanks.

[mattymoto]

I'm going to have to take another break. So many videos/radio shows/walls of text....my head is spinning and my eyes are burning. I should stop and process some of this before soaking any more in.


I speculate that these bases may not all be where we are to believe they are, or maybe they aren't bases at all. I recall reading an article long ago that mentioned that while building these D.U.M.B.s-- that they found ancient D.U.M.B.like facilities. Complete with advanced machinery that resembled current tech, but was a bit different in design.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by mattymoto (here)
I recall reading an article long ago that mentioned that while building these D.U.M.B.s-- that they found ancient D.U.M.B.like facilities. Complete with advanced machinery that resembled current tech, but was a bit different in design.

I heard this independently from Dan Burisch and also Jake Simpson.

[Daughter of Time]

Posted by La Tigra (here)

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)
This Fair Lady we are a part of, and living on, is going to have the final say in this matter. She's the insider who I'm paying attention to, so therefore, as the Hopi prophecy states: "This can be a good time".

Cheers All,
Fred

It is interesting that we speak of Mother Earth, Gaia, and honor her by acknowledging that She has the rights of a sentient being. We understand ourselves to be intimately linked to this giant Mother. This I agree with, but she is not alone in the Cosmos, and here we are collectively circling our Sun.

So what I ask is this, is not this Sun a sentient entity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentience) or collective with purpose of such a nature that we still do not comprehend?

Is this Sun not going through It’s own cycles’ in conjunction with other Cosmic forces that we are only on the edge of understanding?

The contemplation of the “heavens” is what has led Seekers of all known civilizations to knowledge of self by seeking harmony and relationship with the Cosmos (Known Creation).

If the Sun is going through this cycle – what are we to learn from this?

What is the Sun telling us?

Are there ET’s that influence this entity we know as our Sun?

Do we have influence over the activity of the Sun?

If we can communicate with Gaia, can we communicate with the Sun?

What assumptions are we making based on lack of data?

Just food for thought, and knowing the folks on the forum there may be some good answers out there. My questions come from an inner dialogue and sense of connection with what we are experiencing in the outer.

I do not want to distract from the "very real" repercussions and the need for preparation that this Solar Cycle indicates which is the purpose of this thread, perhaps these questions belong elsewhere.

I agree with La Tigra.

Does Gaia have the power to protect her children? Surely, I think she would if she could. But then, so many of her children have raped her. Did she let them rape her because she wanted them to exercise their free will? Or, was she unable to stop them because they were operating under the influence of ET beings with greater power and destructive intent?

Women, in general, are the microcosm of Great Gaia. So many women have been subjected to rape, subjugation, objectification, as Gaia has. Was it because so many men are evil by nature? I don't think so. I believe the men who objectified women were manipulated to act out against the women who were there to emotionally nourish them.

And since Gaia is our cosmic mother, then, is not the Sun our cosmic father? What is the consciousness of the sun? Is the sun falling apart out of its own volition, or simply because its time is now up? Or is the sun also being manipulated by greatly destructive cosmic forces? Would the sun causing great chaos on Terra be just another form of great entertainment for evil ETs? Perhaps they have tired of the regular chaos and need a new spectacle.

My apologies if this post somewhat veers off the purpose of this thread. I do realize it does not contribute anything of value. I merely wanted to express that I don't feel that Gaia can stop any cosmic catastrophes, at least, not on her own.

Maybe, now that the collective consciousness is slowly beginning to rise, if the will of every human on earth were focused on stopping further calamities, we might succeed. We are, after all, more powerful than we know.

[gripreaper]

Don't we need to pause occasionally and distill, collate and develop a synopsis?

So, I just read the Jake Simpson Camelot link. We've had these types of solar events before, or some derivative thereof, either man made of cyclical by nature. The elite, hidden in their Vatican archives, have all of the ancient texts, and currently all of the technology which Jake claims is 10,000 years ahead of the open technology we are exposed to. The ability to go off planet is in the bag, and the underground network is so sophisticated and connected to all continents, it would make any normal person's head spin.

So, the elite are prepared for every contingency, regardless of whether it is unknown to the extent of time that such events may occur. Good for them. They managed to keep it a secret from us, have managed to pilfer the wealth of this planet and pull off one of the most impressive stealth projects imaginable, and as Bob Dean claims, could possibly preserve the integrity and survival of mankind for the next golden age.

But, where does that leave us? I think a few solar rechargeable batteries and Faraday cage to put our electronics in, along with a supply of long term storage foods, possibly moving to a not so populated area, is prudent, but seems ridiculously inadequate.

[greybeard]

The video posted on the OP on this thread is saying much the same.

Oops it has been removed--- wonder why.

The thread worth reading though.

Chris

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-Ice-Creations

¤=[Post Update]=¤

All credit to Bill Ryan for starting this thread and relaying some "interesting" information
Chris

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by gripreaper (here)
Don't we need to pause occasionally and distill, collate and develop a synopsis?

So, I just read the Jake Simpson Camelot link. We've had these types of solar events before, or some derivative thereof, either man made or cyclical by nature. The elite, hidden in their Vatican archives, have all of the ancient texts, and currently all of the technology which Jake claims is 10,000 years ahead of the open technology we are exposed to. The ability to go off planet is in the bag, and the underground network is so sophisticated and connected to all continents, it would make any normal person's head spin.

So, the elite are prepared for every contingency, regardless of whether it is unknown to the extent of time that such events may occur. Good for them. They managed to keep it a secret from us, have managed to pilfer the wealth of this planet and pull of one of the most impressive stealth projects imaginable, and as Bob Dean claims, could possibly preserve the integrity and survival of mankind for the next golden age.

But, where does that leave us? I think a few solar rechargeable batteries and Faraday cage to put our electronics in, along with a supply of long term storage foods, possibly moving to a not so populated area, is prudent, but seems ridiculously inadequate.

That's pretty much the best summary I've read.

[Bill Ryan]

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We have to see it from their point of view. The following might be contentious, but you'll get my point. Something uncomfortably like this happens to me every day.

I'm in my car, which is modern and works well. In it, I am insulated from the world, as I drive through the streets and look at all the little shops and markets where the locals strive to earn a living.

I have a load of shopping with me: good healthy food, and some essential supplies from hardware stores and other high-tech outlets. I'm on my way back to my warm, secure home, where I will cook a good meal, put the coffee on, and then start communicating with the rest of the world electronically -- something that just 100 years ago would have been tantamount to magic -- and quite beyond the reach of most of those local people around me.

At the traffic lights, a poor local woman tries to sell me some plastic baubles. I'm not interested, and wave her away. At the next lights, I pass a beggar in a wheelchair. He tries to catch my eye, but I steadily look in the other direction.

Even if I care -- these unfortunate people are not my problem. I'm all right: I retire to my secure high-tech house, and embark on a series of activities which would be beyond the imagination of tens of millions of less fortunate people. This is a two-tier society -- at least.

I am highly fortunate... as are you, reading this. Just a few short years ago, there were two billion people in the world who had never made a phone call.

The analogy is that in the eyes of the global controllers, I, and you, are just like the beggars or the poor street peddlers. We are inconvenient and embarrassing, they regard us a bit like another species, and they care only for their own comfort and their own goals.

If we don't bother them, they won't actually kill us on the spot, but they would be happy to rid the planet of us... 'the useless eaters'. The way they may be planning to do this is to set up a situation where 95% of us are too stupid, unaware or unable to survive. Then they sit back and watch the neo-darwinist eugenics experiment run its course. If we're lucky, the EMP bags, solar batteries, water filters, and food reserves will qualify us to make the cut.

They do NOT care about us... just as Michael Jackson sang.

***

In the above scenario, I've been rather unfairly uncharitable to myself. But I get my own point, and so may you. I've many times traveled in developing countries, and have been a sightseer during the day while I safely retire to my comfortable hotel at night. The local people do not have that luxury. You, and I, are in the top 5% of privileged people on Earth. Maybe even the top 1%.

So how do the top 0.0001% live and think? These are the people we're discussing here.

[Jenci]

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
Has anyone noticed if this sun info is being talked about on MSM? I don't watch it much so I don't know if it is, but if it is then it is intriguing because they always seem to want to prime us to accept some "event". Of course we can't control the sun, but can we control how it affects our planet by various technologies and thus create a problem they know will become a crisis, so of course they have a solution? If it's not on msm, there is still the chance if some "event" happens they can point to the scientific reports and claim they really didn't know X was going to happen,and again we see the dialectic in play to blame it. I am always interested in sun activity, thanks.

There's been a few reports here in the last few month on msm. Here is the latest from two days ago.

Are we safe from the sun? Solar flares keep on getting stronger - with latest hotspot the size of 15 Earths strung together


By EDDIE WRENN


PUBLISHED: 17:08, 9 July 2012 | UPDATED: 07:52, 10 July 2012



The sun is a tempestuous mistress - and her outbursts are becoming more and more violent as the weeks go on.

NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory spotted the summer's first 'X' solar flare on Friday - a huge outburst from the sun right at the top of the scale.

This came on the back of 12 'M' flares in just six days, with a M6.1 flare knocking out radio signals across the planet on Thursday - hinting at the destruction the sun could reign on our technology if Earth takes a full blast across its blow.

The sunspot group behind the flares - named as AR1515 - stretches across 118,681 miles (191,000km) of the sun's surface.

This makes it's width more than 15 Earths set end to end, said NASA solar astrophysicist C. Alex Young.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...#ixzz20L8PWN00

[peace]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by mattymoto (here)
I recall reading an article long ago that mentioned that while building these D.U.M.B.s-- that they found ancient D.U.M.B.like facilities. Complete with advanced machinery that resembled current tech, but was a bit different in design.

I heard this independently from Dan Burisch and also Jake Simpson.

not intended as a slam;

Mr. Burisch. Can we rely on his testimony?

[Cidersomerset]

As David Icke would They are not fully human so the scenario you have just presented is perfectly true.

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
.... Do please keep the reference material coming.

... whether at least some of the global controllers just might be preparing to personally abandon the planet.

... we need to be preparing for extraordinarily high surface winds... something that Jake also stated, quite independently.

Here's the unanswered #1 question: what are all the underground bases for -- not only in the US, but also in Russia, China, Australia, and in many locations in Europe? And why -- to use Henry Deacon's words -- might the future of the human race depend on the secret space program?

All I have is speculation, no reference material to add (there is a LOT here in this thread)

Nothing that I see would make me believe the global controllers are leaving the planet permanently, but for the exact same reason as hiding in an underground "bunker" (city), it makes sense to have a plan to leave temporarily.

We probably all know the childhood game of musical chairs: while the music plays, all the kids skip/dance/walk around a cluster of not quite enough chairs for everyone. The music stops, and the kids dive for a chair. Anyone left standing is out. If there is truly an unknown date and time for one or more major event (that is, it is not an event such as a false-flag for which they control the timing), could the Global Ruler version of this be that these individuals need to remain somewhere that affords them a very quick escape route? Being on a lunar base affords them the luxury of not being too far away* from a chair when the music stops.

Sounds like precautions that could have been taken to retrofit the electrical grid's most sensitive components for protection have not been done. That cannot be an accident. Is sounds to me to be a deliberate act of "sabotage by depraved indifference." So, are we to be pitted one against another in a survival game, for the Global Rulers' amusement? If so, I would not be surprised if the millions and millions of surveillance cameras will be powered by underground (zero point) generators, to make sure the Global Bastards have a ringside seat. I plan to spoil their fun by dancing poorly (easy for me) and singing off-key while I help out as many people as I can.

If there really is a lunar base (sorry for my doubts, but I have nothing but hearsay to go on), it is probably to be used for
a.) a (black-ops) military command outpost
b.) fail-safe genetic repository (seeds, ancient bloodline DNA, ...)
c.) off-world safe-house for the individuals that are at the pinnacle of the power pyramid

How many do we speculate will be given sanctuary? A million? Ten million? Probably, most would logistically have to be housed in subterranean shelters. (Too many outbound flights, too many supplies to take even 100,000 to a lunar base, I'd guess.)

The high surface winds means: add sandstorm-worthy goggles to your kit, and be thinking "fortified greenhouse" not "outdoor garden" for growing food.

Why all the underground bases? Rewards to the minions that have kept the Global Rulers in power and have kept the secrets. Sounds like we'll be dealing with a few terabecquerels if all the nuclear power plants are destined to become roman candles a few weeks after a Carrington-level CME event. Rich people would prefer not to deal with that - it makes their hair feel all static-y. Estates will be ghost towns, as even those wealthy enough to have a private army wouldn't want to take a chance that a disgruntled "have-not" might get lucky with a deer rifle. So (assuming Galen Winsor is incorrect), the "haves" will be running from radiation (airborne, most water and food) and hungry humans. They don't need any esoteric reasons to crawl into a hole.

Dennis

*(We should "chip" a few of the obvious Global rulers, and track their movements. Any volunteers?)

[noxon medem]

..
-

Intuitively the rememrance of the words :

The ultimate hypnosis , a grand illusion

- comes to mind ..

Sorry, do not remember where I read
or heard that in the past ...
( probably a short and pointed novel ..).

Be well

..
-

PS.
If you realy want to worry about
something real ...
- Here a thought and a fact ....
( check it )
The average level of oxygene
in our atmosphere is about
21 percent in a mix with
mainly nitrogene and some other ..
(research)
Someone told me that if you raise
the level of oxygene in a closed
environment with only a few digits
(lets say 25 percent, but find facts)
then ...
It has the potential to self-ignite
and burns with the most intense
(ferousious) capasity (ask the scientist)

- so !
Is it realy the level of CO2
we need to "worry" about ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide
( and please look up "oxygene, jM Jarre style ..).
https://youtube.com/watch?v=3HJ2Q8GQwts
( Jean Michel Jarre Oxygene )
- short version :
https://youtube.com/watch?v=vhduM...eature=related


PPs
Co2 is also ( in addition to growing things )
used to stop fires and explosions .
( check it ..).

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=JE4HTEhx7AU

https://youtube.com/watch?v=JE4HTEhx7AU&feature=fvsr
( Amazing Fire & Gas Trick! )

Ironicaly it might be the co2 ignited excessive
plant and algea growth, producing oxygene,
combined with human projects to reduce (Co2)
certain gases in our atmosphere that could
result in dangerous oxygene levels here on earth,
- if that realy could, and would, happen to be.

(this is a philosophic and speculative scenario)
- of course , or was it off ...

These natural systems , of old, it seems they
have ways of balancing and sustaining themselves,
- and all ...


Be (a) well

..
-

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Jenci (here)
Are we safe from the sun? Solar flares keep on getting stronger - with latest hotspot the size of 15 Earths strung together

By EDDIE WRENN

PUBLISHED: 17:08, 9 July 2012 | UPDATED: 07:52, 10 July 2012

Read more: http://dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/a...#ixzz20L8PWN00

This is a very good MSM article.... do take a look.

[Bill Ryan]

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Here are a couple of great comments on the very good article http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/1941...gton-event.htm :

Actually the Carrington Event occurred in a time of low sun spot activity. This is a very real threat, while NOAA and NASA have cried wolf so many times over the hoax of global warming totally putting their credibility down the crapper... solar storms are a true danger to our way of life on planet earth. However, there are measures in place by power companies to either harden their infrastructure or simply turn it off if things got too bad with the two or three days warning that is typically associated with these storms.

Should it be a concern? Absolutely... should we put more money into making sure our power grids are more protected... absolutely.... can we do anything about it if it does take out a continent's or the world's power grids? Nope....

...And...

The loss of electricity in a couple of large metro areas that lasts more than 7 to 14 days will be a tipping point for stability of the country. The widespread deaths of those whom need electricity to live and the loss of access to basic supplies such as food and water will prompt people to take action into their own hands.

The inability to pump fuel, to pump water, to maintain food storage and to perform healthcare will overwhelm the authorities' ability to maintain order. Just-in-time food delivery to stores and warehouses along with the fact that cities import almost ALL food they consume daily from other regions is a volatile situation waiting to happen.

Be vigilant to the signals that an event like this has began, the time to secure your family and yourself will be limited before events spiral out of control. Some simple steps and some basic planning will put you in a much better position to react and survive as compared to most of your neighbors. Google is your friend, read and find the info you need to protect your family should the situation arise.

The loss of electricity for even 1 year, let alone a decade, will cause a major realignment of our country's structure and future. I hope we never see this occur.

[Belle]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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We have to see it from their point of view. The following might be contentious, but you'll get my point. Something uncomfortably like this happens to me every day.

I'm in my car, which is modern and works well. In it, I am insulated from the world, as I drive through the streets and look at all the little shops and markets where the locals strive to earn a living.

I have a load of shopping with me: good healthy food, and some essential supplies from hardware stores and other high-tech outlets. I'm on my way back to my warm, secure home, where I will cook a good meal, put the coffee on, and then start communicating with the rest of the world electronically -- something that just 100 years ago would have been tantamount to magic -- and quite beyond the reach of most of those local people around me.....

..........

Even if I care -- these unfortunate people are not my problem. I'm all right: I retire to my secure high-tech house, and embark on a series of activities which would be beyond the imagination of tens of millions of less fortunate people. This is a two-tier society -- at least.

I am highly fortunate... as are you, reading this. Just a few short years ago, there were two billion people in the world who had never made a phone call.

..........

In the above scenario, I've been rather unfairly uncharitable to myself. But I get my own point, and so may you. I've many times traveled in developing countries, and have been a sightseer during the day while I safely retire to my comfortable hotel at night. The local people do not have that luxury. You, and I, are in the top 5% of privileged people on Earth. Maybe the top 2%.

Perhaps we are not the privileged ones when it comes to being sent to the 'dark ages' because of a solar storm.

We have become spoiled. Everything is provided to us...food we do not grow ourselves, water from a tap, disengaged from nature and its workings, for the most part. We are totally dependent on energy to supply our needs...no energy (grid down)= no food, water, transportation, communication, information, etc. We depend on the 'weatherman' who depends on satellites to warn us of potential earthquakes, volcanic activity, hurricanes...having lost touch with ancient knowledge of the signs of such activity.

iirc, during the big, unexpected tsunami in India, I believe, it was the elders, holding to the old traditions who tried to warn everyone at least a day in advance to head to high ground...they could see the signs most people could not. Yet, even the others of their tribe/clan, especially the younger ones, did not believe them.

It appears to me, we are the ones who are 'screwed'...privileged in the short run, but the big losers in the long run. The top 1% have the technology to get out in some way...the very bottom can read the earth signs, many remembering the 'old ways'...and we pay the price for becoming totally dependent on the system.

Small, self supporting communities have the greatest potential of successfully facing what may be coming our way, imo.

So how do the top 0.001% live and think? These are the people we're discussing here

Their survival first and foremost. I'm assuming they've already made plans for after the event, considering the seed vault and emergency 'governmental' actions, to pick up where they left off. As to us, I'm sure they'd be happy if just enough of us survived to serve them as they require.

[gripreaper]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
So how do the top 0.0001% live and think? These are the people we're discussing here.

This has been discussed ad nauseam on other threads, most notably the Archon thread. These creatures, which I hate to call human since they do not have empathy and only see us as cattle to run their industrial machine as long as we are useful, are severed from the energetic centers know as the higher chakras. These chakras are known as the celestial, while the lower chakras are known as the terrestrial, or reptilian, or animal, or survival, or some such derivative thereof.

We all have these instincts. The difference between the empath and the psychopath, is the psychopath has NO connection to anything outside of their self serving animalistic survival needs of satiating hedonistic desires of gluttony and avarice. Anything which gets in the way of this, is to be removed and discarded as so much trash.

The challenge for most sentient empathic beings, is their impossibility of seeing any alleged human as different from themselves, and the context through which they view these psychopaths is empathic, and that, from my point of view, is a mistake.

They are reprobate, incorrigible, and cannot be rehabilitated to be empathic. We need to realize this. After 26,000 years of experience, is it safe to say that this is true?

[Cidersomerset]

Sun Erupts with Strongest Summer Solar Flare -- X 1.1 Solar Flare July 6, 2012

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Yb8I1KAt6MQ

New large Sunspot gets numbered--Sun update July 8 , 2012

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=llWQ7pUhXN4

NASA WARNS & MASSIVE SOLAR STORM HIT THE EARTH IN JANUARY 2012 By Prof. M. Reza Salami

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=IVfd4iAD6fg

Jesse Ventura talks to researcher Larry Joseph he says basically everything said so far and
says there is a solution to minimise the effects its to install ground resistors!!

Just place those resistors between the ground and the transformers and it will keep us
from shorting out the nation. Jesse asks if it is that easy why are they not doing it ?
Joseph says we have one problem its not money its not technology its politics !!!

Then we are back to speculation but worth a watch ....

I don't know if it BS or not about the resisters , thats for you tech guys !!

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Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=f5XEze0eKDE

This may have already been posted but ties in with this post...

[goinghome2012]

I was looking over James Horak material about et's or some kind of entities healing or doing something to our sun. What are they doing? why are they doing it and how long do we have until they say enough is enough and just let nature and the universe take its course.

I realize if the sun, Hellios goes super nova and or an immense solar radiation hits Earth, then there will be more suffering and chaos. Is this why they have prepared the underground bases and Fema camps?

Maybe this is what we need in order to bring humanity together in oneness and cooperation. The Matrix money slave system needs to be ended. Love ourselves, love our neighbour and therefore take care of each other and Mother Earth.

Raise our vibrations

peace, love and blessings

[Rocky_Shorz]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
-------

Here are a couple of great comments on the very good article http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/1941...gton-event.htm :

Actually the Carrington Event occurred in a time of low sun spot activity. This is a very real threat, while NOAA and NASA have cried wolf so many times over the hoax of global warming totally putting their credibility down the crapper... solar storms are a true danger to our way of life on planet earth. However, there are measures in place by power companies to either harden their infrastructure or simply turn it off if things got too bad with the two or three days warning that is typically associated with these storms.

Should it be a concern? Absolutely... should we put more money into making sure our power grids are more protected... absolutely.... can we do anything about it if it does take out a continent's or the world's power grids? Nope....

...And...

The loss of electricity in a couple of large metro areas that lasts more than 7 to 14 days will be a tipping point for stability of the country. The widespread deaths of those whom need electricity to live and the loss of access to basic supplies such as food and water will prompt people to take action into their own hands.

The inability to pump fuel, to pump water, to maintain food storage and to perform healthcare will overwhelm the authorities' ability to maintain order. Just-in-time food delivery to stores and warehouses along with the fact that cities import almost ALL food they consume daily from other regions is a volatile situation waiting to happen.

Be vigilant to the signals that an event like this has began, the time to secure your family and yourself will be limited before events spiral out of control. Some simple steps and some basic planning will put you in a much better position to react and survive as compared to most of your neighbors. Google is your friend, read and find the info you need to protect your family should the situation arise.

The loss of electricity for even 1 year, let alone a decade, will cause a major realignment of our country's structure and future. I hope we never see this occur.

they are setting up shut off switches triggered by Stereo to shut down the power grids, the 3 day storms aren't what they are worried about, it is the 9 minute flash when it first happens that carries the greatest threat...

most don't have time to even know it is coming before it reaches us...

there are no solar flare alarms...

2 additional satellites are being sent up over the next month for monitoring energy from inside and outside of our system...