From Bill Ryan -- the Ultimate Hypothesis

[Jeffrey]

http://www.solstation.com/x-objects/chimney.htm

Will edit expand link later. On my phone, limited

[papperkash]

Sometimes a wound won't heal until the source of infection is removed.

We can't heal until the powers that be are disconnected, destabilised or ejected in some way. I hope this occurs in my lifetime... and then the solution (us) can get to work and heal.... Wouldn't even take us that long when working with the right heart.

If we sour the milk a little, hopefully the leach will go away. Maybe our opportunity to sour the milk is partly now and partly right around the corner. Positive directed intent and the energetic vibrations of love could be just the medicine we need to succeed. Our ability to do this, I suspect has been dampened deliberately, but 2012 changes, may undo the deliberate dampening, with devastating consequences for the darker forces.

I welcome a golden age.

Just my wild speculation.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Posted by papperkash (here)
Sometimes a wound won't heal until the source of infection is removed.

We can't heal until the powers that be are disconnected, destabilised or ejected in some way.

Love and forgiveness for the cabal can begin (might take a while) after the cabal and their minions have lost their power to limit freedom and well being for all.

Meanwhile, love your mate, your friends, your dog, anything at all. Just love as much as you can. Love and appreciation can help change everything.

[Feren]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Chuck (here)
As I posted earlier, I suspect a big problem is a combination of cycles all happening at once to create the “perfect EM storm”.

This is what Camelot witness Henry Deacon always said to us -- right from when we first met him in 2006. "The problem is that everything is happening at once."

I agree. When I first started to investigate about all these topics (TPTB, E.Ts, the buried human history, etc) I had the feeling that it was too much information and that it would be impossible to distinguish lies from truth.
That early feeling became, I think, a more mature skepticism that allows me to avoid external disturbances to my process of awakening. Now I think 'yes, it's all happening at once, and it's a lot to deal with, but I don't have to solve it all: I have to do my little part and help others do theirs in the same way others have helped me'.
So I don't know what the is exactly the setting of the higher spheres of power, but I know who I am and whatthey I have to do. If this (elites leaving the planet) is really happening, what we must think is how would that help us in the search for a profound change in our existence.
If we do not do each one's part, the necroses that affects our world will do nothing but grow.

[Chester]

To AnthonyBacala -
Thank You for your posts. That was an amazing story (the car incident). Thanks for all the great research regarding the new Denver airport. It is sad to me that one single person would spend energy, time and money in producing those art works and placing them in that airport for many of us to have to pass by and notice. It is strange they don't seem to understand how it all really works (especially in the long run)... but I will never give up on any spirit being in that they can one day discover peace.
Once again, thanks... Chester

[goinghome2012]

santos bonacci

http://www.in5d.com/santos-bonacci-r...-dominion.html

This man has also claimed that Mother Earth will transform into a beautiful star.

i guess there are a lot of crazy people out there.

my take on this

as the sun closes a cycle the sun will expand consuming Mercury And Venus and Earth will be pushed into a new orbit around the sun.

the sun will lose 90% of it's mass as it expands and that mass(energy) from the sun will be injected into Earth's core through it's north and south poles

The Cosmic Father birthing a new reality within the womb of the Cosmic Mother.

injecting the fire within her womb

Earth's core will eventually expand and build pressure.

Once pressure is achieved the crust will be blown off the cores surface which will then reveal a Neutron star.

This Neutron Star will then begin to feed on the remaining mass that the sun has and a supernova will be the end result.

Earth is a starseed, resulting in the birth of many other stars, us. We are stars being born.

peace and love

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by goinghome2012 (here)
santos bonacci

http://www.in5d.com/santos-bonacci-r...-dominion.html

This man has also claimed that Mother Earth will transform into a beautiful star.

i guess there are a lot of crazy people out there.

my take on this

as the sun closes a cycle the sun will expand consuming Mercury And Venus and Earth will be pushed into a new orbit around the sun.

the sun will lose 90% of it's mass as it expands and that mass(energy) from the sun will be injected into Earth's core through it's north and south poles

The Cosmic Father birthing a new reality within the womb of the Cosmic Mother.

injecting the fire within her womb

Earth's core will eventually expand and build pressure.

Once pressure is achieved the crust will be blown off the cores surface which will then reveal a Neutron star.

This Neutron Star will then begin to feed on the remaining mass that the sun has and a supernova will be the end result.

Earth is a starseed, resulting in the birth of many other stars, us. We are stars being born.

peace and love

No personal disrespect intended: I know that you write with personal integrity and sincere belief. But please don't submit this gibbering nonsense (because this is what it is!) on this up-till-now highly intelligent and well-informed thread.

[goinghome2012]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

No personal disrespect intended: I know that you write with personal integrity and sincere belief. But please don't submit this gibbering nonsense (because this is what it is!) on this up-till-now highly intelligent and well-informed thread.

thank you for this forum, it gives me an option to express myself freely and openly in a non judgemental fashion

just curious why does my opinion or theory offend you so much?

why couldn't this happen?

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by goinghome2012 (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
No personal disrespect intended: I know that you write with personal integrity and sincere belief. But please don't submit this gibbering nonsense (because this is what it is!) on this up-till-now highly intelligent and well-informed thread.

why couldn't this happen?

It'll be several billion years before the sun turns into a "Red Giant" (i.e. expanding in size until it consumes the inner planets).

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...3181644AAdAjMb

Will the Sun go Nova one day?

If the sun went nova it would destroy every known planet in the Solar System.

But the sun is not massive enough to go nova. In 4-5 billion years the Hydrogen fuel in the sun's core will have all been converted to helium. The core will contract and heat up, and upon reaching 100 million degrees Celsius, Helium fusion will begin.

The outer layers of the sun will expand to about Earth's orbit, becoming a red giant, but the loss of mass early in this phase will mean that Earth will probably move to a wider orbit, and not be engulfed as Mercury would be and Venus would probably be.

Although the expansion cools the sun somewhat and makes it emit redder light, the heat emitted will be much higher than today, and despite being further out, Earth's oceans will boil away, and become like Venus now, until the atmosphere, too, is lost to space.

The red giant phase will be short lived, and eventually the outer layers will puff away due to thermal pulsations, forming a planetary nebula, leaving the core a tiny white dwarf that will slowly cool and dim.

There will be no nova here, but the outlook for Earth is not good. Fortunately, we'll all be extinct long before the red giant phase.

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by goinghome2012 (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
No personal disrespect intended: I know that you write with personal integrity and sincere belief. But please don't submit this gibbering nonsense (because this is what it is!) on this up-till-now highly intelligent and well-informed thread.

why couldn't this happen?

I am of Irish descent, so I could propose a theory where Earth turns into a giant potato. If I wanted to make sure it related tangentially to this topic, I'd include some of Bill's original post (a large CME causing a DNA shift in Gaia, turning her into a potato, for example.) It would, however, be a silly departure from a group of people discussing what Bill hypothesized in the originating post of the thread. You even said. "i guess there are a lot of crazy people out there."

Dennis

[jagman]

Hello Bill, I was wondering, If you could make a short video discussing your hypothesis? Or a audio recording? There are quite a few members
here who are visually impaired.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Posted by Paul (here)
Wow!

The sun (and the earth) are about 27,000 light years from the center of the Milky Way galaxy. So if we're seeing this now, that means it happened 27,000 years ago.

Whatever came of that near collision and destruction of that gas cloud perhaps sent off an immense wave of energy, outward from the center of our galaxy, that has been speeding it's way toward us, at near light speeds, for the last 27,000 years.

Such an energetic wave could seriously annoy our sun, making for some exciting times here on earth.

isn't the Mayan Calendar 27,000 years old?

[Jeffrey]

[Rocky_Shorz]

how many had their cell phone batteries die today in half the time it normally does?

I saw 16.5 protons/cubic cm today when my battery was draining...

does it drain electrons when protons pass through a battery?

[Jeffrey]

Cyclotron radiation is electromagnetic radiation emitted by moving charged particles deflected by a magnetic field. The Lorentz force on the particles acts perpendicular to both the magnetic field lines and the particles' motion through them, creating an acceleration of charged particles that causes them to emit radiation as a result of the acceleration they undergo as they spiral around the lines of the magnetic field.

The name of this radiation derives from the cyclotron, a type of particle accelerator used since the 1930s to create highly energetic particles for study. The cyclotron makes use of the circular orbits that charged particles exhibit in a uniform magnetic field. Furthermore, the period of the orbit is independent of the energy of the particles, allowing the cyclotron to operate at a set frequency. Cyclotron radiation is emitted by all charged particles travelling through magnetic fields, not just those in cyclotrons. Cyclotron radiation from plasma in the interstellar medium or around black holes and other astronomical phenomena is an important source of information about distant magnetic fields.

In the context of magnetic fusion energy, cyclotron radiation losses translate into a requirement for a minimum plasma energy density in relation to the magnetic field energy density (see Aneutronic fusion, Power density and energy balance).

Cyclotron radiation would likely be produced in a high altitude nuclear explosion. Gamma rays produced by the explosion would ionize atoms in the upper atmosphere and those free electrons would interact with the Earth's magnetic field to produce cyclotron radiation in the form of an electromagnetic pulse (EMP). This phenomenon is of concern to the military as the EMP may damage solid state electronic equipment.

Cyclotron radiation has a spectrum with its main spike at the same fundamental frequency as the particle's orbit, and harmonics at higher integral factors. Harmonics are the result of imperfections in the actual emission environment, which also create a broadening of the spectral lines. The most obvious source of line broadening is non-uniformities in the magnetic field; as an electron passes from one area of the field to another, its emission frequency will change with the strength of the field. Other sources of broadening include collisional broadening as the electron will invariably fail to follow a perfect orbit, distortions of the emission caused by interactions with the surrounding plasma, and relativistic effects if the charged particles are sufficiently energetic. When the electrons are moving at relativistic speeds, cyclotron radiation is known as synchrotron radiation.

The recoil experienced by a particle emitting cyclotron radiation is called radiation reaction. Radiation reaction acts as a resistance to motion in a cyclotron; and the work necessary to overcome it is the main energetic cost of accelerating a particle in a cyclotron. Cyclotrons are prime examples of systems which experience radiation reaction.

Source: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclo...section_footer

[Bill Ryan]

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Here's a really fascinating post from the Nesara News blog. (This may be the one and only time I'll ever cross-post something from there!)

It rambles around quite a bit, and there are way too many exclamation marks -- but it's all about time loops, and the author really might not be 100% wrong. It's copied verbatim and in full.

Following this, two posts below, I've copied my reply to the friend who sent me the link and asked me for my opinion. That may show why I found this interesting.

I should also add, in passing, that I do NOT attach any credibility to Andy Basiago's reports about Mars -- which is a separate topic. He was definitely involved in teleportation experiments when he was a child -- but his Mars 'recollections' came much more recently, and both Kerry and I strongly suspect that these are screen memories designed to later discredit his TRUE testimony.

Back to the topic:

http://nesaranews.blogspot.ca/2012/0...-think-of.html

By Shannon - Posted on 11 July 2012

Okay, I've finally got to say it. There is so much evidence to support this idea, that it can NO LONGER be called a theory, but really simply has to be given its place in the records as how things have actually happened.

THE WORLD (all of us humans on it) and all of the events taking place with-in space-time, from a certain point in history (most likely) 1947 have been STUCK in a repeating TIME LOOP which only a few people know anything about.

Those people, many from what has become known as the CABAL, and many from the MILITARY are fighting a very real war for control of the planet Earth by using the technology of TIME TRAVEL as spoken about by ANDY BASIAGO in his revelations about D.A.R.P.A. , Teleportation, and the secret government’s experiments using Tesla based technologies to gain quantum access by a number of means.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1438216.html

But…, where ANDY leaves off, many of us, to now include Alfred Lambremont Webre, have picked up and have put the pieces of the puzzle together in a way that CANNOT BE DENIED.

See this article on his website: Exopolitics.com for starters and pay close attention to part 10.

http://exopolitics.blogs.com/exopoli...-daikaku-.html...

Deeper and deeper the rabbit hole goes and I myself have a few things to say that even our dear Alfred has left out.

It is my opinion that in their insane bid to enslave and completely control mankind, the CABAL began sending back all relevant information pertinent to the control of the masses BACK IN TIME, from many varying points in the future, to THEMSELVES in the past.

Now you know why the Micheal J. FOX movies (The BACK TO THE FUTURE trilogy) were so very necessary to be made.

Movies of this type HAD TO BE MADE in order for the ridicule factor to even be possible by the CIA degenerates who would be called upon hide this fact from the population at large. The movie TIME COP also was part of this plausible deniability project.

The 3 episodes of Back TO THE FUTURE and the movie TIME COP were the cover stories for ridicule and plausible deniability in the event the even ONE PERSON caught wind of what was happening with in the secret governments TIME TRAVEL programs!

Isn’t it nice they threw in a laughably silly twist and made the time travel machine a cute little car (a DeLorean), and the speed at which time travel occurred (88 miles per hour), part of the whole joking “this can only be laughed at" scenario of the movie?!

Sadly, it is my conviction that the Director of BACK TO THE FUTURE was used, and perhaps even KNOWINGLY was involved in this super-secret attempt at Dis-info/Mind Control to keep the masses from even thinking about what may have been going on behind their backs!

In one of his lectures (which has been recorded and I have on video in my personal files) Phil Corso Jr., (the son of the well-known Colonel Phillip Corso , who had worked at both the WHITE HOUSE and THE PENTAGON, and who wrote the book: THE DAY AFTER ROSWELL), admitted that whether or not UFO's were real, that the UFO cover-up was NEVER the main secret being kept by the government as supposed by Dr. STEVEN GREER of the disclosure movement!

He went on to say that it was very short-sighted by those in the UFO community to be so side-tracked in their bid for DISCLOSURE, that they missed the entire forest for the trees. (my words, not his)

THE MAIN SECRET, he said, is and HAS ALWAYS BEEN “TIME TRAVEL” and the fact that TIME has been compromised!

Which explains why I am such a large supporter of Andy Basiago, and of Alfred Lambremont Webre! Please go to http://exopolitics.com and spend a few days reading there!

This was, “…the kind of information that any and all who fell upon it would be killed for...,” according to Corso Jr., and not whether or not a flying saucer had been seen, or whether or not they were even real!

The reason that UFOs and their presence was kept secret by the U.S. and other governments was that the way they traveled through space, was by default a means of achieving time travel, and that ANY INQUIRY WHATSOEVER made by a curious public as to how it was that any alien craft traveled through space would have to establish THIS FACT, (the time travel connection) and therefore the whole UFO question by DEFAULT had to be classified as well!

He also said that, UNLIKE so many other people lecturing on the Roswell incident, his information from his father suggested that the vehicle that crashed was not totally UNEXPECTED by a few secret members of the military, in the sense that they had been waiting for it!

This is AWESOME, and yet disturbing in and of itself!

The crash, according to Corso Jr, may have been unexpected, but not the appearance of the vehicle, which WAS expected.

Now WHY would the vehicle have been expected?

According to his information, some of which he shared, and some of which you have to use your head and then insert the missing pieces to conclude, was that some of the military had told his father that the EBE's, or advanced robotic entities who were flying the craft were in fact bringing back information from the future!

Just who the target recipients of this information were, he did not discuss, but it is safe to assume that it was members of the secret government or the CABAL, who were supposed to receive and then ACT upon this information.

A more chilling fact was brought out in another lecture by Corso Jr., and it was the idea that he was involved in a project with the military where he personally was actually designing and developing THE VERY CRAFT which would once again be sent back in time with all of the necessary information to 1947, and that it HAD to be sent back before a certain period he was told.

One can only guess what kind of information was retrieved from the still operating EBE-robotic entity that they recovered from that crash, but a small advanced android could certainly contain quite a bit of information about the future I would surmise.

Phil Corso Jr, however is not the only one who admitted this type of strange advance knowing about things to come. In one his most famous YOUTUBE videos, PHIL SCHNIEDER told the world that during his years of contracting to build some of the US's many deep underground bases and cities, that while drilling holes that would eventually be used to square off a deep underground base or city, the drillers struck an underground cavern filled with Grey Aliens. He said that when he was lowered down into one of the shafts/holes to see what was holding up the drilling or what they had struck, when he was confronted by a group of Aliens and subsequently shot one or two of them before coming back up to the surface.

This information is NOT nearly as important to me however as what he said next and that was that he was TOLD by the higher ups in the intelligence services when he filed a report that they were fully aware of their presence (the Grey Aliens) in that vicinity, and that they had expected him to find them!!

Think about it. He's drilling a hole for the first time, (the first time in this loop of time, I mean) and the Grey Aliens are living or squatting down there, and sends the military a report of what happens, and they say, "Oh yeah, we forgot to tell you they were there, we knew that."

HOW COULD THEY HAVE KNOWN THAT?

Enter the cascading waterfall of future information being sent back in time, and suddenly all of these things that are happening are no longer a surprise, but are expected!

The truth of the matter is this: NOT ONLY HAS TIME BEEN COMPROMISED, but it has been compromised by a CABAL that wants to take over and ENSLAVE THE WORLD AND ALL LIVING BEINGS on the world.

My opinion is that the period of time between 1947 and 2012 has become a period of time that is now looping over and over and over again, and who really knows how many loops we've gone through in this bid up to 2012 and the GOLDEN AGE?

What is certain is that those who either know about, or are controlling the loops have NO DESIRE for a Golden Age to occur, while those who may be of the so-called Positive Military are too yellow bellied, cowardly, squeamish and lily-livered to come out into the open light of day and say anything about what is really going on here!

There are some of the military as we speak who do know about this and in my belief that are trying to set matters right, but this is a battle that has now taken on EPIC proportions. I don’t know why they don’t ask for the PUBLIC’s HELP!

(THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE)

This could have been going on for hundreds and hundreds (if not thousands) of years by now, and all of the focus has been centering around this period of time from 1947 to 2012.

I believe that the positive Extraterrestrials were NEVER supposed to do what they are doing now, and only got involved because this matter had gotten so out of hand!

I believe that due to the breach of the fabric of time, and the advanced technology that was being carted backward from the future by the CABAL, those of us who were innocent by-standers in this bastardized time-line were so ill equipped to defend ourselves and so ill equipped to even mount a defense against the advanced information and advanced technology they were bringing back from their own darkly inclined scientists, that the CREATOR himself had to act!!

It is my humble opinion that as more and more successive time loops occurred, the CABAL was able to bring back more and more advanced technology from the future so that as soon as a newly dug underground base was finished, it was filled immediately with advanced technology that was brought back from a preceding loop from our own future.

In his excursions as a child participant in D.A.R.P.A’s quantum access programs, Andy Basiago has said that while he was sent many times to FORD’s THEATRE to witness the murder of Abraham Lincoln, each successive time he went back, he ran into other images or reflections of himself as well, which were also there doing the exact same mission.

It is my opinion that THIS ALONE is the reason why anyone who listens to CHANNELED INFORMATION is not getting the whole story, but a possible version of the story that was pertinent at some point on one of these many LOOPS!

My theory about this is that with each successive loop, all things that happened before, happen again, as ghostly images in the new loop…, as well as those new things that did NOT HAPPEN before, but have NOW BEEN INSERTED BY THE CABAL!

This is why so many predictions have come and gone. Why so many things have been channeled and not happened in the way it was said it would occur.

The sum total of all of these channeled messages from every loop are still there, all those from previous time loops, and well as those that are meant for us in the current loop.

Just like the strange ghostly images of himself that Andy Basiago encountered at Ford’s Theatre, we are encountering ghostly images of past information that were sent to previous loops of time where the conditions were not as dire as they are NOW!

Continuing on with where I was, this is what I believe has given the rise to the so called: BREAK AWAY CIVILIZATIONS that have been thriving underground in these bases and cities right under our feet.

It has been stated by whistle blowers of many types that there were in fact TWO distinct societies in the united states; one that was above ground and the one below ground. The one above ground was living out the mundane and yet now very altered and bastardized version of time---a version that had been literally sterilized, and neutered of many of the random events that would be beneficial to human beings as a whole and steer it in such a fashion as to augment to vision of those who would enslave the world! And as each year passed, the time-line got more and more corrupted and more and more bastardized to the point where a Fascist World Dictatorship really looked as if it could be a possibility!

Then there was the society called the breakaway society that was below ground, and which was actively receiving information and technology with each passing time loop, so that some of the whistle blowers who had been down there and seen the technology estimated that those underground were in fact 500 or 1000 years ahead of the rest of us. Why would they make that claim if these technologies had simply been "invented" in the short period we are now in? Think about it... they KNOW it could not have happened that fast! They should have said if they really believed that, that those humans underground are 30 or 40 or 50 years ahead of the rest of us, but instead they tell us those underground are 500 or 1000 years ahead which suggests that this is how much time, or how many loops it took for the technology they now had and were in fact using, to be invented, or to be developed.

It is my opinion that the reason for all these loops is that in each run up to 2012, the CABAL is failing to do what it wants to do, which is to totally enslave the world and get a one world government before 2012! It is my opinion that this is why they have HIJACKED TIME, and have gone to so much trouble to "CREATE" a designer timeline; a timeline which will give them the result they want before we hit the end of what they consider their opportune window.

The implications of this is that if you are alive and living right now, it is MOST LIKELY the case that the life you are living, and the experiences you are having in that life, have been altered from what YOU AS A SOUL INTENDED for yourself to have for this life.

Many of our lives may have so changed by what the CABAL has done, that in some cases, the life you planned or intended for yourself resembles NOTHING that it was originally supposed to be.

THIS IS THE BIG SECRET! THIS IS THE BIG LIE!

This is what the channelers of so much fame and accord, will NEVER touch upon, as it has become a TOP SECURITY ISSUE for the HIGHEST LEVELS and the highest councils in this galaxy and Universe!

Far from being a first contact scenario, which was the plan for (who knows how many) loops ago…, then to a limited help scenario, which was the adapted plan for less loops ago, then to a multifaceted bargain/negotiation with the CABAL itself, which probably started even less loops ago, to a full blown engagement with intervention and on-goings battles which is where we are today.

And those who are the so-called light workers who are trying to discern CURRENT information from the multifaceted and over-laying nature of multiple intersecting timelines is KIDDING themselves if they think they can correctly understand WHICH channeled information is for THIS TIME-LINE or a previous ONE!

Continuing on once again, it has been said that George Bush SR, once told a reporter that if the masses ever found out what had REALLY been done to them, that all of the elites would be chased down and hung from the nearest lamp pole.

THIS IS WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT!!!

Not a just a onetime, simple little world takeover bid, but something that has been ongoing over and over again, for a length of time only known to those CELESTIALS who are fighting them and the CABAL itself.

It is my opinion that this goes much deeper and farther that ANYTHING AS OF YET CONCEIVED by the common mind of humans who are not in the know. And, if one considers a completely bastardized timeline in which none of the life lessons you set up for yourself were able to manifest because the job you had set up for yourself a hundred loops ago, or the people you had set up to meet a hundred loops ago, were in fact canceled out in lieu of the new "inserted" events (events which affected us all) that a only handful of people were setting up in order to steer the timeline into an enslavement timeline. ONLY THEN do you have an idea of suffering and unparalleled agony these CABAL members are responsible for.

This is the depth of what BUSH was talking about when he made that comment, because only he knew how far down the rabbit hole really went! This is the depth of what he understood to be the crimes of the CABAL! Most of the truth seekers out there are just not thinking big enough here, you're not even in the same league as to what they (the CABAL) have done to EARTH and to mankind. Millions of very loving extra-terrestrial beings would NOT HAVE BEEN NECESSARY for the originally planned timeline if everything had gone according to plan as laid out.

Do you think the original planners and over-seers of our development and of our awakening on the EARTH were that short sighted and that stupid? To think that anything else has happened here is to say and believe that the ANGELS and enlightened beings are inept, stupid, had no foresight, and cannot fight their way out of a paper bag!!

This is NOT THE TRUTH. What is the truth is that they never envisioned a group of people so stubborn, so set upon Global enslavement that they (the CABAL) would send back in time information to themselves into the past, over and over again, trying to achieve a goal that was not working!

Now it becomes more understandable why our water has been chemically altered, our food genetically modified, and our air chem-trailed to death.

They (the CABAL) knew they had yet to attain their goal and sent back the unhappy data to the past where new and ever more diabolical measures were put into place which they hoped would remedy the situation.

LOOP AFTER LOOP most likely has come and gone, and each time a better and more well-choreographed version of their designer time-line has been played out. Every success has been extolled and copied and reproduced, and every failure noted, and then cast aside as something that did not work.

To counter act this, those who protected the EARTH were forced to intercede and intervene more and more and more.

We who are the innocents, and we who are in the middle, have taken about as much of this as we should take!

NONE of us at this time are living the lives we chose for ourselves regardless of what the channels say, because most likely those messages are being sent to previous loops and bleeding through to this one.

Not one of those who Channel from higher beings take this into account, and this is why many of these sources should NOT BE TRUSTED with complete and utter resignation!

Those sources to be trusted are those who are completely HONEST in what has actually transpired, NOT THOSE WHO STILL INSIST upon secrecy and worry about the damage that might be done if we found this stuff out. Those who are overly worried about the CABAL and their feelings and their lives at the expense of those they have manipulated, and those they have mind controlled are more interested in saving themselves from the EMBARRASSMENT that goes with admitting they were WRONG in their assessment of what the CABAL would do! (Even the higher-ups had no idea what the Dark on Earth was really capable of and got a real lesson.)

In summary, The MILITARY for its part, MUST COME CLEAN to the people and do it now so that we know what we are up against!

And if they need help, for GOD’s sake ask for it! There are millions of us who are here and willing to help!

[Jeffrey]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=iADd0oUv8HU

[Bill Ryan]

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Hi ______ , Many thanks: very interesting, actually -- not crazy at all.

A couple of weeks ago, I posted this new thread on the Project Avalon Forum:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ate-Hypothesis

Do read all of this opening post... but of direct relevance to the ideas that you forwarded, is this paragraph (#6).

6 ---
Henry Deacon [key Project Camelot insider witness] always stated that the secret space program should never be compromised, “because the future of the human race may depend on it”. Kerry and I vividly remember one conversation, in December 2008, in which Henry became really quite upset and insistent about this.

In separate conversations (over many, many hours in a number of meetings), he described and confirmed how there was a horrific tangle of inter-braided timelines, each time the efforts (by ETs, future humans and ourselves) compounding the problems and making matters more complicated.

He told us that none of these problems had yet been resolved. He said that these timeline problems also reached way back into human history and “involved our ancestors”.

He told me that there were FOUR main timelines that he was aware of (not just Dan Burisch’s two) — one of which was truly catastrophic and resulted in a version of Earth six thousand years into the future which was pretty much barren and devoid of life.

Henry had also confirmed that the Roswell visitors were time traveling future humans (see http://projectcamelot.org/big_picture.html). He was adamant about this, and stated that this came from briefings he had read and/or attended. The only difference between his account and Dan Burisch’s (Dan had said almost exactly the same thing) was that Dan said the Roswell visitors were from 24,000 years in the future, and Henry, while not being certain, had said that he had thought they were a little earlier.

Dan and Henry had never met or communicated, and when we first met Henry he had never heard of Dan at all. These corroborations were always extremely significant for Kerry and myself.

Henry, in his first conversation with us here -- http://projectcamelot.org/livermore_physicist.html -- specifically talked about time loops, and the many problems that had been created, and not yet solved, since the early 1940s. Here's the section of interest:

Henry: The problem is that all extremely high-energy events like this [referring to nuclear explosions] create rips in the fabric of spacetime. This was observed back in the early Hiroshima and Nagasaki events, and you can even see it in the old movies. Look for what looks like an expanding energy sphere, and I can send you a link to show you. The problem with creating rips in spacetime, whether they're big or little, is that things get in that you don’t want to be there.

Bill: Things get in?

Henry: Things get in. Things that we all know about that are discussed on the net a lot. Beings, and influences, and all kinds of weird stuff, and I can tell you they’ve created big problems.

Bill: What kind of problems?

Henry: [pause]

The problem of their presence and then what happens next. The other problem is that if you’re creating rips in spacetime you’re messing with time itself, whether you mean to or not. There have been attempts to fix that, and it all results in a complicated overlay of time loops. Some ETs are trying to help, and others, others are not. When predicting futures, we can only talk about probable and possible futures. This is all extremely complex and very highly classified. Basically, it’s just a huge mess. We've opened Pandora’s Box, starting with the Manhattan Project, and we haven't yet found a way to deal with the consequences.

Bill: The problem of multiple timelines sounds like the information reported by Dan Burisch... can you comment on that?

Henry: [shakes head] I don’t know about any of that.

Bill: OK. We’ll send you the links so that you can see the interviews. But what you’re saying also corroborates the information reported by "Mr X" on the Camelot website. Have you seen or read those interviews?

Henry: No, what does he say?

Bill: "Mr X" is an archivist who for a six-month period had the opportunity to work with classified documents, films, photos and artifacts back in the mid-80s when he was working on a special project with a defense contractor. He says that he read that the principal reason for the ETs' interest in us was because of nuclear testing and the general threat of nuclear weapons.

Henry: That sounds about right. Except only one or two ET groups are concerned about nuclear weapons, not all of them.

Bill: OK. What else can you tell us about the timeline problem?

Henry: Just that it’s unresolved. The risk is, you see, that each time we try to fix it, it adds to the problem. It just gets worse all the time.

Bill: Are the aliens – or some of the aliens – time travelers? Dan Burisch states this.

Henry: Yes.

Bill: Do you know about the Montauk Project?

Henry: That caused a huge problem, and generated a... created a 40-year loop.

I don’t know about Al Bielek. I believe some of his information is suspect. But something like that definitely did happen, the Philadelphia Experiment, too. John Neumann was very involved in all of that.

Bill: And Tesla, and Einstein?

Henry: Don’t know. But Neumann... [nods head]

Bill: Montauk was real?

Henry: Yes. That was a real mess. They created a time split we’re still unable to mend. Now, understand this also relates to Project Rainbow, the Stargates… they were also working on that there. But some of the Montauk reports on the net are unconvincing to me. I’ve seen some of the photos of the equipment they’re supposed to have used, and it’s junk, just a pile of junk.

Bill: I’ve always had a problem with the idea of time portals because I don’t see how or why they’d stay with the planet at a certain location as it moves through space. If a portal was created in spacetime, you’d expect it to be left behind somewhere very quickly as the earth rotates, and moves round in its orbit, and the solar system itself is orbiting the galaxy in a huge cycle. I mean, everything’s in motion, all the time, and this is well known. Can you explain this?

Henry: No, I can’t... but I know what you mean, and the portals do stay in specific locations, kind of anchored to this planet. That does happen that way. Why they don’t get left behind or just kind of float off somewhere, I have no idea. Maybe they’re gravitationally anchored in some way. Your guess is as good as mine.

One of the portals connects to Mars, and it’s a stable connection, no matter where Earth and Mars are in their orbits. We have a base there established in the early sixties. Actually, we have a number of bases.

Bill: So we’ve explored Mars already.

Henry: Sure, a long time ago. Have you seen Alternative Three?

Bill: Yes.

Henry: That had some truth to it. The Mars landing video was all a spoof, and other parts of it were as well, but there’s truth there.

[Jeffrey]

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[K626]

Consciousness and time are in some ways the same thing (time cannot exist without consciousness and without time consciouness becomes too concrete to decipher). Both are also very, very low levels of a kind of 'radiation' which leaves a signature (manifest active). When this signature is disturbed the 'future' become mis-aligned with regard to our intent and our projection of ourselves onto the future.

love

K